[Group] YAMAHA Fazer

[jazz_25]

jus wondering if anyone going up for MotoGP next mth? How far is it to Sepang?

[stwb1981]

Well make no diff if juz change colour...

well the japs are like tat ...lol

 

wat tis battery indicator...?

isit voltmeter or ...?

sound diff fr the usual voltmeter...

[maxxmadness]

huat ah!!!

now we wait and see what you get when you mix candy and banana together...

[Intruder]

huat ah!!!

now we wait and see what you get when you mix candy and banana together...

 

The equation tentatively give the end product of 'LAO SAI'

[Constructicon]

Well make no diff if juz change colour...

well the japs are like tat ...lol

 

wat tis battery indicator...?

isit voltmeter or ...?

sound diff fr the usual voltmeter...

 

Its the same bro.

You can call it stwb1981's Super Battery Juice Power Meter if you want also.

[stwb1981]

Its the same bro.

You can call it stwb1981's Super Battery Juice Power Meter if you want also.

 

Haha....

like tat oso can sia mate....

 

Roger tat...

[pichudot]

Then I also monitor mine and tell you soon. haha...

 

ok let's share good information!

 

 

wat tis battery indicator...?

isit voltmeter or ...?

sound diff fr the usual voltmeter...

 

Its the same bro.

You can call it stwb1981's Super Battery Juice Power Meter if you want also.

 

Haha....

like tat oso can sia mate....

 

Roger tat...

 

it's different from voltmeter... voltmeter tell you how many volts is available in your battery as well as the usage as well as if its charging or not, something like that right? battery indicator directly tell u wad is the level of your battery is left...

 

basically there is 2 types... comfort indicator & comfort indicator eyelet... i got the 1st one from limbat but yet to install...

 

link: http://www.ctek.com/PDF/ADD-ON_Comfort_Indicator_flyer_UK_low.pdf

[maxxmadness]

The equation tentatively give the end product of 'LAO SAI'

 

ya but if this equation is done with fermentation and procesing and kept under pressure for 9 months, i m sure the end product will be very much different from yours...

[stwb1981]

 

ok let's share good information!

it's different from voltmeter... voltmeter tell you how many volts is available in your battery as well as the usage as well as if its charging or not, something like that right? battery indicator directly tell u wad is the level of your battery is left...

 

basically there is 2 types... comfort indicator & comfort indicator eyelet... i got the 1st one from limbat but yet to install...

 

link: http://www.ctek.com/PDF/ADD-ON_Comfort_Indicator_flyer_UK_low.pdf

 

ook mate...

Nw i get the whole pic....

Yup voltmeter tell u hw "healthy" the Charging (Rectificer & Stator Coil) is....

The indicator eyelet seem better for motorbikes coz less bulkier & much easier to install.... (Plug & Play & Shove it underseat...lol)

i believe u gona mount it onto the dash panel or handlebar or sumting like tat rite for the comfort indicator instead of shoving it underseat (indicator eyelet)...?

What make u get the comfort indicator instead of the indicator eyelet?

Care to elborate....?

Rem on the prev page we were dicussing on the charger thingy...

i believe it 2 seperate issues rite....

Bike Batt Charger & Bike Batt Comfort Indicator/Indicator Eyelet?

 

Possible to pm mi the pricing..?

 

This is a gd piece of device to have....

Enchance awareness of when the batt going to give up & when used together with the voltmeter, I believe this combination will be the ultimate safety precaution...

Edited September 21, 2009 by stwb1981

[cbr150rr051rbc]

This is a photoshop take on the "gen 3", i tink.

 

Well, there's talk about taking the latest R1 cross-plank engine and retuning it for the "Gen3". The head fairing with those R2 lights...etc. All talk now, i suppose.

 

Anyway, i wonder a average joe like me can feel the difference between cross-plank, narrow plank, rainbow plank...etc.

