Yamaha TDM 900

[Virus]

So huge.....! . Write in a CD for me?

 

Sunday petrol & wash bike? On but got RT from 8am to 10am leh.

[ansmania]

so who is gonna be @ AJ's? I havE already removed my hose for the airbox mod..

 

bUt I dunno.. might juz pop down @ 12 to remove the solinoid or something then head off to M_Technik to get my fork seals done..

[AJ..]

so who is gonna be @ AJ's? I havE already removed my hose for the airbox mod..

 

bUt I dunno.. might juz pop down @ 12 to remove the solinoid or something then head off to M_Technik to get my fork seals done..

 

or meet you at 12 at M-tecknik...then from there go my house..

[AJ..]

Take How...i was looking and reading the thread carefully and was trying to figure out what would still be the problem...

 

but let me show you again...

 

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/ET_TDM/PICT0016.jpg

see the two heads where we removed the tubes...this is where the coolant goes in...but if you notice mine just now...the 2 heads was black covered with residue...so i believed it is choked...

 

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/ET_TDM/PICT0020.jpg

we didnt managed to open up this bugger because of the 2 goddamn screws...

 

My theory,could be wrong,could be right...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/ET_TDM/PICT0021.jpg

the pin that we managed to lub,so that its smoothly moving in and out and clean,however,the coolant that enters the 2 heads mite not be able to reach this pin...causing it to be staying steel instead of going out when the coolant comes in and warm up the actuator...so this process didnt activate the pin causing the not stable idling...

 

 

well,this is what the carpedian conclusion..

and the offending part is this stainless steel pin. It was pretty solid, but lightly tapping it back and forth freed it up until I could push it out of the body (you need to take it out from the inside). This was then cleaned, and I used copperslip grease on the pin (I wondered whether it was genuinly road grome, or some electrolytic corrosion between the aluminium and the stainless that caused the partial seizure..??)

 

what my conclusion is like what i said...the coolant needs to enter the Fast Idle plunger,then as the bike warms,the coolant temp gets hotter,and it activate the pin to engage out and hits the idling on the throttle body that the pin supposed to be resting...

I guess i need to really open up the Fast Idle Plunger to try and sort out this...

 

what do you think?

[AJ..]

read his story...and what my conclusion would be slightly makes sense.

 

 

For a little while the fast idle hadn't been working properly, so at long last I decided to do something about it. I hope the following will help others. Incidentally the fast idle unit can't be bought as a seperate unit, you can only buy it as part of the complete throttle body assembly, list price about £1300...yes thirteen hundred!!!

 

 

SYMPTOMS

Originally the symptom was one of no high idle on start up on a cold engine, making it difficult to start and keep running. After a service, and I can't remember the exact circumstances here...it was months ago...the symptoms chaged to having a fast idle at start up, but then remaining fast.

 

 

WHAT THE PROBLEM IS

The fast idle plunger is a little unit screwed onto the front of the throttle body. It has two pipes off the radiator which heat a wax stat. As the wax stat heats it expands, pushing a plunger side ways. This pushes against a slider arrangement (which is sprung loaded) and adjusts the throttle setting (independently to the twist throttle).

All of this is exposed to the elements and the water and spray tends to work into the plunger and seize it up. Hence it can get stuck in one position.

 

 

WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT

the repair is simple in theory. The fast idle assembly is held onto the throttle body by two screws. Remove these and remove the two radiator hoses and take it off the bike. The whole thing comes apart with two screws. Free it up, lubricate and replace on the bike. Easy eh!?

[kmax]

Naked TDMs

 

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/limpflink/friends/TDM900-handson/DSC01017.jpg

 

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/limpflink/friends/TDM900-handson/DSC01018.jpg

 

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/limpflink/friends/TDM900-handson/DSC01019.jpg

 

 

TakeHow's coolent's on the floor

 

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/limpflink/friends/TDM900-handson/DSC01031.jpg

 

 

AJ's XR shotgun.. (backfire)

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/limpflink/friends/TDM900-handson/DSC01021.jpg

[AJ..]

here's more to it on the removal of the Fast Idle Plunger...takehow's problem solve...however mine,slightly better but needs to really open up the whole thing...i have to open up again...

