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ok... i will be back on the 27th.... then prolly late night we have coffee ya.. i should have my car awhile more before i sell it because i might migrate to vietnam soon.. to do business.. yupss

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PLEASE UPDATE THE LISTS!!!!!

 

Guys,

 

MotoGP Sepang details are as follows:

 

Friday, 23 October 2009

 

125 FP1 12:40 - 13:40

MotoGP FP1 13:55 - 14:55

250 FP1 15:10 - 16:10

 

Saturday, 24 October 2009

 

125 FP2 09:00 - 09:40

MotoGP FP2 09:55 - 10:55

250 FP2 11:10 - 12:10

 

125 QP 13:00 - 13:40

MotoGP QP 13:55 - 14:55

250 QP 15:10 - 15:55

 

Sunday, 25 October 2009

 

125 WUP 09:40 - 10:00

250 WUP 10:10 - 10:30

MotoGP WUP 10:40 - 11:00

 

125 RAC 12:00

250 RAC 13:15

MotoGP RAC 15:00

 

THE PLAN***: Ride on Friday(23rd) night. Back on Monday(26th).

***Due for planning.

 

Those who wanna ride down do sms me/khai your interest. So we could have some basic planning, and possibly decide which hotel to stay, how many rooms to book, how many to a room, etc.

 

So far, this is the list of guys who are interested:

1) macan_putih aka Khai @ 91455310

2) blast3dGaL (pending)

3) ragnophobia

4) zack939

5) redx (pending approval)

6) din (pending leave)

7) quikslvr

8) IZECUBEZ

9) whoissham [paid $25]

10) insaint (patrick) Pending miss last year.

11) shandantou (chung) [paid $25]

12) Rudinator (rudy) Pending due to TP

13) ah^jin

14)Krisna (pending)

 

**Estimated expenditure : last year I personally spent approx SGD300.

It varies from person to person (personal shopping desires).

 

Those interested on expenditure:

I remember paying $100 for hotel, RM80 for Main Grand Stand Tickets, and about rm100 for petrol.. and the rest for food, and shopping.. I think.. Those who went last year, pls correct me if I'm wrong.

 

***We are looking at service apartments, if you have any suggestions, pls feel free to share. A certain sum will need to be paid after a few meetings to discuss accomodation and itenary. This is to avoid any last minute back off after hotel/apartment booking.

 

Most likely we are going to start discussing this during our meet-ups starting next month, and more seriously in September. So those interested, pls try to come down in future and upcoming impromptu meet-ups if you have enquiries, or any ideas/suggestions to share.

 

And kindly update the list. Thanks...

 

UPDATE (24/7) by Isa

 

i have found 1 service apartment,actually a condotel (condo + hotel).Its RM118 per person for the 2 nights.The apartment is in the city itself and has pool(to relax aft hrs of racing),gym (to keep fit n buildup stamina to last 40 laps of races) n playground (for those who bring kids haha..) the place also has security guard n the perimeter is secure.anyway pictures speak a thousand words.here is the webby

http://www.junesapartment.com/index.htm

 

so u guys ok with the place?

 

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Anymore suggestions??

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Feel free to leave feedback to me @ 8174 6462 via sms. Pls leave your nick and name in the text message. Thank You.

 

 

PLS PAY YOUR DEPOSITS OF SGD$25 OR RM59 FOR THE SEPANG TRIP BY END OF AUGUST THX

 

Do let me know if you had paid to Khai direct. Thanks.

Oct 2002 - PPL

19 Sept 2005 - 2B

18 Sept 2007 - 2A

20 July 2010 - 2

 

Oct 2005 - present: Aprilia RS 125

Oct 16 2010 - Feb 2011: Honda CBR 600 RR

Apr 08 2011: Ducati Monster 620

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Hey guys where do you all go to service for RS125? Always saw this AH seng flying around where is he located at?

Born to lead, live to ride.

 

20 August 2009 - 2B

currently riding RS125 '09 FBD 8*** S

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Hey guys where do you all go to service for RS125? Always saw this AH seng flying around where is he located at?

 

he is always flying around so hard to catch him.

Oct 2002 - PPL

19 Sept 2005 - 2B

18 Sept 2007 - 2A

20 July 2010 - 2

 

Oct 2005 - present: Aprilia RS 125

Oct 16 2010 - Feb 2011: Honda CBR 600 RR

Apr 08 2011: Ducati Monster 620

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Ah Seng is working for First Motors. Its at Ubi Road 1 :)

 

Go past the front of TP HQ (which should be on your right), turn right at the 1st traffic light.

1st Left on Road 1, 1st Shop on the right thus First Motors.. :)

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I dont think First Motor is that great.. Personally the best is Mah!! They are the dealer for Aprilia. They should know all about the bike!

Edited by Sub Zero

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I dont think First Motor is that great.. Personally the best is Mah!! They are the dealer for Aprilia. They should all about the bike!

 

wah vick, am i hearing tis rite from u..? u sound totally opposite frm wat i heard during the jln kayu meetup...

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:) :)

 

:) :)

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Lawrence,

 

When are you sending out the order for ultimate parts and PJ respectively?

 

Hi Vik, should be end of Aug, 30/31, but no later than 1st week of September.

 

Give me the list of items you'd like me to order for you, and I'll add them to my list after transfer has been made.

 

Hi.. I would like to order too... if can...

 

Yes, can. As long as you pay for the items in full before the order is sent.

 

Give me the list of items, and have the cash ready.

Believe nothing you hear; and only half of what you see.

Do or do not; there is no 'try'.

 

http://www.themuser.com/forum/index.php

 

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Izecubez has already sent me his list of items via PM including the amount payable converted to SGD.

 

Anyone else wants to tompang their order?

 

I will be ordering for myself:

 

- 2 x Dellorto 34mm VHSB Carburetor

- 34mm Carburetor Inlet Manifold

- Fuel Pipe

- Fuel Pipe Quick Connector

- Swivel Gear Lever

- HPI Dual Curve Remappable CDI

- HPI CDI Software and Lead

 

From Dellorto, am getting an a 70 degree elbow for my throttle cable for smoother and more accurate feel - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/lacrimosae/Aprilia/cableelbows.jpg

 

Please PM me your list of items and include the total price including the converted amount to SGD.

 

Items will not be ordered unless paid for in full cash in advance. You will also need to pay a little extra during collection of items to defray the shipping costs.

 

Deadline to make full payment to me is 4 September.

 

I will place the order and make online payment on 8 September.

 

I will only be in Singapore on the abovementioned dates.

Edited by lacrimosae

Believe nothing you hear; and only half of what you see.

Do or do not; there is no 'try'.

 

http://www.themuser.com/forum/index.php

 

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wah vick, am i hearing tis rite from u..? u sound totally opposite frm wat i heard during the jln kayu meetup...

 

haha sep! now u know right, actually we kanna con liao! woo! sob.

 

when are we going to FM aka ghost shop again? i wanna go soon! time to service. anyone wanna go?

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Learning to tune a carb isn't easy, but you have to start somewhere. I started by reading as much as I could.

 

Below is a cached document on carbs. Some diagrams and certain information are missing, but otherwise, a very concise explanation on the basic functions of our most important component on our bikes - the beloved carbie :)

 

Those interested in tuning, read this first.

 

CARBURETOR

 

HISTORY AND DEVELOPMENT:

The carburetor was invented by Karl Benz in 1885 and patented in 1886. It was apparently also invented by the Hungarian engineers Janos Csonka and Donát Bánki in 1893. Frederick William Lanchester of Birmingham, England experimented early on with the wick carburetor in cars. In 1896 Frederick and his brother built the first petrol driven car in England, a single cylinder 5 hp (4 kW) internal combustion engine with chain drive. Unhappy with the performance and power, they re-built the engine the next year into a two cylinder horizontally opposed version using his new wick carburetor design. This version completed a 1,000 mile (1600 km) tour in 1900 successfully incorporating the carburetor as an important step forward in automotive engineering.

Carburetors were the usual fuel delivery method for almost all gasoline (petrol)-fuelled engines up until the late 1980s, when fuel injection became the preferred method of automotive fuel delivery. In the U.S. market, the last carbureted car was the 1991 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor equipped with the 351 in³ (5.8 L) engine, and the last carbureted light truck was the 1994 Isuzu. Elsewhere, Lada cars used carburetors until 1996. A majority of motorcycles still utilize carburetors due to lower cost and throttle response problems with early injection set ups, but as of 2005, many new models are now being introduced with fuel injection. Carburetors are still found in small engines and in older or specialized automobiles, such as those designed for stock car racing.

 

BASIC PRINCIPLES:

Otto cycle engines used to power both two and four stroke motorcycles are fed with fuel (normal gasoline, special gasolines for some competition needs or, in some uncommon cases, methyl and/or ethyl alcohol), which is sufficiently volatile and has ignition properties which allow it to be premixed with the combustion air before the combustion is initiated by the spark plug. On the other hand, in Diesel cycle engines, the fuel is less volatile and has ignition properties which require that it be mixed with air only inside the combustion chamber, where the pressure and temperature conditions are such to induce natural ignition. For this reason, the power delivery of diesel engines may be adjusted by fuel delivery alone, without the need to control the airflow. In Otto cycle engines, when the fuel is pre-mixed with the air, it is necessary to control the airflow and therefore, indirectly, the fuel flow. In automobile engines, fuel injection systems are used in most models, controlled by a central unit that adjusts the duration of time during which the injectors remain open to deliver fuel into the air stream. As everyone knows, analogous systems have been adopted on some high range motorcycle engines. In most cases, however, carburetors are widely used, where the fuel is introduced according to the vacuum generated on various systems of fuel jets. The carburetor is therefore designed to perform three basic functions:

1. To control the power delivered by the engine, adjusting the airflow inducted according to driver demand.

2. To meter the fuel flow into the inducted air stream, while keeping the air/fuel ratio in the optimum range over the engine's entire working range.

3. To homogenize the air and fuel mixture in order to make the ignition and combustion proceed properly.

 

The main components of a motorcycle carburetor are:

1. starting lever;

2. air intake;

3. venturi;

4.starter jet;

5. float chamber;

6. atomizer;

7. fuel valve;

8. needle;

9. throttle valve;

10. float chamber air intake;

II. fuel connection;

12. Idle mixture adjusting screw;

13. throttle valve adjusting screw;

14. float;

15. idle emulsion tube,

16.idle jet;

17. main jet.

 

This is the sequence of the gasoline delivery in the inducted airflow: the fuel inside the float chamber rises in the atomizer, going through the jet which adjusts the delivery together with the needle ; the liquid is emulsified first with the air arriving from the channel inside the nozzle then going into the venturi it mixes with the air coming from the intake.

 

THE MIXTURE RATIO:

The air/fuel ratio (A/F) is the ratio between the air and fuel mass inducted by the engine. It is defined

as: A/F = Mair/Mfuel If we consider this ratio from a chemical point of view, the value of the stoichiometric A/F ratio is the one that allows complete combustion, without leaving either excess air (lean mixtures) or unburned fuel (rich mixtures)

 

Stoichiometric A/F:

The stoichiometric A/F ratio depends on the fuel type. For commercial gasoline this varies from about 14.5 to 14.8, meaning that 14.5- 14.8 pounds of air are needed for the complete combustion of 1 the fuel mixes with the air inducted by the engine by means of different circuits according to the throttle opening.

 

Here above on the left hand side, we can see the operation at idle, with the liquid that is metered by the jet (18) and arrives in the fuel trap (22) before it emulsifies with the air arriving from the channel (16) and adjusted by the screw (17). This emulsion goes under the throttle valve (12) and into the aspiration channel (13) from the ports (19 and 20). On the right hand side, the same carburetor at wide open throttle with the fuel flow adjusted by the main jet (28) that it emulsifies with the air (24) in the atomizer (27) before exiting from the nozzle (26).

