Lane splitting

[warrior.c.o.n.p]

lane splitting can only be done when u're at most careful n do it correctly.. signal,

 

look 4 blindspot, vision n etc.. talkin bout this im myself sometimes not careful

 

hehe... but so far, touch wood, nothing happen.. ev'ryday b4 riding i say some

 

prayers without fail.. with this it may brighten up ur vision, concentration on the

 

road while riding..

[original_ss]

I tink riders experienced enuff noes that we shld slow down at junctions as we cant c wats oncoming and vice versa...some learn fr others advice while some learned the hard way..hee..

 

Its nt illegal to lanesplit here in s'pore but I believe in some other countries, thats illegal..I actually tink its safer to lanesplit..nt in all situations, but in most situations..

[cgl]

Originally posted by original_ss@Dec 11 2006, 12:14 PM

I tink riders experienced enuff noes that we shld slow down at junctions as we cant c wats oncoming and vice versa...some learn fr others advice while some learned the hard way..hee..

 

Its nt illegal to lanesplit here in s'pore but I believe in some other countries, thats illegal..I actually tink its safer to lanesplit..nt in all situations, but in most situations..

How can it be actually safer to lane split?

 

From my experience, I had probably a handful of close calls either from me lane splitting or from other bikers lane splitting.

 

I had doors opening into my "lane" in a jam, motorcycles perpendicularly cut into me, cars that suddenly swerve into my "lane", me skidding on the slippery lane markings. I survived them all without my helmet touching the tarmac, and not a scratch, but will I survive the next one?

 

I have an uncle who collided into a door that suddenly opened. Broke his arm and leg.

 

So what if it is legal to do so? So what if I won a court case but losing parts of my body just because of my poor trip planning, or my zeal to save 10 min?

 

BTW, I do lane split now and then, but I conciously avoid any situation that might "force" me to lane split, and there is nothing wrong in choosing to queue up behind cars.

[keratsini]

Lanesplit is illegal world-wide. As it is illegal for a car to over take a motorcycle without changing lane completely. This is regardless where your bike is positioned within the lane (Left, Right, Center). Unfortunately bikes keep riding on the lanesplit and car keep squeezing.

 

Please understand NO ONE can over take you within the lane you are travelling. Also you CAN NOT ride between cars.

 

Question: Am I doing lanesplit?

Answer: Yes (Unfortunately, is too tempting to squeeze and go ahead of the pack)

 

Suggestion: Try to do it as less as possible and always be alert and ready to break in case a door opens. Last but not least, DO NOT linesplit while vehicles are in motion. If you have to do it, do it one vehicle at the time, as quickly as possible within the speed limit and safety, unless you are sick and tired of living.

 

Cheers

[ulysses_sc]

Originally posted by keratsini@Dec 11 2006, 04:08 PM

Lanesplit is illegal world-wide. As it is illegal for a car to over take a motorcycle without changing lane completely. This is regardless where your bike is positioned within the lane (Left, Right, Center). Unfortunately bikes keep riding on the lanesplit and car keep squeezing.

 

Please understand NO ONE can over take you within the lane you are travelling. Also you CAN NOT ride between cars.

 

Question: Am I doing lanesplit?

Answer: Yes (Unfortunately, is too tempting to squeeze and go ahead of the pack)

 

Suggestion: Try to do it as less as possible and always be alert and ready to break in case a door opens. Last but not least, DO NOT linesplit while vehicles are in motion. If you have to do it, do it one vehicle at the time, as quickly as possible within the speed limit and safety, unless you are sick and tired of living.

 

Cheers

Lane splitting is NOT illegal worldwide. In fact, it is legal in most states in the US, except for California.

 

In addition, there is no law explicitly prohibiting lane splitting in Singapore, that means it is not illegal. And I am quite sure the same applies in most Asia Pacific countries.

 

Lane splitting, if done at the appropriate times, is actually safer than simply following behind.

 

Generally, it is safe to lane split when:

- bumper to bumper traffic

- slow moving traffic

 

It is dangerous to lane split when:

- fast moving traffic

- during bends

 

In Singapore, too many riders still lane split at 90 or 100km/h, even though everyone around is moving at the legal speed limit. This is what I feel is dangerous riding.

[keratsini]

I hope you are right ulysses_sc, bacause I will be going to Traffic Police to ask them to refund me the fine and cancell my 3 demerit points that they given me for lanespliting at the traffic linght.

