Engine Coolant Review

[skahxiong]

Hi guys out there , anybody has tired both maxima aide coolant or engine ice coolant ? hope to get some reviews from the bros here thanks

[IvikaRazI]

You can be the 1st to try. I won't dare to try. Both from different company and thus the chemical contents will be different. Who knows what would happen when the chemicals react hahahha. Its not similar like mixing petrol of different company.

 

Do tell if you decide to go ahead with this project.

[katana777]

You can be the 1st to try. I won't dare to try. Both from different company and thus the chemical contents will be different. Who knows what would happen when the chemicals react hahahha. Its not similar like mixing petrol of different company.

 

Do tell if you decide to go ahead with this project.

think he only ask anyone who tired both coolant, not mixed both coolant if u read carefully. cheers

btw using engine ice on my bike, thumbs up for it

[mild_slevin]

No worries, you always can ask the mech to flush the reservoir before topping up with fresh ones. I'm using maxima for now, if the weather is extremely cool I can feel great power. Engine ICE seems power, but has yet try it out. Any comments on it?

[IvikaRazI]

think he only ask anyone who tired both coolant, not mixed both coolant if u read carefully. cheers

btw using engine ice on my bike, thumbs up for it

 

Hahha my mistake. Not fully awaken.

 

Anyway been using Coolaide since day one of my 2 yr old bike. I still think there is no need to have a anti-freeze solution for our weather. Paying something extra for something that is not gonna be of any use. My 2 cents.

 

In the end, its still your decision and pocket.

 

By the way found this on the net by someone in an internet forum (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=422189&page=2)

 

"But, compared to an ethylene glycol mixture (the green stuff), yes, Engine Ice does not transfer heat as well. This translates to lower radiator temperatures but higher cylinder head temperatures.

 

.......... By the way, the article in Dirt Rider magazine that tested the various coolants was in the July 2006 issue. I could not find an online link to it, though. The test consisted of temperature readings at both the radiator and the cylinder head using the same motorcycle."

 

Dunno how true.

Edited November 8, 2009 by IvikaRazI

[skahxiong]

You can be the 1st to try. I won't dare to try. Both from different company and thus the chemical contents will be different. Who knows what would happen when the chemicals react hahahha. Its not similar like mixing petrol of different company.

 

Do tell if you decide to go ahead with this project.

 

haha its ok ! maybe my thread was misleading !

[skahxiong]

so how much cheaper is coolaide compare to engine ice ? Btw nice link you have there IvikaRazi !

[Sâundless]

I have use both before for my X9. Engine ice tend to be slightly better by 1/2 bar. But maxima is cheaper and have same result.

 

Currently still using maxima coolants.

[mild_slevin]

Hahha my mistake. Not fully awaken.

 

Anyway been using Coolaide since day one of my 2 yr old bike. I still think there is no need to have a anti-freeze solution for our weather. Paying something extra for something that is not gonna be of any use. My 2 cents.

 

"But, compared to an ethylene glycol mixture (the green stuff), yes, Engine Ice does not transfer heat as well. This translates to lower radiator temperatures but higher cylinder head temperatures.

 

 

Yup we don't need anti freeze in s'pore...

Does it mean Engine Ice could not transfer heat away from the engine effectively?

 

 

I have use both before for my X9. Engine ice tend to be slightly better by 1/2 bar. But maxima is cheaper and have same result.

 

Currently still using maxima coolants.

 

Mind asking, what you mean by its "better by 1/2 bar"

[MC28]

Maybe his temperature gauge is the analog type thus the bar thingy..

 

I'm using MOTUL Inugel Expert Ultra from the 1st time i flush my coolant till now..

[Sâundless]

Yup we don't need anti freeze in s'pore...

Does it mean Engine Ice could not transfer heat away from the engine effectively?

 

 

 

 

Mind asking, what you mean by its "better by 1/2 bar"

 

Maybe his temperature gauge is the analog type thus the bar thingy..

 

I'm using MOTUL Inugel Expert Ultra from the 1st time i flush my coolant till now..

 

Yes mine is those analog type.

[Chaoz]

Maybe his temperature gauge is the analog type thus the bar thingy..

 

I'm using MOTUL Inugel Expert Ultra from the 1st time i flush my coolant till now..

 

which was how long ago?

[MC28]

which was how long ago?

 

1st flush was like Mar 08..

 

Early June 09 was my 2nd flush...

[skahxiong]

haha , need some advice , how much bottles of cool aide for a suzuki k7 g6 ?

[IvikaRazI]

Yup we don't need anti freeze in s'pore...

