[Technical] Engine Oil - All related matters in EO

[Hydher]

dun just top up. change.

[photoemission]

Hi guys,

 

This is one observation i have with my phantom TA200 regarding engine oil.

 

I have been using the semi EO at ah khoon $13 + $2 top up with dunno what and I have been getting this loud pop sound from the exhaust(i call it farting) once in a month or so, so I don't really care about it. (plus ah khoon says it's normal)

 

A few months back, i lazy to go down to ah khoon just to change EO so I changed it at a bike shop near at Pasir Panjang, next to Fong Seng and cheeze prata. That shop ran out of semi EO, so got to pay $30 for the Mobil fully syn one. But hey, ever since then, NO MORE FARTING!!!

 

I don't believe, so recently changed back to the Semi+top-up-dunno-what at Ah Khoon. Yep, farting is back.

 

Just wondering if you guys have the same experience?

[jtzx]

it's called backfiring ;-) common issue for ta200..

 

 

lol $30 for EO is far too expensive for i know

[Hydher]

Hi guys,

 

This is one observation i have with my phantom TA200 regarding engine oil.

 

I have been using the semi EO at ah khoon $13 + $2 top up with dunno what and I have been getting this loud pop sound from the exhaust(i call it farting) once in a month or so, so I don't really care about it. (plus ah khoon says it's normal)

 

A few months back, i lazy to go down to ah khoon just to change EO so I changed it at a bike shop near at Pasir Panjang, next to Fong Seng and cheeze prata. That shop ran out of semi EO, so got to pay $30 for the Mobil fully syn one. But hey, ever since then, NO MORE FARTING!!!

 

I don't believe, so recently changed back to the Semi+top-up-dunno-what at Ah Khoon. Yep, farting is back.

 

Just wondering if you guys have the same experience?

 

i see two possibilities.

 

1. needs different tuning for that semi eo

2. the top up.

[jianping]

Lets get things organised. Please add on to the list. Try to keep it alphabetically arranged thank you!

 

Strictly for TA200 riders reviews only

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Bel-Ray-96262-Thumper-20W50-4-Stroke-Racing-Motor-Oil-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Belray thumper 20w50(Unique motorsports/hkl) $18

Hydher - After 1000k,gear shifting was slick 4.5/5

 

 

 

http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/castrol_malaysia/STAGING/local_assets/images/products/mco_power14t_malaysia_375x253.jpg

Castrol Power 1 15w40 (Thailand) 100 baht / S$4.26

VidaK - Gear changing is a little stiff, engine sounds rough and top speed is much lower than before 2/5

jianping - worst EO on my bike, engine feels less powerful,noisy and rough.. need to throttle alot more to attain 90km/hr on expressway.. avoid this.. i bought at $12.. 1/5

 

 

 

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_IHSFI5DXqm4/ShF8-VdH1fI/AAAAAAAADmQ/rMjBbBzoXdw/s512/DSC00359.JPG

Chessa Chex 9000 10w50 (planet) $16

VidaK - No gear changing problems, or other problems. good value for your money 4.5/5

jtzx- Great fully syn Eo. which is value for money which can last at least 2.5k millege 5/5

 

 

 

FUCHS [Which series?]15w50 (planet) $10

Hydher - I hated it after 1k, gear changing was rough as hell and stuck at neutrals 2/5

 

 

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Maxima-32901-Maxum4-Extra-100-Synthetic-4-Stroke-Motor-Oil-15W50-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Maxima 15w50 extra (planet) $21

VidaK - no problems with the bike, but compared to the chex, this oil lost outright since its much more expensive... 3/5

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Maxima-35901B-Maxum4-Synthetic-Blend-4-Stroke-Motor-Oil-20W50-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Maxima 20w50 synblend (planet) $15

Hydher - Was used for long distance travelling. Was soso. 4/5

nuttybing - can feel the roughness in changing gears after around 1300km, so so only 3/5

 

 

 

http://www.motul.com.sg/product_line_up/4stroke/images/product_images/300V_4T_FACTORYLINE_15W50.jpg

