[Technical] Queries for TA150

[ahcaibiker]

oh btw wat bro mepkoh has highlighted is indeed a true proper working 2-stroke engine, what u've seen at ur mscp is a work of a mat rempit, or 'boy racer', 2t valve open big big big, when they whack the bike sure confirm plus chop no piston jam...

 

and may i bring ur attention to another thing, if hypoettically what u say is true, then why would LTA, NEA or TP even bother to book those 2 stroke bike emitting excessive amt of smoke(S$700 fine)???even by law its allowed to emit smoke???

 

nonetheless, as wat bro mepkoh has mentioned earlier, i might need to correct what he pointed out, water getting into a chamber of a stroker engine is only by fuel contamination, or 2t contamination...

 

i dunno if u know that a 2 stroke engine crankcase is only seperated from the radiator water by an only 5mm aluminium wall, and that theres a shaft travelling from the engine crankcase thru the wall which in turn drives a impeller that pumps the radiator coolant...theres a water gasket there, if its broken it'll leak water into the transmission fluid(aka engine oil) and the EO will turn cloudy like limewater reacting to carbon dioxide ( this is none related to wat u ask, but its juz a spare info)

 

Cheers!

 

1st of all, thanks for your inputs. fyi, i didint say it is normal if a bike emits too much white smoke. A 2 stroke engine obviously WILL produce white smoke, if it doesnt then the engine is in serious trouble, too much white smoke meaning 2T is too concentrated in the air fuel-mixture which is also no gd as it will leave more carbon deposits behind.

 

secondly, i not using my cert to prove i noe everything. qualification needs to be backed up by experience. that is very true, however we all know in singapore society, no paper = no future no matter how much exp u have. sure you can open a garage and workshop, run it and earn money but that's abt it. no more progress from there. experience is important so is paper qualification, paper qualification brings you progress but not neccessarily exp.

 

lastly, this thread nor this forum is not meant for flaming one another. if u do not have any beneficial info or comments, pls do keep it to yourself, im so darn tired of flaming, it's so common in most forums, think abt it. we are here to help one another not create tension.

 

Age is not an indication of maturity, it is measured thru how u carry yourself.

[SNapEl]

hey bro, i studied automotive technology back i was in ITE, i can apply for a job to be a mechanic with my cert.

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i thank you for your input but pls refrain from misleading people who don have such knowledge. No offence, thanks.

 

Well you started it

 

Anyway moving on

[madman]

ahcaibiker,

 

jus a suggestion to you. i would say it is a matter of you dun know some of the forumers here who posted in here in regards to you, jus like they dun know you.

 

words like

i studied automotive technology back i was in ITE, i can apply for a job to be a mechanic with my cert.

that you posted therefore made it look more like you are boasting etc. i'm not implying you are, but it looks like that when i dun know you personally.

 

lets carry on with bike topics and less of talking about ourselves, or even others.

 

if u do not have any beneficial info or comments, pls do keep it to yourself

 

the other bro here is also providing some infos, jus like you, so this statement seems unfriendly too...

 

you 2 shd jus stop talking about you, me etc and focus solely on the topic you guys are debating about.

 

if my post is deemed offending to anyone, mods jus delete it away ok.

 

 

cheers,

[mepkoh]

i thank you for your input but pls refrain from misleading people who don have such knowledge. No offence, thanks.

 

oh dear......

i think we have an expert here. asking questions and help i suppose??

but instead showing us as a fraud...hahhah

[SNapEl]

:clapping:

 

Anyways.. Transformers 2 the girlfriend of the male lead rides a 2 stroke right?

Looked like it... normal 4 stroke inline 4 too heavy for her?

[thenation]

I'm not sure if its a 2 stroker but it sure sounds like one...Hmm though I shouldn't place too much faith in movie sounds, the ducati hypermotard in Yes Man sounded like a inline 4, not a l-twin...

[mepkoh]

white smoke coming out of your bike exhuast always spell trouble...

i stand to be corrected on this.

