need advise from riders who skip class 2b road exp

[nyp_boy]

hi, im 20 yr old going ns next year. for transportation purpose, i got my 2b license 4 months ago but still deciding whether or not to purchase a 2b bike.

2b bikes do not give me a good impression because of the appeal and comfort when compared to class 2a/2 bikes. plus, 2b provides very limited options of bikes as we know.

therefore, i was thinking if i should hold for a little while, aquire class 2a and purchase 2a bikes like super four. that way, i can save effort of trying to get rid of e 2b bikes and get the new 2a bike. i think it will be impulsive to get e thrill of 2b bikes then having to waste e time and effort to sell it.

i wanna know if this thinking is practical or common for riders in sg. what is the consequence of skipping 2b biking experience and ride 2a bikes for a new rider?

 

another enquiry is: does 2a riders need p plate? (for e fact tt they have no riding experience but 2a is assume a rider to have 1 year experience in class 2b)

 

lastly: will that skipping process affects the insurance price?

[pyro13]

its better if u get road experience... it helps u get experience or maybe u can get a delivery job.. so that ur skills would not lag so much...wen u get a 2b bike.. u will noe how to maintaina nd keep a bike so wen u get 2a.. u can noe and instantly noe wats wrong wit d bike.. a lot of students at ssdc who are taking 2a are always encouraged t get a cheap bike and then get a 2a bike... get a cheap one aso can to gain experience.. u dunno how dangerous the road is.. btw.. u schoolin in nyp???

[amano]

Get a Pulsar....The most wonderful 2B.... Ride safe....

[Danthearcher]

Hi, personally now i am serving NS, same age as you, and riding a class 2b bike. My humble advice is just that, everything starts from the basics.. Whatever we learn in the center, is just so little we learn from all our bike experiences.. the real lessons start from the road. Since you possess a class 2b license, why not try riding a good class2b bike, if you are interested in style and speed, SP, KRR, TZM, Cagiva? ha, who says class2b lacks appeal? some bikes are class2b, and already a level above all. Its just whether you are comfortable with the bike control and stuffs.

 

Anyway, scooters like gilera, x9, waves, phantoms are very comfortable bikes compare to sportbikes. You dun need to get your brother squashed or in pain whenever you are carrying pillion;) From my experiences, the roads in sg are not a playground. Near accidents are the most scary and best way to learn.. You will need the experience on the road for 1 year to get to class 2a, as the bike is 400cc and above, better control of the bike and road experiences are needed. My advice is, get a cheap, affordable, a comfortable bike that you like, go on the road, and then go for class 2a, dont skip this valuable 1 year of experience;)

 

lastly, insurance price differs for different ages.. the younger you are, the higher you gotta pay, the older, the cheaper. Mitsul or NTUC are good insurances you can go for. If you have any frens riding class 2b bikes or class 2a, can find out more from them;)

 

Bout the P plate.. if you really intend to skip the 1 year and go straight for class 2a, you dun need to put P plate after 1 year have passed you attain your class 2b license. But as again, i advice, use this 1 year to ride and learn the basics, before going to class 2a.

[Danthearcher]

and to add, riding is a part of bike experience, learning how to take care and maintain your bike is another fudamental of your whole bike experience. Have fun and ride safetly:smile:

[nyp_boy]

Originally posted by pyro13@Sep 28 2006, 12:43 PM

its better if u get road experience... it helps u get experience or maybe u can get a delivery job.. so that ur skills would not lag so much...wen u get a 2b bike.. u will noe how to maintaina nd keep a bike so wen u get 2a.. u can noe and instantly noe wats wrong wit d bike.. a lot of students at ssdc who are taking 2a are always encouraged t get a cheap bike and then get a 2a bike... get a cheap one aso can to gain experience.. u dunno how dangerous the road is.. btw.. u schoolin in nyp???

haha, delievery job?! no thanks...but i guess its one way of gaining road experience fast.

i graduated from ssdc, and yes thats what they always tell their students. but bikes are never too cheap for full-time students like myself.

i think i will need at least $4k set aside for bike itself and e expenses that follows. besides, COE is on the rise isnt it?

yes, im schooling in nyp doing 3rd yr in biz mgmt.

thanks for the advise my friend!

[nyp_boy]

Originally posted by amano@Sep 28 2006, 01:12 PM

Get a Pulsar....The most wonderful 2B.... Ride safe....

to amano,

i suppose u are riding pulsar?

tell me more about ur experience!