 

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/khamizAJ/moddingtheTDMairbox051.jpg

 

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/khamizAJ/moddingtheTDMairbox049.jpg

its a good thing Takehow go and buy this little tool...if not,we have to remove the coolant hose and drain the coolant...like the carpedian did...too hasle...

 

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/khamizAJ/moddingtheTDMairbox074.jpg

 

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/khamizAJ/moddingtheTDMairbox079.jpg

the above is Takehow fast idle that we have just clean and lube the pin...and below is mine right after i removed it...see how dirty and stuck it is...the pin is jammed..we didnt manage to dismantle both of this unit because of the 2jammed screws that we failed to open...

 

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/khamizAJ/moddingtheTDMairbox050.jpg

 

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/khamizAJ/moddingtheTDMairbox077.jpg

Our GARAGE!!

 

and here's some photos of yesterday breakfast and bikewash..but no photo taken on breakfast due to busy chatting and crapping..great bunch of company....

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/khamizAJ/moddingtheTDMairbox058.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/khamizAJ/moddingtheTDMairbox061.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/khamizAJ/moddingtheTDMairbox067.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/khamizAJ/moddingtheTDMairbox059.jpg

The non TDM is Takehow's riding gang...besides Fredrick of cos...and i sense future TDM riders in two of them..

[Virus]

Yo Aj. When we gonna do the net for the side faring? The JB workshop that u used to go have any accessories shop nearby?

[AJ..]

that one you have to PM Demon and treat him lunch...and who knows...try sweet talk to him...you go get the mesh at any hardware shop,then he mite invite all of us for a mass mesh intallation...

[Virus]

that one you have to PM Demon and treat him lunch...and who knows...try sweet talk to him...you go get the mesh at any hardware shop,then he mite invite all of us for a mass mesh intallation...

 

Lunch no problem. Sweet talk...... I'm not that good leh. Normal talk ok lah. Need to look for plastic or metal 1?

[ansmania]

Wow... You guys are having a ball of a time..

 

I would like to take this time to thank all who helped me last Sat.. My fork is now good thanks to you guys.. =0)

 

Am now still waiting for my freaking rack, K&N and ciggie lighter.. Also, I might be heading out this Sat to look out for my front tire cos it's almost time..

 

Hey AJ, confirmed the dates to our trip yet?

[AJ..]

haven't..i let TakeHow do the honour...

[take how]

Take How...i was looking and reading the thread carefully and was trying to figure out what would still be the problem...

 

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/ET_TDM/PICT0020.jpg

we didnt managed to open up this bugger because of the 2 goddamn screws...

 

what do you think?

 

So, how izit now, XR carb done, managed to opened de bugger..? do let me noe if u wanto open again tis 2 days..

 

Tks for showing n help to open de bugger.. mine seems alrite now.. From last Sat, nvr encounter anymore clutch-in and die-off.. to for us..

 

Naked TDMs

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/limpflink/friends/TDM900-handson/DSC01018.jpg

 

AJ's XR shotgun.. (backfire)

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/limpflink/friends/TDM900-handson/DSC01021.jpg

 

Thanks for coming by n help bro! W/o ur hand n light, i wld need to stay beyond 10pm man! :thumb:

 

btw, u seen AJ in werk again past few days..? i havent got chance to call n chk with him..

[take how]

Lunch no problem. Sweet talk...... I'm not that good leh. Normal talk ok lah. Need to look for plastic or metal 1?

 

Thot Demon said is 'Alu' wan.. so, anyone pick a date to do it..?

 

Wow... You guys are having a ball of a time..

 

I would like to take this time to thank all who helped me last Sat.. My fork is now good thanks to you guys.. =0)

 

Am now still waiting for my freaking rack, K&N and ciggie lighter.. Also, I might be heading out this Sat to look out for my front tire cos it's almost time..

 

Hey AJ, confirmed the dates to our trip yet?

 

Ans, u stil remember we sharing de cigger lighter, ryte..? do let me know arrived, k?

 

haven't..i let TakeHow do the honour...

 

Wah, in chinese sometime we says.. wah, "you put me on de table?" huh..

 

Ride? can, i ride in CTE every Mon-Fri.. anyone..?