 

Just give me a good engine, a good riding posture, good this, good that, can liao, but most important, good price. haha...

 

Yap... Found this photo on the web...

Most likely, Photoshop at its best. Its too hybrid.

 

IMO only, strictly.

 

It's a neither here nor there & you love it or hate it design..... i call it half pail sh!t design. With the R1 head cowl and tail, FZ has lost it's original taste of Street look. Look closely, the mirrors, the tissue box exhaust Ride height and posture.....etc betray the look and are parts of the destructive 'ingredients' that kills the fiercesome look when they try very hard to make fierce the FZ, although it is only a Photoshoped picture.

 

The current FZ1 has already having this problem. Want to go fast it can, but less the uber power of a sport breed. Want to ride real comfy, the half pail sh!t bloom stick bar and height can't let you seat nicely in a comfy touring posture. Want to 'pee chia' your arms postured like chicken wings and tight wrist turning on the throttle.

 

Two critical factors which seems always haunting each another. Look versus user friendly... to have killer look, rider need to accomodate the riding posture, meaning back breaking experience if to go long distance but this give the sharp handling and look.

 

To ride comfortably, the killer look and sharp handling factors will be lessen.

 

Difficult to find a bike each can let riders to have the best of both.

 

Give me a cross plane 09 R1 engine (no detune pls), toughened frame work (if not the raw force may crack the frame in no time), better riding posture and less vibration and i am content.... surely there is a price to pay la... by then i maybe retire from the Yammy scene liao... maybe my daughter can benefit from it.

 

IMO + Half.

 

That is more in line wit current line of sportbike.

Gen3 FZ1 has to be fierce in body design.

It must protruded the killer aura to inspire the bystander.

The flagship of Yamaha's sport tourer has to incorporate the fiercest look in body design.

 

Gen3 FZ1 engine needs to perform closer to current R1 standard.

Cross-plane design form M1 is like god send. Tks to MotoGP.

Torque of Vtwin and power of inline combined into one.

This engine design is ideal for sport tourer, to overcome the extra wind resistance due to the bulbous nature associated with taller windscreen and some unwelcome side boxes.

 

Sport Tourer, means SPORT type kind of touring. Thus riding position has to be as sporty as possible.

No matter how, Yamaha chief engineer will incorporate sportiness into Gen3 FZ1.

The degree of sporty riding position will very much depends on the crossplane's tuned engine.

If logic is to prevail. I will be seeing a more sporty riding position on the Gen3 over Gen2.

There are no two ways about it. Higher speed capability on Gen3 require more sporty and capable rider to handle the Gen3. (The current Gen2 riding position and geometry may be passed to future FZ8.) Hence with the sporty rider position provided, non pro riders will soon learned, to appreciate the concept, and enjoy the sportiness package with a naked designed.

 

As for retired sportbike riders. They shu enjoy the Gen3 wit less complain then the non pro rider.

 

Most important economic consideration on the Gen3 upgrade is:

Price below s$20k OTR w/o ins, to expand our local fans.

 

Looking forward for a affordable sporty Gen3 FZ1.

[Intruder]

ya but if this equation is done with fermentation and procesing and kept under pressure for 9 months, i m sure the end product will be very much different from yours...

 

Your equation is surely much better than mine.... :clap:

[pichudot]

ook mate...

Nw i get the whole pic....

Yup voltmeter tell u hw "healthy" the Charging (Rectificer & Stator Coil) is....

The indicator eyelet seem better for motorbikes coz less bulkier & much easier to install.... (Plug & Play & Shove it underseat...lol)

i believe u gona mount it onto the dash panel or handlebar or sumting like tat rite for the comfort indicator instead of shoving it underseat (indicator eyelet)...?

 

 

What make u get the comfort indicator instead of the indicator eyelet?

Care to elborate....?

 

Rem on the prev page we were dicussing on the charger thingy...

i believe it 2 seperate issues rite....