[nyp_boy]

Originally posted by Danthearcher@Sep 28 2006, 01:45 PM

Hi, personally now i am serving NS, same age as you, and riding a class 2b bike. My humble advice is just that, everything starts from the basics.. Whatever we learn in the center, is just so little we learn from all our bike experiences.. the real lessons start from the road. Since you possess a class 2b license, why not try riding a good class2b bike, if you are interested in style and speed, SP, KRR, TZM, Cagiva? ha, who says class2b lacks appeal? some bikes are class2b, and already a level above all. Its just whether you are comfortable with the bike control and stuffs.

 

Anyway, scooters like gilera, x9, waves, phantoms are very comfortable bikes compare to sportbikes. You dun need to get your brother squashed or in pain whenever you are carrying pillion;) From my experiences, the roads in sg are not a playground. Near accidents are the most scary and best way to learn.. You will need the experience on the road for 1 year to get to class 2a, as the bike is 400cc and above, better control of the bike and road experiences are needed. My advice is, get a cheap, affordable, a comfortable bike that you like, go on the road, and then go for class 2a, dont skip this valuable 1 year of experience;)

 

lastly, insurance price differs for different ages.. the younger you are, the higher you gotta pay, the older, the cheaper. Mitsul or NTUC are good insurances you can go for. If you have any frens riding class 2b bikes or class 2a, can find out more from them;)

 

Bout the P plate.. if you really intend to skip the 1 year and go straight for class 2a, you dun need to put P plate after 1 year have passed you attain your class 2b license. But as again, i advice, use this 1 year to ride and learn the basics, before going to class 2a.

dan-the-archer. is that how u pronounce that? or dante-archer..hmm.

every starts from the basic, yes i agree with that statement.

but i have a belief, that since i can learnt class 2b from scratch, the same law will apply to class 2a...then when i own a class 2a bike, i can gain all the experience from there. thus, saving the cost of going through e road experience with a class 2b bike.

the bikes u mentioned(SP, KRR, TZM) are some examples that don't appeal to me. it is just something class 2a bikes have the 2b don't get to have. well, maybe except varedero? (cost a Bomb.)

 

hey since we almost have same profile, im interested in what bike you are current riding and why you would make that choice. please tell me more!

 

thanks for the interesting advise man!

:thumb:

[pyro13]

i myself am a nyp student third year.. u can support a bike anytime.. just a good economical bike like a honda wave or yamaha x1 or spark... it teaches u alot of road experience.. judging from the answer u gave.. u look down on delivery riders... y? they arwe making a honest living to me???

[ben1112]

I dont know if this has been suggested before, but maybe pyro13 u can tell us what's your bike and do a break down of how much u pay for your bike? I think that will be a very good reference point for us.

[flareon1982]

>Nyp_Boy - hello i am from NYP too currently in year 3 Financial Services. If u wan a good 2B bike. I do recommend the Varadero 125. Its stable and it is also good for beginner. Road experience is a must as there are alot of danger on the road. Esp those taxi who thinks they are king just because they driving a toyota crown... (Crown is the key word)

[nyp_boy]

Originally posted by flareon1982@Sep 28 2006, 04:34 PM

>Nyp_Boy - hello i am from NYP too currently in year 3 Financial Services. If u wan a good 2B bike. I do recommend the Varadero 125. Its stable and it is also good for beginner. Road experience is a must as there are alot of danger on the road. Esp those taxi who thinks they are king just because they driving a toyota crown... (Crown is the key word)

oh, nice to meet u here! thanks for recommending varadero. hmm, varadero is the only 2b bike that doesnt looks like it belong to its class. i think its stylin and big and comfortable. but i don't think i can afford one.

i totally agree with you on the taxi part! everyone knows how irresponsible they are! dangerous drivers lar! its always the taxi drivers who are involve in accidents in the news...no wonder sonata taxi is coming out to take over the crown.

[compfused]

Originally posted by nyp_boy@Sep 28 2006, 02:14 PM

every starts from the basic, yes i agree with that statement.

but i have a belief, that since i can learnt class 2b from scratch, the same law will apply to class 2a...then when i own a class 2a bike, i can gain all the experience from there. thus, saving the cost of going through e road experience with a class 2b bike.

the bikes u mentioned(SP, KRR, TZM) are some examples that don't appeal to me. it is just something class 2a bikes have the 2b don't get to have.

 

You will need that 1 year experience..Sure you can start 2B from scratch..Who doesn't? As you said..2A bikes and 2B bikes are different..And I agree it is..Handling will be a bit more difficult due to the weight..After slacking for 1 year do you think you can handle a bigger bike w/out any experience whatsoever on a smaller bike? Which would you rather be in? Saving the cost of going thru the road experience on a 2b bike or struggling helplessly to get through your 2a lessons?

