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Hi all,

 

Any experienced riders willing to share how to prevent fishtailing especially during wet surface conditions?

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front/back brake 60/40 or 70/30 for bikes

front/back brake 40/60 or 30/70 for scooters

 

ratio diff depends on brake setup and weight setup.

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I've noticed that sometimes when using the front brake or slowing down before a turn, your body tends to move forward a little due to the drop in speed, making your right foot inadvertently depress the rear brake a little. My bike skidded while taking a bend recently because of this. I only realised I was pressing on the rear brake when the back wheel started to skid.

 

You might want to use even less of the rear brake than you use currently because what I've described above tends to happen when braking as well, so you end up depressing the rear brake a bit more than you think you are.

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70/30 or 60/40 or 50/50..

 

i seriously WONDER how do you guys measure by that.. you guys got put pressure gauge on your brake lever/pedal to tell you how much % are you guys braking? :sian:

 

seriously, just go out and ride more to learn how your bike handles on different conditions. with much mileage clocked on your ride, you will know how to react when faced with different situations.

 

just remember, you scrub speed/stop using your front brakes. your rear is only for scrubbing off speed.

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Hi all,

 

Any experienced riders willing to share how to prevent fishtailing especially during wet surface conditions?

my frz, even F1 racer oso will fishtailing on wet road. that means dont ride fast....

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Hi all,

 

Any experienced riders willing to share how to prevent fishtailing especially during wet surface conditions?

 

Better tyres. Good brake pads. Travel slower. Avoid road paint. Do not lean too much when turning. Practice rear jam brake. ( Go for a half day defensive course at bbdc/ssdc)

 

My ta200 fishtails quite abit. My steed 400 never did. Prob due to the weight.

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Hi all,

 

Any experienced riders willing to share how to prevent fishtailing especially during wet surface conditions?

 

fishtailing,I suspect cannot be remove altogether, it can only be reduce and control.

 

as what Hydher mention , go to SSDC or for that matter any DC to learn and practice fishtail under control, so that you can experience what it's like and then practice on your bike as each bike setup is different.

 

Do practice and when it's relatively safe to do so, tries it on your own bike under various condition , with luggage pillion , low speed , high speed, etc, it could seriously save lives and injuries

 

as for wet ground fishtailing I will , instinctively release the brakes , counter steer , reduce gear and increase throttle slightly then close or play with the throttle slightly to gain rear traction you will feel a slight jerk then , do intermittent braking then stop one side , take out lighter and ciggy and thank G_d.

 

ride safe everyone.

 

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Hi all,

 

Any experienced riders willing to share how to prevent fishtailing especially during wet surface conditions?

 

1. Do not jam your rear brakes nor apply forcefully during cornering

2. Apply throttle smoothly through cornering for good tyre bite

3. Use good suitable tyres

 

Do the above and you will be able to eliminate fishtailing 99.9%

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70/30 or 60/40 or 50/50..

 

i seriously WONDER how do you guys measure by that.. you guys got put pressure gauge on your brake lever/pedal to tell you how much % are you guys braking? :sian:

 

seriously, just go out and ride more to learn how your bike handles on different conditions. with much mileage clocked on your ride, you will know how to react when faced with different situations.

 

just remember, you scrub speed/stop using your front brakes. your rear is only for scrubbing off speed.

 

It's all by feeling of your machine. Best way as you mentioned, get more experience and ride more!

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Just the other day, there was a car who jammed brake in front of me because a rider anyhow come out from under the bridge as it was raining. I stepped hard on my rear brakes about 50 front, 50 back. My rear wheel locked but nothing serious happened. Most of my accidents happened because my front wheel locked. At least rear wheel lock still can control.

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Urh...

 

Well, if your bike skids, it skids. There's no way to prevent it, but you can reduce its chance to skid by simply riding safe in the wet.

 

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First of all its advisable if you ride with such a speed that if you apply brakes, rear wheel will not skid. But if you have desire to drive fast just remember one thing, apply rear brake mildly then the front one and after the bike is in controllable speed now you can stop bike using both brakes. This way chances of skiding a bike lowers.

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Hi all,

 

Any experienced riders willing to share how to prevent fishtailing especially during wet surface conditions?

 

Ans 1 - Don't use rear brake when not necessary. Use 100% front.

Ans 2 - Press lightly and progressively. Use more of front brake.

Ans 3 - Slide until you know how to control the sliding.. (That's what I did.. =D )

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ABS nt exactly safer. you still will go down.

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Another way is perhaps to avoid riding under wet conditions all together.

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ABS nt exactly safer. you still will go down.

 

Better than relying on your tapping the brakes, which might not happen in an emergency. Of course ABS sometimes have a temper, activating at the wrong time and place.

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