 

A modern needle type carburetor (Dell'Orto VHSB) is equipped with different circuits with relevant calibration jets to assure proper fuel delivery under all conditions. As we can see from the section diagram, each fuel circuit leads to the constant level float chamber Section of the fuel feed circuit in a Dell'Orto VHSB carburetor: 1. Fuel line from the tank; 2. Screen filter; 3 fuel valve seat; 4 valve needle; 5 float arm pin; 6. float holder on the arm; 7. float; 8. float driver; 9. float chamber air intake.

 

A/F ratio produced by the carburetor:

The mixture delivered by the carburetor during the engine's operation doesn't necessarily correspond to a stoichiometric A/F value. According to the engine design and its operating conditions (r.p.m. and load) a portion of the delivered fuel may not be burned because it doesn't reach the combustion chamber or because the combustion itself is not perfect. Some charge dilution can also occur from residual exhaust gas remaining in the cylinder, as well as some loss of fresh charge at the exhaust. These effects are particularly sensitive in two stroke engines. If we consider that the appropriate A/F ratio must be that of the charge taking part in the combustion, we can assert that the mixture delivered by the carburetor must be richer (A/F

 

A/F ratio requirement under different conditions:

The A/F ratio must vary within certain limits, depending on the engine operating conditions. Generally we can expect that the air/fuel mixture must be richer (A/F lower) at idle, in the acceleration mode, and at full power. On the contrary, at constant load the mixture may be lean, meaning that the A/F ratio can increase compared to the previous conditions.

 

In two stroke engines, the words "rich" and "lean" referring to the mixture, have relative value under different specific operating conditions of the engine, and the stoichiometric mixture is not often referred to, since in these engines the mixtures are always richer that stoichiometric. This may also be partially true in many fourstroke engines, but in general, these engines use leaner mixtures than two stroke engines

 

OPERATING PRINCIPLES OF THE BASIC CARBURETOR:

 

THE FUEL DELIVERY CIRCUITS:

Liquid fuel is fed to the nozzle of the carburetor venturi, and flows due to the vacuum generated by the air flowing past the venturi itself, and from airflow pulsations generated by the piston movement. The calibrated jets placed upstream of the spray nozzle itself control the fuel flow reaching the spray nozzle. Motorcycle carburetors are nearly always of the needle type and have a structural architecture as shown in the accompanying illustrations. The fuel arriving from the tank is held inside a constant level float chamber. The liquid pressure head on the various jets is relatively constant.

The difference between the float chamber fuel level and the level that the fuel must be raised to by the inducing vacuum remains constant. The float chamber level is kept constant by means of a fuel inlet valve, actuated by a float that follows free surface of the liquid in the float chamber. When the float chamber level drops, due the fuel used by the engine, the float drops and opens the valve, so that additional fuel can flow from the tank.

 

The level of the fuel and float then increases, and at a certain point, closes the valve until the sequence is repeated. The level in the float chamber is therefore a calibration element of the carburetor, since the metered fuel delivery changes with float level, and therefore affects the mixture ratio. By having a high float level, a greater fuel quantity is delivered compared to the case with a low float level, under all operating conditions and for all of the carburetor’s circuits. Adjustment of the float chamber level is affected by two elements: the weight of the float (or of the floats) and the configuration of the lever arm that connects the float with the valve. By installing a heavier float, the free surface of the float chamber liquid must rise before the float buoyancy force balances the increased weight making the float rise.

 

The result will be a higher float chamber level and a richer delivered mixture under the same conditions. On the contrary if we install a lighter float, a lower liquid level will cause sufficient buoyant force to actuate the valve and therefore the carburetor calibration will become leaner. That is why floats are classified according to their weight (printed on them) and calibration standards for their position inside the float chamber are prescribed in order to assure correct operation.

 

Carburetors can have different types of flange connections to the engine, according to their use. On the left we can see a flat flange with a seal O-ring; on the right we see a male sleeve required for mounting inside a flexible coupling.

To modify the float chamber level, if necessary and when it's not possible to change the float weight, in some cases it's possible to change the angle of the lever that operates the valve. In this way, the float closes the valve in advance (for a lower level) or later (for a higher level) at equal weight. We must note, however, that too low a level in the float chamber can result in an insufficient liquid head on the jets and therefore lead to the risk of dangerous enleanment of the delivered mixture. This can occur when the fuel moves inside the float chamber due to the accelerations the vehicle undergoes. In these cases (which mainly happen on off-road motorcycles or on the track, in the bends or under violent braking), if the level is too low, one of the jets leading to the carburetor's circuits may be temporarily exposed to air instead of liquid.

 

In some versions, special screen baffles are applied near the jets. These are called bottom traps and their purpose is to maintain the maximum liquid quantity around the jets under all possible conditions. A needle that closes on a seat, which is inserted or screwed into the carburetor's body, forms the fuel valve. The needle is equipped with a synthetic rubber element on the tip. This material is perfectly compatible with normal commercial gasoline but in the case of special fuels such as those containing alcohol, it is necessary to verify the compatibility of the fuel and the seals in order not to compromise the carburetor's functionality. Different versions of the needles are equipped with a sprung tip in the connection with the float, in order to reduce the needle's vibration induced by the motion of the liquid in the float chamber and from the motorcycle's movements.

The diameter of the needle valve is a calibration element since it determines the maximum fuel delivery rate. If the diameter is too small to accommodate the fuel quantity that the engine requires under certain conditions (generally at full load) the float chamber empties faster than it can be replenished through the needle valve! If this condition should continue for some time, the engine suffers from reduced fuel delivery due to the fact that the level in the float chamber is decreased and therefore the carburetion has become too lean.

 

THE VENTURI AND THE AIRFLOW CONTROL:

Motorcycle carburetors are mainly needle type with the air flow adjusted by means of a sliding valve that, depending on the different versions, can have a cylindrical or flat profile. Even in vacuum carburetors, also called at constant speed, we find such a valve that works together with the throttle valve actuated by the driver. We will talk about these carburetors later on due to their peculiar working features.

 

THE VENTURI:

The venturi is one of the elements that define the carburetor, since a basic dimension is the diameter of the venturi itself, generally expressed in mm.The diameter choice is strictly related to the engine requirements, which must be satisfied. For motorcycle engines, a separate carburetor feeds each cylinder; therefore the problem of flow distribution from a single carburetor to different cylinders is avoided. From a numerical point of view the critical dimensions are selected.

 

The venturi of the modern motorcycle carburetor is carefully developed to reduce disturbances in the flow around the throttle valve and its seat. On the left-hand side, we see the venturi fitted on a Dell'Orto VHSD carburetor with two thin slits where the guillotine runs to adjust the airflow. Below, left hand side the section of a VHSB carburetor where the reduced thickness of the flat throttle is emphasized. On the right is the cylindrical valve of a carburetor series PH, showing a dimension in the flow direction, higher than in the first case. In both drawings we can see, under the venturis, the passages which lead to the idle and progression circuits, which we will discuss later in this article.

According to constructive practice and from the experience accumulated on a wide range of motorcycles and engine types. The diameter determination is then made through tests on the engine. For instance, small two-stroke engines used in cycles and scooters are equipped with carburetors having a venturi with a diameter from 12 to 14mm.On 125cm3 displacement two stroke engines used in competition, we use venturis with diameters which can vary from 36 up to 40 mm and over, as is common on powerful rotary valve units used in racing. When performance is the main consideration, the venture diameter determines the resistance that the aspiration system (the carburetor's venturi is part of this system) offers to the aspirated flow.

 

Large diameter venturis obviously introduce a lower resistance than we usually have with smaller diameter venturis, therefore in order to improve the efficiency of this component, inserts inside the venturi itself are used, which eliminate steps and shape variations, while keeping the diameter value. The inserted venturis of Dell'Orto VHSB series carburetors are shown in the illustrations. On the contrary, a venturi with reduced diameter results in higher air speed at an equal flow inducted by the engine and, therefore, results in a higher vacuum signal on the nozzles which deliver the fuel.

 

Shown above are two different shapes of the venturi's opening. On the left we have the classic oval section while on the right the one called "badge (shield)" which shows a smaller area portion on the lower side, close to the small fuel ports that results in better modulation as required by some engine types. Below, a comparison between a round piston throttle valve and a plane valve, also called guillotine. In the center we have the guiding hole for the conical needle. Above, on the left: valves often have a hardened surface with chrome plating in order to assure high resistance to wear. The shape of both edges is very important to assure there is no leakage when the valve is closed. On the right is a valve introduced in the insert-venturi that is assembled in the carburetor's body (Dell'Orto VHSB) Below, the valve and spring assembly of a competition Dell'Orto VHSD carburetor. The spring is of small dimensions, but sufficient to shut off the airflow, thanks to the low friction of the sliding guillotine.

 

by the engine and, therefore, results in a higher vacuum signal on the nozzles which deliver the fuel. In some conditions and for engines that have to work over a wide range of r.p.m., such a feature can become very important, with less consideration to the need for lower resistance. On this matter we can assert that the power loss introduced by the carburetor depends, in addition to the diameter of its venturi, on its profile in the direction of the airflow. Beyond the configuration of the throttle valve area, the connections with the air intake and the area downstream of the venturi, where the carburetor connects with the aspiration channel, are very important.

 

THE SHAPE OF THE VENTURI SECTION:

 

Once the area is determined, according to the supply requirements of the engine, there are design choices to be made on the shape of the venturi section. For competition engines or engines which have to offer high performance without any particular concern regarding other operating modes, the most favorable section with regard to power loss is the round section, since it has the minimum perimeter (at equal areas) to resist inducted flow. For engines which have to provide a smooth modulation of power, we use generally carburetors with a venturi having an extended shape section, called "oval" or even a more complex shape such as the one Dell'Orto engineers called "badge (shield)" and which represents an evolution of the concept of the oval section venturi.

As we have seen, a small diameter venturi improves the engine's responsiveness, since it keeps the flow velocity high. An oval venturi presents a smaller section, because it has a reduced diameter when the throttle valve is lifted slightly. At small openings, then, the carburetor behaves as it had a reduced diameter. This provides a good solution to transient operation and wide power range, and gives a good relationship of proportionality between the driver's action and response in terms of delivery from the carburetor.

 

When the throttle opening increases, the shape of the venturi section recovers the area necessary to aspirate the flow without introducing any high fluidynamic resistance. The badge (shield) venturi has a triangular shape at small throttle openings, and therefore in this region, the opening area is very reduced, to enhance the features of response which are necessary on some kinds of engines with automatic transmissions.

THROTTLE VALVE:

In traditional non-vacuum carburetors, this is the adjustment component connected to the accelerator by means of a flexible cable. This valve slides transversely to the venturi determining the effective area of the flow passage. In different carburetor models (such as Dell'Orto series PH, where P means "Piston" referring to the valve, and H means "Horizontal" referring to the channel orientation), the valve is a cylindrical element which slides with very little clearance in a seat, machined into the carburetor's body. In other versions (Dell'Orto series VH, where V means "valve") the element is plane, with driving flyers or rounded edges developed to reduce air leakage, as for example in Dell'Orto VHSD.

 

The throttle valve of "needle" carburetors has a chamfered edge (measured in tenths of mm: for example, .30) which influences the carburetion at small throttle openings. A valve with low chamfer (as above) enriches the mixture up to ¼ throttle, while if the carburetion is too rich, we can use a valve with a higher chamfer (as below). The influence of this calibration element is mainly in transient operation at small throttle openings and even limited changes (i.e. from .30 to .40) may strongly influence the delivered mixture.

 

For carburetors used in 4 stroke engines, the vacuum in aspiration, at closed position, can reach extremely high values and keep the valve pressed against its seat. In order to eliminate wear (and therefore leakage) and sticking, these components undergo surface treatments which improve the hardness of the material and operating smoothness, similar to chromed brass valves. Together with these designs, some slightly stiff return springs are used, in order to assure a positive return to the closed valve position. However, since the stiffness of the spring determines the opening effort from the driver, it's a good rule to choose valves which slide more smoothly before increasing the return spring force.

 

The valves called "plane" reduce the turbulence affecting the air flow that goes under the valve itself since this design provides a shorter impediment in the direction of the flow itself.