Motul 300v 15w50 (planet) $28

VidaK - The smoothest is unreal. In fact top speed increased. 4.5/5

 

http://www.motul.com.sg/product_line_up/4stroke/images/product_images/5100_4T_15W50_1L_A.jpg

Motul 5100 15w50 (semi)

nuttybing - Gear changing is really smooth, can feel the power along with the throttle, around 2000km can feel it deteriorating 4/5

 

 

 

NASA [Which series?]10w40 (planet) $10

Hydher - Not bad in all rounders even price. 4/5.

jtzx - pick up quite bad but over all good.. 3.5/5

[VidaK]

Lets get things organised. Please add on to the list. Try to keep it alphabetically arranged thank you!

 

Strictly for TA200 riders reviews only

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Bel-Ray-96262-Thumper-20W50-4-Stroke-Racing-Motor-Oil-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Belray thumper 20w50(Unique motorsports/hkl) $18

Hydher - After 1000k,gear shifting was slick 4.5/5

 

 

 

http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/castrol_malaysia/STAGING/local_assets/images/products/mco_power14t_malaysia_375x253.jpg

Castrol Power 1 15w40 (Thailand) 100 baht / S$4.26

VidaK - Gear changing is a little stiff, engine sounds rough and top speed is much lower than before 2/5

jianping - worst EO on my bike, engine feels less powerful,noisy and rough.. need to throttle alot more to attain 90km/hr on expressway.. avoid this.. i bought at $12.. 1/5

 

 

 

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_IHSFI5DXqm4/ShF8-VdH1fI/AAAAAAAADmQ/rMjBbBzoXdw/s512/DSC00359.JPG

Chessa Chex 9000 10w50 (planet) $16

VidaK - No gear changing problems, or other problems. Although there is more vibration then quality oils, it is good value for your money 4/5

jtzx- Great fully syn Eo. which is value for money which can last at least 2.5k millege 5/5

 

 

 

FUCHS [Which series?]15w50 (planet) $10

Hydher - I hated it after 1k, gear changing was rough as hell and stuck at neutrals 2/5

 

 

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Maxima-32901-Maxum4-Extra-100-Synthetic-4-Stroke-Motor-Oil-15W50-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Maxima 15w50 extra (planet) $21

VidaK - no problems with the bike, but compared to the chex, this oil lost outright since its much more expensive... 3/5

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Maxima-35901B-Maxum4-Synthetic-Blend-4-Stroke-Motor-Oil-20W50-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Maxima 20w50 synblend (planet) $15

Hydher - Was used for long distance travelling. Was soso. 4/5

nuttybing - can feel the roughness in changing gears after around 1300km, so so only 3/5

 

http://www.cbxmanmotorcycles.com/Aftermarket-Motorcycle-Products/Chemicals-Lubricants/4-Stroke-Motor-Oil/Maxima-36901-Maxum4-Ultra-100-Synthetic-High-RPM-Formula-4-Stroke-Racing-Motor-Oil-5W50-1-Liter-Bottle.jpg

Maxima 5w50 ultra (planet) $23

VidaK - No doubt it is a good oil, but it is a little expensive 3.5/5

 

 

 

http://www.motul.com.sg/product_line_up/4stroke/images/product_images/300V_4T_FACTORYLINE_15W50.jpg

Motul 300v 15w50 (planet) $28

VidaK - The smoothest is unreal. In fact top speed increased. 4.5/5

 

http://www.motul.com.sg/product_line_up/4stroke/images/product_images/5100_4T_15W50_1L_A.jpg

Motul 5100 15w50 (semi)

nuttybing - Gear changing is really smooth, can feel the power along with the throttle, around 2000km can feel it deteriorating 4/5

 

 

 

NASA [Which series?]10w40 (planet) $10

Hydher - Not bad in all rounders even price. 4/5.

jtzx - pick up quite bad but over all good.. 3.5/5

 

 

 

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd246/tosco1122/HR50white.jpg

Verity 15w50 fully synthetic (planet) $26

VidaK - It is very good, but not the best. Quite expensive also... 3.5/5

[ahcaibiker]

Hi PKs i find the info on the phantom knights great and beneficial. but i will really appreciate that it is more TA150 friendly. TA150 or TA200, both are also phantom. so yeah, if possible do share more abt abt TA150 instead of mostly just matters regarding only TA200. No offence meant. Im sure there are still alot of TA150 around? mod pls help make the PK forum abit more TA150 friendlier. Thanks.