 

The choice is yours..

[Danthearcher]

hmm since everyone is giving important advices, i think i will skip my part.. i am currently riding a cagiva mito, mk2 actually. Not the new stingray you see on the roads now, but the old bro of cagivas. About your belief bout the law allows you to ride after you get your class 2a licence, yes you are right. no one says its wrong bro.. as again, the more cc a bike has, its harder to control and heavier. Ever got a bike fall directly sideways on your leg before? i did, of my own stupidity, cause of my lock on my front brake, my bike fall sideways with my friend on it, with just class 2b bike, the bike weights so damm heavy, we have to 1 2 3 to get it up right, and to tell you, its not a fun experience with such a weight crashing on your leg. Lets talk bout a jam on CTE or PIE, if you get your experience from a class 2a bike, do you think you can contrl your bike well when there are so many cars and other bikes around? And mind you, the taxis are known for swerving in and out suddenly on your path.. my friend, do you think you can control well on a heavy class 2a bike?

 

Basics and more basics. The bike we use in driving centers are just too damm light. Maybe my cagiva is heavy, but i like it for its stability and control at high speed..

 

And, i still remember my first purpose when i wanna get my license was to pillion gals, and i did;) bro, when you have a gal hugging close to you and you are in control, the feeling's great. Once you experience then you will know. And lets not talk bout bikes, dont you think it gives you some or maybe a bit sense of achievement when you carry your helmet wherever you go? and if it doesnt appeal to you, you ask any frens, be it gal or guy, where you live, wann me to give you a ride, it gives you this shiok shiok feeling that you have a vehicle rather than taking the public transport..

 

Oh yeah, dont you think taking mrt or bus is so damm slow sometimes? Feel the wind caressing your body bro, take the basics and you will feel different;)

 

Pm me if you need anything

[skazuz]

if u wat class n style why not drive or got public instead or riding..

 

why dun u count ur ez link per day then calculate altogether for the month..its more than wat u pay for a monthly installment n petrol n maintanence for a cubs...

 

cheers

skazuz

[nyp_boy]

Originally posted by skazuz@Sep 29 2006, 02:10 AM

if u wat class n style why not drive or got public instead or riding..

 

why dun u count ur ez link per day then calculate altogether for the month..its more than wat u pay for a monthly installment n petrol n maintanence for a cubs...

 

cheers

skazuz

skazuz bro...sure not? i am now using bus concession. it cost $52 for unlimited rides for a month. how much u reckon u pay for a monthly installment n petrol n maintanence for a cubs? surely more than that.

[nyp_boy]

Originally posted by Danthearcher@Sep 28 2006, 06:08 PM

hmm since everyone is giving important advices, i think i will skip my part.. i am currently riding a cagiva mito, mk2 actually. Not the new stingray you see on the roads now, but the old bro of cagivas. About your belief bout the law allows you to ride after you get your class 2a licence, yes you are right. no one says its wrong bro.. as again, the more cc a bike has, its harder to control and heavier. Ever got a bike fall directly sideways on your leg before? i did, of my own stupidity, cause of my lock on my front brake, my bike fall sideways with my friend on it, with just class 2b bike, the bike weights so damm heavy, we have to 1 2 3 to get it up right, and to tell you, its not a fun experience with such a weight crashing on your leg. Lets talk bout a jam on CTE or PIE, if you get your experience from a class 2a bike, do you think you can contrl your bike well when there are so many cars and other bikes around? And mind you, the taxis are known for swerving in and out suddenly on your path.. my friend, do you think you can control well on a heavy class 2a bike?

 

Basics and more basics. The bike we use in driving centers are just too damm light. Maybe my cagiva is heavy, but i like it for its stability and control at high speed..

 

And, i still remember my first purpose when i wanna get my license was to pillion gals, and i did;) bro, when you have a gal hugging close to you and you are in control, the feeling's great. Once you experience then you will know. And lets not talk bout bikes, dont you think it gives you some or maybe a bit sense of achievement when you carry your helmet wherever you go? and if it doesnt appeal to you, you ask any frens, be it gal or guy, where you live, wann me to give you a ride, it gives you this shiok shiok feeling that you have a vehicle rather than taking the public transport..

 

Oh yeah, dont you think taking mrt or bus is so damm slow sometimes? Feel the wind caressing your body bro, take the basics and you will feel different;)

 

Pm me if you need anything

quoted from u 'And, i still remember my first purpose when i wanna get my license was to pillion gals, and i did;) bro, when you have a gal hugging close to you and you are in control, the feeling's great. Once you experience then you will know. And lets not talk bout bikes, dont you think it gives you some or maybe a bit sense of achievement when you carry your helmet wherever you go? ...'