 

Even for this kind of valve we must carefully understand all the issues related to sealing at the closed condition, providing surfaces with chrome plating to reduce wear.

 

The advantages we gain in terms of deflection of the flow path with a reduced width valve are however counterbalanced by the need to solve the problem of location of the progression holes. These holes are needed to deliver fuel when the throttle opening changes, during the progressive transition from operation of the idle circuit to the main one and vice-versa.

These holes are machined downstream the main atomizer, but in order to work, as we will see later on, they have to be below the throttle valve edge.

 

If the valve is very tight, these holes will obviously be very close to the main atomizer (also located under the valve) making the design approach more complex. Once it has been solved, however, this design will assure the best functionality.

 

In this case, some tricks have been in this case adopted: elaborate shape venturis and automatic starting circuit, which provide for the best operation of the engine under all conditions.

 

THE IDLE CIRCUIT AND THE PROGRESSION:

Manufacture and operation of two very important systems, which allow the practical use of a carburetor for motorcycles.

 

We have seen how in a "basic" (simplified) carburetor, the fuel is drawn into the venturi from the float chamber. This occurs as a result of the vacuum created by the airflow, which passes through the venturi, drawn by the engine itself. In reality, a modern carburetor comprises more than a fuel supply system, since using only the main circuit the correct delivery of fuel could not be obtained (and therefore a correct mixture ratio) at all possible operating conditions that occur during the practical use of an engine. The working principles of each of the auxiliary systems stems from the same physical principle. The principle is that the fuel responds to a vacuum signal generated by the induction action of the engine. The auxiliary systems are, however, separated from one another, because the supplying nozzles are located in places appropriately designed into the carburetor's venturi.

 

THE IDLE CIRCUIT:

When the throttle valve is closed, or nearly completely closed, the inducted air flow which draws on the main spray nozzle is very low, and therefore is not sufficient to draw fuel from the float chamber. For this reason the carburetor is equipped with a second supply circuit which comes into play in these circumstances (at idle, precisely) allowing the engine to operate normally. If it were not for the idle circuit, the engine would stop running, even in the transition stages when the driver starts to open the throttle.

 

The idle circuit is equipped with a supply port placed immediately downstream of the throttle valve, at a point such that once the valve is closed; it experiences strong vacuum conditions and therefore is in the best condition to supply fuel from the float chamber. The duct, which leads to this port, connects with a proper jet (idle) that permits calibration of the idle fuel flow.

 

Above are two details of the supply ports of the idle and progression circuits, which can be seen slightly downstream of the main spray nozzle. We can notice how the progression port is always placed below the throttle valve and that its distance from the main nozzle depends on the shape of the valve itself (cylindrical, on the left, or flat on the right).

 

During calibration, the choice of idle jet is very important not only for the operation in this condition, but also for the engine response during transitions, since even the progression stage is affected by the idle jet, in addition to the other calibration elements such as the chamfer of the throttle valve or the needle nozzle fit, and when present, the small milling performed on the edge downstream of the valve, or even the projection (the engineers call it "stake"), that projects in this same area, whose functions are explained in the relevant pictures.

 

PROPER SELECTION OF THE IDLE JET:

Generally, if the selected idle jet is too big, the engine may tend to stall and responds to the accelerator slowly with a deaf and feeble sound, usually overcome by closing the throttle temporarily. If, on the contrary, the jet is too small, the engine responds better to the accelerator (except when it stalls when the jet is much too small), but when the throttle is closed, the speed (rpm) doesn't decrease immediately, and the speed remains high for few seconds before settling down to idle. Installation of an idle jet that is too small on a two stroke engine can be dangerous since there is the risk of engine seizure during throttle closing, especially when the engine has run at wide open throttle for a long time. Under these conditions, when the throttle closes, the engine keeps on running at high speed and therefore if the idle circuit creates too lean a mixture, the thermal load due to the overly lean combustion presents the risk of damage the engine from overheating and subsequent seizure.

 

Two possible locations for the idle jets are shown. The calibration element can be single and machined into the emulsion tube, or it can be formed by two separated elements, where the second is the emulsion tube, or an emulsion jet that works in series with the first one to keep a higher quantity of liquid on the calibrated passage.

 

THE EMULSION AIR CIRCUIT:

The fuel supplied by the idle circuit is mixed with a small quantity of air (thanks to a diffuser expressly placed for that purpose) that flows into the fuel passage (liquid) from the idle air channel. From there, the passage leads to the progression port.

 

The illustration of the idle circuit of a Dell'Orto VHSB carburetor, with the air adjustment by means of a screw. In the section we note the progression passage immediately below the throttle valve.

 

This progression port is placed upstream of the rear edge of the valve, just before the idle port (with respect to the direction of the airflow in the diffuser). When the idle circuit is working, a small quantity of air is inducted by this port, and bypasses the valve (which is quite completely closed) and mixes with the fuel supplied by the jet. As the valve lifts, the contribution of this element decreases as far as the idle circuit is concerned, while it becomes important for the progression circuit. The other air flow comes directly from the carburetor's mouth where it's previously controlled by a calibrated passage that, in some models, can be removable and takes the shape of an actual jet, sometimes called "idle air break".

 

THE IDLE AIR AND MIXTURE ADJUSTMENT SCREWS:

The fine adjustment, while setting up, is done by means of the idle air screw with a conical tip that modulates the passage in the idle air channel. Some carburetor models are, on the contrary, equipped with a mixture adjusting screw which intervenes on the fuel and airflow already emulsified and directed to the delivery port. As the idle air screw adjusts only the air, while the mixture adjustment acts on the fuel flow, we have to operate them in the opposite manner according how the carburetor is equipped. To enrich we have to close the air screw (by closing the airflow) or open the mixture screw. To lean the mixture, one has to open the air screw or close the mixture screw. The elements are easily recognizable on the carburetor since the air adjustment screw is placed by the front plug, which connects to the filter, while the mixture screw is placed on the side towards the engine.

 

Here above we see two of the same model of carburetors, but with two different idle circuit adjustment systems. The one on the right is equipped with an air adjustment screw, while the one on the left has a mixture adjustment screw, recognizable because it is placed on the engine side and on other carburetors with the mixture adjustment screw placed soon before the engine sleeve connection.

 

TRANSITION CIRCUIT:

When the driver starts to open the accelerator, the throttle valve lifts and therefore decreases the vacuum that in the closed condition, activated the idle circuit. The delivery of fuel from the idle circuit is reduced, and therefore it is necessary to introduce another system, which is able to handle the transition of functions from the idle circuit to the main circuit.

 

We described above the progression system as far as the idle air contribution is concerned. When the valve is lifted slightly (up to about 1/4 throttle) the vacuum generated by the inducted airflow begins to be consistent, and stops drawing fuel from the idle nozzle.

 

Under these conditions, the vacuum is sufficient; however, to draw fuel from the progression port, which is always fed by the idle jet placed in the float chamber. It's clear then, how the progression port is traversed first by air that goes towards the idle circuit, and later, while the throttle is opened partially, is traversed in the opposite direction by a fuel flow (or better, of air/fuel emulsion coming from the idle circuit). This explains the importance of the idle jet, even in the first stages of throttle opening. The position of the progression port, between the main and idle nozzles, is very important for the correct operation of the carburetor and is the subject of careful development.

THE MAIN CIRCUIT:

Operation layout and guideline for setting the main delivery system of the carburetor.

Modern carburetors used on motorcycle engines are defined as "needle type"due to the mechanical configuration of the main delivery system. The tapered needle assures the correct mixture ratio for all operating conditions of the engine corresponding to openings of the accelerator from 1/4 up to wide open throttle.

 

THE TAPERED METERING ROD:

As usual, the fuel is drawn into the venturi from the vacuum generated by the induced airflow, but from the moment that the throttle valve closes, the same vacuum changes within very wide limits. For small throttle openings the engine vacuum level is generally higher than when the valve is partially or fully lifted and subsequently, the fuel delivery from the nozzle of the main circuit changes proportionally. By responding only to the vacuum signal, a main circuit comprised of only the nozzle would deliver a lot of fuel at small and intermediate throttle openings, maintaining rich mixture strength. At large openings, the delivery would decrease at the worst time, risking engine damage from a lean mixture.

 

The basic calibration elements of a carburetor:

 

A: Throttle valve;

B: Float;

C: Atomizer;

D: Main Jet;

E: Idle Jet;

F: Tapered Needle;

G: Starter Jet.

 

That is why the system with a conical needle has been adopted, with a configuration well known to everyone and clearly visible in the illustrations. The needle runs inside the metering section of the atomizer, and when the valve is lifted only slightly, the passage available for the fuel is small. As a result, in spite of the high vacuum, the delivery is low and therefore the mixture ratio is generally correct.

 

At wide throttle openings, the smaller diameter conical part of the needle reaches the atomizer and therefore increases the passage area. It is true that the vacuum, within certain limits, is decreased but the increase in the available area of the fuel metering passage keeps the mixture ratio at optimum value and, therefore, the engine is able to run properly all throttle openings. Once the operating principle is clear, it becomes simple to understand the adjustment of the conical needle system, which involves two adjustment elements; the needle itself and the calibrated section of the atomizer.

 

In carburetors the needle is fixed in the valve by means of a spring clip which engages in one of the notches on the rod. Conventionally, the notches are numbered starting from the top.

 

Above, the group of main and starting jets inside the float chamber. We can note the baffle that keeps fuel in the chamber of the main jet even when the motorcycle is subjected to acceleration that would tend to move the liquid mass in the float chamber.

 

Attaching the clip in the higher notches, the needle (relative to the atomizer) is lower; meaning that to reach the conical area, the valve has to be lifted more. Conversely, if we wish to introduce the arrival of the conical zone earlier in the throttle's travel, we have to lift the needle, attaching the clip to the lower notches(second, third and so on).Practically, if at equal opening of the accelerator there is the need to lean the mixture, we have to lower the needle moving the clip towards the top, while if the engine has carburetion which is too rich (slowness in reaching the correct r.p.m. and dull and deep sound) we have to lower the needle, placing the clip in the higher notches. The variables introduced from the shape of the needle, (meaning its taper ratio and the length of its conical section) are absolutely essential for the carburetion calibration since they have a strong influence on the general response of the engine. Very often, however, it is not possible to correctly adjust the carburetor by modifying only the needle position and, therefore, it becomes necessary to replace it with another part with different features. For each family of carburetors.

 

Two photos of the 4-stroke atomizer: Above, the atomizer mounted inside the nozzle that keeps it in the carburetor's body; right side some atomizers (all having the same shape and diameter of the calibrated hole, but with different drilling of the tube.

 

It has a wide range of conical needles with different dimensions as we can see in the attached table. According to the needs which may arise during adjustment, we select the necessary needles and proceed with testing. If, for example, we can not manage to get sufficient enrichment in a certain area by lifting the needle to its highest position, it's clear that we will have to install one with the same taper (it's always better to introduce just one variable at a time) but with the conical part starting higher on the rod. Different needles are installed having a conical area with different tapers to better match the needs of various engines.

 

THE METERING ROD AND ATOMIZER:

The atomizer end closest to the venturi contains the calibrated diameter. This component is available in various dimensions. By increasing the atomizer's diameter, the mixture is enriched, while it will be the contrary when the diameter is decreased. Obviously we can get the same effect by changing the calibrated diameter the conical needle, at the expense of some other of its features. Sometimes a needle with the appropriate diameter in the conical area is not readily Available. In this case it's much easier, once the need has been established, to replace the atomizer, even though Dell'Orto carburetors are supplied with calibrations already optimized according to the category of the engine where they will be used. The calibrations will probably an adjustment of the jets, the position, and eventually of the conical needle type while, generally, the atomizer and the valve chamfer don't require any change even though spare parts are available for most models.

 

THE ATOMIZER AND ITS EMULSION HOLES:

The atomizer, in its simplest shape, is a tube that connects the main jet to the venturi. For this element there are two possible configurations that, traditionally, the engineers call "two stroke type" or "four stroke type”. Some have with a series of holes placed along the whole area and in communication with the main circuit channel (four-stroke type).