Does it mean Engine Ice could not transfer heat away from the engine effectively?

 

From what the guy report. It can't transfer heat away from the engine that well. If only can put a temperature probe in every cylinder hahha Then will we only know.

 

 

Mind asking, what you mean by its "better by 1/2 bar"

 

Ya lor. Use proper temperature terms hhehehe. I got temperature stix that do tell the radiator's temperature and it is almost the same reading as on my bike. Bought because nothing better to do hahahah.

[Sâundless]

From what the guy report. It can't transfer heat away from the engine that well. If only can put a temperature probe in every cylinder hahha Then will we only know.

 

 

 

 

Ya lor. Use proper temperature terms hhehehe. I got temperature stix that do tell the radiator's temperature and it is almost the same reading as on my bike. Bought because nothing better to do hahahah.

 

3 degree diff....

From 85 to 82

[skahxiong]

anybody can advice me how many bottles do i need ?

[darren_soh86]

haha.. seriously i realli cannot see the point here.. imho.. coolant simply transfer the heat away from the engine.. i know the better ones do not contain anti freeze for our climate.. but is it worth using them compared to the green ones?

 

the price premium is realli too much given the performance difference.. if there's any in the 1st place.. the better coolant should be the one which u feel ur radiator is as hot as possible when riding.. not the other way round.. when the radiator and coolant is hot, it means heat is extracted from the engine.

[Snoek]

haha.. seriously i realli cannot see the point here.. imho.. coolant simply transfer the heat away from the engine.. i know the better ones do not contain anti freeze for our climate.. but is it worth using them compared to the green ones?

 

the price premium is realli too much given the performance difference.. if there's any in the 1st place.. the better coolant should be the one which u feel ur radiator is as hot as possible when riding.. not the other way round.. when the radiator and coolant is hot, it means heat is extracted from the engine.

 

thx for the review

[Sâundless]

haha.. seriously i realli cannot see the point here.. imho.. coolant simply transfer the heat away from the engine.. i know the better ones do not contain anti freeze for our climate.. but is it worth using them compared to the green ones?

 

the price premium is realli too much given the performance difference.. if there's any in the 1st place.. the better coolant should be the one which u feel ur radiator is as hot as possible when riding.. not the other way round.. when the radiator and coolant is hot, it means heat is extracted from the engine.

 

The Diff between premium coolant and green coolant is the speed of heat exchange..... How fast it cool down, how fast it extract the heat away from the engine and transfer to radiator.

[Sean]

i use Redline Waterwetter b4, not bad for the price. temp drop by ard 4degree.

[IvikaRazI]

To me its not important of how much temp drop a coolant can achieve. BUT the fact that it is able to transfer heat from the engine to the radiator as efficient as possible. To really have a fair comparison, temperature needs to be taken on the engine itself and not the radiator's temperature probe.

 

A good coolant will keep within the safe operating range (not underheat or overheat), while maintaining a good engine temperature. If logic is correct, a hotter engine will gives out more performance. Will the heat kill the engine? Only time will tell.

[Sean]

On a race bike, the only thing that you can do is to use a better coolant so that it can transfer the heat away from the engine more efficiently from the constant high revving.

 

Radiator is there to take away the heat from the engine and the temp of the radiator is directly related to how hot the engine is currently running. It is made to function this way and thay is y the temp probe is on the radiator not the engine unless of coz if the engine is air cool it will be the other way ard. Hot engine gives out better performance but when it start over heating with temp shooting pass 110-120 degree, it is not a gd sign.

[IvikaRazI]

On a race bike, the only thing that you can do is to use a better coolant so that it can transfer the heat away from the engine more efficiently from the constant high revving.

 

Radiator is there to take away the heat from the engine and the temp of the radiator is directly related to how hot the engine is currently running. It is made to function this way and thay is y the temp probe is on the radiator not the engine unless of coz if the engine is air cool it will be the other way ard. Hot engine gives out better performance but when it start over heating with temp shooting pass 110-120 degree, it is not a gd sign.

 

It ain't the true temperature of the engine. Do you really think the engine temperature is only 80-100 degree while in operation? Isn't it more than that? Could it be 1 probe (radiator) vs 2-4 probes (for each cylinder)? Cost involved? The need of special materials due to high heat?

Edited November 17, 2009 by IvikaRazI

[Sean]

hi, wad i mean was both engine and coolant temp is relative to each other, not necessary to have the reading. When i say 110-120 degree, it was referring to the radiator not the engine. If the engine grow hotter naturally the coolant will do the same. That is y fans are install to blow at the radiator but not the engine..