against the law to travel at 70km/h in kpe at lane 2 ?

[MT76]

Hi all,

 

Is it against the law to travel at 70km/h in kpe at lane 2 with lane 3 at light traffic?

 

Got warned because of this.... scratching my head...

 

MT

[aRcHeR]

warned by who?

[kimmeng]

of course not.

[ulysses_sc]

Sounds like road hogging.

[dragonforce]

Sounds like road hogging.

 

kpe max only 70km/h, TS travelling 70km/h at lane 2 not lane 1. i find its still reasonable. just dun do that on lane 1, overtaking lane.

 

PS: KPE really fking hot place. bike temp climb to 100deg, after going out of the tunnel temp dropped to 88deg within a short distance.

[MT76]

warned by who?

 

By some guy who is supposedly a police. After I high beam him when he cut into my lane abruptly.

[MT76]

of course not.

 

I like that lady dancing... hahaha.. so funny.

[Maja]

By some guy who is supposedly a police. After I high beam him when he cut into my lane abruptly.

 

he is trying to play punk with you.

[crankcase]

Sounds like a punk scare tactic because you high-beamed him.

 

What speed did he say you should be doing in Lane 2? Travel faster? Slower?

[kaiq]

Nobody come out and said "gotcha"?

 

Jokes aside, think the first thing is to confirm whether you are travelling at 70km/h or not. I find those 2B bikes meter not accurate. Prehaps your 70 and his 70 are not the same 70

[aRcHeR]

By some guy who is supposedly a police. After I high beam him when he cut into my lane abruptly.

 

huh? either he's a police or not a police.. there's isn't a supposedly police..

 

or are you referring to auxilary police on the mp3 with hi-visibility vest?

[MT76]

Nobody come out and said "gotcha"?

 

Jokes aside, think the first thing is to confirm whether you are travelling at 70km/h or not. I find those 2B bikes meter not accurate. Prehaps your 70 and his 70 are not the same 70

 

Was watching my meter lei. Its about 70-75. So I shouldn't be hogging right? Anyway, impossible to be on Lane 3 ma, else have to cut in and out every 200 meters.

[MT76]

huh? either he's a police or not a police.. there's isn't a supposedly police..

 

or are you referring to auxilary police on the mp3 with hi-visibility vest?

 

No la. He just flash me a pass. So I assume is mata loh. I good citizen, obey all laws one.

[crankcase]

So he pulled you over to warn you? And was he asking you to drive faster or slower??

 

What was he riding/driving?

[arthur_chan]

can describe more details on the whole incident? who is he? what pass? what type of warning, verbal? asked u to travel faster or slower? did u stopped at shoulder n talked to him or just passed by? what is he driving/riding? wearing uniform?

[MT76]

can describe more details on the whole incident? who is he? what pass? what type of warning, verbal? asked u to travel faster or slower? did u stopped at shoulder n talked to him or just passed by? what is he driving/riding? wearing uniform?

 

Not in uniform and didn't stop inside kpe, but outside. I think he was annoyed when i high beam. Anyway, just just happy that i wasn't in the wrong.

[MT76]

Oh, he didn't mention anything about speed. But wasn't pleased that i was supposedly "hogging". I find that there's quite a bit of incident regarding road courtesy lately, most glaring are those involving celebrities. I guess all motorist should just be a little patient especially now when vehicle population are at its peak, while roads building can't catch up yet. Being a few minutes early or late doesn't really make much different.

[arthur_chan]

Not in uniform and didn't stop inside kpe, but outside. I think he was annoyed when i high beam. Anyway, just just happy that i wasn't in the wrong.

 

huh flashing u a pass n probably not police? even if police who's off-duty, they have no right to book or give warning for such small incident(correct me if i'm wrong). i'm guessing he's prob a impatient driver who wants to find trouble, just be-careful with this kind of ppl, small incidents like these can turn out to be road rage.

[Lexanez]

Hmm, with regards to the incident, you are absolutely in no wrong as it is legally correct to be riding at lane 2/3 at speeds not exceeding 70Km/h in KPE and the fella in question was wrong to cut into your lane abruptly as it might cause an accident.

 

However, there is a complication. The fella is either a off duty policeman or a person impersonating a police officer. In either case, he is acting like a hooligan and the latter being a criminal offence. An off duty policeman possessed the same authority as a civilian but is able to act in the event of a crime. He cannot give you a formal warning without carrying proper identifications, unless it is an advice. If he is aggressive in any manner, you could complain him for intimidation.

 

When I was still schooling in a secondary school, I was manhandled by an "off duty police officer" for causing trouble in a park.

 

I was riding around in a mountain bike with my friends when this jogger suddenly grabbed me on my arm, nearly causing me to fall off the bike. He said he was an "off-duty police officer" and warned me to stay off the park. Luckily there are 2 constables on patrol nearby and this incident has caused them to take note and walk towards us.

 

Upon seeing those constables walking towards us, the jogger immediately let go of me and told the officers that I was being a menace in the park. However, when I told the policemen about what I was doing and mentioned about the jogger being an "off-duty policeman", the jogger told me to shut up.

