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[Discussion] ~ Suspension Related Issue

civicblade

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scubasimon Newbie

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ah pek. How's the difference between rebuild and just add nitro gas while rebuild (est $240) and nitro ( $40)? Any advice?

 

A rebuild involves a lot more work on the shock. If done by David, it includes completely stripping the shocks, reconditioning and removing any rust and making it smooth, adding of a spacer to stiffen the spring, and a refill. Feels like new. A recharge of gas would not come close if your shocks are already too soft.

 

This is my layman understanding and feel of my shocks before and after the rebuild.

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isureforget Newbie

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Currently riding s4 vtech 1 using moriwaki full system(shorty) and my middle part of the fs is quite low(as in near the road already) due to its design. my belly hv been touching humps when i ride over it even if i stand up and slowly crossing the hump. wanted to change to gazi rear shocks but dunno about the review of the shocks or should i service it? if servicing it should i change spring? coz i heard adding spacers will affect its stability. need advise from lao jiao. BADLY IN NEED OF HELP!!!!! thanks alot =)

Kevs Newbie

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Currently riding s4 vtech 1 using moriwaki full system(shorty) and my middle part of the fs is quite low(as in near the road already) due to its design. my belly hv been touching humps when i ride over it even if i stand up and slowly crossing the hump. wanted to change to gazi rear shocks but dunno about the review of the shocks or should i service it? if servicing it should i change spring? coz i heard adding spacers will affect its stability. need advise from lao jiao. BADLY IN NEED OF HELP!!!!! thanks alot =)

 

If you have read/know, the Mori Shorty's mid-section is lower than anything other FS exhuast.

Henceforth, it'll usually scrap those damn high humps.

 

Mine's already like sh!t.

 

The only way is to REALLY go slow over the humps.

I do it together with my left leg deployed down to tilt the bike, slightly.

Also, make sure yr tires pressure are always kept checked, it helps as when they're sufficiently pumped, it'll also help to elevate the bike higher.

This is the best combination I can do to prevent the mid-pipe being more scratched..

 

Assuming your rear shock's still OEM Showas, try setting the pre-load to the hardest, it may not prevent you frm hitting the humps, but still at least can minimise the rear frm soaking in the shock too much.

 

However, if the shock's have seen it haydays, best is bring to gt it re-furbished.

 

I'd done mine @ David's recently, however, it still doesnt prevents me frm hitting those humps.

 

Not saying that even after servicing the shocks are bad or not enough, its just that the pipe itself is too low than others.

Its either I live with it, or change it.

I choose the former. Cos its simply unique. :thumb:

 

& if u ask me about the aftermarket's shocks, other than Ohlins or WP, I wont even be looking others.. :p

 

 

 

& no, Im no lao jiao.. ;)

我们都在不断赶路忘记了出路, 在失望中追求偶尔的满足..

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While there is no reason to believe that the information is unreliable, no liability is accepted for any errors or inaccuracies.™®©

fusionx88 Newbie

fusionx88

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Hi guys,

 

Need some help here recently,i discover my left side of my rear showa suspension leaking oil quite badly.I riding a FN super 4 F3T ver S.SHould i change a just a choing pair or just bring to rebuild?Which is cheaper? Kinda poor recently...

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isureforget Newbie

isureforget

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If you have read/know, the Mori Shorty's mid-section is lower than anything other FS exhuast.

Henceforth, it'll usually scrap those damn high humps.

 

Mine's already like sh!t.

 

The only way is to REALLY go slow over the humps.

I do it together with my left leg deployed down to tilt the bike, slightly.

Also, make sure yr tires pressure are always kept checked, it helps as when they're sufficiently pumped, it'll also help to elevate the bike higher.

This is the best combination I can do to prevent the mid-pipe being more scratched..

 

Assuming your rear shock's still OEM Showas, try setting the pre-load to the hardest, it may not prevent you frm hitting the humps, but still at least can minimise the rear frm soaking in the shock too much.

 

However, if the shock's have seen it haydays, best is bring to gt it re-furbished.

 

I'd done mine @ David's recently, however, it still doesnt prevents me frm hitting those humps.

