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[HONG]

[mechwira]

Originally posted by HONG@Aug 23 2005, 10:10 PM

wow... dunno if can borrow some of the mags from u.. especially those with reviews and info abt my bike.. u shld noe la.. every rider will like to noe more abt his/her ride...

ok, first off let me clarify that when i say FS, i mean the bike in my pic and the webbie u posted, and when i say F4i, i mean the bike u riding.

 

as for my mags, sorry but i cant find a single review of the F4i perhaps due to honda uk discontinuing the bike some time ago. UK are sportsbike fanatics the same way US are cruiser fanatics and when the FS was introduced in UK, it rampantly outsold the F4i, so mebbe it prompted honda uk to discontinue. the mag does have one or two reviews of the FS in second hand bikes shootouts as i mentioned, and this month's issue in fact has a review of second hand 600cc sportsbikes including the FS. u can check out http://www.fastbikesmag.com/issue.htm for details of their latest issue, though i myself haven bought it yet.

 

if i'm not wrong, ur F4i is the direct decendent of the very first CBR600 made by honda in the 80's. the FS was borne from a need for a sportier/racier supersports to rival competition, sparked first by the r6 in the late 90's. despite how u feel bout cbrf4i vs r6, back in late 90's the cbr600f4i wasn gonna win the sales race with the r6. not to mention world supersports races.

 

so honda made the FS wif the same engine, tuned it up and sold it alongside the f4i as an alternative option, and so that they (and owners) could go racing. it was by far more popular than the f4i and thus it gave birth to the rr, a completely new bike and a 'real racer' as opposed to 'alternative racier option'. so i suppose the FS was a 'lost generation' bike, a transition more than anything. can see some FS locally btw.

 

motorcycle history . i'm such an avid reader of bikes that i've read the history of bikes from the birth of jap dominance in the form of the CB400 in the 70's (before the onslaught of the japs the history just too ), too bad my riding/racing credentials dun match my reading credentials

[Speedpass]

Originally posted by BuZZBeaM@Aug 23 2005, 10:33 PM

Agree!! i myself rode a sport version b4

dun like e idea of e main stand hehe

but when lookin from e front... its e same leh CHIO

Its possible to change e whole subframe from F4I to F4sports

Ya , but i think the best f4i edition is the Nastro Azzuro paint scheme .

[HONG]

Originally posted by Speedpass@Aug 23 2005, 10:40 PM

Ya , but i think the best f4i edition is the Nastro Azzuro paint scheme .

ya.. i agreed with u oso.. saw 1 at K&T 2 weeks ago... mileage still 5k km onli... showroon condition with Akra exhaust, carbon fibre hugger, aftermarket rear sets... etc etc....cos its own by an uncle whu is a rossi fan... the boss oso told me that uncle is buying the R6 rossi edition oso...

[BuZZBeaM]

Originally posted by mechwira@Aug 23 2005, 10:38 PM

as for my mags, sorry but i cant find a single review of the F4i perhaps due to honda uk discontinuing the bike some time ago. UK are sportsbike fanatics the same way US are cruiser fanatics and when the FS was introduced in UK, it rampantly outsold the F4i, so mebbe it prompted honda uk to discontinue. the mag does have one or two reviews of the FS in second hand bikes shootouts as i mentioned, and this month's issue in fact has a review of second hand 600cc sportsbikes including the FS. u can check out http://www.fastbikesmag.com/issue.htm for details of their latest issue, though i myself haven bought it yet.

 

if i'm not wrong, ur F4i is the direct decendent of the very first CBR600 made by honda in the 80's. the FS was borne from a need for a sportier/racier supersports to rival competition, sparked first by the r6 in the late 90's. despite how u feel bout cbrf4i vs r6, back in late 90's the cbr600f4i wasn gonna win the sales race with the r6. not to mention world supersports races.