 

It also seems the Driving Centers are wrong as well, because if you lanesplit there you immediately fail yr lesson. It will be a good idea to let them know as well.

 

Theaks for letting me know.

 

 

Cheers

[ulysses_sc]

Originally posted by keratsini@Dec 12 2006, 10:07 AM

I hope you are right ulysses_sc, bacause I will be going to Traffic Police to ask them to refund me the fine and cancell my 3 demerit points that they given me for lanespliting at the traffic linght.

 

It also seems the Driving Centers are wrong as well, because if you lanesplit there you immediately fail yr lesson. It will be a good idea to let them know as well.

 

Theaks for letting me know.

 

 

Cheers

You are right. TP can book you for "failing to form up properly". E.g. when waiting to turn at junctions, you are suppossed to wait in line, and hot squeeze to the front. Same for waiting for traffic lights to turn green.

 

The "legal" lanesplitting I am referring to is during rush hour bumper to bumper traffic on the expressways.

 

As to driving centers, we all know they have ridiculous requirements. In my time, you are also penalised if you put your left leg down, or have both legs down. You will also be penalised if you put neutral gear at the lights.

 

So much for realistic benchmarks.

[cgl]

Originally posted by ulysses_sc@Dec 12 2006, 10:43 AM

You are right. TP can book you for "failing to form up properly". E.g. when waiting to turn at junctions, you are suppossed to wait in line, and hot squeeze to the front. Same for waiting for traffic lights to turn green.

 

The "legal" lanesplitting I am referring to is during rush hour bumper to bumper traffic on the expressways.

 

As to driving centers, we all know they have ridiculous requirements. In my time, you are also penalised if you put your left leg down, or have both legs down. You will also be penalised if you put neutral gear at the lights.

 

So much for realistic benchmarks.

By the way, although there is no specific clause on lane splitting, you can also be booked under reckless riding, as I understand from the telephone conversation with TP recently.

 

Those "rediculous requirements" from driving centres are meant to save you. You are adviced not to put the right leg down because you are supposed to step on the brakes when waiting. You are not supposed to put to neutral for safety reasons too. I guess you had never been bumped from behind by cars. I had, once.

 

Frankly, if one can't perform those "rediculous requirements" in the driving schools, then one should not be on the road. Look at those Malaysian riders on our Singapore roads, I'm sure they don't have "rediculous requirements".

 

If TP wanted to book keratsini for the seemingly safe lane splitting at traffic lights, I'm sure they would have some clause to slap you on for lane splitting on expressways, if they so decide.

[cgl]

Originally posted by ulysses_sc@Dec 12 2006, 09:53 AM

Lane splitting, if done at the appropriate times, is actually safer than simply following behind.

 

Generally, it is safe to lane split when:

- bumper to bumper traffic

- slow moving traffic

Maybe I'm being ignorant here, but why is lane splitting safer than following behind?

[keratsini]

ulysses_sc let me ask you opinion on this illustration. We assume there is a wide 2 lane one direction road and two cars travilling parallel along this road. Car A is driving on the exrime left side of the left lane and car B on the extrim right side of the right lane. A car C is following behind. Between car A and B plentu of space for car C to sqeeze through and over take both cars. Please answer following questions:

 

A. Is it Legal for car C to overtake?

B. Is it safe for car C to lanesplit?

 

+ + +

 

In regards to your comments of the Driving Centers that, they have ridiculous requirements you are very wrong. Could you please tell us if you ever heard or witness an accident between 2 vehicles that they followed the Drving Centers "ridiculous requirements" or the Traffic rules to the letter?

 

From my personal experience I can tell you what they teach on the Centers is an eye opener.

 

Cheers

[ulysses_sc]

By the way, although there is no specific clause on lane splitting, you can also be booked under reckless riding, as I understand from the telephone conversation with TP recently.

 

What constitutes reckless riding? In my opinion, lanesplitting at high speeds can quallify. We all have seed our fair share of stunt riders during rush hour. These also qualify as reckless.

 

But carefully threading between bumper to bumper traffic is not reckless, and is generally acceptable.

 

Those "rediculous requirements" from driving centres are meant to save you. You are adviced not to put the right leg down because you are supposed to step on the brakes when waiting. You are not supposed to put to neutral for safety reasons too. I guess you had never been bumped from behind by cars. I had, once.

