All about Steed

[wrshao]

Google for the manual and download it and read every letter.

It will turn you into a mechanic

 

If I could turn back time, id buy ebc HH pads. Also, the screeching sound costs too much to rectify. I changed the pads for both ends and that didnt do the trick in fact, it got slightly louder. It only happens when its cold.

 

Hey Hydher, do you happen to have the user manual for steed with you? It's crazy to google it, most of the links are broken...

[xavez]

Thanks for the compliments

 

Coyote66 I am not sure. I'm not familiar with the Shadow 400. Do you know what is the big bike equivalent for the Shadow 400? I'm guessing it's the Shadow ACE 750. 400cc bikes are considered toys to the Americans and they do not bother to check compatibility with them lol. Luckily for us Steed owners the 400 is identical to the 600 except the engine.

 

You can help by taking photos of your pegs form at least 2 angles and then measure the size of the pin if you can. I'm betting it should fit, just need to get the correct adaptors.

 

Click on the links below to get to the site where I got them from.

 

Link1

Link2

 

Initially I was drooling over these but decide not to as they wouldn't match my other accessories

 

Link3

 

I also strongly recommend that everyone should get this

 

Link4

 

They put tail and brake lights into the stock signal housing. Might not be legal due to our ridiculous laws about LED brakelights, but a simple disconnect of the connectors under the seat disables them, sure to pass inspection. Installation takes a little patience and reading of wiring diagram, but worth the effort plus quite fun to DIY =D

 

2 more days for their end of year sale! lol

 

I got the forward extensions from ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shadow-VLX-600-6-Forward-Controls-Extensions-Honda-/250703365236?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item3a5f15c474

 

These may fit the Shadow 400, assuming it's similar to the ACE 750

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Shadow-ACE-750-FORWARD-CONTROLS-EXTENSIONS-pegs-/250703364777?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item3a5f15c2a9

 

Oh and just to share, I use a commercial shipping service called HopShopGo. Quite cheap shipping, fast, reliable, and most importantly, has an US address for the sites that don't ship worldwide. I've heard horror stories about V-post....

 

 

 

AnAmIwEk, maybe you can try drilling a hole in the drum brake housing and sticking a tire air valve there. Then buy a can of brake cleaner and spray into it every morning. Not guaranteed to work, as one of the previous owners did that on my bike but I haven't got brake cleaner to try.

 

I'm not sure if all Steeds will burn engine oil, but mine did when I had electrical problems due to the annoying wire issue. After it was solved (temporary?), it stopped burning oil. In any case it's good to check at least once a month cuz you wouldn't want to ride around with insufficient engine oil... Will end up with an expensive overhaul if it's serious.

 

Btw you should get protective gear first before spending on the bike. Too many lousy/inconsiderate/reckless drivers on the road these days... I'm sure everyone here knows how most taxi drivers are on the road

 

wrshao, here you go, courtesy of google:

http://www.mediafire.com/?jhhhpbbwat4gcb5

Edited December 31, 2012 by xavez

[xavez]

one more thing: The manual states that the recommended engine oil should be API classification of SF or SG. I've read up about it, basically they mean different levels of additives, with the later revisions (eg SM) having less phosphorus content. Taken from wiki:

 

"All the current gasoline categories (including the obsolete SH), have placed limitations on the phosphorus content for certain SAE viscosity grades (the xW-20, xW-30) due to the chemical poisoning that phosphorus has on catalytic converters. Phosphorus is a key anti-wear component in motor oil and is usually found in motor oil in the form of zinc dithiophosphate. Each new API category has placed successively lower phosphorus and zinc limits, and thus has created a controversial issue of obsolescent oils needed for older engines, especially engines with sliding (flat/cleave) tappets."

 

I love my 17 year old bike and so I'm not taking chances with engine oil. Nothing less than Motul 7100, 10W40, API rated SG.

[AnAmIwEk]

hey xavez

 

haha i dont think i wanna do the drilling... haha dont wanna spoil the bike.. too risky. are there pads inside? should i change then? gonna send for servicing soon since my tail signal light has blown....how much does it cost for u roughly when u go for servicing? like changing the oil, oil filter plugs and stuff...?

