coolant

[Guest Royal]

hi people.i;m riding a TZR now and as u all know that TZR doesnt have a temp gauge to see what's the temp of the engine.just wanna ask how do we know whether the engine has overheated?i actually can feel the diff between the performance of the bike on hot and on cool day.riding on cool day is better than riding on hot day.is it because of the coolant and the temp if the engine?

[rastyblade]

Thanks but I think that's for car I'm looking for this one http://217.37.205.213:1027/castrol/ancilla...ain_coolant.htm but can't find

 

Castrol Radicool can be use on Motorcycles ... anyway haben seen tt castrol motorcycle coolant u mention above here in sg yet ... mayb diff country selling different product n packaging !

[MS]

I'm using Engine Ice. Cools down fast, heats up fast. Many times My bike is operating at 100-110degree C in normal road riding whenever I stop or riding slow speed. But its good for track use since it can cool down very fast whenever its on the move with a reasonable speed. Much faster cooling than when I use Castrol Radicool on the move. Aided with wind on the radiator while moving, it could dip my temperature gauge by 10Deg C with one traffic light junction. But it'll build up heat very fast again.

 

I find no point spending $30 per 1.89litre of ENGINE ICE. I'd have gotten something much cheaper and performs just as well.

[Guest mutoo]

hi people.i;m riding a TZR now and as u all know that TZR doesnt have a temp gauge to see what's the temp of the engine.just wanna ask how do we know whether the engine has overheated?i actually can feel the diff between the performance of the bike on hot and on cool day.riding on cool day is better than riding on hot day.is it because of the coolant and the temp if the engine?

 

i personaly feel that riding at warm temp(not hot) feel better then cool leh...

maybe different bike so have different feeling..

but last time when i rdie kips.. i still feel the same as it will be more smooth while it warm then it cool...

when at night i always leave my bike on for a while to let it warm.. coz it feel smoother when riding...

i use the word warm not hot.. if hot.. the power delevery seems like abit delay ....

[Guest Royal]

why is it like that ah?for me riding on cool wheather is better...why is it like that?

[Guest mutoo]

maybe different bike got differnt feeling lor..

even different person will effect the result too mah...

but u meant cold weather u feel better or cold engine?

what i saying is the engine not the weather..

[Jenova]

yo bros.... is it eas yto do flushing ourselve? if so.... how to do it n where to buy the stuff?

[S750WP]

Saw this brand 'Total' coolant, 4 litres selling for $9 at Carrefour. Is it ok to use on bikes and what are the harmful ingredient to look out for??

[rastyblade]

here's another write-out abt coolant ...

 

 

 

The Importance of Coolant Replacement

 

Had the coolant changed in your motorcycle lately?

 

Coolant in many motorcycles is horribly neglected. Various studies have concluded that about a third of all vehicles have coolant that needs attention. This attention being either coolant addition or coolant replacement.

 

If the coolant level is low, it's easy enough to fix. Just top it off and go, right? Not necessarily.

 

Even if the coolant is still electric green and appears as if it is new, it could be devoid of the corrosion-fighting additives that are most important to the health of your cooling system.

 

The rate of cooling system corrosion is determined by a single factor: the acidity of the coolant. If the coolant remains alkaline, corrosion is inhibited. But if it breaks down and becomes acidic, the coolant begins to eat away at the interior of the cooling system. The long-term effects of old, acidic coolant in the cooling system can be detrimental to a motorcycle's overall condition. How? Coolant neglect causes corroded and mineral clogged radiators, eroded aluminum cylinder heads, eroded water pumps, seals, and housings, rotted radiator hoses, blown head gaskets and chronic overheating. Sounds expensive, doesn't it?

 

Another problem with coolant, which is not detectable just by looking at it, is the concentration of antifreeze to water within the mixture. Often the amount of antifreeze within the cooling system is much greater than the 50/50 antifreeze-water mix that is recommended by motorcycle manufacturers. This problem usually occurs when a low radiator or coolant reservoir is just "topped off".

 

Having too much antifreeze in the cooling system actually robs your motorcycle horsepower in two ways. How? Antifreeze's viscosity (a liquid's thickness) is much greater than water's. Meaning, if there is too much antifreeze in the system, then the water pump has to work harder in order to push the same amount of fluid. If the water pump is working harder, the engine is working harder and less efficiently. And for many of us, any significant decrease in crank horsepower is just unacceptable. Too much antifreeze in the cooling system also does not transfer heat as efficiently as a proper mixture. Consequently, higher running temperatures are a result. Definitely not a good thing!

 

Changing the coolant doesn't just mean draining the radiator and refilling it either. Doing just those two things may leave a substantial amount of the old, acidic coolant, which is also contaminated with minerals and impurities, within the engine and the cooling system components. A complete coolant change entails draining the radiator, back-flushing the entire system, then adding a correctly balanced 50/50 mixture of fresh distilled (or de-ionized) water and fresh antifreeze, and pressure testing the cooling system.