 

ATOMIZER DESIGN FOR TWOSTROKES:

The atomizer is screwed into the delivery nozzle fitted in the carburetor's body. As we can see in the illustration, the edge of the tube projects inside an annular chamber opens to the venture and at the same time in communication with the air intake by means of the main area channel.

Due to the vacuum in the venture then, from the atomizer tube the liquid fuel is drawn, metered by the main jet and by the conical needle, while certain airflow is delivered from the channel, going into the annular chamber.

 

The main circuit is also supplied with air that goes to emulsify the fuel in the atomizer (four-stroke) or in the nozzle (two-stroke). The main emulsification air intake is usually placed in the main plug on the carburetor's mouth, as we see in this picture. The second hole is for idle emulsion air.

 

In this area air and fuel are mixed together forming a finely atomized spray inducted by the engine. In addition to the atomizer's hole diameter, the variables are therefore the diameter of the air channel (by increasing it, the mixture leans), the height of the atomizer's side that projects in the chamber and the "step" of the delivery nozzle that projects into the venturi. Let's start with the atomizer. Under the same conditions, if the edge is short, the fuel has to travel a shorter distance from the float chamber and therefore the delivery will be more immediate.

 

The "low" atomizer is as a matter of fact a typical feature of competition motorcycle carburetors. If, vice versa, the atomizer is high, the mixture will be leaner in acceleration. The same is true for the step in the venturi. This creates an impediment to the airflow inducted by the engine and therefore downstream of it there is a strong vacuum area, which activates the delivery of the circuit. By increasing the step, such vacuum increases and therefore the mixture enriches, while using a carburetor with a lower step, we can get leaner deliveries.

 

ATOMIZER DESIGN FOR FOURSTROKES:

This system is presently widely used in two stroke engines, since it permits leaner and better-controlled mixtures under all conditions. The atomizer tube is equipped with a series of holes and the annular chamber that surrounds it is always in communication with the main area, but not in direct communication with the venturi.

 

The air is then mixed together with the liquid fuel and the emulsion is done inside the tube, before the mixture reaches the nozzle in the venturi, which for this reason has no steps.

The arrangement of the holes and their diameter influences the delivery. Holes machined in the lower part of the atomizer are bathed in the fuel of the float chamber, while the holes in the upper part are exposed to the air.

Subsequently, by working with the variables of the drilling one can manage to optimize the mixture ratio under all conditions. When the upper drilling is preferred, the mixture is made leaner, while if we increase the number and/or the diameter of the lower holes, the flow of fuel increases and goes to emulsify itself with the air.

The drilling even influences the transition in acceleration, since by placing the holes at a different height, the annular chamber is full of fuel at the start of a transition, and empties when the speed increases due to the liquid drawn through the same holes. In this way, the delivery starts with a very rich mixture and then becomes leaner.

 

THE MAIN JET:

The basic element of the carburetor's adjustment, at full power and for wide throttle openings, is the main jet, which controls the calibration of fuel delivered from the main system.

The main jet is mounted in the lowest part of the float chamber to ensure that it is always covered with liquid, even when the motorcycle makes excessive maneuvers. In many cases, to ensure the presence of liquid fuel, a perforated baffle is installed that keeps a proper quantity of liquid fuel around the jet.

The choice of main jet has a strong influence on the performance of the engine and is selected experimentally. It's therefore better to start by mounting a larger jet with respect to the engine requirements to work safely. A rich carburetion doesn't produce the best performance, but at least there is no risk of damage the engine by performing tests with overly lean carburetion (seizure or piston drilling).

We proceed by attempts, performing bench tests and/or acceleration tests.

 

To eliminate the influence of pressure pulses present in the filter box, sometimes the main emulsion air inlet is drawn from the outside by means of a connection in which we see the feed tube on the right of the carburetor. In this case the hole in the air intake is plugged.

 

After a run at wide-open throttle at maximum rpm the spark plug appearance can help to determine the best calibration choice. The insulator of the central electrode must be light brown. If it's darker, the jet is too big, if it's clear, quite white; the jet is too small. To "read" the central insulator, the spark plug must have run for a long time, while examining the ground electrode it's possible to work with a new spark plug. The root of the electrode towards the spark plug housing should be at least half-black next to the bend in the electrode itself; the rest should be a natural metal color.

 

If the ground electrode is all black and sooty, the carburetion is rich, while on the contrary if we find it perfectly clean, the main jet is too small with the risk of heavy damage to the engine. After having chosen the proper jet, if we are not using a competition motorcycle, it's better to increase the jet by two or three sizes as a precaution and for protection in case of possible calibration drift induced, for example, by temperature changes.

 

When we use very big jets, it's better to check with a simple calculation that the passage area of the jets doesn't become smaller than the one (of an annulus) created by the tip of the conical needle inside the atomizer.

 

The following relationship must occur so that the main jet is always in control of the fuel supply. We have to remember, however, that this jet has an important role in acceleration, when the driver suddenly opens the throttle and the main circuit (needle and well of the atomizer) must start working quickly. The fuel that feeds the system, as a matter of fact, is calibrated from the main jet. At this moment, what is called "lean peak" occurs, meaning that in the first moment of throttle opening the carburetion leans, to return soon after to the optimal value (rich) necessary for the operation of the engine.

 

THE CARBURETOR: THE ADDITIONAL SYSTEMS:

As stated in the previous article, a carburetor would be able to run perfectly if it had only the idle, progression and main circuits, since the fuel delivery would be properly proportioned to all the engine's requirements. What is missing from these features, however, is the cold starting stage, when thermal conditions make it necessary to provide a richer mixture than the usual one, delivered by an appropriate circuit called the starting circuit or starter device. All carburetors have it, except for some particular models used on competition motorcycles where the starting procedure is something special. Additionally, specific delivery systems have been developed for other needs, in order to allow a correct response to the peculiar features of some types of engines: we have therefore acceleration pumps for some 4 stroke engines and a power jet for some 2 stroke engine

 

THE STARTER DEVICE:

 

Illustration of the starting circuit of a Dell'Orto VHSB carburetor: the circuit is opened and closed by a valve 16 actuated by means of lever 17; the fuel is delivered in channel 14 from the nozzle 15, after emulsification with air coming from channel 11 inside the atomizer 13. The starting jet is n° 12.

When the engine is cold and the outside air temperature is rather low, some of the air/fuel spray delivered by the carburetor nozzles does not reach the thermal unit (combustion chamber), since part of it condenses and settles on the cold walls of the aspiration channel. For this reason, the effective mixture strength that feeds the engine is often too lean and therefore there might be some combustion problems that cause starting difficulties (the engine doesn't start) or in the best cases, operating irregularities and bad drivability, until the engine warms up to a normal operating temperature.

 

The carburetors are equipped with a starting circuit, completely separated from an operating point of view from the other delivery systems, and designed to correctly enrich the mixture. This is provided in order to allow that even if part of the fuel from the other circuits doesn't reach the engine, the addition of fuel from the starting circuit is sufficient for starting, and for maintaining regular operation in the first minutes of running.

 

The simplest system is the manual rich mixture control, sometimes called "primer" or "mixer" and currently used only occasionally because more refined configurations are available. The mixer consists of a switch, or lever, that allows the driver to manually lower the float in the float chamber, thereby raising the fuel level. As a consequence, the carburetion is enriched under all conditions and then it may be returned to the normal position after the engine has been started. Since this system requires the operator to control the mixer, the efficiency of the system is dependent on the driver's experience and, in addition, the carburetor must be physically accessible on the motorcycle.

 

On the left, the starting system with automatic starter is shown. The fuel drawn by the jet 10 mixes with the air coming from the channel 6, inside of the emulsion tube 9 and reaches the channel 8 controlled by the valve with the conical needle 7, linked up to the electric actuator. On the right, in a section of the Dell'Orto automatic starter we see an electrical winding that warms the thermally sensitive element that then gradually closes the needle of the circuit. Below, a starting jet that incorporates an emulsion tube, where the air passes through holes placed near the threads.

 

There are more refined and functional starter circuits equipped with their own channel, with a jet and with a flow control device. These can be a small piston valve manually actuated by the driver (directly, or through a flexible cable) or can be controlled automatically by an electric actuator by means of a thermo Sensitive element. These actuators are called "wax motors" due to the heating of wax produced by an electric circuit.

The wax expands when heated, moving the valve of the starter circuit since thermal expansion is a function of the initial temperature, it's clear how the adjustment of these circuits is completely automatic and adapts itself to the temperature at which the engine is started, and to the rate at which the engine warms up once operating.

 

Whether the valve is opened or closed, and controlled by an automatic system or not, the system operation is analogous, with a specific jet adapted to calibrate the level of the enrichment mixture.

 

The acceleration pump fitted on a PHF carburetor and below, the same disassembled: we see the actual diaphragm pump and the lever system that is actuated by the inclined profile (cam) introduced in the Valve.

 

THE VACUUM CARBURETOR:

The operating principles and the constructive aspects of the fuel supply system, universally widespread on 4 stroke engines. This kind of carburetor is called "constant vacuum" but that does not mean that the absolute vacuum is really constant. The modulation problem of the carburetor, meaning the response of the engine which is function of the throttle opening, is constrained as a matter of fact to the vacuum value which controls aspiration of fuel from the main circuit. In a traditional carburetor, when the throttle opens wide quickly (without "following" the engine progression with the throttle opening) the venturi area increases suddenly. At the same time, the rate of flow induced by the engine has not increased proportionally, since the engine rpm does not increase as quickly. By increasing the area exposed to a virtually constant rate of flow, the flow speed decreases and therefore the pressure increases. That is why the vacuum signal on the fuel circuit is missing, the signal which is needed to draw fuel past the atomizer in increasing quantities necessary to feed the engine. The result is that this vacuum signal is weak or is missing so that we must often return to part throttle to get a decent progression. With the vacuum carburetor we have two elements to adjust the rate of flow: the throttle valve, of automotive type, driven by the driver, and the traditional piston valve, with conical needle actuated by the vacuum system. This valve is connected to a vacuum chamber by means of a flexible diaphragm. The vacuum chamber is connected by one or more passages with the narrow section of the venturi, under the piston valve.

 

Three views of the Dell'Orto vacuum carburetor: we can see the piston accelerator pump assembled in the float chamber and the automatic starting system with the compact type actuator shorter than the traditional ones

 

This is the area where the vacuum needed to draw fuel through the nozzle is generated. In our case the vacuum communicates with the is the area where the vacuum needed to draw fuel through the nozzle is generated. In our case the vacuum communicates with the chamber which oversees the valve through a passage. The lower part of the chamber is exposed to atmospheric pressure because it's connected to the air intake of the carburetor. The venturi vacuum pulls the valve towards the top by overcoming the contrast spring. This spring becomes an adjustment component, just as the diameter of the holes of the valve's vacuum intake which influence the transient response of the piston valve. As the vacuum increases, the piston valve will be lifted higher.

At partial throttle and closed throttle, the vacuum under the piston valve is low and therefore the valve is lifted only slightly. When the throttle opens wide, the speed of the inducted flow increases and the valve starts to lift proportionally. If the throttle is suddenly wide-open, the guillotine doesn't lift equally, but follows on its own the effective progression of the engine, making it independent of the driver's action. With this device the engine is always fed always with an optimum rate of flow, because the same aspiration signal actuates the fuel circuit and modulates the power.

 

CONCLUSION

 

While working on this project we came across details of Simple Carburetor. The study and analysis of the Simple Carburetor has enriched us with a vital experience, the outcome of which has raised the skillfulness and self confidence regarding carburetor of any such type in future.

 

Never the less the analysis of this carburetor enriched is with the technique of operation of different designing skills. The study and analysis process helped us to gain experience through carburetion related activities

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Izecubez has already sent me his list of items via PM including the amount payable converted to SGD.

 

Anyone else wants to tompang their order?