[wrshao]

Thanks xavez! Was really gonna give up searching for the manual.

 

Anyway, anyone has any idea why when I gear down while the bike is moving, there's a loud and sharp click sound on my gear pedal. But when the bike's stationary, there's no sound when I gear down. Is there some fault in the gear transmission box?

 

Im riding a steed 400 by the way.

[AnAmIwEk]

Thanks xavez! Was really gonna give up searching for the manual.

 

Anyway, anyone has any idea why when I gear down while the bike is moving, there's a loud and sharp click sound on my gear pedal. But when the bike's stationary, there's no sound when I gear down. Is there some fault in the gear transmission box?

 

Im riding a steed 400 by the way.

 

mine does the same actually... its louder as it reaches gear 2/1 right? i think probably cause the bike is moving.. so the gears are rotating as we down which causes the sound.. i think..

[wrshao]

mine does the same actually... its louder as it reaches gear 2/1 right? i think probably cause the bike is moving.. so the gears are rotating as we down which causes the sound.. i think..

 

Nope, the sound doesnt become softer or louder when it reaches gear 2/1. It remains the same clock throughout the gear shift. However, if I were to step down the gear softly, there wont be a loud click, it will just be like a normal gear shifting...

[AnAmIwEk]

hey wrshao,

 

im not really sure whats happening then bro... been having trouble shifting to 2nd gear without going neutral myself... gonna service my bike tomorrow..

 

so guys.. where would you recommend me? used to send to a workshop at kaki bukit autobay, shop owner henry. but prices climbing like crazy and soon found out dad my dad got ripped off.. after that i went to unique motorsports just a few workshops ahead to service my fork. a little pricey... but they do a good and clean job.. looking for a good workshop that i can stick to.... where would u guy recommend?

[Hydher]

first motors ubi for steed.

 

Xavex, get thicker wires for the alternator wires the next time it gets burnt.

Its a high current thing so that might cause the issue.

Be generous with the black tape.

Get some spare fuses too.

 

Yes it applies to all vehicles.

Fyi xavez, i changed the engine and radiator gaskets.

If you want to change coolant, get the water base type like the water wetter. Dont get engine ice.

[AnAmIwEk]

hey hyder,

 

hmmm first motors ubi... how much is per service for u? i mean the usual servicing like the oil, oil filter, sparkplugs and etc.

 

i need a rough idea on the cost so i can come prepared. thinking of changing my front brake pads too. been screeching. and bearings too! haha do you know how much each cost?

 

thanks again for your help guys! really wish to meet all of you one day!

[xavez]

No problem wrshao

 

My gearbox is noisy too... either due to old age of maybe something worn out. When I kick to first from neutral there's a loud THUNK! and then if I step on the gear level hard after it's in first, it goes CLUNK CLUNK CLUNK until I release it. Then when I clutch in on neutral, there's a faint clanging sound from the clutch side. Asked a mech and he says the clanging is normal. Didn't ask about the gear change though, as I'm afraid it may be an expensive problem lol.

 

AnAmIwEk it could be that your clutch free play is too much. My gear changes were rough and often goes into neutral also. I reduced the freeplay and it became smooth and engages easily.

 

Planet Motors. But for major works, if you want Tender Loving Care (ie not getting scratches on your pipes) maybe elsewhere.

 

Get the mechs to check your wheels for freeplay and that it spins freely. If there isn't any problem there's no need to change wheel bearings.

 

Roughly 200 for the work you intend to do, assuming you get the premium oil.

 

Hydher, I've change the coolant a few months back already. Some green colour normal coolant. I think coolant performance don't differ that much across brands. The main purpose for coolant is water pump lubrication, anti corrosion, and anti freeze. Specific heat capacity of coolant mixture is actually lower than pure water, or in layman terms coolant mixture is a poorer conductor of heat.