[AJ..]

well TakeHow...my XR is done...good thing i didnt throw the spring and the bushing...that belongs in the carb...but somehow the rubber O'ring is torned...got it replaced...i think i got distracted by Ang talking to me when i was dismantling the carb...sigh...fixed the carb yesterday...bike back to normal...

 

havent got time to do the Fast Idle...yesterday to my very shockingly self,after did the XR...i thought of lubricate my chain on the TDM and maybe svc the caliper...i found out that my rear wheel nut that size 32' is not tight...i am able to turn it with my fingers...and the adjustment nuts and position is not balance of left and right...i was thinking what could happen if the Nut came off last Sunday...remember when we all blast on the way back?i was doing like 195km/hr!!!!

 

Thank god...so i was not able to get the nut tightened and the caliper done because i didnt bring down the right tool..

30mins ago...i just did the caliper servicing...one of the 2 size 12' screws jammed...but able to come out..that was also because i was using the T-wrench...one of the screw is badly corroded...tried to scrape it out but only able to scrape some...grease the inside of the rubber tube on both and grease the screws...and lubricate the caliper piston...everythg seems ok..now rear wheel not jammed..but i guess i need to buy one of the caliper screw...its a special screw...so i somehow need to buy it at Auto M...at the same time,i also brought down the size 32' and tightened the wheel axle nut and adjust its position..

So guys,check you rear wheel axle nut before you ride today...

 

cheers..wow..like doing composition...

[nukye]

well TakeHow...my XR is done...good thing i didnt throw the spring and the bushing...that belongs in the carb...but somehow the rubber O'ring is torned...got it replaced...i think i got distracted by Ang talking to me when i was dismantling the carb...sigh...fixed the carb yesterday...bike back to normal...

 

havent got time to do the Fast Idle...yesterday to my very shockingly self,after did the XR...i thought of lubricate my chain on the TDM and maybe svc the caliper...i found out that my rear wheel nut that size 32' is not tight...i am able to turn it with my fingers...and the adjustment nuts and position is not balance of left and right...i was thinking what could happen if the Nut came off last Sunday...remember when we all blast on the way back?i was doing like 195km/hr!!!!

 

Thank god...so i was not able to get the nut tightened and the caliper done because i didnt bring down the right tool..

30mins ago...i just did the caliper servicing...one of the 2 size 12' screws jammed...but able to come out..that was also because i was using the T-wrench...one of the screw is badly corroded...tried to scrape it out but only able to scrape some...grease the inside of the rubber tube on both and grease the screws...and lubricate the caliper piston...everythg seems ok..now rear wheel not jammed..but i guess i need to buy one of the caliper screw...its a special screw...so i somehow need to buy it at Auto M...at the same time,i also brought down the size 32' and tightened the wheel axle nut and adjust its position..

So guys,check you rear wheel axle nut before you ride today...

 

cheers..wow..like doing composition...

Wat grease or lubrican tat u used for ur svc of the brake caliper?

[AJ..]

normal grease...like KY...

[pcr]

Hi,

I'm a newbie here and this is my virgin post

got my class 2 this year and thinking of upgrading my SF. read about the TDM here and interested to know if there is a 2008 model. what is the current model, and what are the pros & cons of this bike?

 

thanks for your time.

[take how]

well TakeHow...my XR is done...good thing i didnt throw the spring and the bushing...that belongs in the carb...but somehow the rubber O'ring is torned...got it replaced...i think i got distracted by Ang talking to me when i was dismantling the carb...sigh...fixed the carb yesterday...bike back to normal...

 

havent got time to do the Fast Idle...yesterday to my very shockingly self,after did the XR...i thought of lubricate my chain on the TDM and maybe svc the caliper...i found out that my rear wheel nut that size 32' is not tight...i am able to turn it with my fingers...and the adjustment nuts and position is not balance of left and right...i was thinking what could happen if the Nut came off last Sunday...remember when we all blast on the way back?i was doing like 195km/hr!!!!

 

Thank god...so i was not able to get the nut tightened and the caliper done because i didnt bring down the right tool..

30mins ago...i just did the caliper servicing...one of the 2 size 12' screws jammed...but able to come out..that was also because i was using the T-wrench...one of the screw is badly corroded...tried to scrape it out but only able to scrape some...grease the inside of the rubber tube on both and grease the screws...and lubricate the caliper piston...everythg seems ok..now rear wheel not jammed..but i guess i need to buy one of the caliper screw...its a special screw...so i somehow need to buy it at Auto M...at the same time,i also brought down the size 32' and tightened the wheel axle nut and adjust its position..

