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Posted
Hi Desmond! :)

 

lolx.. hi bro.. btw, are you the one with 0 accident? High 5! :p

 

Hard to chat up with you as you are busy man.. anyway, *I personally find that "radar scans" for all moving vehicle is important..

Not only look out for hazards vehicle because you never know when those "normal" looking vehicles suddenly become hazard.

:) Just my 2 cents..

Overloaded with information is better than accidents..

 

*anyway, I normally look behind 1 car, infront at least 3 cars/3 lanes unless all cars pile up, den I'll focus on until my eyes can see.. but.. still.. 1st 3 cars will be my most concern.

with regards to braking system, yes, Class 2a and Class 2 bikes are better.. but it won't be better than anyone who can control 2B's brake effectively. isn't it? :)

Another 2 cents of mine. :)

Kindly read thru at least the intro section first before decide to post any comments.... thanks... :cool:

 

Please proceed to this website/web link if you guys have any technical issues on Kawasaki Kips/KR150, I'll update the 1st POST as and when there's a new question. Newbies questions on the top as well. :)

 

 

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6285055#post6285055

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Yes, I am the lucky rider.

 

To acquire the Hazard Oriented Vision is to acquire a new skill. And like learning of any new skill, you will need to give time to train yourself. But once the skill is acquired, it is there for life long. And as long as your radar is working, you will be way way way better off than riding without a radar.

 

Watching out for every thing can lead to information overload. It is also not necessary. We just need to take note of the most common hazards and they will eliminate the great majority (maybe 95-99%, just my guess) of causes of accidents. So narrowing down to watching out the list of common hazards is one way to keep from being overwhelmed.

 

The other way to reduce being overwhelmed is to watch for "delta", or behaviour or road condition that deviates from the norm. Example, a vehicle that drives unusually fast, or usually slow. These are examples of delta or deviation. This way, our brain unconsciously only need to take care of the unusual which is far and between, rather than being alert for everything. Of course, this will take some time of conscious and discipline self-training and also needs road experience. But once there, it is a life-long life-saving skill.

29 Mar:

2009 Yamaha FZ1 Fazer Owner's Review

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www.RiderAsia.com Safety site for motorcycle riders

Posted
Yes, I am the lucky rider.

 

To acquire the Hazard Oriented Vision is to acquire a new skill. And like learning of any new skill, you will need to give time to train yourself. But once the skill is acquired, it is there for life long. And as long as your radar is working, you will be way way way better off than riding without a radar.

 

Watching out for every thing can lead to information overload. It is also not necessary. We just need to take note of the most common hazards and they will eliminate the great majority (maybe 95-99%, just my guess) of causes of accidents. So narrowing down to watching out the list of common hazards is one way to keep from being overwhelmed.

 

The other way to reduce being overwhelmed is to watch for "delta", or behaviour or road condition that deviates from the norm. Example, a vehicle that drives unusually fast, or usually slow. These are examples of delta or deviation. This way, our brain unconsciously only need to take care of the unusual which is far and between, rather than being alert for everything. Of course, this will take some time of conscious and discipline self-training and also needs road experience. But once there, it is a life-long life-saving skill.

 

lolx.. icic.. i guess my HOV is diff from yours bah.. mine is "sorta" information overload.. but the "delta" is really those that need to take note.. :)

 

should meet up and chat soon.. btw, where you stay? :)

Kindly read thru at least the intro section first before decide to post any comments.... thanks... :cool:

 

Please proceed to this website/web link if you guys have any technical issues on Kawasaki Kips/KR150, I'll update the 1st POST as and when there's a new question. Newbies questions on the top as well. :)

 

 

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6285055#post6285055

  • 5 months later...
Posted (edited)

HOV Motorcycle Safety Workshop 23 July 9.00 am to 3.00 pm

===========================================

 

The HOV Motorcycle Safety Class is here again.

Date: 23 July 2011 Saturday

Time: 9.00 am to 3.00 pm

Venue: 5 Shenton Way, UIC Building, #B1-10/12, Singapore 068808

Courtesy of Greendot Media Pte Ltd

Coaches: Endlessloop, Spectrum, Antartica, Contrarian.

 

Workshop Outline

============

1. Share key proven ideas of motorcycle safety for Singapore from our experienced safety coach who are motorcycle riders.