[Hydher]

hey hyder,

 

hmmm first motors ubi... how much is per service for u? i mean the usual servicing like the oil, oil filter, sparkplugs and etc.

 

i need a rough idea on the cost so i can come prepared. thinking of changing my front brake pads too. been screeching. and bearings too! haha do you know how much each cost?

 

thanks again for your help guys! really wish to meet all of you one day!

 

Hmm spark plugs and brakepads change at first motors. Brake pads get the EBC HH. Dont get anything lesser even though they tell you not racing no need to get such a good one. Price is $20 plugs + 65 Front ebc hh + bearing $about 65. if you haven bleed the front brake before, go do it $10-15.

 

Oil and oil filter($15) change elsewhere. You will need 3.3L with the oil filter change. I would go down the road into planet motors.

 

coz first motors only have rock oil. Semi syn is 18 and fully syn 28 i think.

 

No problem wrshao

 

My gearbox is noisy too... either due to old age of maybe something worn out. When I kick to first from neutral there's a loud THUNK! and then if I step on the gear level hard after it's in first, it goes CLUNK CLUNK CLUNK until I release it. Then when I clutch in on neutral, there's a faint clanging sound from the clutch side. Asked a mech and he says the clanging is normal. Didn't ask about the gear change though, as I'm afraid it may be an expensive problem lol.

 

AnAmIwEk it could be that your clutch free play is too much. My gear changes were rough and often goes into neutral also. I reduced the freeplay and it became smooth and engages easily.

 

Planet Motors. But for major works, if you want Tender Loving Care (ie not getting scratches on your pipes) maybe elsewhere.

 

Get the mechs to check your wheels for freeplay and that it spins freely. If there isn't any problem there's no need to change wheel bearings.

 

Roughly 200 for the work you intend to do, assuming you get the premium oil.

 

Hydher, I've change the coolant a few months back already. Some green colour normal coolant. I think coolant performance don't differ that much across brands. The main purpose for coolant is water pump lubrication, anti corrosion, and anti freeze. Specific heat capacity of coolant mixture is actually lower than pure water, or in layman terms coolant mixture is a poorer conductor of heat.

 

Yes but thats why water wetter is very popular because what it does is it gives the coolness of pure water but still able to get close to the metal. It works for me and I love it. I think its $16 for a small bottle that would last me maybe about 10 coolant changes.

[Hydher]

hey hyder,

 

hmmm first motors ubi... how much is per service for u? i mean the usual servicing like the oil, oil filter, sparkplugs and etc.

 

i need a rough idea on the cost so i can come prepared. thinking of changing my front brake pads too. been screeching. and bearings too! haha do you know how much each cost?

 

thanks again for your help guys! really wish to meet all of you one day!

 

Hmm spark plugs and brakepads change at first motors. Brake pads get the EBC HH. Dont get anything lesser even though they tell you not racing no need to get such a good one. Price is $20 plugs + 65 Front ebc hh + bearing $about 65. if you haven bleed the front brake before, go do it $10-15.

 

Oil and oil filter($15) change elsewhere.I would go down the road into planet motors.

 

coz first motors only have rock oil. Semi syn is 18 and fully syn 28 i think.

 

No problem wrshao

 

My gearbox is noisy too... either due to old age of maybe something worn out. When I kick to first from neutral there's a loud THUNK! and then if I step on the gear level hard after it's in first, it goes CLUNK CLUNK CLUNK until I release it. Then when I clutch in on neutral, there's a faint clanging sound from the clutch side. Asked a mech and he says the clanging is normal. Didn't ask about the gear change though, as I'm afraid it may be an expensive problem lol.

 

AnAmIwEk it could be that your clutch free play is too much. My gear changes were rough and often goes into neutral also. I reduced the freeplay and it became smooth and engages easily.

 

Planet Motors. But for major works, if you want Tender Loving Care (ie not getting scratches on your pipes) maybe elsewhere.

 

Get the mechs to check your wheels for freeplay and that it spins freely. If there isn't any problem there's no need to change wheel bearings.

 

Roughly 200 for the work you intend to do, assuming you get the premium oil.