 

I will be ordering for myself:

 

- 2 x Dellorto 34mm VHSB Carburetor

- 34mm Carburetor Inlet Manifold

- Fuel Pipe

- Fuel Pipe Quick Connector

- Swivel Gear Lever

- HPI Dual Curve Remappable CDI

- HPI CDI Software and Lead

 

From Dellorto, am getting an a 70 degree elbow for my throttle cable for smoother and more accurate feel - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/lacrimosae/Aprilia/cableelbows.jpg

 

Please PM me your list of items and include the total price including the converted amount to SGD.

 

Items will not be ordered unless paid for in full cash in advance. You will also need to pay a little extra during collection of items to defray the shipping costs.

 

Deadline to make full payment to me is 4 September.

 

I will place the order and make online payment on 8 September.

 

I will only be in Singapore on the abovementioned dates.

 

Any of this item improve the performance of the bike?

 

Learning to tune a carb isn't easy, but you have to start somewhere. I started by reading as much as I could.

 

Below is a cached document on carbs. Some diagrams and certain information are missing, but otherwise, a very concise explanation on the basic functions of our most important component on our bikes - the beloved carbie :)

 

Those interested in tuning, read this first.

 

CARBURETOR

 

HISTORY AND DEVELOPMENT:

The carburetor was invented by Karl Benz in 1885 and patented in 1886. It was apparently also invented by the Hungarian engineers Janos Csonka and Donát Bánki in 1893. Frederick William Lanchester of Birmingham, England experimented early on with the wick carburetor in cars. In 1896 Frederick and his brother built the first petrol driven car in England, a single cylinder 5 hp (4 kW) internal combustion engine with chain drive. Unhappy with the performance and power, they re-built the engine the next year into a two cylinder horizontally opposed version using his new wick carburetor design. This version completed a 1,000 mile (1600 km) tour in 1900 successfully incorporating the carburetor as an important step forward in automotive engineering.

Carburetors were the usual fuel delivery method for almost all gasoline (petrol)-fuelled engines up until the late 1980s, when fuel injection became the preferred method of automotive fuel delivery. In the U.S. market, the last carbureted car was the 1991 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor equipped with the 351 in³ (5.8 L) engine, and the last carbureted light truck was the 1994 Isuzu. Elsewhere, Lada cars used carburetors until 1996. A majority of motorcycles still utilize carburetors due to lower cost and throttle response problems with early injection set ups, but as of 2005, many new models are now being introduced with fuel injection. Carburetors are still found in small engines and in older or specialized automobiles, such as those designed for stock car racing.

 

BASIC PRINCIPLES:

Otto cycle engines used to power both two and four stroke motorcycles are fed with fuel (normal gasoline, special gasolines for some competition needs or, in some uncommon cases, methyl and/or ethyl alcohol), which is sufficiently volatile and has ignition properties which allow it to be premixed with the combustion air before the combustion is initiated by the spark plug. On the other hand, in Diesel cycle engines, the fuel is less volatile and has ignition properties which require that it be mixed with air only inside the combustion chamber, where the pressure and temperature conditions are such to induce natural ignition. For this reason, the power delivery of diesel engines may be adjusted by fuel delivery alone, without the need to control the airflow. In Otto cycle engines, when the fuel is pre-mixed with the air, it is necessary to control the airflow and therefore, indirectly, the fuel flow. In automobile engines, fuel injection systems are used in most models, controlled by a central unit that adjusts the duration of time during which the injectors remain open to deliver fuel into the air stream. As everyone knows, analogous systems have been adopted on some high range motorcycle engines. In most cases, however, carburetors are widely used, where the fuel is introduced according to the vacuum generated on various systems of fuel jets. The carburetor is therefore designed to perform three basic functions:

1. To control the power delivered by the engine, adjusting the airflow inducted according to driver demand.

2. To meter the fuel flow into the inducted air stream, while keeping the air/fuel ratio in the optimum range over the engine's entire working range.

3. To homogenize the air and fuel mixture in order to make the ignition and combustion proceed properly.

 

The main components of a motorcycle carburetor are:

1. starting lever;

2. air intake;

3. venturi;

4.starter jet;

5. float chamber;

6. atomizer;

7. fuel valve;

8. needle;

9. throttle valve;

10. float chamber air intake;

II. fuel connection;

12. Idle mixture adjusting screw;

13. throttle valve adjusting screw;

14. float;

15. idle emulsion tube,

16.idle jet;

17. main jet.

 

This is the sequence of the gasoline delivery in the inducted airflow: the fuel inside the float chamber rises in the atomizer, going through the jet which adjusts the delivery together with the needle ; the liquid is emulsified first with the air arriving from the channel inside the nozzle then going into the venturi it mixes with the air coming from the intake.

 

THE MIXTURE RATIO:

The air/fuel ratio (A/F) is the ratio between the air and fuel mass inducted by the engine. It is defined

as: A/F = Mair/Mfuel If we consider this ratio from a chemical point of view, the value of the stoichiometric A/F ratio is the one that allows complete combustion, without leaving either excess air (lean mixtures) or unburned fuel (rich mixtures)

 

Stoichiometric A/F:

The stoichiometric A/F ratio depends on the fuel type. For commercial gasoline this varies from about 14.5 to 14.8, meaning that 14.5- 14.8 pounds of air are needed for the complete combustion of 1 the fuel mixes with the air inducted by the engine by means of different circuits according to the throttle opening.

 

Here above on the left hand side, we can see the operation at idle, with the liquid that is metered by the jet (18) and arrives in the fuel trap (22) before it emulsifies with the air arriving from the channel (16) and adjusted by the screw (17). This emulsion goes under the throttle valve (12) and into the aspiration channel (13) from the ports (19 and 20). On the right hand side, the same carburetor at wide open throttle with the fuel flow adjusted by the main jet (28) that it emulsifies with the air (24) in the atomizer (27) before exiting from the nozzle (26).

 

A modern needle type carburetor (Dell'Orto VHSB) is equipped with different circuits with relevant calibration jets to assure proper fuel delivery under all conditions. As we can see from the section diagram, each fuel circuit leads to the constant level float chamber Section of the fuel feed circuit in a Dell'Orto VHSB carburetor: 1. Fuel line from the tank; 2. Screen filter; 3 fuel valve seat; 4 valve needle; 5 float arm pin; 6. float holder on the arm; 7. float; 8. float driver; 9. float chamber air intake.

 

A/F ratio produced by the carburetor:

The mixture delivered by the carburetor during the engine's operation doesn't necessarily correspond to a stoichiometric A/F value. According to the engine design and its operating conditions (r.p.m. and load) a portion of the delivered fuel may not be burned because it doesn't reach the combustion chamber or because the combustion itself is not perfect. Some charge dilution can also occur from residual exhaust gas remaining in the cylinder, as well as some loss of fresh charge at the exhaust. These effects are particularly sensitive in two stroke engines. If we consider that the appropriate A/F ratio must be that of the charge taking part in the combustion, we can assert that the mixture delivered by the carburetor must be richer (A/F

 

A/F ratio requirement under different conditions:

The A/F ratio must vary within certain limits, depending on the engine operating conditions. Generally we can expect that the air/fuel mixture must be richer (A/F lower) at idle, in the acceleration mode, and at full power. On the contrary, at constant load the mixture may be lean, meaning that the A/F ratio can increase compared to the previous conditions.

 

In two stroke engines, the words "rich" and "lean" referring to the mixture, have relative value under different specific operating conditions of the engine, and the stoichiometric mixture is not often referred to, since in these engines the mixtures are always richer that stoichiometric. This may also be partially true in many fourstroke engines, but in general, these engines use leaner mixtures than two stroke engines

 

OPERATING PRINCIPLES OF THE BASIC CARBURETOR:

 

THE FUEL DELIVERY CIRCUITS:

Liquid fuel is fed to the nozzle of the carburetor venturi, and flows due to the vacuum generated by the air flowing past the venturi itself, and from airflow pulsations generated by the piston movement. The calibrated jets placed upstream of the spray nozzle itself control the fuel flow reaching the spray nozzle. Motorcycle carburetors are nearly always of the needle type and have a structural architecture as shown in the accompanying illustrations. The fuel arriving from the tank is held inside a constant level float chamber. The liquid pressure head on the various jets is relatively constant.

The difference between the float chamber fuel level and the level that the fuel must be raised to by the inducing vacuum remains constant. The float chamber level is kept constant by means of a fuel inlet valve, actuated by a float that follows free surface of the liquid in the float chamber. When the float chamber level drops, due the fuel used by the engine, the float drops and opens the valve, so that additional fuel can flow from the tank.

 

The level of the fuel and float then increases, and at a certain point, closes the valve until the sequence is repeated. The level in the float chamber is therefore a calibration element of the carburetor, since the metered fuel delivery changes with float level, and therefore affects the mixture ratio. By having a high float level, a greater fuel quantity is delivered compared to the case with a low float level, under all operating conditions and for all of the carburetor’s circuits. Adjustment of the float chamber level is affected by two elements: the weight of the float (or of the floats) and the configuration of the lever arm that connects the float with the valve. By installing a heavier float, the free surface of the float chamber liquid must rise before the float buoyancy force balances the increased weight making the float rise.

 

The result will be a higher float chamber level and a richer delivered mixture under the same conditions. On the contrary if we install a lighter float, a lower liquid level will cause sufficient buoyant force to actuate the valve and therefore the carburetor calibration will become leaner. That is why floats are classified according to their weight (printed on them) and calibration standards for their position inside the float chamber are prescribed in order to assure correct operation.

 

Carburetors can have different types of flange connections to the engine, according to their use. On the left we can see a flat flange with a seal O-ring; on the right we see a male sleeve required for mounting inside a flexible coupling.

To modify the float chamber level, if necessary and when it's not possible to change the float weight, in some cases it's possible to change the angle of the lever that operates the valve. In this way, the float closes the valve in advance (for a lower level) or later (for a higher level) at equal weight. We must note, however, that too low a level in the float chamber can result in an insufficient liquid head on the jets and therefore lead to the risk of dangerous enleanment of the delivered mixture. This can occur when the fuel moves inside the float chamber due to the accelerations the vehicle undergoes. In these cases (which mainly happen on off-road motorcycles or on the track, in the bends or under violent braking), if the level is too low, one of the jets leading to the carburetor's circuits may be temporarily exposed to air instead of liquid.

 

In some versions, special screen baffles are applied near the jets. These are called bottom traps and their purpose is to maintain the maximum liquid quantity around the jets under all possible conditions. A needle that closes on a seat, which is inserted or screwed into the carburetor's body, forms the fuel valve. The needle is equipped with a synthetic rubber element on the tip. This material is perfectly compatible with normal commercial gasoline but in the case of special fuels such as those containing alcohol, it is necessary to verify the compatibility of the fuel and the seals in order not to compromise the carburetor's functionality. Different versions of the needles are equipped with a sprung tip in the connection with the float, in order to reduce the needle's vibration induced by the motion of the liquid in the float chamber and from the motorcycle's movements.

The diameter of the needle valve is a calibration element since it determines the maximum fuel delivery rate. If the diameter is too small to accommodate the fuel quantity that the engine requires under certain conditions (generally at full load) the float chamber empties faster than it can be replenished through the needle valve! If this condition should continue for some time, the engine suffers from reduced fuel delivery due to the fact that the level in the float chamber is decreased and therefore the carburetion has become too lean.

 

THE VENTURI AND THE AIRFLOW CONTROL:

Motorcycle carburetors are mainly needle type with the air flow adjusted by means of a sliding valve that, depending on the different versions, can have a cylindrical or flat profile. Even in vacuum carburetors, also called at constant speed, we find such a valve that works together with the throttle valve actuated by the driver. We will talk about these carburetors later on due to their peculiar working features.

 

THE VENTURI:

The venturi is one of the elements that define the carburetor, since a basic dimension is the diameter of the venturi itself, generally expressed in mm.The diameter choice is strictly related to the engine requirements, which must be satisfied. For motorcycle engines, a separate carburetor feeds each cylinder; therefore the problem of flow distribution from a single carburetor to different cylinders is avoided. From a numerical point of view the critical dimensions are selected.