 

2. Interactive Case Studies by YOU on Application of motorcycle ideas to actual road scenarios. We are not interested in theory--we are only interested in what works on the road for us and you!

Hear other possible advice from our coaches that may improve/enhance your motorcycling skill.

 

3. Practical Road Ride.

Application of HOV (Hazard Oriented Vision). Experienced what it feels like to actually apply HOV. Subjected to weather, number of coaches, radio sets working.

 

 

Workshop Requirement

================

This workshop has been proven to be useful to riders of various experience--from experienced riders who have ridden for decades to riders who have passed several months. It really depends on you--a glass that is full cannot be filled any further.

 

You need to do some homework before you attend the course:

 

1) Go through the key ideas in Street Smart thread

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/85788-STREET-SMART

Especially those posts from Spectrum, Endlessloop and on HOV.

We do not have enough time to cover everything in Street Smart. So we will not go through the information there. If you do not go through in advanced, then you will not benefit as much as if you had and may missed things we are going to discuss about. I am not the one going to benefit or loose--it's you :)

 

2) Identify two cases of road situations that YOU will be discussing about and how to apply the key ideas in the workshop to deal with the situation. The best cases will be those that you have personally and actually happened to you. Again, it's for your own benefit. If you come empty handed, you will learn less :)

 

To Register, Do this:

1. PM me your SBF Nick Name,

Full Name,

Email,

Years of Riding Experience,

Model of Bike Riding Currently

Handphone

 

2. Put in your SBF Nickname below.

 

Class size is limited. We will stop registeration once we hit capacity.

 

Registered Attendees

================

1.

2.

Edited by endlessloop

29 Mar:

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Posted

To Register, Do this:

1. PM me your SBF Nick Name,

Full Name,

Email,

Years of Riding Experience,

Model of Bike Riding Currently

Handphone

 

2. Put in your SBF Nickname below.

 

Class size is limited. We will stop registeration once we hit capacity.

 

Registered Attendees

================

1. Yappy

2. Weian (Ducati)

3. Xavw (FZ150)

4. Flareon (FJR)

5.

6.

29 Mar:

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Posted

To Register, Do this:

1. PM me your SBF Nick Name,

Full Name,

Email,

Years of Riding Experience,

Model of Bike Riding Currently

Handphone

 

2. Put in your SBF Nickname below.

 

Class size is limited. We will stop registeration once we hit capacity.

 

Registered Attendees

================

1. Yappy

2. Weian (Ducati)

3. Xavw (FZ150)

4. Flareon (FJR)

5.

6.

29 Mar:

2009 Yamaha FZ1 Fazer Owner's Review

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Posted

To Register, Do this:

1. PM me your SBF Nick Name,

Full Name,

Email,

Years of Riding Experience,

Model of Bike Riding Currently

Handphone

 

2. Put in your SBF Nickname below.

 

Class size is limited. We will stop registeration once we hit capacity.

 

Registered Attendees

================

1. Yappy

2. Weian (Ducati)

3. Xavw (FZ150)

4. Flareon (FJR)

5. CSV (Phantom 200)

6.

February 2011 - March 2012 = Phantom TA 200

March 2012 - August 2013 = Suzuki Impulse 400

Present = BMW (Bus, MRT, Walk)

 

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Posted

To Register, Do this:

1. PM me your SBF Nick Name,

Full Name,

Email,

Years of Riding Experience,

Model of Bike Riding Currently

Handphone

 

2. Put in your SBF Nickname below.

 

Class size is limited. We will stop registeration once we hit capacity.

 

Registered Attendees

================

1. Yappy

2. Weian (Ducati)

3. Xavw (FZ150)

4. Flareon (FJR)

5. CSV (Phantom 200)

6. lnfinity (KRR)

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MAY THE V4 BE WITH YOU

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

To Register, Do this:

1. PM me your SBF Nick Name,

Full Name,

Email,

Years of Riding Experience,

Model of Bike Riding Currently

Handphone

 

2. Put in your SBF Nickname below.

 

Class size is limited. We will stop registeration once we hit capacity.

 

Registered Attendees

================

1. Yappy

2. Weian (Ducati)

3. Xavw (FZ150)

4. Flareon (FJR)

5. CSV (Phantom 200)

6. lnfinity (KRR)

7. Ohayo (Pcx)

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

HOV Motorcycling Safety Class is on.

