SP?KRR?need some help

[SpeedyJ]

Hi guys,

 

i need some help in making decision on my coming bike.

is sp or kawa better? in terms of servicing, control and resale value?

 

only talking about this 2 bikes,hope u pros can help enlighten, thanks.

 

and what is exhaust open?

Edited March 21, 2012 by SpeedyJ

[WanFazer]

If u r newbie n no experience in bikes, stay away from those 2..

[Figila]

If u r newbie n no experience in bikes, stay away from those 2..

 

 

hahaha..coool comments.

fastbike.old bike.expensive insurance.fun to ride.

[SpeedyJ]

If u r newbie n no experience in bikes, stay away from those 2..

 

tell me newbies like everyone didnt start with this bike..

[SpeedyJ]

If u r newbie n no experience in bikes, stay away from those 2..

 

tell me newbies like everyone didnt start with this bike..

[fabianau]

most imporantly get a friend who ride those to view and test for you. u'll have a big hole in your picket if u get a problematic one. to me kr and sp i pick kr although sp looks nicer. why? kr is newer, of coz don get those renewed ones, kr is faster, if u r a speed demon, kr has more room for modifications compared to sp. kr parts is widely available in singapore and across our waters at jb. sp parts hard to find in sg. downside is kr insurance super ex especiallt if u r a p plate less than 21yo. at least 1.3k...

[crazydj]

tell me newbies like everyone didnt start with this bike..

 

I didn't when i was a newbie! So are you saying that i was a PRO to start with?

[ben1112]

Interesting trend. When I started riding 5yrs ago and my peers who started earlier then me, everybody chose from the 3 popular 2strokers tzm, sp and KR. Nowadays i see so many advice to shun these bikes. During our ownership, it didn't occur to me that any of these bikes where expensive to fix or mod. We all whack to a point or another that needed overhaul and it wasn't expensive. So why now everybody seem to advise against these bikes?

 

Yes sure everybody whack these bikes but for sure it's not expensive to fix it ain't it?

[SpeedyJ]

I didn't when i was a newbie! So are you saying that i was a PRO to start with?

 

u might be the pro one that didnt wanna start with 2 stroke... haha..

[SpeedyJ]

Interesting trend. When I started riding 5yrs ago and my peers who started earlier then me, everybody chose from the 3 popular 2strokers tzm, sp and KR. Nowadays i see so many advice to shun these bikes. During our ownership, it didn't occur to me that any of these bikes where expensive to fix or mod. We all whack to a point or another that needed overhaul and it wasn't expensive. So why now everybody seem to advise against these bikes?

 

Yes sure everybody whack these bikes but for sure it's not expensive to fix it ain't it?

 

yeah i think i will go with KR.. since the spare parts are more avail..

i think in a few yrs time there will be no 2 strokes left..so jus try out 2 strokes before it disappear from earth.

[WanFazer]

Pple advise against those 2 now cos pple r getting smarter.. Old bike, insurance darn ex, much more ex than my GTR1400 , running cost... Aiyah nevermind lah, juz get wat u want coz its ur $$ so its gonna b ur loss n i juz watch n rotflmao ...

[SpeedyJ]

Pple advise against those 2 now cos pple r getting smarter.. Old bike, insurance darn ex, much more ex than my GTR1400 , running cost... Aiyah nevermind lah, juz get wat u want coz its ur $$ so its gonna b ur loss n i juz watch n rotflmao ...

 

watch and rotflmao by all means.. maybe ppl are getting lazy n don bother on maintenance..tts right its my money and if dont have informative comments,dont try.

[WanFazer]

watch and rotflmao by all means.. maybe ppl are getting lazy n don bother on maintenance..tts right its my money and if dont have informative comments,dont try.

 

Haha wat more information u want from those 2 bikes ? U can get e info from threads that already started way b4 u post it here lolz... Its juz 'sad' to c youngsters being silly to purchase sumting dat not worth to buy but then its expected.. Lolzzzz...

[MrHui]

Hi guys,

 

i need some help in making decision on my coming bike.

is sp or kawa better? in terms of servicing, control and resale value?

 

only talking about this 2 bikes,hope u pros can help enlighten, thanks.

 

and what is exhaust open?

 

Servicing, F/C both about the same.

Size and handling, SP slightly bigger and better

Kawa insurance is much more exp... Enough to kill

 

P.S Have at least 1k cash in hand for replacement of parts / towing if you're considerin this 2 bikes!

[WanFazer]

Servicing, F/C both about the same.

Size and handling, SP slightly bigger and better

Kawa insurance is much more exp... Enough to kill

 

P.S Have at least 1k cash in hand for replacement of parts / towing if you're considerin this 2 bikes!

 

Haha where got dat kind of cash in hand bro, if got then wnt b considering those 2 PIA bikes lOlzz ...

[MrHui]

Haha where got dat kind of cash in hand bro, if got then wnt b considering those 2 PIA bikes lOlzz ...

 

Haha owning these 2 bikes really not easy... Still remember when i was riding KR, every month without fail sure gt something spoil

[haoKR]

Hi TS,both of them same 1 la

If u mod,FC will go down.