 

same sendiments here bro! thats something only bikers get it drivers don't! SHOIK.

[ronald814]

I'm old NYP boy also, Ms Sandra Teo still around?

 

My own personal opinion. I don't think it is advisable for anyone to go to a bigger CC bike without 1st riding a 2B bike. Too dangerous. Its very easy to go fast but how U react in adverse condition is what would keep U alive, so it would be better for guys to learn first by riding a smaller CC bike. Get more experiences but sometimes it is up to the rider, some people are born to ride and it shows even though they have less experience.

 

Ride safe.

[josean]

u already mentioned that u wanted a bike for transportation purpose,

i dun see why u need a 2A/2 bike for that.

 

appeal and comfort for 2B bikes are definately there, although they usually dun come together.

 

in my opinion, you sound like someone who wants the power of a super 4 without having to go thru real life road experience during your 2b days.

[MaTrIx87]

bro get a cheap 2nd hand wave n ride it, u gain experience, save money, and haf transport anytime 24/7.

 

although lyk u have mentioned u have concession at $52 tink abt wad happens if u go out till after midnight? the waiting time? squeezing with people on the bus?

 

right now u can easily get a 2nd hand wave frm a shop at abt 2.4k (fw plate or a fx if lucky) on the road including insurance. monthly maintenance wise lets say nothing goes wrong to the wave jus petrol and engine oil.

 

Engine oil example 1 mnth 1 bottle - $18

Petrol lets see u juz use it as transport to n from sch maybe 3 days 1 full tank in a month its abt - $60 (roughly $6 per full tank)

 

as u can see its only slightly more den wad u're paying for concession n has a lot more benefits.

 

However be warned tt when you have ur bike u will tend to spend more reason being coz u will want to to it up make it chio chio (own backside itchy cannot blame) and u will tend to travel arnd too much coz u noe its too convenient already

 

ps. anyway not promoting for wave but juz sharing experience as i used to ride 1 myself

[flareon1982]

>Nyp_Boy> Sandra TEO IS MY PEM. U like her?? She is a ###### to start with haha.

 

About the experience on road u need to get as much as possible. People will tend to eat u when u riding a big bike and many youngster with cars will tailgate u and if u not sure what to do than jia lat liao. Varadero is not bad but ex i agree but it is stable. Maybe u can get a krr150 if u like sport bike or fr scrambler u can get XR125 or cubster a X1 will be good or cruiser, phantom will be good.

 

Make ur choice

2 cts

[mamu27]

Originally posted by nyp_boy@Sep 28 2006, 12:26 PM

lastly: will that skipping process affects the insurance price?

get an insurance advisor to do quotation.

 

go down to any NTUC Income, they can do it non-obligatory.

insurance premium is made of point system.

take note of the "points"..

eg. Age of rider:

Riding experience: 3yr = 0pt

 

certain bike manufacturer has higher points.

when these points add up, u will get ur insurance premium.

 

*ps. if u wana, i can pass u my personal NTUC insurance advisor contact no.

go down to bedok INCOME ctr, no need take Q num, etc.

just tell him in advance when u coming down.

 

also check around. sometimes NTUC may not necessarily be the cheapest premium.

[saboon]

He he.... For the thread starter, I am assuming you have some kind of driving experience in Singapore roads when you say you wanna jump straight into a Class 2A bike.

 

If you don't have any driving experience then i suggest you gain some riding experience on a 2B bike first before riding on a 2A bike.

 

If you notice a trend in your thread, there are no replies saying that they jumped straight to 2A. And no replies encouraging you to jump straight to 2A.

 

But ultimately it would be your choice.

 

Ride safe dude!

[fattsum]

you sound like a young boy who want the nicest.. fastest.. coolest.... and other ...est est ... my fren.... my advise will goes same as other forummer have told you.. ride 2b bike to fimilarise with riding on the road with diffrerent kind of traffic.... polish your skill to manouver the bike better.... learn to maintain small bike is much more cheaper and easy to do than those bigger bike... also if you waited for 1 year to get on a bike again your will feel less confidence and u have to start all over again.... anyway it ur calll... watever your decision make the wise 1... happy riding...

[Finity]

since u are goin to buy a 2a bike then dont think is wisable to buy pulsar cause it's still a new bike n not much 2nd hand around. If just for transport b4 u get a 2a bike maybe u can try kawasi[sport] or wave[transport]