 

Yes, I do agree these requirements are for safety reason. But there is no need to be applying them everytime everywhere. Ultimately, it's about applying the correct techniques at the right time. E.g. you are alone at a junction at night. We can continue to debate till the cows come home, and there will still be differring opinions.

 

And yes, I too have been bumped from the rear. At a zebra crossing. Never mind I had both my front and rear brakes on. My 200kg GSXR750 still got pushed to the curb and was quite badly damaged. Question is, should I be looking at the front, or the mirrors in such situations? Most of us would be looking at the lights or pedestrians. So does it help if the bike is in gear or not? What if there was a stationary car behind me, and another car bumped into the car behind, which in turn bumped into me? How is keeping if gear going to help?

 

That's why my opinion that not all stuff taught at schools are 100% foolproof. Peace out.

[Unagi]

Originally posted by SeribuCC@Nov 23 2006, 02:22 PM

Agree on this ..

Happened many times at Serangoon Rd..

Suddenly appear from nowhere..

Wifey calls them "magicians" for being able to appear out of nowhere..

Horned, shout at them but they act as though I don't exist!!!

Now I avoid that road on any days at any time forcing me to make a detour but I don mind..

Happened to me at Serangoon Road too!

 

I pulled my front brake and it lock the wheel (due to rain + worn tyres and effective brakes), luckily I let go just in time for it to regain traction. To think that the uncle actually looked at me before running across!

 

Going to change tyres soon...

[keratsini]

Dear ulysses_sc,

 

We do not have an argument here but rather an exchange of opinions. I do not think anyone is offended.

 

Comming back to our issue, you still haven't answer my questions to the illustration if placed earlier on with the 3 cars.

 

Also you did not comment if you heard of witness any accident that traffic rules followed to the letter.

 

+ + +

 

I have also one more question for you. Assumable a rider lanesplits at a very slow traffic (like CTE during pick hours). The vehicles parallel to him suddenly closing the gap too near to the lane white dividing line (however neither of the cars over pass the line) and an accident occurs involving both cars and the bike. The question is that, will both cars claim rider's inssurance to repair their damages or the rider will claim cars' inssurance to repair his bike?

 

Who's inssurance will pay who?

 

Cheers

[ulysses_sc]

Originally posted by keratsini@Dec 12 2006, 11:22 AM

ulysses_sc let me ask you opinion on this illustration. We assume there is a wide 2 lane one direction road and two cars travilling parallel along this road. Car A is driving on the exrime left side of the left lane and car B on the extrim right side of the right lane. A car C is following behind. Between car A and B plentu of space for car C to sqeeze through and over take both cars. Please answer following questions:

 

A. Is it Legal for car C to overtake?

B. Is it safe for car C to lanesplit?

 

+ + +

 

In regards to your comments of the Driving Centers that, they have ridiculous requirements you are very wrong. Could you please tell us if you ever heard or witness an accident between 2 vehicles that they followed the Drving Centers "ridiculous requirements" or the Traffic rules to the letter?

 

From my personal experience I can tell you what they teach on the Centers is an eye opener.

 

Cheers

It's good that we have a healthy non-flaming discussion going on. I feel that there are 2 schools of thought here.

 

1. follow as close as possible to recommended practices

2. adapt accordingly to real world happenings

 

To your scenario, frankly I do not know if it is legal or not for a car to squeeze between. Then again, it really depends on where you are driving. E.g. in Bangkok or KL, no one drives like how they teach it in schools. In such cases, it is actually quite normal for the 3rd car to squeeze through. Since everyone is doing the same, it has become the "norm" already.

 

Safe or not, it really depends on the behaviour of the fellow road users. If people around you are used to and prepared for such scenarios, then generally no problems. But the opposite will hold if you try that in Singapore.

 

Regarding my driving center comments, maybe "ridiculous" is too strong a word. Maybe "overkill" is more suitable. In my previous post, it's more a question of whether there is a need to follow all best practices 100% of the time? To some, overkill is never enough. Really, it's up to the individual to decide.

 

Sure, I have never witnessed an accident if both vehicles are following the recommendations to the letter. But I do have a different opinion on the way they teach emergency braking.

 

Frankly, how many of us here is able to ebrake with both front and rear without locking up the rear? How do you split between 70% front and 30% rear? Most of us leave school with the knowledge that 2 brakes good, 1 brake bad, then proceed to lock the rear during ebraking.