Bike Batt Charger & Bike Batt Comfort Indicator/Indicator Eyelet?

 

Possible to pm mi the pricing..?

 

This is a gd piece of device to have....

Enchance awareness of when the batt going to give up & when used together with the voltmeter, I believe this combination will be the ultimate safety precaution...

yup, the eyelet is easier to install...

 

the one with dash panel is for those bros who like to look nice... hahaha... for me, i got the one with dash panel, gonna install it into my dash panel...

 

basically, there is 3 lights, red, amber and green... it works like traffic lights like that, green = healthy... amber = time to charge... red? of cus warning lo... hehehehe... eyelet one has jus the 3 lights but no indication on wad does it means... dash panel one have everything to explain to you in layman term...

 

previously we are talking abt batt charger... and yes, it mean this...

 

pricing wise... i would suggest you get it from limbat...

 

yup... ultimate safety precaution... recommend to vanselle too... hahaha! cheers!

[stwb1981]

yup, the eyelet is easier to install...

 

the one with dash panel is for those bros who like to look nice... hahaha... for me, i got the one with dash panel, gonna install it into my dash panel...

 

basically, there is 3 lights, red, amber and green... it works like traffic lights like that, green = healthy... amber = time to charge... red? of cus warning lo... hehehehe... eyelet one has jus the 3 lights but no indication on wad does it means... dash panel one have everything to explain to you in layman term...

 

previously we are talking abt batt charger... and yes, it mean this...

 

pricing wise... i would suggest you get it from limbat...

 

yup... ultimate safety precaution... recommend to vanselle too... hahaha! cheers!

 

icic mate....

so for yr model ...

u can get a charger fr limbat to charge...

while the indicator eyelet is juz purely a indicator

charging will involve removing the batt etc...

as wat yr link suggest...?

 

so when yr installation of indicator is done...

mind post a pic here ...?

at least have a rough guideline & idea for mi to choose between eyelet or yr type...lol

Cheers!!!

[Constructicon]

icic mate....

so for yr model ...

u can get a charger fr limbat to charge...

while the indicator eyelet is juz purely a indicator

charging will involve removing the batt etc...

as wat yr link suggest...?

 

so when yr installation of indicator is done...

mind post a pic here ...?

at least have a rough guideline & idea for mi to choose between eyelet or yr type...lol

Cheers!!!

 

Hi bro, thanks for the clarification.

 

I got a question though, with the voltmeter measuring the battery when the engine is not on(bike is not charging the battery), isnt that the voltmeter already measuring the life of the battery?

 

Thanks!

[pichudot]

icic mate....

so for yr model ...

u can get a charger fr limbat to charge...

while the indicator eyelet is juz purely a indicator

charging will involve removing the batt etc...

as wat yr link suggest...?

 

so when yr installation of indicator is done...

mind post a pic here ...?

at least have a rough guideline & idea for mi to choose between eyelet or yr type...lol

Cheers!!!

 

no bro... the charger includes the charging extension but it doesn't have any battery indicator to tell u how is the battery level... the eyelet or the dash board is additional devices which also can charge while telling u the battery level...

 

i guess i'm going to install it perhaps next week or the following... will let you know...

 

 

Hi bro, thanks for the clarification.

 

I got a question though, with the voltmeter measuring the battery when the engine is not on(bike is not charging the battery), isnt that the voltmeter already measuring the life of the battery?

 

Thanks!

 

voltmeter doesn't tell u the life of the battery i suppose... it only tell u how much voltage is presently available as well as charging effect or not... i guess...

[DeusExMachina]

LOL..You know i know...

 

LOL. I know, so I'll just say it out and up front.

 

After riding it for 1.5 years, here's what I think about our good ol' FZ1 Gen 2.