 

The venturi of the modern motorcycle carburetor is carefully developed to reduce disturbances in the flow around the throttle valve and its seat. On the left-hand side, we see the venturi fitted on a Dell'Orto VHSD carburetor with two thin slits where the guillotine runs to adjust the airflow. Below, left hand side the section of a VHSB carburetor where the reduced thickness of the flat throttle is emphasized. On the right is the cylindrical valve of a carburetor series PH, showing a dimension in the flow direction, higher than in the first case. In both drawings we can see, under the venturis, the passages which lead to the idle and progression circuits, which we will discuss later in this article.

According to constructive practice and from the experience accumulated on a wide range of motorcycles and engine types. The diameter determination is then made through tests on the engine. For instance, small two-stroke engines used in cycles and scooters are equipped with carburetors having a venturi with a diameter from 12 to 14mm.On 125cm3 displacement two stroke engines used in competition, we use venturis with diameters which can vary from 36 up to 40 mm and over, as is common on powerful rotary valve units used in racing. When performance is the main consideration, the venture diameter determines the resistance that the aspiration system (the carburetor's venturi is part of this system) offers to the aspirated flow.

 

Large diameter venturis obviously introduce a lower resistance than we usually have with smaller diameter venturis, therefore in order to improve the efficiency of this component, inserts inside the venturi itself are used, which eliminate steps and shape variations, while keeping the diameter value. The inserted venturis of Dell'Orto VHSB series carburetors are shown in the illustrations. On the contrary, a venturi with reduced diameter results in higher air speed at an equal flow inducted by the engine and, therefore, results in a higher vacuum signal on the nozzles which deliver the fuel.

 

Shown above are two different shapes of the venturi's opening. On the left we have the classic oval section while on the right the one called "badge (shield)" which shows a smaller area portion on the lower side, close to the small fuel ports that results in better modulation as required by some engine types. Below, a comparison between a round piston throttle valve and a plane valve, also called guillotine. In the center we have the guiding hole for the conical needle. Above, on the left: valves often have a hardened surface with chrome plating in order to assure high resistance to wear. The shape of both edges is very important to assure there is no leakage when the valve is closed. On the right is a valve introduced in the insert-venturi that is assembled in the carburetor's body (Dell'Orto VHSB) Below, the valve and spring assembly of a competition Dell'Orto VHSD carburetor. The spring is of small dimensions, but sufficient to shut off the airflow, thanks to the low friction of the sliding guillotine.

 

by the engine and, therefore, results in a higher vacuum signal on the nozzles which deliver the fuel. In some conditions and for engines that have to work over a wide range of r.p.m., such a feature can become very important, with less consideration to the need for lower resistance. On this matter we can assert that the power loss introduced by the carburetor depends, in addition to the diameter of its venturi, on its profile in the direction of the airflow. Beyond the configuration of the throttle valve area, the connections with the air intake and the area downstream of the venturi, where the carburetor connects with the aspiration channel, are very important.

 

THE SHAPE OF THE VENTURI SECTION:

 

Once the area is determined, according to the supply requirements of the engine, there are design choices to be made on the shape of the venturi section. For competition engines or engines which have to offer high performance without any particular concern regarding other operating modes, the most favorable section with regard to power loss is the round section, since it has the minimum perimeter (at equal areas) to resist inducted flow. For engines which have to provide a smooth modulation of power, we use generally carburetors with a venturi having an extended shape section, called "oval" or even a more complex shape such as the one Dell'Orto engineers called "badge (shield)" and which represents an evolution of the concept of the oval section venturi.

As we have seen, a small diameter venturi improves the engine's responsiveness, since it keeps the flow velocity high. An oval venturi presents a smaller section, because it has a reduced diameter when the throttle valve is lifted slightly. At small openings, then, the carburetor behaves as it had a reduced diameter. This provides a good solution to transient operation and wide power range, and gives a good relationship of proportionality between the driver's action and response in terms of delivery from the carburetor.

 

When the throttle opening increases, the shape of the venturi section recovers the area necessary to aspirate the flow without introducing any high fluidynamic resistance. The badge (shield) venturi has a triangular shape at small throttle openings, and therefore in this region, the opening area is very reduced, to enhance the features of response which are necessary on some kinds of engines with automatic transmissions.

THROTTLE VALVE:

In traditional non-vacuum carburetors, this is the adjustment component connected to the accelerator by means of a flexible cable. This valve slides transversely to the venturi determining the effective area of the flow passage. In different carburetor models (such as Dell'Orto series PH, where P means "Piston" referring to the valve, and H means "Horizontal" referring to the channel orientation), the valve is a cylindrical element which slides with very little clearance in a seat, machined into the carburetor's body. In other versions (Dell'Orto series VH, where V means "valve") the element is plane, with driving flyers or rounded edges developed to reduce air leakage, as for example in Dell'Orto VHSD.

 

The throttle valve of "needle" carburetors has a chamfered edge (measured in tenths of mm: for example, .30) which influences the carburetion at small throttle openings. A valve with low chamfer (as above) enriches the mixture up to ¼ throttle, while if the carburetion is too rich, we can use a valve with a higher chamfer (as below). The influence of this calibration element is mainly in transient operation at small throttle openings and even limited changes (i.e. from .30 to .40) may strongly influence the delivered mixture.

 

For carburetors used in 4 stroke engines, the vacuum in aspiration, at closed position, can reach extremely high values and keep the valve pressed against its seat. In order to eliminate wear (and therefore leakage) and sticking, these components undergo surface treatments which improve the hardness of the material and operating smoothness, similar to chromed brass valves. Together with these designs, some slightly stiff return springs are used, in order to assure a positive return to the closed valve position. However, since the stiffness of the spring determines the opening effort from the driver, it's a good rule to choose valves which slide more smoothly before increasing the return spring force.

 

The valves called "plane" reduce the turbulence affecting the air flow that goes under the valve itself since this design provides a shorter impediment in the direction of the flow itself.

 

Even for this kind of valve we must carefully understand all the issues related to sealing at the closed condition, providing surfaces with chrome plating to reduce wear.

 

The advantages we gain in terms of deflection of the flow path with a reduced width valve are however counterbalanced by the need to solve the problem of location of the progression holes. These holes are needed to deliver fuel when the throttle opening changes, during the progressive transition from operation of the idle circuit to the main one and vice-versa.

These holes are machined downstream the main atomizer, but in order to work, as we will see later on, they have to be below the throttle valve edge.

 

If the valve is very tight, these holes will obviously be very close to the main atomizer (also located under the valve) making the design approach more complex. Once it has been solved, however, this design will assure the best functionality.

 

In this case, some tricks have been in this case adopted: elaborate shape venturis and automatic starting circuit, which provide for the best operation of the engine under all conditions.

 

THE IDLE CIRCUIT AND THE PROGRESSION:

Manufacture and operation of two very important systems, which allow the practical use of a carburetor for motorcycles.

 

We have seen how in a "basic" (simplified) carburetor, the fuel is drawn into the venturi from the float chamber. This occurs as a result of the vacuum created by the airflow, which passes through the venturi, drawn by the engine itself. In reality, a modern carburetor comprises more than a fuel supply system, since using only the main circuit the correct delivery of fuel could not be obtained (and therefore a correct mixture ratio) at all possible operating conditions that occur during the practical use of an engine. The working principles of each of the auxiliary systems stems from the same physical principle. The principle is that the fuel responds to a vacuum signal generated by the induction action of the engine. The auxiliary systems are, however, separated from one another, because the supplying nozzles are located in places appropriately designed into the carburetor's venturi.

 

THE IDLE CIRCUIT:

When the throttle valve is closed, or nearly completely closed, the inducted air flow which draws on the main spray nozzle is very low, and therefore is not sufficient to draw fuel from the float chamber. For this reason the carburetor is equipped with a second supply circuit which comes into play in these circumstances (at idle, precisely) allowing the engine to operate normally. If it were not for the idle circuit, the engine would stop running, even in the transition stages when the driver starts to open the throttle.

 

The idle circuit is equipped with a supply port placed immediately downstream of the throttle valve, at a point such that once the valve is closed; it experiences strong vacuum conditions and therefore is in the best condition to supply fuel from the float chamber. The duct, which leads to this port, connects with a proper jet (idle) that permits calibration of the idle fuel flow.

 

Above are two details of the supply ports of the idle and progression circuits, which can be seen slightly downstream of the main spray nozzle. We can notice how the progression port is always placed below the throttle valve and that its distance from the main nozzle depends on the shape of the valve itself (cylindrical, on the left, or flat on the right).

 

During calibration, the choice of idle jet is very important not only for the operation in this condition, but also for the engine response during transitions, since even the progression stage is affected by the idle jet, in addition to the other calibration elements such as the chamfer of the throttle valve or the needle nozzle fit, and when present, the small milling performed on the edge downstream of the valve, or even the projection (the engineers call it "stake"), that projects in this same area, whose functions are explained in the relevant pictures.

 

PROPER SELECTION OF THE IDLE JET:

Generally, if the selected idle jet is too big, the engine may tend to stall and responds to the accelerator slowly with a deaf and feeble sound, usually overcome by closing the throttle temporarily. If, on the contrary, the jet is too small, the engine responds better to the accelerator (except when it stalls when the jet is much too small), but when the throttle is closed, the speed (rpm) doesn't decrease immediately, and the speed remains high for few seconds before settling down to idle. Installation of an idle jet that is too small on a two stroke engine can be dangerous since there is the risk of engine seizure during throttle closing, especially when the engine has run at wide open throttle for a long time. Under these conditions, when the throttle closes, the engine keeps on running at high speed and therefore if the idle circuit creates too lean a mixture, the thermal load due to the overly lean combustion presents the risk of damage the engine from overheating and subsequent seizure.

 

Two possible locations for the idle jets are shown. The calibration element can be single and machined into the emulsion tube, or it can be formed by two separated elements, where the second is the emulsion tube, or an emulsion jet that works in series with the first one to keep a higher quantity of liquid on the calibrated passage.

 

THE EMULSION AIR CIRCUIT:

The fuel supplied by the idle circuit is mixed with a small quantity of air (thanks to a diffuser expressly placed for that purpose) that flows into the fuel passage (liquid) from the idle air channel. From there, the passage leads to the progression port.

 

The illustration of the idle circuit of a Dell'Orto VHSB carburetor, with the air adjustment by means of a screw. In the section we note the progression passage immediately below the throttle valve.

 

This progression port is placed upstream of the rear edge of the valve, just before the idle port (with respect to the direction of the airflow in the diffuser). When the idle circuit is working, a small quantity of air is inducted by this port, and bypasses the valve (which is quite completely closed) and mixes with the fuel supplied by the jet. As the valve lifts, the contribution of this element decreases as far as the idle circuit is concerned, while it becomes important for the progression circuit. The other air flow comes directly from the carburetor's mouth where it's previously controlled by a calibrated passage that, in some models, can be removable and takes the shape of an actual jet, sometimes called "idle air break".

 

THE IDLE AIR AND MIXTURE ADJUSTMENT SCREWS:

The fine adjustment, while setting up, is done by means of the idle air screw with a conical tip that modulates the passage in the idle air channel. Some carburetor models are, on the contrary, equipped with a mixture adjusting screw which intervenes on the fuel and airflow already emulsified and directed to the delivery port. As the idle air screw adjusts only the air, while the mixture adjustment acts on the fuel flow, we have to operate them in the opposite manner according how the carburetor is equipped. To enrich we have to close the air screw (by closing the airflow) or open the mixture screw. To lean the mixture, one has to open the air screw or close the mixture screw. The elements are easily recognizable on the carburetor since the air adjustment screw is placed by the front plug, which connects to the filter, while the mixture screw is placed on the side towards the engine.

 

Here above we see two of the same model of carburetors, but with two different idle circuit adjustment systems. The one on the right is equipped with an air adjustment screw, while the one on the left has a mixture adjustment screw, recognizable because it is placed on the engine side and on other carburetors with the mixture adjustment screw placed soon before the engine sleeve connection.