 

so honda made the FS wif the same engine, tuned it up and sold it alongside the f4i as an alternative option, and so that they (and owners) could go racing. it was by far more popular than the f4i and thus it gave birth to the rr, a completely new bike and a 'real racer' as opposed to 'alternative racier option'. so i suppose the FS was a 'lost generation' bike, a transition more than anything. can see some FS locally btw.

by e way, do u have Aug04 issue ?

they have tis article "USED SPORTSBIKE OF THE YEAR 2004"

Interesting review there..

 

"add an oval can and rear-sets and you've got yourself A GIXER KILLER"

[Shark]

Interesting facts there guys... But generally, I can summarize that different selections of bikes would differ for different people. To each his own, they say... Heh.. But of cos given a choice, i stated earlier that I'd take an R6 anytime cos I'm more used to the throttle-play even tho reviews says it sucks. The 6RR would be slower to pick up in Singapore where traffic light is aplenty. Have not tried personally handling the Suzuky6 but heard from most riders it's very very good.

[mechwira]

Originally posted by BuZZBeaM@Aug 23 2005, 11:02 PM

by e way, do u have Aug04 issue ?

they have tis article "USED SPORTSBIKE OF THE YEAR 2004"

Interesting review there..

 

"add an oval can and rear-sets and you've got yourself A GIXER KILLER"

yeah haha! thats the article i got the FS power/torque figures from!

 

but i guess that was from the days when huge gains could be made from mods. today's bikes, the manufacturers stepping over each other to produce the most powerful/torquey/handling bikes that they've practically done the tuning for us. exhaust kits and PC's could certainly make our bikes more powerful, but the gains are small comparatively eh?

 

haha funny how i make it sound like decades ago. it was only 5-7 years ago that the sportsbike revolution first began. hasn stopped since. i'm eagerly awaiting the unveiling of the 06 model 600cc supersports. i'm expecting a gsx-r1k5 looking gsx-r6 and underseat piped r6. and who knows wat awaits us in '07.....

[mechwira]

Originally posted by Shark@Aug 23 2005, 11:13 PM

Interesting facts there guys... But generally, I can summarize that different selections of bikes would differ for different people. To each his own, they say... Heh.. But of cos given a choice, i stated earlier that I'd take an R6 anytime cos I'm more used to the throttle-play even tho reviews says it sucks. The 6RR would be slower to pick up in Singapore where traffic light is aplenty. Have not tried personally handling the Suzuky6 but heard from most riders it's very very good.

if its pick-up ur looking for i think the ZX-6R is the way to go. yesterday saw for the first time the 05 ZX-6R, at a carpark in CCK when i went to pay for parking. that bike looked huge beside my CBR600RR. the weird thing is, beside a gsx-r1k5, i tot my bike looked huge. bikes getting smaller and can fit us asians better

 

and btw last nite passed by another black/silver 05 CBR600RR exactly like mine in front of beauty world opp al-azhar/al-ameen. donno if one of the black/silver 05 CBR600RR listed in this thread. wah getting more common, from 03 to the time i bought my bike, can hardly spot any CBR600RR on the roads.

[BuZZBeaM]

Originally posted by Shark@Aug 23 2005, 11:13 PM

The 6RR would be slower to pick up in Singapore where traffic light is aplenty. Have not tried personally handling the Suzuky6 but heard from most riders it's very very good.

for ur info.. RR is using 16F 42R sprockets[stock], 03 R6 is using 16F48R [stock] !!!!! [hence pickup faster]

the rear sprockets very big hor!! hmm wonder why they wanna use 48 teeth on e rear

[BuZZBeaM]

Originally posted by mechwira@Aug 23 2005, 11:26 PM

and btw last nite passed by another black/silver 05 CBR600RR exactly like mine in front of beauty world opp al-azhar/al-ameen. donno if one of the black/silver 05 CBR600RR listed in this thread. wah getting more common, from 03 to the time i bought my bike, can hardly spot any CBR600RR on the roads.

u live in CCK ??