 

Hydher, I've change the coolant a few months back already. Some green colour normal coolant. I think coolant performance don't differ that much across brands. The main purpose for coolant is water pump lubrication, anti corrosion, and anti freeze. Specific heat capacity of coolant mixture is actually lower than pure water, or in layman terms coolant mixture is a poorer conductor of heat.

 

Yes but thats why water wetter is very popular because what it does is it gives the coolness of pure water but still able to get close to the metal. It works for me and I love it. I think its $16 for a small bottle that would last me maybe about 10 coolant changes. But you will have to use your own distilled water(i use battery water)

 

Here is my video

 

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Edited January 5, 2013 by Hydher

[wrshao]

Hey guys,

 

When you said flushing coolant, does it means just open the coolant cap and pour in or is there something I need to do before pouring water?

[dwpang]

hi guys anyone can share where can i make a custom tank? been searching this while but no news leh...

[Bardamuz]

hi guys anyone can share where can i make a custom tank? been searching this while but no news leh...

 

the question is what style you are looking for , have many way to made a custom tank

[AnAmIwEk]

So hydher... I need 4 bottles if I change oil filter? But the mech used only 2 bottle half..he actually asked me how many litres my bike needs...

[Hydher]

check your user manual to understand your bike better

 

very sorry i edited the 3.3L. It was 2+ and never 3L.

Got confused with my other bike,

Edited January 5, 2013 by Hydher

[dwpang]

the question is what style you are looking for , have many way to made a custom tank

 

Oh is there any shops that is recommended for making custom fuel tank? Because I went to kallang bahru to find ah di and apparently the place like gone le...

[Bardamuz]

Oh is there any shops that is recommended for making custom fuel tank? Because I went to kallang bahru to find ah di and apparently the place like gone le...

 

Dude, Ah di have move but if you wait about him you must be patient , i see some cafe racer he have start to made almost year ago and not finish at all.

 

I believe have hundred of place where you can made your custom tank, but for sure if you are waiting someone post in the web the prefect place and the more cheap you will wait for eternity.

 

let see my self i am not Singaporean and i don't know the bike Arena, but i run everywhere and found the perfect guy for made my transformation (bobber style) this took me time & energy ... we are all lazy but some time for stuff we care we have to move our ass

 

PS: i won't be rude i just try to help you

[Coyote66]

Dude, Ah di have move but if you wait about him you must be patient , i see some cafe racer he have start to made almost year ago and not finish at all.

 

I believe have hundred of place where you can made your custom tank, but for sure if you are waiting someone post in the web the prefect place and the more cheap you will wait for eternity.

 

let see my self i am not Singaporean and i don't know the bike Arena, but i run everywhere and found the perfect guy for made my transformation (bobber style) this took me time & energy ... we are all lazy but some time for stuff we care we have to move our ass

 

PS: i won't be rude i just try to help you

 

Bro when ur bike expected to be ready?

Looking forward to see it

It must be good

I trust ur taste

Even the before look is already 7/10 for me

[Bardamuz]

Bro when ur bike expected to be ready?

Looking forward to see it

It must be good

I trust ur taste

Even the before look is already 7/10 for me

my bike will be finish around March , be sure you will see it in pic's or in real, we have do a really heavy job in it (lot of headache) because the target is to made a Zero-eng can pass our lovely LTA

[Cruiserian]

Just got my steed. But speedometer light very dim. Is this normal?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Veil]

Just got my steed. But speedometer light very dim. Is this normal?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Congrats! I juz got mine a mth back n i did notice my speedo is dim too. We can meet up someday. I quite free nowadays. Can call me @90991225. Anyway, i stay at jurong east st 21.

[Cruiserian]

Congrats! I juz got mine a mth back n i did notice my speedo is dim too. We can meet up someday. I quite free nowadays. Can call me @90991225. Anyway, i stay at jurong east st 21.

 

Hi, I stayed in tampines. Hehe. Sure, i will let u know when there is a meetup. We have many many kind of cruisers. Haha

 

 

 

 

 

 

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