Yamaha TZM 150 Riders

[h4hahak1m]

No fuel? haha.

[anante_04]

starting starting, soft running in for at least 500km... then medimum for another 500km... after that hard running 500km... my advice, use cheap petrol n 2t for the soft running in n medium... then got the part u doing hard running in, use slightly better 2t n enigine oil... after this 3 things done, full service... as in just clean your carb, block and the normal top service stuff... after that use good engine oil n 2t n your bike should be ok for the next 6mths to 1 year... after 6months to 1year, just go for a small carb service and tune, block clean and normal service... important is to clean your block after the full running in... its quite cheap actually... all done at jb... with all these, a good setting will keep your bike safe for jamming or seize...]

 

 

bro....wat the diff between soft,medium n hard running in....??

[Zai TZM]

tzm bros.... can i ask a question.... what is the problem if i was riding my m at 100km/h then suddenly the bike just died.... when try to trottle, gt no responce.... but after stop i kick start back, it resume as normal? what the problem... and what the solutions.... thanks bros... btw my name is bob a new tzm rider.... *wink*

 

setting tak betul tu...

[xXxAmiRxXx]

setting tak betul tu...

 

betul betul... maybe your pilot/air jet too big... just hope not your piston scratch n cannot go fast or maybe jam panas...

[xXxAmiRxXx]

starting starting, soft running in for at least 500km... then medimum for another 500km... after that hard running 500km... my advice, use cheap petrol n 2t for the soft running in n medium... then got the part u doing hard running in, use slightly better 2t n enigine oil... after this 3 things done, full service... as in just clean your carb, block and the normal top service stuff... after that use good engine oil n 2t n your bike should be ok for the next 6mths to 1 year... after 6months to 1year, just go for a small carb service and tune, block clean and normal service... important is to clean your block after the full running in... its quite cheap actually... all done at jb... with all these, a good setting will keep your bike safe for jamming or seize...]

 

 

bro....wat the diff between soft,medium n hard running in....??

 

well, correct me if im wrong... when just overhaul, all gears should be below 5000rpm... which is soft... then medium is when u ride, u must be below 7000rpm... if hard running in, haiya, just whack your bike to 10000rpm... i hope that answers your question...

[anante_04]

 

well, correct me if im wrong... when just overhaul, all gears should be below 5000rpm... which is soft... then medium is when u ride, u must be below 7000rpm... if hard running in, haiya, just whack your bike to 10000rpm... i hope that answers your question...

 

tak kn hard running in nk whack rpm 10 for 500km...??or im juz being stupid......hehehee.....sumone plz update my knowledge....!!

[faisaladilah]

Alo..Just curious, footrest ape bagus eh? Brakepad n brakeline ape okay okay? Dengan lastly, suspension..Thanks

[faisaladilah]

got my bike back alr .. haha .. thanks for d invite bro.. kul brape nak gi? aku masuk collect motor, kunci tank minyak tinggal kat rumah. bodoh sak! haha .. can join u guys if time permits..

 

Eh..I think, i saw your bike at jurong west st 21 tat time..at the no parking zone..blk 2++..haha..nice bike..

[sgtfallenprince]

tzm bros.... can i ask a question.... what is the problem if i was riding my m at 100km/h then suddenly the bike just died.... when try to trottle, gt no responce.... but after stop i kick start back, it resume as normal? what the problem... and what the solutions.... thanks bros... btw my name is bob a new tzm rider.... *wink*

 

eloo bro

time to change ur starter coil n sparkplug cable be4 itz 2 late

i got that once but degil tk tukar untill stuck at bke...

so pls change asap..

adios

[shaas_no1]

Eh..I think, i saw your bike at jurong west st 21 tat time..at the no parking zone..blk 2++..haha..nice bike..

 

jurong west st 21 kat mane eh? near fico issit ? haha ... i park dere almost every nite last week. went frend house to study.

 

thanks dude! klu nampak aku teguh je.

[shaas_no1]

eloo bro

time to change ur starter coil n sparkplug cable be4 itz 2 late

i got that once but degil tk tukar untill stuck at bke...

so pls change asap..

adios

 

haha .. rabak pe? but its true... u feel ur bike anything wrong just get it checked. M ade sikit manje. klu da kene 'sound' ngn motor...

 

 

jangan tunggu lama lama

nanti lama lama

motor buat perangai tengah2 road.

[xXxAmiRxXx]

 

tak kn hard running in nk whack rpm 10 for 500km...??or im juz being stupid......hehehee.....sumone plz update my knowledge....!!

 

haha, no la... what i mean by hard running in is that your rpm can just ride until 10000... does not mean u ahve to ride 500km non stop at 10000rpm... hehe... just imagine u dont have running in... just whack your bike je... although u just overhaul...

[Uday Hussein]

Why must run in for such a long mileage?

 

Metal components in automobile are designed to be within specifications and for piston and block issues, they are easily friction free after a few mins of stroke movements. This is due to their specifications and dimensions upon engineering.

 

If u see the actual manufacturing of japanese and european bikes, once the engine is assemble, they will do hard running in at the max speed,not even an 1hr and after the test passed, they suck the engine oil dry and repack for shipment.

 

For those who study mechanical and metal engineering in automobiles, im sure u will concur with me.

 

Otherwise, we tends to listen to the 80s myth by some old timers saying that we must run in for this distance and such..i say.. we are now in the advance stage of technology..no more in the 80s.

 

The actual problem is most of the 2 stroke riders tends to premix, porting and such..these are the factors tat contributes to piston seizure and poor performance..Nothing to do with running in..