 

Not saying that even after servicing the shocks are bad or not enough, its just that the pipe itself is too low than others.

Its either I live with it, or change it.

I choose the former. Cos its simply unique. :thumb:

 

& if u ask me about the aftermarket's shocks, other than Ohlins or WP, I wont even be looking others.. :p

 

 

 

& no, Im no lao jiao.. ;)

 

Fianlly found 1 with shorty. i just done mine. dosent help much but the rear shock now feel much better when conering bends or zebra crossings. its unique and i will live with it. only thing is that idiling and low rpm shorty got no sound at all. hang out soon shorty people =)

Kevs Newbie

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Hi guys,

 

Need some help here recently,i discover my left side of my rear showa suspension leaking oil quite badly.I riding a FN super 4 F3T ver S.SHould i change a just a choing pair or just bring to rebuild?Which is cheaper? Kinda poor recently...

 

my opinions: Re-build. :thumb:

 

wont regret & go wrong frm there..

我们都在不断赶路忘记了出路, 在失望中追求偶尔的满足..

Disclaimer:

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While there is no reason to believe that the information is unreliable, no liability is accepted for any errors or inaccuracies.™®©

Kevs Newbie

Kevs

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Fianlly found 1 with shorty. i just done mine. dosent help much but the rear shock now feel much better when conering bends or zebra crossings. its unique and i will live with it. only thing is that idiling and low rpm shorty got no sound at all. hang out soon shorty people =)

 

Just go slow over the ridiculous humps ya? :thumb:

 

& why need to be loud?

dont need the wrong attention... :p

 

if u wana hang out, just go the Moriwaki thread.

More Shorties there.. :thumb:

我们都在不断赶路忘记了出路, 在失望中追求偶尔的满足..

Disclaimer:

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While there is no reason to believe that the information is unreliable, no liability is accepted for any errors or inaccuracies.™®©

ResmeN Newbie

ResmeN

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Fianlly found 1 with shorty. i just done mine. dosent help much but the rear shock now feel much better when conering bends or zebra crossings. its unique and i will live with it. only thing is that idiling and low rpm shorty got no sound at all. hang out soon shorty people =)

Hey I have shorty too and like Kev's said it's unique and wouldn't think of changing it. I know what you mean about idle and low rpm which is why I want to do the air filter mod this shorty user had done on you tube. Have also posted this in the Moriwaki thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjwfwgiCdUY&feature=relmfu

Makes it sound more beastly :p

Just go slow over the ridiculous humps ya? :thumb:

 

& why need to be loud?

dont need the wrong attention... :p

 

if u wana hang out, just go the Moriwaki thread.

More Shorties there.. :thumb:

Just like you I learnt this the hard way and since then make sure I go over speedhumps or go down steep driveways slowly with care with feet near the ground. Never think of mounting gutters anymore. Bad gutters. :thumb::)

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Kevs Newbie

Kevs

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Hey I have shorty too and like Kev's said it's unique and wouldn't think of changing it. I know what you mean about idle and low rpm which is why I want to do the air filter mod this shorty user had done on you tube. Have also posted this in the Moriwaki thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjwfwgiCdUY&feature=relmfu

Makes it sound more beastly :p

 

Just like you I learnt this the hard way and since then make sure I go over speedhumps or go down steep driveways slowly with care with feet near the ground. Never think of mounting gutters anymore. Bad gutters. :thumb::)

 

Res: replied yr queries via the Mori thread.

 

Neway, since my pipe has already been scratched, I cant be bothered much about scrapping more...

sans the really ridiculous high kerbs thou.. :sweat:

我们都在不断赶路忘记了出路, 在失望中追求偶尔的满足..

Disclaimer:

The above information is obtained from third party sources for which I assume no responsibility.

While there is no reason to believe that the information is unreliable, no liability is accepted for any errors or inaccuracies.™®©

fusionx88 Newbie

fusionx88

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my opinions: Re-build. :thumb:

 

wont regret & go wrong frm there..

