riding a class 2 bike in sg

[sayhitojason]

Looking at an

 

1) 600-800cc

3) Naked, half faired

3) Comfy for both rider & pillion

4) +- 20km/litre

5) No need luggage

6) Total passenger weight

7) Mainly commuting in SG that can also add a grin

8) OTR plus insurance within 20k. (I'm late 30s)

 

I was thinking Divvy 6 or NC670/750, maybe Vstrom 650, but heard its so overpriced at 24k !, also heard yammy all damn hot these days.

 

I'll go with a Triumph Speed Triple. If price is a concern, get a used one.

 

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[Baal]

Thanks for the feedback mates. Conti is out for me due to personal views. 600cc thumpers sound good, Was looking at the tenere but heard HL dun bring & PI is like 21k !! for a single cylinder bike. The NC got the street/quasi tourer looks but engine spec is like that of a chopper. Hornet still high revving, cant enjoy the engine legally in SG. Gladius...hmm. Was thinking, during 05-08, moto industy lost a lot of cust due to lower coe. So when this batch ( incl myself) finish their cars, they may go back to class 2 bikes. With ecomonies of scale & more demand, Bikes dealers may be more willing to add variety with overall lowered cost. I got the "heaty" impression of the Yammys from the Fazer / XJ6 thread.

[CoolieND]

Triumph = Conti?

[Uncle]

Looking at an

 

1) 600-800cc

3) Naked, half faired

3) Comfy for both rider & pillion

4) +- 20km/litre

5) No need luggage

6) Total passenger weight

7) Mainly commuting in SG that can also add a grin

8) OTR plus insurance within 20k. (I'm late 30s)

 

I was thinking Divvy 6 or NC670/750, maybe Vstrom 650, but heard its so overpriced at 24k !, also heard yammy all damn hot these days.

 

NC700XD fits all your requirements. DCT adds the fun factor for item 7.

[Baal]

I treat KTM, Ducati, Triumph....basically the ang mo bikes as conti. Thus far the NC series seems good. Just that the engine characterisics very car like.

[sayhitojason]

NC700XD fits all your requirements. DCT adds the fun factor for item 7.

 

DCT will be practical for Singapore roads. Divvy 6 is the Diversion 650? It's a comfortable bike but if you're looking for those naked Street bike acceleration, it won't give you that.

 

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[Baal]

Divvy 6 as in the half faired XJ6. Should be noticeably stronger in accl compared to S4? What I heard was 7, bye bye S4

[CoolieND]

I know, I know, I was joking.... kinda. Everyone has their own preferences, no problems with that. Good luck with that Honda!

 

Actually, here's another one which I've seen... the new CTX700N/ND - same engine as the NC700 family. Boon Siew must be looking at bringing those in, no?

Edited October 10, 2013 by CoolieND

[Baal]

The CTX is supposedly a new age cruiser. in the 600-800cc range for cruiser in SG,......somwat like not much business. Maybe when the batch of class 2 riders who bouight cars in 06-08 run out & come back to bikes......there will be a market.

[Sridriwina]

do you dream of going touring or track, at least once in your life?

is there a particular bike model that you dream of riding/owning?

do you dream of living the lifestyle of a class 2 biker?

 

if the answer to the above is all no, then forget it. if at least one 'yes', and you can afford it, continue considering.

 

class 2 bike, especially if used entirely locally, is totally not about practicality; it is purely about passion and dreams, an itch you have to scratch before your life moves on. if you just ask whether its practical, no it is not full-stop.

 

share my own biking life. when i first start riding more than 10 years ago, i dreamed of riding/owning a class 2 sportsbike, of living the life of a class 2 sportsbiker, and wanted to go PG at least once in my life, especially before married and kids. when the CBR600RR was launched in 2003, it became my dream bike.

 

so i did it. totally no regrets, especially since i didn bust my bank account doing it (important!).

 

but during the last two years, especially after married and one kid, and now two kids, the bike slowly felt more and more like a 'waste of effort'. this is NOT 'regret'; this is about my life evolving, and that biking dream, the itchy backside, finally fulfilled and scratched until shiok, until no more.

 

so i sold it off and got a class 2a bike now. and touch heart, practicality-wise, especially with the horrendous prices of class 2 bikes today, a 2a bike is all you need for local riding. i no longer feel itchy about class 2 bikes. they are too much for practical riding in singapore.

 

but the bike was worth it, because it was a dream fulfilled, an item ticked off in my "things to do before i die" list. so think about why exactly you want a class 2 bike.

 

So so true...

[ahch0ng]

i think all the naked or half-faired bikes i can think of miss out one point somewhere on your list.

 

a triumph speed triple or kawa z800 fits everything except 8.

 

NC series fit everything except fun factor in 7.

 

FZ8 or XJ6 you think is hot (i donno true or not).

 

err... hornet 600? Suzuki Gladius? KTM Duke 690? Harley Davidson Sportster?

 

Triumph Street Triple should be just over 20k if you're looking to get it properly covered... but if you don't mind a cheap deal on your insurance premium (like, say, DirectAsia), could even be just under - base model OTR =$18k per pricelist from weekend. Of course, if you find a good used one, can be a couple $k below (and decent-looking headlights!).

 

 

I'll go with a Triumph Speed Triple. If price is a concern, get a used one.