[Hydher]

wow vidak. you change eo alot alot alot. Play with high end also @_@

 

Hi PKs i find the info on the phantom knights great and beneficial. but i will really appreciate that it is more TA150 friendly. TA150 or TA200, both are also phantom. so yeah, if possible do share more abt abt TA150 instead of mostly just matters regarding only TA200. No offence meant. Im sure there are still alot of TA150 around? mod pls help make the PK forum abit more TA150 friendlier. Thanks.

 

Sadly, members of the ok are MOSTLY ta200 owners. You can voice out too =)

F.y.i ta200 and ta150 are to a certain extent, rather similar

[VidaK]

Hi PKs i find the info on the phantom knights great and beneficial. but i will really appreciate that it is more TA150 friendly. TA150 or TA200, both are also phantom. so yeah, if possible do share more abt abt TA150 instead of mostly just matters regarding only TA200. No offence meant. Im sure there are still alot of TA150 around? mod pls help make the PK forum abit more TA150 friendlier. Thanks.

 

hey... feel free to add info on 2t oils as well! well this thread is still very young compared to most other threads in pk forums

 

wow vidak. you change eo alot alot alot. Play with high end also @_@

 

 

 

Sadly, members of the ok are MOSTLY ta200 owners. You can voice out too =)

F.y.i ta200 and ta150 are to a certain extent, rather similar

 

I ride my beloved bike all day long (really!)

[il4]

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Edited June 22, 2015 by il4

[Hydher]

30 weight oil usually not formulated for motorcycles.

 

the 300v series im sure i saw w20 and w30 ?is it for water cooled? air cooled i think should be w40-w50?

[armani123sg]

anyone tried the $6 EO from planet?

[Hydher]

anyone tried the $6 EO from planet?

 

the united smth in a can right? made in singapore.

Why dun u try then let us know? hehe. mayb its mineral.

[armani123sg]

the united smth in a can right? made in singapore.

Why dun u try then let us know? hehe. mayb its mineral.

 

haha, ya, went there yesterday. got 2 types of $6 ones. one is the black can with purple word 'f4' i think. another is a greenish blue bottle branded 'red'. haha. maybe i might try next eo change.

[Guyvr111]

guys . for more den 10 yrs old rxz .. use wat EO ? semi ? or fully synthetic?

[VidaK]

guys . for more den 10 yrs old rxz .. use wat EO ? semi ? or fully synthetic?

 

rxz...? try mobil fully synthetic engine oil for 2t bikes...

[Hydher]

with labour thats e ccheapest in sg. if diy, got lab =)

[Guyvr111]

rxz...? try mobil fully synthetic engine oil for 2t bikes...

 

THKS~!!!! get from esso or bike shops ar ?

[VidaK]

THKS~!!!! get from esso or bike shops ar ?

 

hmmm... the product would be the same... from the cheapest to the most ex should be: malaysia esso > bikeshop / bike accessories shop > singapore esso

[il4]

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Edited June 22, 2015 by il4

[VidaK]

as long as my bike doesn't have problems idling when cold, I am almost always using w50 or above oils

[Hydher]

thanks for the enlightenment. I just bough a bottle of total eo from carrefour. hehe. will sure keep things updated!

[lycan]

I wonder will the engine suffer if you use a lousy EO and ignored the vibration to ride at 110km?

[Finrod]

I wonder will the engine suffer if you use a lousy EO and ignored the vibration to ride at 110km?

Mebbe only all the screws fall off?????

[Finrod]

Anyone used Amsoil b4?