 

- Lazy engine. Not responsive enough

- Sluggish acceleration for a litre bike

- Engine response gets worse once the bike is hot

- Bike struggles to breathe, airbox too constricted.. needs modding

- Crappy rear shock. No compression damping settings

- Rear Shock sags and gets soft real fast

- Slow turn in, slow to steer

- Stock brakes suck, no bite no feel

- Lousy fuel consumption for a non-sportbike

- Mirrors get loose after a while, especially if pushed up or down for parking often

[stwb1981]

Hi bro, thanks for the clarification.

 

I got a question though, with the voltmeter measuring the battery when the engine is not on(bike is not charging the battery), isnt that the voltmeter already measuring the life of the battery?

 

Thanks!

 

 

If engine nt on, yr voltmeter can't work mah...

tat will be multi meter mate....

 

Volt meter tell u the current voltage which is 12v for all batt.... (unless stated)

& show the charging (Retificer & Stator Coil) whetever isit at the optimal rate

 

juz like wat Pichudot said....

Get the pic mate...?

 

Yo Pichudot I get the whole pic abt the charger & indicator stuff...

Thanks alot mate....

[pichudot]

ok i'll get a pic when i install it ok? gime some time...

[y0s_bikey]

ok i'll get a pic when i install it ok? gime some time...

 

interesting stuffs! do give us the review after u tested.

[pichudot]

wow... that one is wad bike ah? looks fierce...

[DaBonz]

to all my muslim bro's and sis's..and to all Fazer club members..

 

Selamat Hari Raya Aidilfitri, Maaf Zahir dan Batin

[y0s_bikey]

yamaha tenere 1200

haha makes me drool...

[pichudot]

r u drooling now?

[Madcow1975]

LOL. I know, so I'll just say it out and up front.

 

After riding it for 1.5 years, here's what I think about our good ol' FZ1 Gen 2.

 

- Lazy engine. Not responsive enough

- Sluggish acceleration for a litre bike

- Engine response gets worse once the bike is hot

- Bike struggles to breathe, airbox too constricted.. needs modding

- Crappy rear shock. No compression damping settings

- Rear Shock sags and gets soft real fast

- Slow turn in, slow to steer

- Stock brakes suck, no bite no feel

- Lousy fuel consumption for a non-sportbike

- Mirrors get loose after a while, especially if pushed up or down for parking often

 

LoL totally agree man! So wats next...

[DeusExMachina]

LoL totally agree man! So wats next...

 

Dunno. But for now, I wanna FIX the problems.

 

- Lazy engine. Not responsive enough

- Sluggish acceleration for a litre bike

- Engine response gets worse once the bike is hot

- Bike struggles to breathe, airbox too constricted.. needs modding

 

Put in a K&N filter, then did a semi-Lars airbox mod.

Cut the lip of the airbox away.

 

Now the bike can actually accelerate somewhat like a 1000cc.

Still not enough though. Airbox is still sucking in hot air from the engine area.

 

I'm gonna try to run a tube through that frame hole (with all the cables) to route some cooler air from the front of the bike in.

 

- Crappy rear shock. No compression damping settings

- Rear Shock sags and gets soft real fast

 

Somebody was selling an Ohlins that day. I saw it a day too late.

Better luck next time. For now, I upped the preload to 5/7.

 

- Slow turn in, slow to steer

 

Already changed to heavier fork oil.Fork dropped by 10mm, compression damping +2, rebound damping +1

Solved the uneven wear problem. Factory fork oil levels were uneven!!

Feels better. But bike still wobbles due to rear shock. Need to fix that.

 

- Stock brakes suck, no bite no feel

 

Anybody has a Brembo RCS for sale?

 

 

- Lousy fuel consumption for a non-sportbike

 

Airbox mod now gives me 230km to reserve, compared to previous 215km.

It's still sad, but at least a bit better. (I'm trying to console myself here. LOL)

 

 

- Mirrors get loose after a while, especially if pushed up or down for parking often

 

Already solved that problem partially with a chisel and hammer. LOL.