[Group] SBF Honda Wave-I

[NoLogicOne]

Originally posted by ewanktm@Jul 9 2005, 12:59 PM

hi! as far as i know, the wave S are running on carburetor. dunno bout the Wave S 05 thailand made like what you describe. neways, if you wanna knoe whether your bike is Fuel injected or not, the should be the PGM-FI written on the frame and the FI blinker/signal on the speedo when the ignition is switch on for fuel injected waves.

as for the problem, you can know by revving full throttle on neutral gear. if engine feels like dying or no power when you full open throttle, means there's the power cut thing we are talking about....

neways...cheers and good luck..

Solved your problem yet??? I cannot imagine the days riding with that "powercut".......

[ewanSpec3]

Originally posted by NoLogicOne@Jul 13 2005, 01:21 AM

Solved your problem yet??? I cannot imagine the days riding with that "powercut".......

hey! bro, nice bike there....

nope, getting used to the powercut thing.....

[Wave s2i]

My Wave S also have the power cut problem. It is power cut because recently my bike get worst. after the power cut I need to stop at the road side for 2 minutes before the spark plug "fire" resume. I changed CDI( from Ah Boy $68) before but no help.

 

I am changing to Wave i next week. The Wave i I am getting is with a "10 th Anniversary " logo, Is this the 1st batch Wave i ?

 

Thank you for your inputs...

[NoLogicOne]

Originally posted by Wave s2i@Sep 11 2005, 01:58 AM

I am changing to Wave i next week. The Wave i I am getting is with a "10 th Anniversary " logo, Is this the 1st batch Wave i ?

 

Wave S with power cut problem??? Unheard of as it's a carb bike....the powercut we encounter on the Wave i is due to the EFI electronics.

 

I dunno if your Wave is 1st batch or not, but is it a new Wave i??? If so, no worries. Mine is the 1st batch Wave i and there's no "10th Anniversary" emblem on it anywhere.

 

Read the first pg of this thread and there's a rough guide to estimate if the Wave belongs to the 1st batch by looking at the plate no.....mine definately fall within the "1st batch criteria" as mine only double digits.

[Wave s2i]

Originally posted by NoLogicOne@Sep 11 2005, 05:19 AM

Wave S with power cut problem??? Unheard of as it's a carb bike....the powercut we encounter on the Wave i is due to the EFI electronics.

...... removed by Wave s2i.

Thanks NoLogicOne,

The new waive-i I am getting is a new bike, hope that every things is ok.

Bacuase every month I need to use this bike go to Segamat ~250km to and flo.

 

Suspect the Wave S is also with some kind of speed limit control, I saw a pair of wire connected to the caburater....

 

We keep updating on this site, my new bike performance.

[Wave s2i]

Received my new Wave-i for one week. Good! smooth and no problem so far. Still in run-in condition traveller at 80km/hrs max. Will test run at 110km/hrs when the bike reach 2000km.

 

Any tips to take care of a new wave-i ? Please advise and Thank you.

[NoLogicOne]

Originally posted by Wave s2i@Sep 23 2005, 06:45 PM

Received my new Wave-i for one week. Good! smooth and no problem so far. Still in run-in condition traveller at 80km/hrs max. Will test run at 110km/hrs when the bike reach 2000km.

 

Any tips to take care of a new wave-i ? Please advise and Thank you.

Actually, I dun really take much care of my Wave I one.... Just make sure got petrol, tyres got flower, brake pad still thick, tyres got enuff pressure, and go.....Try not to ride top for the whole journey....some bros here said it's not good. Anyways, you still running in, so no prob. I change semi syn eng oil every 3K.

 

[AspMonK]

yeah that e basic care for a cub...

[Wave s2i]

Thank you so much for both of your reply.

I have run in for 450km now, so far so good. Already changed oil at 400km.

Now change to Honda SEA 40 engine oil (S$5.00, get from Lim Ah Boy) after 2000km will change to ESSOS semi-syn.

[silversurfer2012]

All should apply to Wave-S too except for Dimemsions and PGM-FI

 

 

 

DIMENSIONS

Overall Length = 1,881 mm

Overall width = 706 mm

Overall Height = 7.082 mm

Ground Clearance = 130 mm

 

WEIGHT

Dry Weight = 97.0 kg (kick starter;NF125C）

・・・・・・・・・ =　99.0 kg (Electric starter;NF125MC）

 

CAPACITIES

Engine oil (after draining) = 0.7 Liter

(after disassembly) = 0.9 Liter

Fuel tank = 4.0 Liter

Fuel Type = Unlead Gasoline Octain 91 Up

 

ENGINE

System = 4 Stroke, OHC, Air Cooled

Dispense Fuel Type = Fuel Injection PGM-FI, Computer Control

Bore and stroke = 52.4 x 57.9 mm

Compression ratio = 9.3 : 1

Displacement = 124.8 cm3

Spark plug = Standard = CPR6EA -9 (NGK) or U20EPR9 (DENSO)