 

actually if u wanna compare 600RR to other bikes, its still at 3rd place

1st Gsx

2nd R6

3rd RR

4th Ninja ( think e insurance kills )

 

i seldom see RR on e road too

i see more of 05 RR than 03/04RR in SG road

Where in NSH, its e other way round hehe

[BuZZBeaM]

Originally posted by HONG@Aug 23 2005, 10:11 PM

ohh.. now i get it... diff country gave diff name... ?

Eh give u some examples

 

Singapore hornet900

USA 919

UK CB 900 Hornet

 

Singapore VFR800

USA Interceptor

UK VFR800

[mechwira]

Originally posted by BuZZBeaM@Aug 23 2005, 11:59 PM

u live in CCK ??

 

actually if u wanna compare 600RR to other bikes, its still at 3rd place

1st Gsx

2nd R6

3rd RR

4th Ninja ( think e insurance kills )

 

i seldom see RR on e road too

i see more of 05 RR than 03/04RR in SG road

Where in NSH, its e other way round hehe

i live bt panjang; the season parking is at the cck office.

 

ur ranking is wat ah? most common izzit?

 

yeah the ninja without a doubt the rarest, but i tot i see r6 more frequently than gsx-r6.

[BuZZBeaM]

Originally posted by mechwira@Aug 24 2005, 12:07 AM

i live bt panjang; the season parking is at the cck office.

 

ur ranking is wat ah? most common izzit?

 

yeah the ninja without a doubt the rarest, but i tot i see r6 more frequently than gsx-r6.

Oh near me

ya , was based on common

Erm was based on 03 models n above hehe

R6 been ard since 00/01

seen alot of k4 600 after it been release

tat why i place it 1st

[mechwira]

Originally posted by BuZZBeaM@Aug 24 2005, 12:05 AM

Eh give u some examples

 

Singapore hornet900

USA 919

UK CB 900 Hornet

 

Singapore VFR800

USA Interceptor

UK VFR800

i believe in general the honda's in singapore follow UK/Euro designations and colour schemes, except where there is no UK/Euro model like the F4i. i actually had my heart set on the all-black 05 color scheme of US

[Sesshou]

Originally posted by BuZZBeaM@Aug 23 2005, 11:53 PM

for ur info.. RR is using 16F 42R sprockets[stock], 03 R6 is using 16F48R [stock] !!!!! [hence pickup faster]

the rear sprockets very big hor!! hmm wonder why they wanna use 48 teeth on e rear

RR pickup sure is slow ....thinking of changing the rear spocket to 45 ? any comment:confused:

[Sesshou]

you guys want to meet up for coffee someday

[BuZZBeaM]

Originally posted by mechwira@Aug 24 2005, 12:11 AM

i believe in general the honda's in singapore follow UK/Euro designations and colour schemes, except where there is no UK/Euro model like the F4i. i actually had my heart set on the all-black 05 color scheme of US

Euro design better ma..

like 05 zx6r, flush signal lite whereas US model dun have flush signal lite

but i do see US/canadian model coming in like TL/Haya, US/canadian have reflector on their fork n side of e tailboard..

 

u mean tis ?

http://powersports.honda.com/images/model/c028_029_030_031_photos_all/motorcycles/2005/CBR600RR/Medium/CBR600RR_medium_01.jpg

CHIO !! mine is e 04 Euro model BLack

[BuZZBeaM]

Originally posted by Hikaru@Aug 24 2005, 12:22 AM

RR pickup sure is slow ....thinking of changing the rear spocket to 45 ? any comment:confused:

i will do tat for my next sprockets n chain replacement...

ideal case 15F 45 R 520 chain (light), bike can "fly"

but speedo will miss read.. will stick to 16F 45R 525chain

used to up my rear sprockets size for my 400, pickup sure is faster

[ashyamahar6]

Originally posted by mechwira@Aug 23 2005, 09:03 PM

izzit? but apparently in europe they only started with 05 model according to the mag; they even made it a point to remind 03 owners to raise the front mudguard before changing to 120/70 coz the stock mudguard scraped the center thread off the 120/70 tyres when they installed it. the 04 model apparently came with front mudguard that could accommodate the higher prflie tyre, and only the 05 model did yamaha uk fix 120/70.