 

Dunno about you, but I find a fishtailing rear much more scary and dangerous than just applying the front. Sure, by right we should be practicing till we can use both brakes correctly, but realistically what are most people doing?

 

Another quirk I feel is the insistence not to have any fingers on the brake and clutch while riding. Isn't it safer to have a couple of fingers covering the brake at all times?

 

My whole point is, keep whatever that has been taught in mind, but always be prepared to adapt accordingly.

[Tourer]

Originally posted by cgl@Dec 12 2006, 10:58 AM

You are adviced not to put the right leg down because you are supposed to step on the brakes when waiting. You are not supposed to put to neutral for safety reasons too. I guess you had never been bumped from behind by cars. I had, once.

What safety reasons does one have for not putting gear into neutral? So you can move off if you see a vehicle closing up on you?

 

I think it is one's perspective of safe riding to judge on what's best for him or herself. I think it's safer for one to put both legs down in event of poor balance and learn to brake with hand braking levers while maneuvering the throttle when necessary.

 

Lane splitting is likewise the same in my opinion, it is very situational. At times when fellow drivers do not welcome the presence of a petite motorcycle "hogging" the entire lane space, they pull up close on me to intimidate me. In this case I will feel safer if I'm in between the lane, lane splitting. Lane splitting also allows you to possess better vision of the traffic ahead when you are blocked by taller SUVs/MPVs/Vans/Lorries etc.

 

In an event of lane splitting between 2 parallel vehicles, you are not totally vulnerable as most of the time drivers will avoid hitting you or in actual fact, the other car (even if it isn't you, the motorcyclist, which they're concerned about). Most of the time you are quite detectable if you are not lane splitting at high speeds.

 

I've personally heard of people getting involved in accidents because they were UNWILLING to lane split at traffic standstills. There were cars infront of the motorcyclist, but he decided to wait out behind the cars as he was unwilling to lanesplit. Came a car speeding from behind and unable to stop in time, sandwiched the rider. He actually detected the car some time ago, but he was not used to lane splitting and did not want to lane split, else he could have avoided the tragedy. Or maybe he could ride up the car?

 

I've also witnessed accidents that were caused by driving centres regulations such as mandatory checking of blindspot. I do not deny the fact that it is necessary and important to check for blindspots, but there are also instances you do not need to. For example after seeing the vehicle that once appeared in your mirror passed by, you can be sure the traffic is clear just by looking at the mirror again as you have already developed a mental image of the traffic condition behind you.

 

My friend tapped a vehicle infront of him because he checked his blindspot and neglected that the vehicle infront of him jammed brake on a slightly congested slow moving traffic. I'm sure he did not tailgate, but he just took slightly longer to check his blindspot, to be overly sure.

 

Though your questions weren't directed at me, but they're instances of driving centres regulation induced accidents. Hope that answers your question. Safe riding has no foolproof guidelines, it depends on how you react to it. I broke a car's mirror while lanesplitting some time ago, the driver claimed against me and he lost the claim. A friend of mine lane splitted during a stationery traffic, a car jutted out and hit him causing him damages and injuries, he claimed against the driver and won.

[Tourer]

Originally posted by keratsini@Dec 12 2006, 10:07 AM

I hope you are right ulysses_sc, bacause I will be going to Traffic Police to ask them to refund me the fine and cancell my 3 demerit points that they given me for lanespliting at the traffic linght.

 

It also seems the Driving Centers are wrong as well, because if you lanesplit there you immediately fail yr lesson. It will be a good idea to let them know as well.

 

Theaks for letting me know.

 

 

Cheers

I was tailgated by a TP mobile unit on his Diversion 900 on a traffic light while lane splitting. He lane splitted with me, I thought he was going to fine me for lane splitting.

 

Nope, he stopped beside me ahead of the pack and gave me a nod. Were you speeding through the stationery traffic then?

[ulysses_sc]

Originally posted by cgl@Dec 12 2006, 11:05 AM

Maybe I'm being ignorant here, but why is lane splitting safer than following behind?

In my opinion, lane splitting in slow moving / bumper to bumper traffic is generally safer than staying in line, because bikers are less likely to be caught in a car sandwich.

 

Notice the emphasis is on slow moving or gridlocked traffic. Of course, lane splitting at higher speeds has much higher risks, and should not be encouraged.

 

Another thing is the bike's speed while lanesplitting. How often have we come cross impatient grand prix wannabes that lanesplit at 80km/h through gridlocked traffic? That, in my opinion, is dangerous.