・・・・・・・・・ = For extended = CPR7EA -9 (NGK) or U22EPR9 (DENSO)

Spark plug gap = 0.8 - 0.9 mm

Idle speed = 1,400±100rpm

 

 

CHASIS AND SUSPENSION

Caster = 26.3 degree

Trail = 68 mm

Trye size, Front = 60/100 - 17M/C 33P

Trye size, Rear = 70/90 - 17M/C 43P

 

POWER TRANSMISSION

System = Rotary 4 Speed

Primary reduction = 3.350

Gear ratio, 1st = 2.500

2nd = 1.550

3rd = 1.150

4th = 0.923

Final reduction = 2.428

 

BRAKE

Front = Disc Brake Dual Piston Caliper

Rear = Drum Brake

 

ELECTRICAL

Battery = Dry Battery 12V - 2.5AH (kick starter;NF125C）

・・・・・・・= Dry Battery 12V - 3.5AH (Electric starter;NF125MC）

Generator = 0.150 kW/ 5,000 rpm

Ignition = CDI

 

LIGHTS

Headlight = 12V - 18 / 18W x 2

Tail / brake light = 12V - 18 / 5W

Turn signal light: Front = 12V 10W x 2

Rear = 12V 10W x 2

 

Speedmeter light = LED

Neutral indicator = LED

Turn signal indicator = LED x 2

Gear position indicator = LED

High beam indicator = LED

PGM-FI indicator = LED

 

FUSE

Main fuse = 15A

Other fuse = 10A

 

 

 

"Notice that engine oil after draining should be only 0.7l"???

 

All info is taken from a Japanese website.

[silversurfer2012]

anyone knows the actual amount of engine oil to put in?

[terror]

theortically 0.7L, but for convenience, many put 1L.

 

anyone knows the horsepower for wave?

[silversurfer2012]

I just look at my manual again, its true!!!

 

0.7L when u change engine oil

0.9L when you overhaul engine and there is completely no engine oil inside.

 

Personally i feel 0.7L given in the manual should already be a conservative amount already.

 

Wave puts out about 6.8kw which is about 9+ HP. IMHO this is in restricted form.

[rocka]

it swallows 1L easily. I normally put 1L every EO change. same goes for Wave-r and s too. Carb more power, I'd say. Injection has more fuel efficiency.

 

And to say the truth, there are not much mechanics who are really familiar with the mechanism and they will blindly change or ask u to pay them to change the whole oil pump assembly in case anything happens, and blame on the Injection system. Thus, Wave-i nowadays hold less resale value than other waves.

 

But there are ways to fix the injection problem of course. I kinda solve mine just few days back. And confirmed today, there's a solution. Nice to fly at 100km/h and it's only in Running-in stage. Not yet power up yet.

[ferrex]

how much is one?

[rocka]

one for 48. side effect. fuel consumption slightly high. part is said to be japan thou.

[arsonist]

what is the thing for 48 bucks?

im also buying a wave i soon

kinda interested

rocka who else here got wave i?

and where do u normally service urs?

i getting mine on thurs or fri so still quite raw on knowledge..still learning...

[silversurfer2012]

Just changed ur engine oil and sparkplug every 2 months and you are good to go.

[rocka]

i dunno, i think wave-s is a better option. my bike is not defect free and my pshycopath mechanic keeps swearing at it. i change my EO and sparkplug every month also same. well, next month parting with it for a bigger tank... cheaper petrol is te way to go...

[RxzDelux]

Originally posted by rocka@Nov 16 2005, 11:29 PM

i dunno, i think wave-s is a better option. my bike is not defect free and my pshycopath mechanic keeps swearing at it. i change my EO and sparkplug every month also same. well, next month parting with it for a bigger tank... cheaper petrol is te way to go...

Parting with it for a bigger tank? U changing bike is it?

[Razgriz]

wave-i nt dat good...

 

u mus think many things.. if brkdwn.. reali ma fan.. any prob regarding engine.. u mus send to honda.. or @ least some1 wif computer to config ur bike.. like mine... nw the tuning run off liao.. turn throttle.. not much power.. but i no time/money go sanfu fix..

 

if u got a wave-s or wave-R although fuel consumption is nt as gd as wave-i.. @ least.. anything wrong.. u can get it to malaysia to fix.. cheap n economy..

 

jus my 20cent worth of advise =X

[rocka]

yea rxzdelux bro. gotta change bike to something with clutch la. cos no practise for some time, my left fingers hurt and pain like hell when i have to hang on to clutch for like 1.5 hrs during my last 2a lesson. even gears are forgotten. too used to the fact that waves got the back pedal for changing pedals. haha...

[arsonist]

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Hi all ... was wondering who rides wave i here?

mebe we can meet up and share tips on our bikes etc..

thanks in advance

i just got my wave i last week

[afandi2]

congrats.. i see u 've got what u want.. so care to share the expenses..? free *gifts*?

[AspMonK]

HI, tmolo there is a mini outing most of them rides wave.. feel free to join us... see ya