 

TRANSITION CIRCUIT:

When the driver starts to open the accelerator, the throttle valve lifts and therefore decreases the vacuum that in the closed condition, activated the idle circuit. The delivery of fuel from the idle circuit is reduced, and therefore it is necessary to introduce another system, which is able to handle the transition of functions from the idle circuit to the main circuit.

 

We described above the progression system as far as the idle air contribution is concerned. When the valve is lifted slightly (up to about 1/4 throttle) the vacuum generated by the inducted airflow begins to be consistent, and stops drawing fuel from the idle nozzle.

 

Under these conditions, the vacuum is sufficient; however, to draw fuel from the progression port, which is always fed by the idle jet placed in the float chamber. It's clear then, how the progression port is traversed first by air that goes towards the idle circuit, and later, while the throttle is opened partially, is traversed in the opposite direction by a fuel flow (or better, of air/fuel emulsion coming from the idle circuit). This explains the importance of the idle jet, even in the first stages of throttle opening. The position of the progression port, between the main and idle nozzles, is very important for the correct operation of the carburetor and is the subject of careful development.

THE MAIN CIRCUIT:

Operation layout and guideline for setting the main delivery system of the carburetor.

Modern carburetors used on motorcycle engines are defined as "needle type"due to the mechanical configuration of the main delivery system. The tapered needle assures the correct mixture ratio for all operating conditions of the engine corresponding to openings of the accelerator from 1/4 up to wide open throttle.

 

THE TAPERED METERING ROD:

As usual, the fuel is drawn into the venturi from the vacuum generated by the induced airflow, but from the moment that the throttle valve closes, the same vacuum changes within very wide limits. For small throttle openings the engine vacuum level is generally higher than when the valve is partially or fully lifted and subsequently, the fuel delivery from the nozzle of the main circuit changes proportionally. By responding only to the vacuum signal, a main circuit comprised of only the nozzle would deliver a lot of fuel at small and intermediate throttle openings, maintaining rich mixture strength. At large openings, the delivery would decrease at the worst time, risking engine damage from a lean mixture.

 

The basic calibration elements of a carburetor:

 

A: Throttle valve;

B: Float;

C: Atomizer;

D: Main Jet;

E: Idle Jet;

F: Tapered Needle;

G: Starter Jet.

 

That is why the system with a conical needle has been adopted, with a configuration well known to everyone and clearly visible in the illustrations. The needle runs inside the metering section of the atomizer, and when the valve is lifted only slightly, the passage available for the fuel is small. As a result, in spite of the high vacuum, the delivery is low and therefore the mixture ratio is generally correct.

 

At wide throttle openings, the smaller diameter conical part of the needle reaches the atomizer and therefore increases the passage area. It is true that the vacuum, within certain limits, is decreased but the increase in the available area of the fuel metering passage keeps the mixture ratio at optimum value and, therefore, the engine is able to run properly all throttle openings. Once the operating principle is clear, it becomes simple to understand the adjustment of the conical needle system, which involves two adjustment elements; the needle itself and the calibrated section of the atomizer.

 

In carburetors the needle is fixed in the valve by means of a spring clip which engages in one of the notches on the rod. Conventionally, the notches are numbered starting from the top.

 

Above, the group of main and starting jets inside the float chamber. We can note the baffle that keeps fuel in the chamber of the main jet even when the motorcycle is subjected to acceleration that would tend to move the liquid mass in the float chamber.

 

Attaching the clip in the higher notches, the needle (relative to the atomizer) is lower; meaning that to reach the conical area, the valve has to be lifted more. Conversely, if we wish to introduce the arrival of the conical zone earlier in the throttle's travel, we have to lift the needle, attaching the clip to the lower notches(second, third and so on).Practically, if at equal opening of the accelerator there is the need to lean the mixture, we have to lower the needle moving the clip towards the top, while if the engine has carburetion which is too rich (slowness in reaching the correct r.p.m. and dull and deep sound) we have to lower the needle, placing the clip in the higher notches. The variables introduced from the shape of the needle, (meaning its taper ratio and the length of its conical section) are absolutely essential for the carburetion calibration since they have a strong influence on the general response of the engine. Very often, however, it is not possible to correctly adjust the carburetor by modifying only the needle position and, therefore, it becomes necessary to replace it with another part with different features. For each family of carburetors.

 

Two photos of the 4-stroke atomizer: Above, the atomizer mounted inside the nozzle that keeps it in the carburetor's body; right side some atomizers (all having the same shape and diameter of the calibrated hole, but with different drilling of the tube.

 

It has a wide range of conical needles with different dimensions as we can see in the attached table. According to the needs which may arise during adjustment, we select the necessary needles and proceed with testing. If, for example, we can not manage to get sufficient enrichment in a certain area by lifting the needle to its highest position, it's clear that we will have to install one with the same taper (it's always better to introduce just one variable at a time) but with the conical part starting higher on the rod. Different needles are installed having a conical area with different tapers to better match the needs of various engines.

 

THE METERING ROD AND ATOMIZER:

The atomizer end closest to the venturi contains the calibrated diameter. This component is available in various dimensions. By increasing the atomizer's diameter, the mixture is enriched, while it will be the contrary when the diameter is decreased. Obviously we can get the same effect by changing the calibrated diameter the conical needle, at the expense of some other of its features. Sometimes a needle with the appropriate diameter in the conical area is not readily Available. In this case it's much easier, once the need has been established, to replace the atomizer, even though Dell'Orto carburetors are supplied with calibrations already optimized according to the category of the engine where they will be used. The calibrations will probably an adjustment of the jets, the position, and eventually of the conical needle type while, generally, the atomizer and the valve chamfer don't require any change even though spare parts are available for most models.

 

THE ATOMIZER AND ITS EMULSION HOLES:

The atomizer, in its simplest shape, is a tube that connects the main jet to the venturi. For this element there are two possible configurations that, traditionally, the engineers call "two stroke type" or "four stroke type”. Some have with a series of holes placed along the whole area and in communication with the main circuit channel (four-stroke type).

 

ATOMIZER DESIGN FOR TWOSTROKES:

The atomizer is screwed into the delivery nozzle fitted in the carburetor's body. As we can see in the illustration, the edge of the tube projects inside an annular chamber opens to the venture and at the same time in communication with the air intake by means of the main area channel.

Due to the vacuum in the venture then, from the atomizer tube the liquid fuel is drawn, metered by the main jet and by the conical needle, while certain airflow is delivered from the channel, going into the annular chamber.

 

The main circuit is also supplied with air that goes to emulsify the fuel in the atomizer (four-stroke) or in the nozzle (two-stroke). The main emulsification air intake is usually placed in the main plug on the carburetor's mouth, as we see in this picture. The second hole is for idle emulsion air.

 

In this area air and fuel are mixed together forming a finely atomized spray inducted by the engine. In addition to the atomizer's hole diameter, the variables are therefore the diameter of the air channel (by increasing it, the mixture leans), the height of the atomizer's side that projects in the chamber and the "step" of the delivery nozzle that projects into the venturi. Let's start with the atomizer. Under the same conditions, if the edge is short, the fuel has to travel a shorter distance from the float chamber and therefore the delivery will be more immediate.

 

The "low" atomizer is as a matter of fact a typical feature of competition motorcycle carburetors. If, vice versa, the atomizer is high, the mixture will be leaner in acceleration. The same is true for the step in the venturi. This creates an impediment to the airflow inducted by the engine and therefore downstream of it there is a strong vacuum area, which activates the delivery of the circuit. By increasing the step, such vacuum increases and therefore the mixture enriches, while using a carburetor with a lower step, we can get leaner deliveries.

 

ATOMIZER DESIGN FOR FOURSTROKES:

This system is presently widely used in two stroke engines, since it permits leaner and better-controlled mixtures under all conditions. The atomizer tube is equipped with a series of holes and the annular chamber that surrounds it is always in communication with the main area, but not in direct communication with the venturi.

 

The air is then mixed together with the liquid fuel and the emulsion is done inside the tube, before the mixture reaches the nozzle in the venturi, which for this reason has no steps.

The arrangement of the holes and their diameter influences the delivery. Holes machined in the lower part of the atomizer are bathed in the fuel of the float chamber, while the holes in the upper part are exposed to the air.

Subsequently, by working with the variables of the drilling one can manage to optimize the mixture ratio under all conditions. When the upper drilling is preferred, the mixture is made leaner, while if we increase the number and/or the diameter of the lower holes, the flow of fuel increases and goes to emulsify itself with the air.

The drilling even influences the transition in acceleration, since by placing the holes at a different height, the annular chamber is full of fuel at the start of a transition, and empties when the speed increases due to the liquid drawn through the same holes. In this way, the delivery starts with a very rich mixture and then becomes leaner.

 

THE MAIN JET:

The basic element of the carburetor's adjustment, at full power and for wide throttle openings, is the main jet, which controls the calibration of fuel delivered from the main system.

The main jet is mounted in the lowest part of the float chamber to ensure that it is always covered with liquid, even when the motorcycle makes excessive maneuvers. In many cases, to ensure the presence of liquid fuel, a perforated baffle is installed that keeps a proper quantity of liquid fuel around the jet.

The choice of main jet has a strong influence on the performance of the engine and is selected experimentally. It's therefore better to start by mounting a larger jet with respect to the engine requirements to work safely. A rich carburetion doesn't produce the best performance, but at least there is no risk of damage the engine by performing tests with overly lean carburetion (seizure or piston drilling).

We proceed by attempts, performing bench tests and/or acceleration tests.

 

To eliminate the influence of pressure pulses present in the filter box, sometimes the main emulsion air inlet is drawn from the outside by means of a connection in which we see the feed tube on the right of the carburetor. In this case the hole in the air intake is plugged.

 

After a run at wide-open throttle at maximum rpm the spark plug appearance can help to determine the best calibration choice. The insulator of the central electrode must be light brown. If it's darker, the jet is too big, if it's clear, quite white; the jet is too small. To "read" the central insulator, the spark plug must have run for a long time, while examining the ground electrode it's possible to work with a new spark plug. The root of the electrode towards the spark plug housing should be at least half-black next to the bend in the electrode itself; the rest should be a natural metal color.

 

If the ground electrode is all black and sooty, the carburetion is rich, while on the contrary if we find it perfectly clean, the main jet is too small with the risk of heavy damage to the engine. After having chosen the proper jet, if we are not using a competition motorcycle, it's better to increase the jet by two or three sizes as a precaution and for protection in case of possible calibration drift induced, for example, by temperature changes.

 

When we use very big jets, it's better to check with a simple calculation that the passage area of the jets doesn't become smaller than the one (of an annulus) created by the tip of the conical needle inside the atomizer.

 

The following relationship must occur so that the main jet is always in control of the fuel supply. We have to remember, however, that this jet has an important role in acceleration, when the driver suddenly opens the throttle and the main circuit (needle and well of the atomizer) must start working quickly. The fuel that feeds the system, as a matter of fact, is calibrated from the main jet. At this moment, what is called "lean peak" occurs, meaning that in the first moment of throttle opening the carburetion leans, to return soon after to the optimal value (rich) necessary for the operation of the engine.

 

THE CARBURETOR: THE ADDITIONAL SYSTEMS:

As stated in the previous article, a carburetor would be able to run perfectly if it had only the idle, progression and main circuits, since the fuel delivery would be properly proportioned to all the engine's requirements. What is missing from these features, however, is the cold starting stage, when thermal conditions make it necessary to provide a richer mixture than the usual one, delivered by an appropriate circuit called the starting circuit or starter device. All carburetors have it, except for some particular models used on competition motorcycles where the starting procedure is something special. Additionally, specific delivery systems have been developed for other needs, in order to allow a correct response to the peculiar features of some types of engines: we have therefore acceleration pumps for some 4 stroke engines and a power jet for some 2 stroke engine

 

THE STARTER DEVICE:

 

Illustration of the starting circuit of a Dell'Orto VHSB carburetor: the circuit is opened and closed by a valve 16 actuated by means of lever 17; the fuel is delivered in channel 14 from the nozzle 15, after emulsification with air coming from channel 11 inside the atomizer 13. The starting jet is n° 12.