[S750WP]

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/viewto...opic.php?t=4849

 

read and digest, the aswer lies in there

 

 

Thanks, I will check and see if the 'Total' brand of coolant contain silicate, if not should safe to use right?

[S750WP]

 

seriously, u can consider Engine Ice if u wanna....

 

My bike req 2.7L in the main plus 300ml coolant in the reserve, its a heavy sum of $$ with EI.

 

Currently I'm using the Putoline coolant, $5/L, from LAB, works fine on my bike, wan to try if Total is the next cheaper alternative.

[Guest ZZR-Pilot]

yo bros.... is it eas yto do flushing ourselve? if so.... how to do it n where to buy the stuff?

 

Dead easy on my car. But slightly more hassle on my bike, coz need to remove my fuel tank to get to the radiator cap.

[Guest Jade]

A few questions:

 

1) Change coolant must flush it first?

 

2) How often do we have to change coolant?

 

3) How do we know it's time to change then?

 

[S750WP]

Its better to flush the radiator to get rid of all the scale when changing coolant.

 

Change it every 2 years as recommended by my service manaul, but if you kia Su/Si, change it yearly.

 

When the bike always overheat then its time to flush your radiator, and change the coolant.

 

Also its recommended to change the radiator hose every 4 years as recommded in the service manual. Or you wait till it leaks then change.

[Tashi]

On my FireBlade, when I'm stationary under hot sun, it maxes to 102 celcius During riding, the temperature ranges from 80+ to 90+ celcius, never below. I'll be happy to get between 50-80.

 

This could be due to the climate here. What are the temperature readings on you guys' bikes? Care to share?

 

Bike Model:

Stationary Temperature Range:

Riding Temperature Range:

[pufferfis]

Its better to flush the radiator to get rid of all the scale when changing coolant.

 

Change it every 2 years as recommended by my service manaul, but if you kia Su/Si, change it yearly.

 

When the bike always overheat then its time to flush your radiator, and change the coolant.

 

Also its recommended to change the radiator hose every 4 years as recommded in the service manual. Or you wait till it leaks then change.

 

wat do u flush ur radiator with?...do u pour the product in ..then later drain it out?..any recommendations wat to flush e radiator w?

[Tashi]

Thank you for your query.

 

The coolant (SuperCool) that we sell at our service stations is not

silicate free (it's has low silicate content). The majority of the

vehicles in Singapore is still able to use this coolant. It will

not cause premature wear of water pump seals or radiator passages blockage.

The advantage of using silicate free coolant (also known as Organic acid

coolant) is that it offers longer drain interval advantage. We have such

a product in Europe but has yet to bring into S'pore due to lack of demand.

 

Please feel free to contact us for any further clarification.

 

With Best Regards

Jimmy Tan P H

Technical Services Manager, Singapore

Tel : +(65) 6263 2032 Mobile : +(65) 9782 0171

Fax : +(65) 6263 2049

e-mail : [email protected]

[Tashi]

Hmmm, I don't think I'm taking any chances with my bike. Anyone here can recommend a high quality ethylene glycol based coolant that is silicate free?

[djugashvili]

how do I know when I should replace/top up my coolant?

[standlee]

hi people.i;m riding a TZR now and as u all know that TZR doesnt have a temp gauge to see what's the temp of the engine.just wanna ask how do we know whether the engine has overheated?i actually can feel the diff between the performance of the bike on hot and on cool day.riding on cool day is better than riding on hot day.is it because of the coolant and the temp if the engine?

 

can try fix temp gauge for ur bike... me oso finding one...

[standlee]

how do I know when I should replace/top up my coolant?

 

i think need to check coolant level every now & then...

[standlee]

 

Engine Ice.

pricey though

 

any cheap suggestions for flushing radiator??

[standlee]

 

anytime you're changing (or taking out for whatever reason) your coolant, flush the system with a simple 50/50 dilution of Water and WHITE DISTILLED VINEGAR (available at your local grocery store). Fill the system with the solution, start the motor, allow it to get warm, then cool the motor and drain. The vinegar solution is acidic enough to remove and deposits inside your engine and well as "scrub off" and residue from your old coolant product...but it isn't harmful to your delicate seals and gaskets like an automotive radiator flush would be....BTW - After you flush with the solution, remember to run some clear water through to get the vinegar out.

 

it cannot get any cheaper

 

huh??? tat's sounds very cheap!!! thks a lot mate, y definitely try it out...

[Rider32]

Where can i purchase the Engine Ice?

[GT4Sky]

I wish to change the coolant and flush the radiator. I have read the whole topic on this, but maybe i'm too slow . I can't unthestand how to do is. Can any kind one to reply me a step by step for change coolant and flushing of the radiator??? Pls say a few coolant that is good and which is good to flush the radiator too. Thank you very much....