 

Like everything else, lanesplitting has to be done in moderation, and with great consideration to the surrounding circumstances, which is the gist of my postings.

 

Point to ponder: is it safe to travel at the national speed limits on an unlimited autobahn?

[william_liu]

Originally posted by Marvelkid@Nov 25 2006, 05:36 PM

Lane splitting definitely not illegal.....earlier in the year i got in the same situation .....

Traffic jam on main road......the driver on main road give way to let the car from side road come out....the car came out so suddenly from the side road and i bang directly into the car as i was lane splitting on the main road...didn't see the car coming out from side road......Got into court case with the driver....won the case and i received compensation.

Think this reply in the previous page answers one of the question posted earlier.

[keratsini]

Well, what was to be be said, it has been said. It seems linespliting for most of the riders is normal thing to do. Opinions has being expressed and each indivitual can make up his own mind.

 

cgl started this thread to higlight the seriousness for lanespliting. Also here has been viewed the legality of the same act. It seems some rider are still unaware of the legality and danger of such an act. I hope one day they will review their position to this issue.

 

And for those whom might come back and ask me if I lanespliting the answer is yes, but trying to avoid as much as possible.

 

Thank you for your time.

 

Cheers

 

tourer84 it was at China Town Point.

[cgl]

Originally posted by tourer84@Dec 12 2006, 01:32 PM

What safety reasons does one have for not putting gear into neutral? So you can move off if you see a vehicle closing up on you?

 

I think it is one's perspective of safe riding to judge on what's best for him or herself. I think it's safer for one to put both legs down in event of poor balance and learn to brake with hand braking levers while maneuvering the throttle when necessary.

 

Lane splitting is likewise the same in my opinion, it is very situational. At times when fellow drivers do not welcome the presence of a petite motorcycle "hogging" the entire lane space, they pull up close on me to intimidate me. In this case I will feel safer if I'm in between the lane, lane splitting. Lane splitting also allows you to possess better vision of the traffic ahead when you are blocked by taller SUVs/MPVs/Vans/Lorries etc.

 

In an event of lane splitting between 2 parallel vehicles, you are not totally vulnerable as most of the time drivers will avoid hitting you or in actual fact, the other car (even if it isn't you, the motorcyclist, which they're concerned about). Most of the time you are quite detectable if you are not lane splitting at high speeds.

 

I've personally heard of people getting involved in accidents because they were UNWILLING to lane split at traffic standstills. There were cars infront of the motorcyclist, but he decided to wait out behind the cars as he was unwilling to lanesplit. Came a car speeding from behind and unable to stop in time, sandwiched the rider. He actually detected the car some time ago, but he was not used to lane splitting and did not want to lane split, else he could have avoided the tragedy. Or maybe he could ride up the car?

 

I've also witnessed accidents that were caused by driving centres regulations such as mandatory checking of blindspot. I do not deny the fact that it is necessary and important to check for blindspots, but there are also instances you do not need to. For example after seeing the vehicle that once appeared in your mirror passed by, you can be sure the traffic is clear just by looking at the mirror again as you have already developed a mental image of the traffic condition behind you.

 

My friend tapped a vehicle infront of him because he checked his blindspot and neglected that the vehicle infront of him jammed brake on a slightly congested slow moving traffic. I'm sure he did not tailgate, but he just took slightly longer to check his blindspot, to be overly sure.

 

Though your questions weren't directed at me, but they're instances of driving centres regulation induced accidents. Hope that answers your question. Safe riding has no foolproof guidelines, it depends on how you react to it. I broke a car's mirror while lanesplitting some time ago, the driver claimed against me and he lost the claim. A friend of mine lane splitted during a stationery traffic, a car jutted out and hit him causing him damages and injuries, he claimed against the driver and won.

First of all, when in gear, you can react much faster. Secondly, if someone bumped you, and you are in gear with brakes on, at least you will not be thrown too far out in an uncontrolled manner. That is the reason and it worked for me.

 

Personally, I had not, in my 14 over years of riding, had a car come out behind me just because I'm taking one lane. I'm supposed to take one lane, the drivers know that too. Of course, if I road hog on the outer lane on an expressway, and I see a car coming close, I'll just pull to the left and give way.

 

No one ever honked at me when I take up one lane stopping.

 

If one got into an accident because of checking of blind spots, then why is the person checking blindspots when the front is not clear?

 

It is usually the poor practices and riding habits, not what is been taught being wrong.