Mech is correct, 03 and 04 comes stock with 120/60 profiles, only the 05s feature the higher profile 120/70s.

 

03s when changed to 120/70s especially under aggressive riding, the tyres heat up, expands and the tyres tend to kiss the front mudguard. This was feedbacked, the mudguards for 04s were rectified to accomodate 120/70 tyre change. Upon changing to higher profile, to keep the same centre of gravity, it was recommended to lower the front forks.

 

CBR bros, ur bikes look trick

 

 

 

[superbike]

Originally posted by Kanariya@Aug 23 2005, 03:29 PM

does anyone here has the bike specs n information on this bike? keen to get this bike but would like to compare it wif R6.. any opinions?

Hi bro.

 

I think this Parts Catalog will help you.

This is only parts and parts number.

From head to toe.

 

I can sell it to you in a CD.

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Re: I'll get back to you after my sepang trip

[BuZZBeaM]

Originally posted by ashyamahar6@Aug 24 2005, 01:16 AM

Mech is correct, 03 and 04 comes stock with 120/60 profiles, only the 05s feature the higher profile 120/70s.

just check on e spec on 03 r6 .. i was wrong

Hmm will check with my fren tml, if he's using 120/70, its gonna be dangerous~

[superbike]

Originally posted by Kanariya@Aug 23 2005, 03:29 PM

does anyone here has the bike specs n information on this bike? keen to get this bike but would like to compare it wif R6.. any opinions?

Hi bro.

 

If you are hands-on kaki.

I also got this manual plus troubleshooting.

I contain DIY and PGM self diagnosis plus MIL code index

 

 

It wiil cost a bomb leh.

But if you are keen worth buying.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

RE: Also must wait till I come back leh.

:sorry:

[sportb1ke]

Originally posted by mechwira@Aug 24 2005, 12:11 AM

i believe in general the honda's in singapore follow UK/Euro designations and colour schemes, except where there is no UK/Euro model like the F4i. i actually had my heart set on the all-black 05 color scheme of US

hmmmm bro, i tot mah is selling full black (jp) model?

they offer better price than my current one but i still prefer the black/silver, thats y i didnt get from mah...

[sportb1ke]

Originally posted by superbike@Aug 24 2005, 01:29 AM

Hi bro.

 

If you are hands-on kaki.

I also got this manual plus troubleshooting.

I contain DIY and PGM self diagnosis plus MIL code index

 

 

It wiil cost a bomb leh.

But if you are keen worth buying.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

RE: Also must wait till I come back leh.

:sorry:

for which yr? 03/04/05?

 

i got the 03 one.... more than 500 pages...

looking for 05 one...anyone downloaded?

[mechwira]

Originally posted by BuZZBeaM@Aug 24 2005, 12:26 AM

Euro design better ma..

like 05 zx6r, flush signal lite whereas US model dun have flush signal lite

but i do see US/canadian model coming in like TL/Haya, US/canadian have reflector on their fork n side of e tailboard..

 

u mean tis ?

http://powersports.honda.com/images/model/c028_029_030_031_photos_all/motorcycles/2005/CBR600RR/Medium/CBR600RR_medium_01.jpg

CHIO !! mine is e 04 Euro model BLack

yah!!!!!! thats the one i had my heart set on when i decided i wanted to buy CBR600RR!!!!!!

 

that was before i found out we onli carry the euro colours . and the 05 euro colours were..... ermm..... not fantastic as US colours.......