Yamaha FJR1300

Teamlm · August 19, 2005

Do allow me to start off with knowing each other better. This column is dedicated to know and identify FJR fellowship names thru bike number, when happen to meet on the same road. (You may opt not to post your bike number if you're not comfortable.)

So as to eliminate, "Oi, what's your name?"

1.) AshenZ (Galaxy BLue) aka BG, AY9999R

2.) Teamlm (Storm Silver) aka Denrick Liew, FZ18S

3.) Glenn (Storm Silver) aka Glenna Cheah, FU7A

4.) FJRider (Galaxy Blue) aka Jason, FY8668T

5.) Rahman (Galaxy Blue)aka Rahman, FG786H

6.) Terry (Techno Jade) aka Terry, FY2997H

7.) Chung ('05 Silver_Blue)

8.) Cheekozer (Galaxy Blue)

9.) Omnislash (Maroon) aka Chua, FW8437

10.) Sonic seed (Silver) aka Elliot, FU6008A

11.) Rebornbiker (Techno Jade) aka Marcus, FX2055G

12.) Vara (Galaxy Blue) aka Tamhid, AF242A

13.) Sper (Storm Silver)

14.) deanz4 (Maroon) aka Dean, FZ4501L

15.) ThongKH (Silver) FV5789

16.) domjames(silver/blue) aka James, FZ3388D

17.) capirexx

18.)

Kindly please add yourself for getting us to know you better.. ride safe!

deanz4 · August 19, 2005

Originally posted by omnislash@Aug 19 2005, 11:44 PM
Thus far, I can only say ABS model dun have and non-ABS has it..

Rectify? Maybe u can try changing the valves and valve guides.. Look through this thread and u can see one of the FJRian toking about it.. Otherwise, look at FJRowners forum.. They tok alot about it...

Do we have to do it? Not really I think.. Its only no tick and got tick.. Performance wise i feel its more or less the same. My FC is about 17km/litre. Better than some of those with no-tick. So i dun think the ticking is affecting the performance very much...

Whatever it is, my mileage is at 46,000km and so far no significant drop in FC or performance.. Just enjoy the bike, dun think too much...

bro maybe one of the ride we meet up and see whether our bike sound the same or not..mine will start the toking sound when it hits the 3000rpm at any gear.. but when ask mong tong he say its normal..

by the way yr fuel consumption is 17/litre??? dats abt 340 on normal tank.. dats alot eh.. u nv go high speed one ah?? u oso dont drag yr gears one huh??? at wat rpm u changed gear mine..

my normal riding will be abt4000 rpm start to shift gear up..

:thumb:

ET · August 19, 2005

Anyone wants stebel magnum horn 2

Price: $18 nett

Installation: $10 at Sanfu motor trading, Shunli industrial Park. Open from 10+ to 7+, mon to sat.

FAQ:Does it fit all bikes?

ANS:If your bike has a 12v batt, no problem

CALL ME/SMS ME at 92389670 zhenhao here. You can pick up your stebel horns on sat(20/08/05)at AMK Ave 3 BLK 424 Carpark which is directly opp the AMK MRT or rather the AMK police station this sat or sun

currently only have 5 sets available...

ReBornBikeR · August 20, 2005

I am itching to replace my OEM horn to this Stebel Magnum horn, any brothers here replaced theirs?

Is this Stebel horn really louder and sounds nicer than the original horn?

sonic_seed · August 20, 2005

the horns are great...sure make those "sleepy" drivers wake up their idea one..haha.. the horn makes your bike horns louder than a car... I use 2 of them haha... very shiok when pressing

omnislash · August 20, 2005

Originally posted by capirexx@Aug 20 2005, 02:52 AM
yeah, mine is FT, i dun frequent west mall anymore, it's toh guan now. r u the owner of the red FJR?

