LTA said modified car and bike is not safe on the SG Road but WHY never stop MALAYSIA

[736cc]

LTA said modified car and bike is not safe on the SG Road but WHY they are not doing anything to stop MALAYSIA modified bike/car for entering singapore????

 

 

LTA officer always stop singapore reg modified car/bike on the road. Because they said will cause danger to other road user.

 

WHY malaysai reg modified car/bike allow to ride/drive in singapore without getting any fine(they will not cause danger to other road user)????? Malaysia car/bike drive on singapore road or sky?

 

I drove to work everyday from BKE and i can see so many MALAYSIA car/bike with really LOUD modified pipes. Why LTA officer doing nothing about it? Unless LTA tell me only Singapore reg modified car/bike cause danger to other but not malaysia car/bike.

 

This is not fair. Why only Singapore car/bike get fine because of modified?? Singapore never pay road tax? never buy insurance?

 

Can anyone work at LTA share with me, how is this fair and why this is allow?

[rijac]

wrong place. go and ask LTA lah.

[736cc]

wrong place. go and ask LTA lah.

 

why wrong place? forum is not for people like u and me to share thought?

[ulysses_sc]

Because all you will end up with is plenty of *****ing and no real inputs from anyone with real knowledge of the situation.

[rijac]

share thoughts, yes. but you are asking a question - is it not better to go ask LTA who will be the only people who know the answer?

 

no one here will know. if i work for LTA i won't want to answer in a public forum like this and invite criticism. so therefore, wrong place, because you won't get an answer lor.

[rijac]

anyway i think there is some recipocral agreement especially after Singaporeans raised a ruckus about Malaysian Police stopping singapore cars for tinted windows. our tinting laws are different, and while we pass in Singapore, we would fail in Malaysia. so they must have come to an agreement about some of the laws. i'm pretty sure they would stop malaysian cars for other offences, like speeding or running a read light etc.

[736cc]

anyway i think there is some recipocral agreement especially after Singaporeans raised a ruckus about Malaysian Police stopping singapore cars for tinted windows. our tinting laws are different, and while we pass in Singapore, we would fail in Malaysia. so they must have come to an agreement about some of the laws. i'm pretty sure they would stop malaysian cars for other offences, like speeding or running a read light etc.

 

speeding or running a read light is for sure. But base on LTA said on the news, they said modified pipes for car will cause danger to other road user.

So my point is why are they allow malaysia car/bike entering singapore without doing anything? Because they drive to casino that why allow? Or only singapore reg car/bike will cause danger to road user?

[rijac]

modified pipes are illegal due to noise and emissions, not danger.

speeding or running a read light is for sure. But base on LTA said on the news, they said modified pipes for car will cause danger to other road user.

So my point is why are they allow malaysia car/bike entering singapore without doing anything? Because they drive to casino that why allow? Or only singapore reg car/bike will cause danger to road user?

[rijac]

modified pipes are illegal due to noise and emissions, not danger.

speeding or running a read light is for sure. But base on LTA said on the news, they said modified pipes for car will cause danger to other road user.

So my point is why are they allow malaysia car/bike entering singapore without doing anything? Because they drive to casino that why allow? Or only singapore reg car/bike will cause danger to road user?

[736cc]

modified pipes are illegal due to noise and emissions, not danger.

 

But base on what they said is danger. This is what LTA said, not me.

[MR BIKER]

Even if we ask LTA , they will never give you a satisfactory answer. Basically, singapore vehicles follow singapore laws. others, heck care unless there is a complain. the question is when the souped vehicle from Malaysia is involved in accident with a singaporean , why the claiming of insurance is a hell of a problem??

[736cc]

Even if we ask LTA , they will never give you a satisfactory answer. Basically, singapore vehicles follow singapore laws. others, heck care unless there is a complain. the question is when the souped vehicle from Malaysia is involved in accident with a singaporean , why the claiming of insurance is a hell of a problem??

 

That is my point. THIS IS NOT FAIR!

 

another point i will like to bring out is: LTA IS work for us! We pay road tax and ERP to get them to work! I really feel this is unfair singaporean road user.

[rijac]

you are wrong there, sir

 

LTA guidelines state that exhausts must meet emission standards. the point is - there are legal and certified after market pipes out there, so why need to do illegal modifications? see the LTA guidelines below. from LTA, not I say one. no mention of danger, just emissions.

 

http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publish/onemotoring/en/lta_information_guidelines/modifications_and_vehoffences/modification_guide.MainPar.92486.File.tmp/Modifications_LTAapprove.pdf

 

But base on what they said is danger. This is what LTA said, not me.

[rijac]

so to be accurate - LTA does not say you cannot modify your exhaust. you can, but must be authorised. that is fair to me. on the malaysian vehicle thingy - this is subjective because i am sure you would not want to be fined in Malaysia for modifications which are legal in Singapore but illegal in malaysia, right? like the tinting issue.