 

the foloowing might interest to some:

colour of exhaust smoke

black..premix ratio too much 2T oil

bluish..petrol..very rich mix

white..water vapours and/or EO..busted water cooling system, and/or piston rings.

 

would like to hear comments ...this is what i believe..

[ahcaibiker]

i sincerely apologize if any of my non malicious comments offended anyone. im sorry, again i repeat, im not here to flame anyone nor do i expect any flaming from anyone to whoever. mod pls step in if the fire go out of control. Thanks for everyone's inputs.

 

mepkoh, if u still think u stand correct on your viewpoint, go tell ah chong from planet that he is wrong. i have verified with him and he definitely knows his job with years of experience. if u still think u are correct then continue thinking that way. to each his own. we can disagree on one another's opinion but pls don strain the relations even though we do not know each other.

Edited June 30, 2009 by ahcaibiker

[nivleK1985]

with my ta150 for 5 yrs.

sure got white smoke. but v light one hehe not that until foggy kind unless i turn my choke on.

 

and ta150 is a good ride, just don't forget that 2T u're pretty safe

[mepkoh]

hahahaha..... a word of advice....never say someone misled other people..

 

achong yeah that is his opinion..hahahah...have not so nice experience with him anyway.

[mepkoh]

with my ta150 for 5 yrs.

sure got white smoke. but v light one hehe not that until foggy kind unless i turn my choke on.

 

and ta150 is a good ride, just don't forget that 2T u're pretty safe

 

check again...grey..black smoke coming out..hahaha white smoke watch out.

[nivleK1985]

change bike le hehe

[jB]

read the first page.

 

2 stroke bikes don't emit white smoke either the rider rides slowly(very very) or there is something fishy(very very)

 

this ta150 thread sure makes my day

[nivleK1985]

jb, didn't notice, but starting bike sure white smoke most of the time.

on choke, start bike, warm up i get white smoke. :S

 

riding time, i dun really go see haha

[ahcaibiker]

hahahaha..... a word of advice....never say someone misled other people..

 

achong yeah that is his opinion..hahahah...have not so nice experience with him anyway.

 

it is a fact that your are wrong yet u insist you r right, go gather all the mechanics from bike workshops and ask them the white smoke issue and you know what i mean. if u think you r right, then u r right lor.

 

i understand perfectly sometimes it is difficult to admit one's mistake. pride gets in the way, ouch. Im talking about myself so pls don get touchy itchy over this comment. ah chong is a nice guy, even if i don noe him well. since you think you are right, no amount of words or talking gonna change your mindset. i respect your opinion. not happy? ask honda motorcycles for verification. go back to the manufacturers for their expertise, afterall they r the ones who build the engine. they cant go wrong can they? if they agree minimal white smoke = normal and yet u disagree, then i really nothing to say. go on, tell the ITE automotive instructors they are teaching nonsense.

 

like it anot, in my opinion, u are misleading people. white smoke means trouble....LMAO. all 2 stroke owners, pls go do major engine overhaul... expect to see many sp, krr, rxz, tzm outside bikeshops... pls don take ppl's kindness for his/her weakness.

 

mod, if this gets out of hand pls remove all posts with any provocative comment. im a person who loves peace and am a anti-flamer. u want flame ppl? pls go to stomp. can flame till u song.

[nivleK1985]

aiya ahcai, dw la...

if he riding ta150, he should know hehe relax.

 

take it w a pinch of salt, no end de...

[ahcaibiker]

aiya ahcai, dw la...

if he riding ta150, he should know hehe relax.

 

take it w a pinch of salt, no end de...

 

 

no probs bro, im cool. not just TA150 owners will understand this. whoever who rode a 2 stroker will understand. im glad u understand the white smoke issue. but i just detest ppl who insist they are right when they are clearly wrong. and end up confusing ppl who not very technical abt bike stuff.

not only that, flame ppl who are clearly sharing correct info.