So guys,check you rear wheel axle nut before you ride today...

 

cheers..wow..like doing composition...

 

Yeah lar.. reading man! Alamak, thot u'll call me de caliper..?

[take how]

Hi,

I'm a newbie here and this is my virgin post

got my class 2 this year and thinking of upgrading my SF. read about the TDM here and interested to know if there is a 2008 model. what is the current model, and what are the pros & cons of this bike?

 

thanks for your time.

 

Hi pcr,

Welcome to TDM thread! and Congrats on ur virgin post!

 

Hmm.. to answer ur question.. i suppose u shd had gone thru our topics as well as de Vara n Strom pages.... no joke (i thk it take hours or days to complete) Anyway, is really hard to compare lar, like always said, there no best-bike; is always up to personal liking..

 

Perhaps u can find some of our liking on TDM.. common 1 are like;

1. Light-weight (compare among all de trallies)

2. Its design (personal liking)

3. Fuel comsumption (all TDMers liking)

4. Handling - light n responsive (I find very suitable in sg traffics among class 2 bikes)

5. Low cost part n etc (but see dislike also)

i like this bike most on 1-4.

 

Dislike,

1. Not very helpful parent (u noe lar)

2. Not all parts available (un-common part have to order n wait... ) perhaps is hardly spoilt

 

Good Luck in ur search!

[Royksopp]

wah.. you guys got mini garage, never call me..

hehe..

alright hope to see all ya guys again soon..

cheers!!

[pcr]

Thanks Take How, on doing quickie to my virgin post, and it's such a pleasure to gain so much on your short post

 

jokes aside, i'm also attracted to the few pros highlighted. the low FC is attractive as i've getting 27km/l on my SF. i'm a 6-footer so the higher seat is ideal for me.

 

do you guys serivce your TDMs in JB? they do a good job for my SF!

 

anyway, another knows if there will be a 2008 model?

 

will not spend 2 days thru the vara or vstorm threads. an hour on the TDM thread already peng-san

 

i'll be keeping an eye on this thread & will join some of your local getogethers to know you and your bikes better!

[ansmania]

Hey Take How,

 

Surething. The package is now with VpostUSA... Should be in soon.. I hope.. =0)

[take how]

wah.. you guys got mini garage, never call me..

hehe..

alright hope to see all ya guys again soon..

cheers!!

Yo Roy.. i thk AJ called b4 u lar.. is ok lar, we had done it with you once at least mah.. (we're talkin abt mini-garage)!

Btw, is kinda of shocked when we noe u letgo urs man.. Guess wat, we ever talk abt it.. perhaps u're a cheongster lie mr J*mes.. Ops.. :

 

 

Hey Take How,

 

Surething. The package is now with VpostUSA... Should be in soon.. I hope.. =0)

 

Oh, tat's great Ans.. Tks man! Btw, fyi - few of my kaki askin me to let them have it (if i don't want) even before i collect from you.. Hmm.. is de cig socket so great..? :giddy:

[take how]

Thanks Take How, on doing quickie to my virgin post, and it's such a pleasure to gain so much on your short post

 

jokes aside, i'm also attracted to the few pros highlighted. the low FC is attractive as i've getting 27km/l on my SF. i'm a 6-footer so the higher seat is ideal for me.

 

do you guys serivce your TDMs in JB? they do a good job for my SF!

 

anyway, another knows if there will be a 2008 model?

 

will not spend 2 days thru the vara or vstorm threads. an hour on the TDM thread already peng-san

 

i'll be keeping an eye on this thread & will join some of your local getogethers to know you and your bikes better!

 

Haha.. yeah, me too.. i did went to other pages n read until --> but finally settle with this ride.. Another buddy wento hunt n bought this bike a week after i got mine! but guess wat, he got no-time after he bought his..

 

Where AJ..?

He shd de best person for tis ride to answer on new model, JB servicing n every other detail of tis ride,(i seriously thk so)

 

local meet-up? Sure.. but dun put high hope (u probably seeing few of us only turn up..) Leave ur no, we contact u.. (PM also can)