Yep.. Thats me.. Nice container u have at the rear..

omnislash · August 20, 2005

Originally posted by deanz4@Aug 20 2005, 04:20 AM
bro maybe one of the ride we meet up and see whether our bike sound the same or not..mine will start the toking sound when it hits the 3000rpm at any gear.. but when ask mong tong he say its normal..

by the way yr fuel consumption is 17/litre??? dats abt 340 on normal tank.. dats alot eh.. u nv go high speed one ah?? u oso dont drag yr gears one huh??? at wat rpm u changed gear mine..

my normal riding will be abt4000 rpm start to shift gear up..

:thumb:

Singapore rds how to go high speed... Usually 100-110km/hr lor..

I dun really see what RPM i change gear.. But i reckon its below 4K.. Low gear drag to 4K abit heavy... But pick up from junction I'll drag to break off from main traffic...

ReBornBikeR · August 20, 2005

Thanks for your prompt reply Sonic, will get one to scare the sh*t out of those idiot drivers hehehe

Hi, ET can I have a pair please?

omnislash · August 20, 2005

Do allow me to start off with knowing each other better. This column is dedicated to know and identify FJR fellowship names thru bike number, when happen to meet on the same road. (You may opt not to post your bike number if you're not comfortable.)

So as to eliminate, "Oi, what's your name?"

1.) AshenZ (Galaxy BLue) aka BG, AY9999R

2.) Teamlm (Storm Silver) aka Denrick Liew, FZ18S

3.) Glenn (Storm Silver) aka Glenna Cheah, FU7A

4.) FJRider (Galaxy Blue) aka Jason, FY8668T

5.) Rahman (Galaxy Blue)aka Rahman, FG786H

6.) Terry (Techno Jade) aka Terry, FY2997H

7.) Chung ('05 Silver_Blue)

8.) Cheekozer (Galaxy Blue)

9.) Omnislash (Maroon) aka Chua, FW8437

10.) Sonic seed (Silver) aka Elliot, FU6008A

11.) Rebornbiker (Techno Jade) aka Marcus, FX2055G

12.) Vara (Galaxy Blue) aka Tamhid, AF242A

13.) Sper (Storm Silver)

14.) deanz4 (Maroon) aka Dean, FZ4501L

15.) ThongKH (Silver) FV5789

16.) domjames(silver/blue) aka James, FZ3388D

17.) capirexx (blue) FT7004

18.)

Kindly please add yourself for getting us to know you better.. ride safe!

omnislash · August 20, 2005

Originally posted by sonic_seed@Aug 20 2005, 10:12 AM
the horns are great...sure make those "sleepy" drivers wake up their idea one..haha.. the horn makes your bike horns louder than a car... I use 2 of them haha... very shiok when pressing

Hey sonic, where did u mount the horns? From the FJRtech, they need to file off the inner cowl if u were to mount the horns to the original location...

My TDM/GS just bot for me for 15.90.. I was thinking i'll just mount it at the front wheel...

sonic_seed · August 20, 2005

hehe...me VTEC mount on the original area..but for FJR haven go n see le hehe..but have ask from ET one set liao..gona experiment see where to mount..I know the circuitry for replacing the OEM...so can save 10 bucks on the installation at bike shop

scooterer · August 21, 2005

Originally posted by omnislash@Aug 19 2005, 11:44 PM
Thus far, I can only say ABS model dun have and non-ABS has it..

Rectify? Maybe u can try changing the valves and valve guides.. Look through this thread and u can see one of the FJRian toking about it.. Otherwise, look at FJRowners forum.. They tok alot about it...

Do we have to do it? Not really I think.. Its only no tick and got tick.. Performance wise i feel its more or less the same. My FC is about 17km/litre. Better than some of those with no-tick. So i dun think the ticking is affecting the performance very much...

Whatever it is, my mileage is at 46,000km and so far no significant drop in FC or performance.. Just enjoy the bike, dun think too much...

Sorry to say not true about ABS not having it. I've heard plenty of ABS FJRs with it, including my own. My ABS FJR had it at 45,000 km (

To rectify the problem, stand by $4000 or more. 80% of the parts you need, Hong Leong don't stock, so need to import in from USA. The BOLTS alone for the job costs US$100... don't talk about valve and valve guides yet. Remember to get the valves with the dot marking, otherwise the same problem will come back again.