Servicing? Both differ not much.

Kr insurance $200 more?

[ben1112]

Haha owning these 2 bikes really not easy... Still remember when i was riding KR, every month without fail sure gt something spoil

Well, didn't you considered fixing everything and checking everything was within spec after getting the bike? Like doing a teardown and checking ring end gaps, compression test, big end play, stator ohms, etc.

 

I think if a well informed buyer does his due diligence, buying a pre-owned small capacity bike is practical and more cost effective. However for a person who is not very technically inclined and know what do look out for, buying new is probably a better choice.

[ben1112]

Haha where got dat kind of cash in hand bro, if got then wnt b considering those 2 PIA bikes lOlzz ...

You mean to say you encourage maxing out one's budget and leave no margin for error?

[haoKR]

sometimes,when buying a 2nd hand stuff,i think luck plays a little part as well..

[raverus]

Well, didn't you considered fixing everything and checking everything was within spec after getting the bike? Like doing a teardown and checking ring end gaps, compression test, big end play, stator ohms, etc.

 

I think if a well informed buyer does his due diligence, buying a pre-owned small capacity bike is practical and more cost effective. However for a person who is not very technically inclined and know what do look out for, buying new is probably a better choice.

 

KR and SP discont long ago.

[ben1112]

sometimes,when buying a 2nd hand stuff,i think luck plays a little part as well..

Yes, that's true as well. But cant depend on it too.

KR and SP discont long ago.

Yes Sir, I know. I meant to say new - other options.

[WanFazer]

You mean to say you encourage maxing out one's budget and leave no margin for error?

 

My point here is to b patient... Y pple go for those 2 bikes ? Simple, coz its cheap... But e running costs will b ex... So if ur budget already tight, y go for a problematic bike ?.. Isn't dat asking for trouble ?...

 

Buying a bike needs a proper financial plan.... Besides having $ for e downpayment, u gotta have spare cash to stand by n dat spare cash r strictly for e bike n not for anything else...

 

Ok lah i juz share my experience aite... As part of my mthly financial budget, i'll set aside $100 each mth n put it in my bike's "foundation"... So when e time comes for servicing, i use dat $$ n didn't touch any of my salary $ to pay for my bike's servicing.. On top of dat i got savings, juz in case my "bike foundation" not enuf $$... For my installment, everytime get bonus i pay 6 mths advance so e nxt 6 mths i got no worries bout installment but e so called $ that i suppose to pay for each mth, i'll put it aside n place it in my "bike foundation" or top up my saving.. So when my bike's birthday arrive, i'll use e "bike foundation" to pay for e insurance n road tax..

 

So where did i get e $ to buy e bike in e 1st place ? .. Save lah... So to ans to ur ques, everyone of us have a choice to choose so choose wisely... Being impatient wud only syiok for a while but regret for a long time... Bottomline is, after get license muz die2 buy bike meh ? B4 tis can take public transport so y not sacrifice a bit longer n save up 1st then decide...

[Jehuty]

Well, didn't you considered fixing everything and checking everything was within spec after getting the bike? Like doing a teardown and checking ring end gaps, compression test, big end play, stator ohms, etc.

 

I think if a well informed buyer does his due diligence, buying a pre-owned small capacity bike is practical and more cost effective. However for a person who is not very technically inclined and know what do look out for, buying new is probably a better choice.

 

Well we showing off technical knowledge or what? Because if you have to spend all that on making the bike 'new' again, could might as well buy a new or a newer 4 stroker. IMO for 2B, just stick to your kupchais, YBRs etc, more cost effective and could serve as a side bike in the future. Besides these little 2 strokers have horrible resale value, especially if you buy from shop.

[ben1112]

My point here is to b patient... Y pple go for those 2 bikes ? Simple, coz its cheap... But e running costs will b ex... So if ur budget already tight, y go for a problematic bike ?.. Isn't dat asking for trouble ?...

 

Buying a bike needs a proper financial plan.... Besides having $ for e downpayment, u gotta have spare cash to stand by n dat spare cash r strictly for e bike n not for anything else...

 

Ok lah i juz share my experience aite... As part of my mthly financial budget, i'll set aside $100 each mth n put it in my bike's "foundation"... So when e time comes for servicing, i use dat $$ n didn't touch any of my salary $ to pay for my bike's servicing.. On top of dat i got savings, juz in case my "bike foundation" not enuf $$... For my installment, everytime get bonus i pay 6 mths advance so e nxt 6 mths i got no worries bout installment but e so called $ that i suppose to pay for each mth, i'll put it aside n place it in my "bike foundation" or top up my saving.. So when my bike's birthday arrive, i'll use e "bike foundation" to pay for e insurance n road tax..

 

So where did i get e $ to buy e bike in e 1st place ? .. Save lah... So to ans to ur ques, everyone of us have a choice to choose so choose wisely... Being impatient wud only syiok for a while but regret for a long time... Bottomline is, after get license muz die2 buy bike meh ? B4 tis can take public transport so y not sacrifice a bit longer n save up 1st then decide...

 

I think that is good advice.