 

My contact is 97555200. See you all at #B1-10/12.

 

 

Date: 23 July 2011 Saturday

Time: 9.00 am to 3.00 pm

Venue: 5 Shenton Way, UIC Building, #B1-10/12, Singapore 068808

Courtesy of Greendot Media Pte Ltd

Coaches: Endlessloop, Spectrum, Contrarian.

 

 

 

To Register, Do this:

1. PM me your SBF Nick Name,

Full Name,

Email,

Years of Riding Experience,

Model of Bike Riding Currently

Handphone

 

2. Put in your SBF Nickname below.

 

Class size is limited. We will stop registeration once we hit capacity.

 

Registered Attendees

================

1. Yappy

2. Weian (Ducati)

3. Xavw (FZ150)

4. Flareon (FJR)

5. CSV (Phantom 200)

6. Ohayo (Pcx)

29 Mar:

2009 Yamaha FZ1 Fazer Owner's Review

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Posted

You may park at the multistorey carpark of UIC Building. It is free for motorcycles.

29 Mar:

2009 Yamaha FZ1 Fazer Owner's Review

loudexhaust.blogspot.com

www.RiderAsia.com Safety site for motorcycle riders

Posted

great. see you guys there.

February 2011 - March 2012 = Phantom TA 200

March 2012 - August 2013 = Suzuki Impulse 400

Present = BMW (Bus, MRT, Walk)

 

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Posted

Latest update is the UIC building no longer allows motorcycle into the carpark (you may still go in paying car rate). So park nearby the UIC building.

 

You may park at the multistorey carpark of UIC Building. It is free for motorcycles.

29 Mar:

2009 Yamaha FZ1 Fazer Owner's Review

loudexhaust.blogspot.com

www.RiderAsia.com Safety site for motorcycle riders

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Hi guys,

 

as requested. feedback from me regarding the HOV course.

 

cocoon of space is immensely applicable right from the start. my journey back from the course, i could already notice the gaps between vehicles. easy cruising.

 

as for Hov wise, it would take a little more initiative from the rider to apply. which is what i am having issues with. to get into the HOV mindset once i am on the bike. It's also harder to apply HOV when you are also looking for the right way on new roads as well.

 

A suggestion from me is to go deeper into how a rider should think and process the information when he spots the hazard.

 

something like rider sees car stopping at filter lane, rider must prepare to keep fingers on the brake lever, anticipate if the car will come out, anticipate if there is another car beside the 1st one also filtering out unseen. rider must also keep eye focus on the driver.

 

basically, it what the rider should do once a hazard is spotted and how he should react, when to react as well.

 

experience sharing was excellent as well, since we know what happened to other riders and how to prevent it.

 

that's about what i have to offer. looking forward to seeing what else is in store.

February 2011 - March 2012 = Phantom TA 200

March 2012 - August 2013 = Suzuki Impulse 400

Present = BMW (Bus, MRT, Walk)

 

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  • 1 month later...
Posted

Hi CSV,

Thanks for your feedback on Cocoon of Space. And a fresh perspective on the practising of HOV :)

 

To CSV and others who have learnt HOV, if you have any experience of how HOV has helped or saved you, or how one can better learn HOV, do share here.

29 Mar:

2009 Yamaha FZ1 Fazer Owner's Review

loudexhaust.blogspot.com

www.RiderAsia.com Safety site for motorcycle riders

  • 6 months later...
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Hi @endlessloop,

 

Are you still running these HOV sessions ? I would like to know if you'd agree to run a session for a group of 2B riders.

Participants number can be adjusted to your max capacity. Profiles vary from very new riders (0-3 months experience) with a majority around 1-3 years exp and some above.

 

This group is composed of Pulsar, FZ16 and Duke riders: these 3 clubs of passionate riders are willing to raise awareness among their ranks for safe riding habits, and encourage riders to learn and develop new riding skills to get them home safely everyday.

So we are looking for opportunities to improve ourselves, and gather knowledge from other riders to get better.

 

I really hope you can accommodate a session or two for this group, if you are keen, I can gather exact attendance and the details you usually require.