I opened up my FJR engine, looked at the valves, felt them shaking left and right in my fingers, closed up the engine and pushed it into the shop. Ask Ashenz, he's seen my valves. (loss on bike price $3000, open up engine cost $1300, and $1000 un-removable accessories on the bike). To this day I still think it was worth it.

omnislash · August 21, 2005

Originally posted by scooterer@Aug 21 2005, 10:43 AM
Sorry to say not true about ABS not having it. I've heard plenty of ABS FJRs with it, including my own. My ABS FJR had it at 45,000 km (

To rectify the problem, stand by $4000 or more. 80% of the parts you need, Hong Leong don't stock, so need to import in from USA. The BOLTS alone for the job costs US$100... don't talk about valve and valve guides yet. Remember to get the valves with the dot marking, otherwise the same problem will come back again.

I opened up my FJR engine, looked at the valves, felt them shaking left and right in my fingers, closed up the engine and pushed it into the shop. Ask Ashenz, he's seen my valves. (loss on bike price $3000, open up engine cost $1300, and $1000 un-removable accessories on the bike). To this day I still think it was worth it.

I see... Somehow i feel relieve knowing that the ABS version will suffer the same fate as us... Just joking..

Got a few question that need your help..

1) What bolts are u refering to? Cannot use back the old ones? Cuz corrosion or what?

2) How u order the Valves with the Red Dot? Diff part number from the one without the Red Dot?

3) "$1000 un-removable accessories on the bike" U mean u these accerssories were damaged during the rectification? What were they?

4) Where did u do the rectification?

Sorry ah... Very curious to know..

ashenZ · August 22, 2005

Do allow me to start off with knowing each other better. This column is dedicated to know and identify FJR fellowship names thru bike number, when happen to meet on the same road. (You may opt not to post your bike number if you're not comfortable.)

So as to eliminate, "Oi, what's your name?"

1.) AshenZ (Galaxy BLue) aka BG, AY9999R

2.) Teamlm (Storm Silver) aka Denrick Liew, FZ18S

3.) Glenn (Storm Silver) aka Glenna Cheah, FU7A

4.) FJRider (Galaxy Blue) aka Jason, FY8668T

5.) Rahman (Galaxy Blue)aka Rahman, FG786H

6.) Terry (Techno Jade) aka Terry, FY2997H

7.) Chung ('05 Silver_Blue)

8.) Cheekozer (Galaxy Blue)

9.) Omnislash (Maroon) aka Chua, FW8437

10.) Sonic seed (Silver) aka Elliot, FU6008A

11.) Rebornbiker (Techno Jade) aka Marcus, FX2055G

12.) Vara (Galaxy Blue) aka Tamhid, AF242A

13.) Sper (Storm Silver)

14.) deanz4 (Maroon) aka Dean, FZ4501L

15.) ThongKH (Silver) FV5789

16.) domjames(silver/blue) aka James, FZ3388D

17.) Capirexx (blue) aka Danny, FT7004

18.) Vit (Storm Silver) FY1633

19.)

ashenZ · August 22, 2005

Magnum stebel horns are loud~ on the bass side...

Hella horns are more on the Treble side.. more high pitch~

The horns can be fixed on.. but on side will be abit protruding out.. but wun affect steering~

I feel like adding on stebel horns on top of moi hella.... but tink the current draw abit too high...

comics00 · August 22, 2005

Originally posted by scooterer@Aug 21 2005, 10:43 AM
Sorry to say not true about ABS not having it. I've heard plenty of ABS FJRs with it, including my own. My ABS FJR had it at 45,000 km (

To rectify the problem, stand by $4000 or more. 80% of the parts you need, Hong Leong don't stock, so need to import in from USA. The BOLTS alone for the job costs US$100... don't talk about valve and valve guides yet. Remember to get the valves with the dot marking, otherwise the same problem will come back again.