 

Thanks bro do they just rebuild 1 side gotta scrap it soon so don't wanna spent much money on it

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Kevs Newbie

Kevs

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Thanks bro do they just rebuild 1 side gotta scrap it soon so don't wanna spent much money on it

 

you shld re-build both, then before scrapping, can sell/trade... :deal:

我们都在不断赶路忘记了出路, 在失望中追求偶尔的满足..

Disclaimer:

The above information is obtained from third party sources for which I assume no responsibility.

While there is no reason to believe that the information is unreliable, no liability is accepted for any errors or inaccuracies.™®©

Rider Saje Newbie

Rider Saje

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Hello Bros, wanna ask for your opinions. I'm on gazi shocks as I didnt check properly before I purchased the bike from bikeshop 3 yrs ago. Now, My shocks rabak already. So, should I get a 2nd hand showa or should I just change to a brand new YSS suspension. I'm going to use the bike for another 2 - 3 yrs. Awaiting for your feedbacks bros. Thanks

When I feel sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story. Hehe :thumb:

World Misanthropy Newbie

World Misanthropy

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Hello Bros, wanna ask for your opinions. I'm on gazi shocks as I didnt check properly before I purchased the bike from bikeshop 3 yrs ago. Now, My shocks rabak already. So, should I get a 2nd hand showa or should I just change to a brand new YSS suspension. I'm going to use the bike for another 2 - 3 yrs. Awaiting for your feedbacks bros. Thanks

 

Here's my point of view:

 

If you buy brand new YSS:

It can last you about 2years plus before it leaks. And by the time you wanna sell to bikeshop, they will take your bike lesser cus no original showa shocks.

 

If you buy 2nd hand showa:

The least you could do is rebuild it for $240 and can last you more than 4-5years. Some more got resale value.

 

 

I'm not condemning YSS, but based on my past experience, buying a 2nd hand showa would be my choice. = )

"Bikes don't leak oil, they mark their territory"...

Rider Saje Newbie

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Here's my point of view:

 

If you buy brand new YSS:

It can last you about 2years plus before it leaks. And by the time you wanna sell to bikeshop, they will take your bike lesser cus no original showa shocks.

 

If you buy 2nd hand showa:

The least you could do is rebuild it for $240 and can last you more than 4-5years. Some more got resale value.

 

I'm not condemning YSS, but based on my past experience, buying a 2nd hand showa would be my choice. = )

 

Thanks bro for your opinions. Hmm. YSS will cost me $320. 2nd hand showa is $450 + $240 rebuild = $690. Hmmmm..

When I feel sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story. Hehe :thumb:

Rider Saje Newbie

Rider Saje

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Hi Bros,

 

How do you distinguish a fake showa from a real one. What are the key components I have to look at? Please enlighten me. I wanna make sure so I will not get conned :)

When I feel sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story. Hehe :thumb:

scubasimon Newbie

scubasimon

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Why not just rebuild your current shocks?

http://simonnunis.smugmug.com/photos/684724736_fuDoa-M-1.jpg
NSRog Newbie

NSRog

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wah 700 might as well top a lil bit to get a pair of Bitubos. if not even a lil bit more to get the Ohlins.. hehe

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Rider Saje Newbie

Rider Saje

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wah 700 might as well top a lil bit to get a pair of Bitubos. if not even a lil bit more to get the Ohlins.. hehe

 

True. Well I havent decided yet. A guy wanted to sell his showa for 400. He told me he just rebuilded his shocks recently. Tmr gonna meet him to test it out.

When I feel sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story. Hehe :thumb:

minfr3ak Newbie

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where to rebuild suspension? i think mine leaking oredi.. and how much?

Oct 2006 - Sept 2010 : Yamaha RXZ 135 FBA**6*J

Sept 2010 - Current : Honda CB400 Spec 1 FX3*4*U

Rider Saje Newbie

Rider Saje

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where to rebuild suspension? i think mine leaking oredi.. and how much?

 

Teck Thye at Braddel Road. A couple of the forumers rebuilded their suspension their.

When I feel sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story. Hehe :thumb:

minfr3ak Newbie

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alamak.. where is it exactly eh? sorry bro.. and mind telling hw much?

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