 

The date and location would be to your convenience, let me know if you need any other info from me.

 

I'm posting this here instead of a PM in case other fellow riders want to tag along, I hope this is ok.

 

Cheers ! :cheers:

Pulsarians Singapore on Facebook:

The Page: http://fb.me/SingaporePulsarians For general news and info

The Group: http://fb.me/groups/pulsarianssg/ For all the interaction

between Pulsarians, maintenance tips, accessories, trips & meet-ups and of course live answers to all your questions !

Posted

A bit of feedback on my part, I attended the HOV session almost 2 years ago, maybe 1.5 years ago.

To this day, I still remember the advices and strategies I learned that day.

 

And after a few first weeks a bit difficult to train myself to apply them to my riding, I had since a very enjoyable accident free riding experience.

Except when I stopped applying these principles and lost focus/patience. Happened to me twice on my first big touring trip, in MY, the first time it was built up frustration with traffic and fatigue from a long day of ride, and the second time, lack of common sense and attention, pointing at something to my pillion (MY again, 2 days later I think). Both incidents were thankfully nothing bad, bumped into the front car at very slow speed, still throwing us both to the ground, and second time, stopped before the hazard, but heavy loaded bike + pillion = dropped to the ground.

 

But these two experiences reinforced my conviction that HOV is the way to ride. I've been riding 1 month in Vietnam, in crazy insane impossible to anticipate traffic, yet, was happily surprised to see that all the behaviors and strategies learned 2 years ago could apply, and made my touring trip so much more enjoyable and safe.

 

I notice sometimes when riding with other bikes, that I tend to notice hazards or potentially weird behaviors from other road users sooner than the bikes ahead of me. I also realized that sometimes I take a preemptive action earlier (something fishy ahead, I change lane into a free space and notice the other riders have to either swerve or change lane abruptly when they could've done it earlier too).

 

Something I haven't read about much in the feedbacks, is the confidence HOV techniques bring.

I was never really the confident rider to start with, but when you apply these principles of awareness on the road and actually manage to avoid difficult situations or dangers, without even getting yourself in a stress, you gain confidence. Not cockiness mind you. Just confidence, a sort of clear knowledge that your attention, focus and dedication to screening the road and environment around you at all times, is a very efficient shield allowing you to ride more relaxed. More relaxed = no bad vibes or anxiety to mess with your scanning and Spiderman senses during the ride :)

 

So I guess what I am saying is, thank you for all the knowledge and sharing, for the session I attended as well as the posts I read here.

 

I think this + the Street Smart thread are the two main things that have helped me ride safely, making me enjoy riding to the point of wanting to travel on a motorcycle, and making my family less worried about it than they were when I first got my license.

Pulsarians Singapore on Facebook:

The Page: http://fb.me/SingaporePulsarians For general news and info

The Group: http://fb.me/groups/pulsarianssg/ For all the interaction

between Pulsarians, maintenance tips, accessories, trips & meet-ups and of course live answers to all your questions !

Posted

@endlessloop,

 

let me know if you need people to volunteer, i am willing and able.

February 2011 - March 2012 = Phantom TA 200

March 2012 - August 2013 = Suzuki Impulse 400

Present = BMW (Bus, MRT, Walk)

 

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Posted

Bump? :shy:

Pulsarians Singapore on Facebook:

The Page: http://fb.me/SingaporePulsarians For general news and info

The Group: http://fb.me/groups/pulsarianssg/ For all the interaction

between Pulsarians, maintenance tips, accessories, trips & meet-ups and of course live answers to all your questions !

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

Hope we can organise a HoV session soon :pray: :cheeky:

Pulsarians Singapore on Facebook:

The Page: http://fb.me/SingaporePulsarians For general news and info

The Group: http://fb.me/groups/pulsarianssg/ For all the interaction

between Pulsarians, maintenance tips, accessories, trips & meet-ups and of course live answers to all your questions !

  • 1 month later...
Posted

Hi O'Ren,

 

Hey, hey. Sorry, I did not come into SgBike forum for a while. I will come back with another session soon:) Thanks for reaching out to other bikers' safety.

29 Mar:

2009 Yamaha FZ1 Fazer Owner's Review

loudexhaust.blogspot.com

www.RiderAsia.com Safety site for motorcycle riders

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