 

We are detectable most of the time. But it is only MOST, not always. For a long expressway, for every car you past lane splitting, you are in their blind spot at least 10% of the time.

[cgl]

As I said again and again, I do lane split, but would avoid it as far as I can. To advocate that lane splitting is safer than taking up a lane is not proper. It is a wrong message one gives to new riders. It might be safe if one is 100% alert, not tired, in a good mood, AND, the 50 over car drivers one is passing are also 100% alert, not tired, in a good mood.

 

Anyway, it is a risk one chooses, legal or not is another matter, just like many things in life.

 

A lot of arguments here are based on 99%, but it is the 1% that will cause one serious damage, that's why it is called an accident.

[william_liu]

I think all can be summarise as such:

 

Lane splitting is not illegal when not done recklessly/dangerously, subject to the Traffic Police's intepretation.

However, if you choose to do it, there are certainly risks involved. Being on the right side of the law (another example = right of way) won't prevent accidents from happening, so look out for your own hide first.

 

[Unagi]

Originally posted by cgl@Dec 12 2006, 02:36 PM

Personally, I had not, in my 14 over years of riding, had a car come out behind me just because I'm taking one lane. I'm supposed to take one lane, the drivers know that too. Of course, if I road hog on the outer lane on an expressway, and I see a car coming close, I'll just pull to the left and give way.

 

No one ever honked at me when I take up one lane stopping.

Paiseh ah cgl I think I need to comment on this, actually I think most drivers don't know we're suppose to take one lane. Though I've never been honked also (I ride the centre of the lane too).

 

This was discussed in another thread and I kinda agree with it from the way I see drivers act on the road, tailgating me and pushing me out of lane etc.

 

Just thought I'd mention it for your safety... it's better not to assume drivers know that.

[Tourer]

Originally posted by cgl@Dec 12 2006, 02:36 PM

First of all, when in gear, you can react much faster. Secondly, if someone bumped you, and you are in gear with brakes on, at least you will not be thrown too far out in an uncontrolled manner. That is the reason and it worked for me.

 

Personally, I had not, in my 14 over years of riding, had a car come out behind me just because I'm taking one lane. I'm supposed to take one lane, the drivers know that too. Of course, if I road hog on the outer lane on an expressway, and I see a car coming close, I'll just pull to the left and give way.

 

No one ever honked at me when I take up one lane stopping.

 

If one got into an accident because of checking of blind spots, then why is the person checking blindspots when the front is not clear?

 

It is usually the poor practices and riding habits, not what is been taught being wrong.

 

We are detectable most of the time. But it is only MOST, not always. For a long expressway, for every car you past lane splitting, you are in their blind spot at least 10% of the time.

I am not questioning your 14 years of riding experience but it's surprising that you have yet to had any vehicles coming up to you, horning you for occupying one lane. Yes and you'd probably be surprised that I've been tailgated, horned and flashed at despite travelling on the middle lane, maybe they want to take a closer look at my bike... I'm sure lotsa riders experienced this before.

 

The purpose of blindspot checking is mainly for lane changing isn't it? Precisely because the front is not clear that's why you want to check and lane change to the clear lane? I re-iterate that the rider involved in the accident did maintain safety distance, maybe the distance taught to maintain not long enough? =)

 

Once again, the driver will not swerve against you if there is another car beside it. Hence defines the lane splitting. There is no reason to lane split if you do not move between 2 cars isn't it? So even if you might be in the driver's blindspot, there's no reason it will hit you. Ofcourse if you are saying unless the driver is psycho or drunk... Then even if you do not lane split, you will get hit.

 

Ultimately you did not argue against the benefits of lane splitting I mentioned. Likewise I do not advocate lane splitting the moment you mount onto the motorcycle, it is done when deemed safe and fit. There is a possibility for anyone's argument to be just 99% correct or lesser, and that is everyone.

 

I did not say lane splitting is safer, but there is a possibility that it might be safer to do under the right circumstances.

[cgl]

Originally posted by william_liu@Dec 12 2006, 03:16 PM

I think all can be summarise as such:

 

Lane splitting is not illegal when not done recklessly/dangerously, subject to the Traffic Police's intepretation.

However, if you choose to do it, there are certainly risks involved. Being on the right side of the law (another example = right of way) won't prevent accidents from happening, so look out for your own hide first.

 

I think Mr Liu had summed up everything nicely.