 

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are u guys referring to street triple (675cc) or speed triple (1050cc)?

[Baal]

Think Jason could be saying that he would rather spend 20k on a 2nd hand Speed 3ple rather than brand new Street 3ple?

 

On another thought, wonder why the Bandit 650 just cant seen to take off in SG. Think I have only seen 2 on the road in the last 2 years, but have seen a few XJ6 during the same period.

[kano]

My fren rode fazer 1000 but only ride in SG

You say leh

He scared go malaysia

Scared bike tio stolen

And no kaki touring with him

He not lone ranger

[sayhitojason]

are u guys referring to street triple (675cc) or speed triple (1050cc)?

 

Either one although if it's just for Singapore roads, the 675 is more than sufficient. I mean twist the throttle and by the time you're in 2nd gear, you'll be over the speed limit.

 

For transport around Singapore, the practical bikes are the cubs and scooters.

 

Owning a class 2 just for riding in Singapore is not a practical decision, but more a choice driven by desire. That being the case, I'd say pick a bike within budget that moves you (emotionally).

 

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Edited October 13, 2013 by sayhitojason

[mechwira]

 

For transport around Singapore, the practical bikes are the cubs and scooters.

 

 

personally i think the 2a category is the ideal capacity for local roads.

 

the 'meaty' part of their power goes all the way to expressway cruising speeds and slightly above, and they're proper stable. both of which falls short in the 2b bikes.

[greatmole]

nc700 most ideal bike for sg...... cheaper maintenance, low fuel consumption, low price, generate little heat and cheap(17k+ compared to other class 2 bike).

[teraboi]

My fren rode fazer 1000 but only ride in SG

You say leh

He scared go malaysia

Scared bike tio stolen

And no kaki touring with him

He not lone ranger

 

1000cc in sg not overkill meh?

[sayhitojason]

nc700 most ideal bike for sg...... cheaper maintenance, low fuel consumption, low price, generate little heat and cheap(17k+ compared to other class 2 bike).

 

Maybe that's why I see quite a few NC700 around.

 

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[ahch0ng]

Either one although if it's just for Singapore roads, the 675 is more than sufficient. I mean twist the throttle and by the time you're in 2nd gear, you'll be over the speed limit.

 

For transport around Singapore, the practical bikes are the cubs and scooters.

 

Owning a class 2 just for riding in Singapore is not a practical decision, but more a choice driven by desire. That being the case, I'd say pick a bike within budget that moves you (emotionally).

 

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this is true...but adding to the point...only class 2A and class 2 are sufficient for sg road...2b struggles to overtake in some instances when you are on the expressway

 

personally i think the 2a category is the ideal capacity for local roads.

 

the 'meaty' part of their power goes all the way to expressway cruising speeds and slightly above, and they're proper stable. both of which falls short in the 2b bikes.

 

agree to this!

[Jehuty]

My fren rode fazer 1000 but only ride in SG

You say leh

He scared go malaysia

Scared bike tio stolen

And no kaki touring with him

He not lone ranger

 

Well, people don't get class 2 for economical reasons and certainly not a 1000cc bike. If its just for SG, I'd say it has more to do with glamour, I'm sorry but I see no other logical reason. He just lacks passion if that's his reasons.

 

Touring kakis can find, can make friends what.

Scared kena stolen? That's where touring kakis come in, they'll know where to park and what to do to reduce the chances.

 

But to each his/her own hahaha

[Baal]

agree with Mech on the 2A part. The NC series is practically a bike with a Car engine. Csd the max hp & toque (6300rpm/4800rpm) achieved in the rpm. Its a Fit 1.5 litre chopped in half & then reduce stroke from 89mm to 80mm followed by a 270 degree crank. Yep, class 2 bikes are more of a want rather than need ( less the NC series ).

[dark_angel]

i think cl2 bike is more of a feel shiok and less of practical.

Just for riding ard SG, 2a or 2b, more or less ok as max speed is ard 90+/- 10 here.

Anyway i also thinking of getting cl2 but more and more commitment coming so likely going to push back... hahahah.

[sayhitojason]

Actually, small bikes have their appeal too. Ride slowly, keep to the left, and just enjoy the breeze as you feel the single cylinder pumping in rhythm below you.

 

 

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[teraboi]

Abit off topic, but what then will be a good cc if one decides to go for occassional msia trip? 600cc enough?

[mechwira]

Abit off topic, but what then will be a good cc if one decides to go for occassional msia trip? 600cc enough?

 

depends on your needs. choosing by cc should not be the way. travelling on an NC700 against a GSX-R600 would be very different experience, beyond just 700cc vs 600cc. you also have to think about wat kind of touring style you will do.

 

either based on your own comfort zone, or the general level of a group that you might be travelling with, are you going to cruise at 160kmh? above 200kmh? if you have a group of friends on sportsbikes or sports tourers who will do high speed blast down NSH, you cant possibly be on something like the NC700 coz you'll just get left behind. but if your group is more casual, or you're travelling alone, this won't be an issue.

 

and then how far? if long distance, will you need comfort over performance? luggage requirements? if you plan further than KL or even to thailand, then a sportsbike of watever cc is going to be a challenge.

 

so dun make decision based on cc. once you hit class 2, there's a whole variety of bikes to suit various needs.