 

Well, what happened next was kinda hilarious. The jogger was arrested for impersonation and one of the policeman took down my statement at the nearby police station. The look on the fella's face was priceless.

[Fried Rice]

Hmm, with regards to the incident, you are absolutely in no wrong as it is legally correct to be riding at lane 2/3 at speeds not exceeding 70Km/h in KPE and the fella in question was wrong to cut into your lane abruptly as it might cause an accident.

 

However, there is a complication. The fella is either a off duty policeman or a person impersonating a police officer. In either case, he is acting like a hooligan and the latter being a criminal offence. An off duty policeman possessed the same authority as a civilian but is able to act in the event of a crime. He cannot give you a formal warning without carrying proper identifications, unless it is an advice. If he is aggressive in any manner, you could complain him for intimidation.

 

When I was still schooling in a secondary school, I was manhandled by an "off duty police officer" for causing trouble in a park.

 

I was riding around in a mountain bike with my friends when this jogger suddenly grabbed me on my arm, nearly causing me to fall off the bike. He said he was an "off-duty police officer" and warned me to stay off the park. Luckily there are 2 constables on patrol nearby and this incident has caused them to take note and walk towards us.

 

Upon seeing those constables walking towards us, the jogger immediately let go of me and told the officers that I was being a menace in the park. However, when I told the policemen about what I was doing and mentioned about the jogger being an "off-duty policeman", the jogger told me to shut up.

 

Well, what happened next was kinda hilarious. The jogger was arrested for impersonation and one of the policeman took down my statement at the nearby police station. The look on the fella's face was priceless.

 

that will really teach him a lesson.. what a joker

 

i hope if he continues doing that someday he will get whacked by a group of people

 

anyway you were really lucky. i bet you had a good laugh after sharing that experience with your friends

[biting_point]

i experienced an incident with an off duty police..

was at lane 2 at TPE (80-90kph) IIRC, then he was behind me kept flashing high beam..

then i moved to lane 1.. he just followed.. i move back to 2, he followed..

 

I jammed brakes then he then did too..

 

I went out at Lentor, he sped up in front of me and flash me his warrant card (i know it's a warrant card as then my friend had the same one too), he was with his family in the car..

 

I did not think much of the incident until during my BMT, a love letter from TP came..

I was charged dangerous driving and was fined $200 + 6pts demerit..

I ended up in the interview room, and explained the whole scenerio..

I ended with "I was doing nothing wrong, but the police shouldnt misuse/abuse his powers.."

 

after a few weeks, the IO called and say I dun need to pay fine and no pts will be deducted..

then she told me to ride so that i would not hog lane.. har??????

 

if you are travelling at the speed limit at lane 2.. you are not in wrong.. unless there's emergency vehicles behind you that you should give way..

if anyone would want to overtake you, they will do so from the right, and sometimes left..

if you remember his car license plate, just write a complaint to TP..

I had friends that install HID and gotten complaint, TP just send him a letter to go inspection..

be a true Singaporean, complain.. haha..

[deadstrength]

I went out at Lentor, he sped up in front of me and flash me his warrant card (i know it's a warrant card as then my friend had the same one too), he was with his family in the car..

 

How he flash his warrant card at you? Pull your car over?

If I was confronted by these people, I will just "oh, okay, report me to TP now and we'll watch the traffic cameras together"

[crankcase]

I'm not sure about Singapore, but in most countries, you are legally allowed to inspect the officer's identification before you follow his instructions. It would be especially useful in this case.

 

Of course, there's no need to get rude or loud about it, just ask politely to see their identification. If they refuse, you should not be obliged to listen to them. Note down their vehicle number and any other details you can (including a physical description of the person) and lodge a report with the TP. Or if the so-called-officer gets intimidating, call the police on the spot and ask to verify his identity. Your doubts should be treated as legitimate if the person is not in uniform and not driving a marked police vehicle. Even with the right credentials, as has been mentioned here, an off-duty police officer doesn't have the authority to pull you over for nothing. This is bullying and harassment, make your voice heard!

[arthur_chan]

I'm not sure about Singapore, but in most countries, you are legally allowed to inspect the officer's identification before you follow his instructions. It would be especially useful in this case.

i believe this is true in SG. any said person (even if in uniform), u are allowed to inspect his ID, call the respective department to verify his identity before u listen to him. u have the right not to listen to him and just walk off if his identity cannot be verified and if he tries to stop u, can just call the proper authorities.

[Fried Rice]

actually i kana something like this before

 

i was just sitting below the void decks talking to my friends, and 2 jokers from don't know what HSA or NEA want to do a full spot check on us and our belongings.

 

so i asked for their pass, however the fellow showing me the pass seems to be hiding something. he just showed it to me for 2-3 secs, and when i want to hold it for a proper read, he said no need to touch his IC and read it, just do what he says.

 

then i refused, he tried to play punk with me.. then i punk him back by really calling the police after i threatened, but those 2 fags still refused to back off.

 

in the end the police said they needed more than 45 mins to reach as it was hari raya so i just told the police no need to come already.

 

so i just continue siting there and ignoring those 2 officers,occasionally talk back at them, in the end they couldn't take it, the just left without doing anything