[736cc]

you are wrong there, sir

 

LTA guidelines state that exhausts must meet emission standards. the point is - there are legal and certified after market pipes out there, so why need to do illegal modifications? see the LTA guidelines below. from LTA, not I say one. no mention of danger, just emissions.

 

http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publish/onemotoring/en/lta_information_guidelines/modifications_and_vehoffences/modification_guide.MainPar.92486.File.tmp/Modifications_LTAapprove.pdf

 

Sir, i understand your point. not just pipes.

 

please refer:

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/fit-to-post-autos/tough-shed-stereotype-modified-vehicles-065122316.html

 

Negative impression

It is why Mok finds it unsurprising that the public has a distorted, negative impression of modified car owners.

There is no denying that there will always be road bullies, hooligans and young drivers eager to impress. But he said the fault should not be put on the car then, as some of these people also drive completely stock cars.

The LTA did respond to one of Mok’s letters on Facebook that it is really not the car, but the behaviour of the driver that must be faulted.

Why then are the penalties imposed on modified cars getting harsher?

“We should be looking out for behaviour, which means that a progressive measure of punishment has to be developed and meted out for drivers who exhibit unsafe driving behaviour," said Mok. "We can even consider forcibly de-registering and scrapping the cars of street racers on the spot. A man with a fork can be dangerous if his intention is to kill. Punish the intention, not the tool.”

Charles Yeo, who has lived Australia for four years and is back in Singapore now, feels that the LTA should allow modifications that come with international certification.

The LTA’s “ridiculous regulations”, as he calls it, has led him to start feeling regret for coming back to Singapore where he is unable to express his passion for cars.

Essentially the real problem that car enthusiasts are trying to put forth is punish the drivers, not the car.

“There's a huge gulf between a person’s perception of their ability and the reality behind the wheel. There are a number of law-breakers happy to take risks on the road, although I don't necessarily think it's only the ones with the modified vehicles making these bad decisions, it's just that by their very nature, these modified vehicles play a more visible role on the road and hence draw more attention,” said David Hardman, team director of Dilango Lamborghini Racing Team who has personally taught over 2,000 performance driving courses around the globe.

[rijac]

anyway, anything to do with gahmen is about them making money. we just have to suck thumb lor.

[736cc]

so to be accurate - LTA does not say you cannot modify your exhaust. you can, but must be authorised. that is fair to me. on the malaysian vehicle thingy - this is subjective because i am sure you would not want to be fined in Malaysia for modifications which are legal in Singapore but illegal in malaysia, right? like the tinting issue.

 

Same, I get fine in malaysia for HID light. So your point?

Fair? authorised? why is lamborghini aftermarket allow? authorized because owner got money? fyi, lamborghini aftermarket is super loud but approve?

Not just exhaust we are talking now.

[736cc]

today I saw lta stopping local bike on pie clementi exit there.

 

then I saw a lot of jb bikes that were loud, with a lot of fancy led. also jb cars with golden or totally can't see through window tint. acceptable for them to drive on our roads, but not acceptable for sinkies to drive on our roads. farked

 

see the quote above! fair my a$$!!

[rijac]

no idea. i would assume it would have to be approved too. they are european made. there are very strict emission standards in europe, so on the emissions, i would be surprised if they don't pass the standards.

[736cc]

no idea. i would assume it would have to be approved too. they are european made. there are very strict emission standards in europe, so on the emissions, i would be surprised if they don't pass the standards.

 

Then what about the db level? so bloody loud! 20x louder than not approve ducati exhaust?

[rijac]

actually, who cares. if you do yours according to the approved list then they won't kachau you. so whats the problem?

[rijac]

as for the noise.. its possible to be below 100db at 2.5k rpm. but i'm not an expert. i find it hard to believe they would not follow the same standards for approval. but as for the foreign bikes and cars, that one i donno lah. like i said, ask LTA.

[wait4me]

why u open so many thread ah bloodbro32 ???

 

 

as someone mention without them we got no jobs leh .

 

 

anyway if we extend our ruling to them , and then they also extend to forigen vehicles cannot have modified exhust . not even legal cetified .

then how ??

 

all lose ?

 

or they give u only apporve malaysia helmet allowed . not even Arai or shoei

[ulysses_sc]

Then what about the db level? so bloody loud! 20x louder than not approve ducati exhaust?

 

Dude, you have been going on and on. Am sure the rest of the bros here already got the point.

 

So, what next now? Do you intend to pursue the matter with LTA, or continue with the rants here?

[manbai]

As the saying goes, "Life is not fair".

 

If you want to mod, carry on. Just bear with the consequences.