 

just a guidline. don agree with anything? don post or reply. if reply just reply your opinion on that issue and not counter argue an opinion u disagree with. a suggestion to the mods, if any particular forumer caught flaming ppl more than 5 times, his/her account should be banned.

[ahcaibiker]

ahcaibiker,

 

jus a suggestion to you. i would say it is a matter of you dun know some of the forumers here who posted in here in regards to you, jus like they dun know you.

 

words like that you posted therefore made it look more like you are boasting etc. i'm not implying you are, but it looks like that when i dun know you personally.

 

lets carry on with bike topics and less of talking about ourselves, or even others.

 

 

 

the other bro here is also providing some infos, jus like you, so this statement seems unfriendly too...

 

you 2 shd jus stop talking about you, me etc and focus solely on the topic you guys are debating about.

 

if my post is deemed offending to anyone, mods jus delete it away ok.

 

 

cheers,

 

hi madman, i agree with what u shared. thanks. but im sure u know the problem with alot of forums, flaming. some ppl just like to add fuel to fire and end up making the whole thing so much worse. so my suggestion is, if whoever got nothing to share to help the situation? keep quiet. very simple. talk abt the main issue can say until personal attk on the person. i don understand really.

[SNapEl]

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i understand perfectly sometimes it is difficult to admit one's mistake. pride gets in the way, ouch. Im talking about myself so pls don get touchy itchy over this comment.

 

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like it anot, in my opinion, u are misleading people. white smoke means trouble....LMAO. all 2 stroke owners, pls go do major engine overhaul... expect to see many sp, krr, rxz, tzm outside bikeshops... pls don take ppl's kindness for his/her weakness.

 

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Since you have agreed that this goes both ways, I suggest that you shut up. There is a basis behind what ah chong said and there is a basis behind what mepkoh is saying, and both are different matters.

 

If you do not understand, ask why. Don't crucify the person who is suggesting to you his/her opinion for the question you asked. If you disagree just say so and let it be, and don't be the mindless, prideful antagonist you are starting this whole nonsense.

 

I thought this stinking attitude in those who are "elite". Seems like its also in those who "think" they are...

 

So now, stop this tit for tat and move on, let this be the thread it is suppose to be.

 

p.s. This will be my last response to the game a fool has started.

[ahcaibiker]

Since you have agreed that this goes both ways, I suggest that you shut up. There is a basis behind what ah chong said and there is a basis behind what mepkoh is saying, and both are different matters.

 

If you do not understand, ask why. Don't crucify the person who is suggesting to you his/her opinion for the question you asked. If you disagree just say so and let it be, and don't be the mindless, prideful antagonist you are starting this whole nonsense.

 

I thought this stinking attitude in those who are "elite". Seems like its also in those who "think" they are...

 

So now, stop this tit for tat and move on, let this be the thread it is suppose to be.

 

p.s. This will be my last response to the game a fool has started.

 

this is an typical example of a person that doesnt help the situation. that kind of person that loves adding fuel to fire. u should ST*U not me. mod pls step in, make this forum a more pleasant place to be. i've been observing your posts and your post more often than not doesnt help the situation. dude, grow up pls.

[SNapEl]

Haha looks like someone read through all 1621, now 1622, of my posts.

My, looks like I've got myself a stalker haven't I? I didn't know i look so good online

[BlackDawn]

TA150 don't put coolant, just put water can or not har?

[nivleK1985]

best thing, dun put anything. no spoil dun touch !

[BlackDawn]

But TA150 is liquid cool one mah, no put will overheat leh...

I only familiar with air-cooled 4-stroker bikes, newbie on 2-strokers....

 

Water can or not har? Coolant more expensive than tap water leh...

[Wizard]

bro blackdawn..

need coolant la dey.. lol

but 1x coolant.. can use for damn long.. coz the bike itself hardly overheat.. the only time i saw the temp gauge reached half.. was jam at checkpoint.. not even near red line

 

or maybe i have a cool bike?