I opened up my FJR engine, looked at the valves, felt them shaking left and right in my fingers, closed up the engine and pushed it into the shop. Ask Ashenz, he's seen my valves. (loss on bike price $3000, open up engine cost $1300, and $1000 un-removable accessories on the bike). To this day I still think it was worth it.

i m going for the 2005 FJR at ~end sep'05. so when do i need to standby the $4000 to reactify the "ticking"? as soon as i hear the sound or at 45,000km? i m now in USA if i want to purchase the kit wat is it called?

thank u

ashenZ · August 22, 2005

Originally posted by comics00@Aug 22 2005, 11:09 AM
i m going for the 2005 FJR at ~end sep'05. so when do i need to standby the $4000 to reactify the "ticking"? as soon as i hear the sound or at 45,000km? i m now in USA if i want to purchase the kit wat is it called?

thank u

dun read too much into it......

itz not everyday dat the probz comez out.... until now... onli heard dat scooterer has it before.... no one else....

Juz enjoy the ride broo~~~ Welcome u to our trips n TCK sessions~!~!

deanz4 · August 22, 2005

Originally posted by ashenZ@Aug 22 2005, 04:41 PM
dun read too much into it......

itz not everyday dat the probz comez out.... until now... onli heard dat scooterer has it before.... no one else....

Juz enjoy the ride broo~~~ Welcome u to our trips n TCK sessions~!~!

bro so how yr ride to genting during the weekend??? now ride in pair oredi huh??hehe

so wat speed u go during the genting ride?

scooterer · August 22, 2005

Originally posted by omnislash@Aug 21 2005, 03:25 PM
I see... Somehow i feel relieve knowing that the ABS version will suffer the same fate as us... Just joking..

Got a few question that need your help..

1) What bolts are u refering to? Cannot use back the old ones? Cuz corrosion or what?

2) How u order the Valves with the Red Dot? Diff part number from the one without the Red Dot?

3) "$1000 un-removable accessories on the bike" U mean u these accerssories were damaged during the rectification? What were they?

4) Where did u do the rectification?

Sorry ah... Very curious to know..

1) FJR uses 10 special angle bolts. They are one-use only. Their threads change when then go into the slot; whenever you open up a FJR engine, all 10 bolts have to change new ones; even if you piu chiu insert the bolts wrongly during installation also gone case, need to get a new one. When I was doing my overhaul I search the whole of Singapore only got THREE... (for fcuk have 3 bolts for something that is a set of 10???). There was also a worldwide shortage of FJR gaskets last year (due to people doing valve stem changes).

2) Yes they are diffent part number and they have a dot stamped on them.

3) For one, HEL brake lines...(keep in mind how many lines ABS machine has... and Vector One charge by the line) install liao how to take out? Also custom imported billet stainless steel fork braces (imported from USA, sibeh chio, ask Ashenz)... old fork cover remove liao, cannot replace... among others stuff...

4) I didn't do the rectification, I just close up the engine and push into the shop and rode out my STX... 3 month wait for parts I thought was not worth it. Its actually a fairly easy replacement job that most top end motorshops like Mah and Loois and other sports bike specialists can do. No modification needed, just replace the relevant parts... read up FJRowners.com , they have a detailed list.

Bottom line is this... FJR is a new bike. Right now, nobody I know has gone past 100,000+ km on it. So who knows? All we know that the valve guides are wearing out... at a scary rate (well I know and my mechanic know... I doubt even HL has opened up an engine for overhaul yet). Everyone knows the final outcome; broken valves = destroyed engine. the vavle stem drops into the cylinder chamber and next thing you know the entire engine needs to be changed (provided you don't crash and die). Will it ever happen? I don't know. maybe they got so much metal on the stem that it will never break. BTW the wearing out is heat related. of my 16 valves, all the exhaust valves were worn down to the point that you can shake them from side to side and hear the exact ticking. only half the intake valves were worn down.

But I do know this also to be true when your bike ticks:

1) Loss of power, and increased heat (compression loss, plus heat is escaping from engine rather than going out the exhaust).

2) Lack of peace of mind.