 

Just my 2 cents thoughts..dont flame me..just learn to understand the engineering of automobiles. Dont just listen to what ppl say.. learn instead!

[h4hahak1m]

Yea it's true. "Soft" run ins are a thing of the past

[CoRnEr7]

fooh...

amir moto dah kuat asyik nak ajk test je...

hehehe...

[xXxAmiRxXx]

fooh...

amir moto dah kuat asyik nak ajk test je...

hehehe...

 

ish ish ish... haram haram tau kalau race race ini semua... hahaha...

[shaas_no1]

Why must run in for such a long mileage?

 

Metal components in automobile are designed to be within specifications and for piston and block issues, they are easily friction free after a few mins of stroke movements. This is due to their specifications and dimensions upon engineering.

 

If u see the actual manufacturing of japanese and european bikes, once the engine is assemble, they will do hard running in at the max speed,not even an 1hr and after the test passed, they suck the engine oil dry and repack for shipment.

 

For those who study mechanical and metal engineering in automobiles, im sure u will concur with me.

 

Otherwise, we tends to listen to the 80s myth by some old timers saying that we must run in for this distance and such..i say.. we are now in the advance stage of technology..no more in the 80s.

 

The actual problem is most of the 2 stroke riders tends to premix, porting and such..these are the factors tat contributes to piston seizure and poor performance..Nothing to do with running in..

 

Just my 2 cents thoughts..dont flame me..just learn to understand the engineering of automobiles. Dont just listen to what ppl say.. learn instead!

 

 

Hi there,

 

I do concur with your theory. To a certain extent. It is a definite, mechanically speaking, that the different components within the bike has been made to precision. The hard running in at assembly in factories is done to check and 'proof' the bike is assembled properly without any defects and ready to be sold.

 

That said, such tests within the factory serves more as quality control. This has been a requirement into the 80s and 90s by individual car and bike makers to show brand quality. The purpose of such running in is to show manufacturing quality requirements have been met.

 

In the topic of automotive engineering however, there is still a long term effect of the running in methodology. Different components within the machinery are possibly made of different materials depending on its mechanical use within the system. (E.g An engine block is made of different grade of metal and precision as compared to the piston.)

 

The term running in is used to 'gel' this different components together to provide better efficiency in the long run. The bearings within starts to work with its lubricants, the wet clutch system is properly 'wet'. The engine slowly starts to clear micro particles, invisible to the naked eye, that may have been there during assembly. The engine oil captures such particles and thus, the need to service after a significant mileage.

 

With that, all users are always encouraged to run-in their machines before actual use. Even at this day and age, a customer who just received his car is encouraged to run in before the first servicing. (now we know why they always give first servicing FREE!)

 

An F1 engine goes through a more rigorous running in at specially designed labs before it is fitted into the car. This allows racers to immediately throttle the engine without much worry of engine failure.

 

For normal road users, a certain mentality to save costs comes in. To 'play safe', they follow the running-in strictly so as to not cause any problems in the future after warranty not covered. Problems = Money.

 

Cheers

[Zai TZM]

arghh... piston jammm...... chip inside at the top part.. damn it..

[shaas_no1]

GUys,

 

My bike birthday next month. Datang la birthday presents die.. Need your wise opinions on some issues.

 

1) Inspection

 

I definitely have to send bike through a shop for inspection. moto2 gini antar sendiri tak pass kan? haha..

 

My shop quote about 30-40 duit penat. excluding inspection fee about $18 rite? any better option?

 

2) Insurance

 

My 1st year was with NTUC. now coming 2nd year they quote me $513 includin NCD n GST. any better options here too? 23/m Bike birthday = p plate throw away

 

 

Or better still, know any shop can settle everything above + road tax and worth it?

[Zai TZM]

go ownself better... save the cost ...

[shaas_no1]

go ownself better... save the cost ...

 

but can pass ar? smoke etc.

 

btw dude.. ur bike how?

[nd_danial]

GUys,

 

My bike birthday next month. Datang la birthday presents die.. Need your wise opinions on some issues.

 

1) Inspection

 

I definitely have to send bike through a shop for inspection. moto2 gini antar sendiri tak pass kan? haha..

 

My shop quote about 30-40 duit penat. excluding inspection fee about $18 rite? any better option?

 

2) Insurance

 

My 1st year was with NTUC. now coming 2nd year they quote me $513 includin NCD n GST. any better options here too? 23/m Bike birthday = p plate throw away

 

 

Or better still, know any shop can settle everything above + road tax and worth it?

 

Better to send on ur own and buy insurance directly thru agent.

 

for inspection, just make sure u meet all the requirements such as lights working, horn, tyres.. usually will pass cos its just a yearly inspection and not being caught by tp/rov and escorted for inspection. FYI my M passed inspection using ABM chamber pipe..

 

ANd for insurance, i advise better to stick to a company and collect NCD unless others are much2 cheaper. in future when u chg to a class 2 sportbike, the 30% NCD will save u alot of $$$ as class 2 insurance cost ard 1.5k+++..

 

Cheers...

[knucklehead]

read all the info about running in, getting more confused. heh~

so far, i only know that to run in the engine takes longer than to run in the piston, is that right?

 

and i heard that some shops (hkl i think) offers running in services, i dont know what it's exactly called. so is that a better alternative to run in your machine ?

 

ey. talking bout insurance, my insurance naik sia. wth~

[Vans89]

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Selling brand new SP Carb. PM me if interested xD

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[Zai TZM]

got a new piston yesterday @ planet motor... now running in... boring...