When the engine is cold and the outside air temperature is rather low, some of the air/fuel spray delivered by the carburetor nozzles does not reach the thermal unit (combustion chamber), since part of it condenses and settles on the cold walls of the aspiration channel. For this reason, the effective mixture strength that feeds the engine is often too lean and therefore there might be some combustion problems that cause starting difficulties (the engine doesn't start) or in the best cases, operating irregularities and bad drivability, until the engine warms up to a normal operating temperature.

 

The carburetors are equipped with a starting circuit, completely separated from an operating point of view from the other delivery systems, and designed to correctly enrich the mixture. This is provided in order to allow that even if part of the fuel from the other circuits doesn't reach the engine, the addition of fuel from the starting circuit is sufficient for starting, and for maintaining regular operation in the first minutes of running.

 

The simplest system is the manual rich mixture control, sometimes called "primer" or "mixer" and currently used only occasionally because more refined configurations are available. The mixer consists of a switch, or lever, that allows the driver to manually lower the float in the float chamber, thereby raising the fuel level. As a consequence, the carburetion is enriched under all conditions and then it may be returned to the normal position after the engine has been started. Since this system requires the operator to control the mixer, the efficiency of the system is dependent on the driver's experience and, in addition, the carburetor must be physically accessible on the motorcycle.

 

On the left, the starting system with automatic starter is shown. The fuel drawn by the jet 10 mixes with the air coming from the channel 6, inside of the emulsion tube 9 and reaches the channel 8 controlled by the valve with the conical needle 7, linked up to the electric actuator. On the right, in a section of the Dell'Orto automatic starter we see an electrical winding that warms the thermally sensitive element that then gradually closes the needle of the circuit. Below, a starting jet that incorporates an emulsion tube, where the air passes through holes placed near the threads.

 

There are more refined and functional starter circuits equipped with their own channel, with a jet and with a flow control device. These can be a small piston valve manually actuated by the driver (directly, or through a flexible cable) or can be controlled automatically by an electric actuator by means of a thermo Sensitive element. These actuators are called "wax motors" due to the heating of wax produced by an electric circuit.

The wax expands when heated, moving the valve of the starter circuit since thermal expansion is a function of the initial temperature, it's clear how the adjustment of these circuits is completely automatic and adapts itself to the temperature at which the engine is started, and to the rate at which the engine warms up once operating.

 

Whether the valve is opened or closed, and controlled by an automatic system or not, the system operation is analogous, with a specific jet adapted to calibrate the level of the enrichment mixture.

 

The acceleration pump fitted on a PHF carburetor and below, the same disassembled: we see the actual diaphragm pump and the lever system that is actuated by the inclined profile (cam) introduced in the Valve.

 

THE VACUUM CARBURETOR:

The operating principles and the constructive aspects of the fuel supply system, universally widespread on 4 stroke engines. This kind of carburetor is called "constant vacuum" but that does not mean that the absolute vacuum is really constant. The modulation problem of the carburetor, meaning the response of the engine which is function of the throttle opening, is constrained as a matter of fact to the vacuum value which controls aspiration of fuel from the main circuit. In a traditional carburetor, when the throttle opens wide quickly (without "following" the engine progression with the throttle opening) the venturi area increases suddenly. At the same time, the rate of flow induced by the engine has not increased proportionally, since the engine rpm does not increase as quickly. By increasing the area exposed to a virtually constant rate of flow, the flow speed decreases and therefore the pressure increases. That is why the vacuum signal on the fuel circuit is missing, the signal which is needed to draw fuel past the atomizer in increasing quantities necessary to feed the engine. The result is that this vacuum signal is weak or is missing so that we must often return to part throttle to get a decent progression. With the vacuum carburetor we have two elements to adjust the rate of flow: the throttle valve, of automotive type, driven by the driver, and the traditional piston valve, with conical needle actuated by the vacuum system. This valve is connected to a vacuum chamber by means of a flexible diaphragm. The vacuum chamber is connected by one or more passages with the narrow section of the venturi, under the piston valve.

 

Three views of the Dell'Orto vacuum carburetor: we can see the piston accelerator pump assembled in the float chamber and the automatic starting system with the compact type actuator shorter than the traditional ones

 

This is the area where the vacuum needed to draw fuel through the nozzle is generated. In our case the vacuum communicates with the is the area where the vacuum needed to draw fuel through the nozzle is generated. In our case the vacuum communicates with the chamber which oversees the valve through a passage. The lower part of the chamber is exposed to atmospheric pressure because it's connected to the air intake of the carburetor. The venturi vacuum pulls the valve towards the top by overcoming the contrast spring. This spring becomes an adjustment component, just as the diameter of the holes of the valve's vacuum intake which influence the transient response of the piston valve. As the vacuum increases, the piston valve will be lifted higher.

At partial throttle and closed throttle, the vacuum under the piston valve is low and therefore the valve is lifted only slightly. When the throttle opens wide, the speed of the inducted flow increases and the valve starts to lift proportionally. If the throttle is suddenly wide-open, the guillotine doesn't lift equally, but follows on its own the effective progression of the engine, making it independent of the driver's action. With this device the engine is always fed always with an optimum rate of flow, because the same aspiration signal actuates the fuel circuit and modulates the power.

 

CONCLUSION

 

While working on this project we came across details of Simple Carburetor. The study and analysis of the Simple Carburetor has enriched us with a vital experience, the outcome of which has raised the skillfulness and self confidence regarding carburetor of any such type in future.

 

Never the less the analysis of this carburetor enriched is with the technique of operation of different designing skills. The study and analysis process helped us to gain experience through carburetion related activities

 

So from the article i can presume that the carb could allow the bike to have better performance?

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Okay Lawrence, from what I understand is that for a carb to give me the performance I feel is the best for my ride, I will need to get my hands on quite a number of Main Jet sizes and play around with the 3 or 5 notches(cant recall suddenly :p) on the needle. Have to test around for abit and keep checking on the spark plugs for clues if its burning nicely among other things. (Right? Wrong?)

 

So apart from the main jet and needle, what exactly is the screw on the side of the carb suppose to do? Seen 1 too many mechs dabbling with it. Is it to get the A/F mixture to an optimal setting? How do we determine what is the best or at least the optimal setting just by adjusting the screw?

 

 

Anyone with any idea may express their point of views too. :)

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Any of this item improve the performance of the bike?

 

Yes. They all do, hence the upgrade.

 

So from the article i can presume that the carb could allow the bike to have better performance?

 

You didn't read the article, did you? Read it for yourself.

 

Sorry, but there are some things that spoonfeeding will not help.

 

Somehow I can't help but think this forum is filled with illiterates. :?

 

Okay Lawrence, from what I understand is that for a carb to give me the performance I feel is the best for my ride, I will need to get my hands on quite a number of Main Jet sizes and play around with the 3 or 5 notches(cant recall suddenly :p) on the needle. Have to test around for abit and keep checking on the spark plugs for clues if its burning nicely among other things. (Right? Wrong?)

 

So apart from the main jet and needle, what exactly is the screw on the side of the carb suppose to do? Seen 1 too many mechs dabbling with it. Is it to get the A/F mixture to an optimal setting? How do we determine what is the best or at least the optimal setting just by adjusting the screw?

 

Yay, that's just the beginning. There's more to it but its a good start. Tweaking in small increments takes you one step closer to carburetion perfection. Aside from checking spark plugs (there's more to it too, you need to understand what different parts of the plug is telling you), you will need to monitor the smoke emission from your exhaust, gauge throttle response, and when your tuning is getting closer to ideal, other factors come into play, like atmospheric humidity and air temperature.

 

The screw on the side of the 28mm carb is the mixture screw, on the 34mm carb it is the air screw.

 

Both are used to fine tune the idling and transition from 0-1/4 throttle opening. Basically they DO NOT change the A/F mixture, nor make it leaner or richer during 1/2 throttle operation and above. Only quack mechanics will fiddle with the screw and claim they're changed the carburetion. To do that you will need to open your carb and change the jets, which is troublesome, time-consuming and is obviously something mechanics will want to avoid doing.

 

If you're free to meet for kopi tonight, I'll show you. :D

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haha sep! now u know right, actually we kanna con liao! woo! sob.

 

when are we going to FM aka ghost shop again? i wanna go soon! time to service. anyone wanna go?

 

i think i also kena con by my bikeshop, how come my 09 is restricted, aiya! the only place can remove the powercut is mah! after all the bad points i heard frm u guys im thinkin twice to even step in there man, any other alternatives guys other den mah?

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i think i also kena con by my bikeshop, how come my 09 is restricted, aiya! the only place can remove the powercut is mah! after all the bad points i heard frm u guys im thinkin twice to even step in there man, any other alternatives guys other den mah?

 

There is always my void deck. :angel:

 

:cheeky: :lol:

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i think i also kena con by my bikeshop, how come my 09 is restricted, aiya! the only place can remove the powercut is mah! after all the bad points i heard frm u guys im thinkin twice to even step in there man, any other alternatives guys other den mah?

 

I think you have to do it at Mah. No choice. Get it done, then go to the workshop of your preference for tuning/servicing.

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Yes. They all do, hence the upgrade.

 

 

 

You didn't read the article, did you? Read it for yourself.

 

Sorry, but there are some things that spoonfeeding will not help.

 

Somehow I can't help but think this forum is filled with illiterates. :?

 

 

 

Yay, that's just the beginning. There's more to it but its a good start. Tweaking in small increments takes you one step closer to carburetion perfection. Aside from checking spark plugs (there's more to it too, you need to understand what different parts of the plug is telling you), you will need to monitor the smoke emission from your exhaust, gauge throttle response, and when your tuning is getting closer to ideal, other factors come into play, like atmospheric humidity and air temperature.

 

The screw on the side of the 28mm carb is the mixture screw, on the 34mm carb it is the air screw.

 

Both are used to fine tune the idling and transition from 0-1/4 throttle opening. Basically they DO NOT change the A/F mixture, nor make it leaner or richer during 1/2 throttle operation and above. Only quack mechanics will fiddle with the screw and claim they're changed the carburetion. To do that you will need to open your carb and change the jets, which is troublesome, time-consuming and is obviously something mechanics will want to avoid doing.

 

If you're free to meet for kopi tonight, I'll show you. :D

 

Can meet. But Only available around 11.30pm onwards.

 

There is always my void deck. :angel:

 

:cheeky: :lol:

 

I think he meant where else to purchase the derestriction kit. Power valve, the cable, housing and stuff like that.

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There is always my void deck. :angel:

 

:cheeky: :lol:

 

mine is just restricted via the cdi, as far as i knoe cant go over abt rpm 10 n wat ah seng told me too, if theres someone who is capable of removin the powercut frm the cdi which is u... i be glad to come down on ur diy session provided im free thou...

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Oooo... Before you get a wall of sarcasm from the resident cynic, i better tell u first.. you should suit your timing to his diy session instead of him suiting to you.. Information is free only if you make it a point to go & learn.. :)

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mine is just restricted via the cdi, as far as i knoe cant go over abt rpm 10 n wat ah seng told me too, if theres someone who is capable of removin the powercut frm the cdi which is u... i be glad to come down on ur diy session provided im free thou...

 

How about getting an HPI Single Curve CDI for your RS125? :D

 

Am getting one for myself too!

 

http://www.pjme.co.uk/acatalog/Aprilia_RS125_Electrical_.html

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NIce meetup.. Learnt alot. :)

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For those who wants their RS 125 run with fire trailing at their back like ghost rider.

I recommend you to try out this mod.

This mod is for HARDCORE big balls riders only.:angel:

 

PICTURES:

 

 

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DETAILS CAN BE FOUND HERE>>>>> KICK ASS RS 125

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Wah! Engine Ice really not bad! After the overhaul at FM, Ah Seng poured for me some unknown brand green colour coolant. It raised my temp till around 80deg even on a cold night. Just now I left for work at 2pm, under a scorching sun, the temp did not go above 72 on the stock meter. Only when I entered KPE from Kallang to ECP did the temp went up to 79 deg. Pretty decent stuff. I cant wait to try it at night and see what the readout is like. :D

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