When I bought the FJR, I had it in mind as a bike I could keep until the end of COE. It was clearly not going to be so, so I traded in for a brand that most all mechanics in SG agree is relaible (plus some ST11 already run 300,000 km)-- Honda.

The one thing that made me change my mind: What is Honda's other major product-- Cars. Their motorcycle VTEC technology is now in cars, so the 2 divisions are sharing info... and Yamaha?--- Pianos... how to share?

scooterer · August 22, 2005

Originally posted by ashenZ@Aug 22 2005, 04:41 PM
dun read too much into it......

itz not everyday dat the probz comez out.... until now... onli heard dat scooterer has it before.... no one else....

Juz enjoy the ride broo~~~ Welcome u to our trips n TCK sessions~!~!

I hear it because I'm trained to hear it. I spent a lot of time listenning to recordings of the FJR tick from the internet, the various kinds of tick, before even opening the engine (which I knew would cost $1000+), I KNEW I had the problem. I was so sure I bet $1000 on it, and unfortunately, my ears were correct. There is the intermittant tick, the continunous tick, etc. Confirm I have heard at least 3 other ABS 03 models tick CLEARLY.Sometime tick sometimes don't tick.. means you will develop a continunous tick down the road.

Please don't give me that BS about only me having it; if HUNDREDS of people on FJRowners.com say they have evidence of it, in the USA people on the YES scheme (Yamaha maintainence scheme) have had the parts changed by Yamaha (valve and valve guides) and don't forget WILDCHILD who volunteered his bike to be sacrificed in order to prove to Yamaha (he sent his bike for dismantling and destructive analysis). But Yamaha refuses to admit the problem. Also, if there was no problem, why was I threated by (name with-held) to keep my mouth shut on this forum? Have you opened up your FJR engine and seen its valves?

You bike is new, I don't expect a tick from it. According to what some say, the new models of FJR Yamaha change the valves and valve guides already, so it may never develop a tick.

ashenZ · August 22, 2005

Originally posted by scooterer@Aug 23 2005, 07:34 AM
The one thing that made me change my mind: What is Honda's other major product-- Cars. Their motorcycle VTEC technology is now in cars, so the 2 divisions are sharing info... and Yamaha?--- Pianos... how to share?

:lol: :lol:

** edited to remove long quote **

ashenZ · August 22, 2005

Originally posted by deanz4@Aug 23 2005, 01:19 AM
bro so how yr ride to genting during the weekend??? now ride in pair oredi huh??hehe

so wat speed u go during the genting ride?

mi arhh.. ride around 140kmph-180kmph....

i din went up genting.... got pillion.. harder to play.. den thoughout the trip raining.... was soaked wet..... nvr bring rain coat...

August 22, 2005

Mr scooter, i very interested to hear more abt the problem, u might wana come down & share during our makan session to discuss. I worried for u if u post too much here, there was this guy there who duno wat happen to him here when he post all this comments & findings on his bike, he disappear & never post in this forum liao.....

very scary

scooterer · August 22, 2005

Originally posted by cheeko@Aug 23 2005, 07:52 AM
Mr scooter, i very interested to hear more abt the problem, u might wana come down & share during our makan session to discuss. I worried for u if u post too much here, there was this guy there who duno wat happen to him here when he post all this comments & findings on his bike, he disappear & never post in this forum liao..... very scary

That was me lah, change name keep quiet, avoid problems lor...

But now heck care lah...

hunkiedave · August 23, 2005

Originally posted by cheeko@Aug 23 2005, 07:52 AM
Mr scooter, i very interested to hear more abt the problem, u might wana come down & share during our makan session to discuss. I worried for u if u post too much here, there was this guy there who duno wat happen to him here when he post all this comments & findings on his bike, he disappear & never post in this forum liao..... very scary

HI , yes that's right as once again there'S NO FRREEDOM of speech here . As he was giving us all the valuable inform abt the 00 - 02 models then some good hearted fellows threaten him i guess.. thus he deleted his post for the old FJRIANS u should know who the kind soul to provide the valuable inform .. SAD TO say i'm no longer an FJRIAN //

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