GSX400RR Riders

[ozzarhomb]

Originally posted by stardust@Feb 23 2006, 09:12 AM

maybe you can try K&T. Clifford does a good job of tuning and troubleshooting the bike and so far.. I've had mostly good times on the G4!

 

and perhaps it's time to do some major service for the bike.. not just replacing the wear and tear parts..

hmm, where is this K & T leh?

 

major service as in what? overhaul? :giddy:

[ozzarhomb]

Originally posted by Shawn--@Feb 23 2006, 09:22 AM

after his tuning, u ride da g4 very song right? But 1 thing is like he dont like to service g4. Did he tell u that? haha, maybe u diff case coz u'r a ger. He said g4 is hard to service. (but i though rvf was even harder?lol)

wah den i go to him later he gimme black face how? :mad:

[sp rider 06]

Originally posted by ozzarhomb@Feb 23 2006, 11:25 AM

wah den i go to him later he gimme black face how? :mad:

give him a call before u go down lor..........tel 6745 5463,6745 4385...blk 3006 ubi road 1 #01-372 spore 408700.........the shop is juz a few shop away from planet..........is along tat stretch of road.........clifford

 

 

servicing like change engine oil, spark plugs....tune the carb n wash the carb.....tat time let him wash n tune carb is 80 last yr, dun no the price now.....

 

 

i must say his tuning is good ...........he wouldnt show u black face juz say dun have time......so best is u call lor............

[ozzarhomb]

Originally posted by sp rider 06@Feb 23 2006, 11:58 AM

give him a call before u go down lor..........tel 6745 5463,6745 4385...blk 3006 ubi road 1 #01-372 spore 408700.........the shop is juz a few shop away from planet..........is along tat stretch of road.........clifford

 

 

servicing like change engine oil, spark plugs....tune the carb n wash the carb.....tat time let him wash n tune carb is 80 last yr, dun no the price now.....

 

 

i must say his tuning is good ...........he wouldnt show u black face juz say dun have time......so best is u call lor............

hmm, can consider gg there since u guys recommend. G4 bike G4 riders like u all know best. i dun mind leaving my bike there for a few days wan if he can solve all my problems.

 

i wonder if i can still ride my bike out or not leh. petrol dripping out like quite dangerous. skali explode i die how sia? :giddy:

[ozzarhomb]

Originally posted by Arcfire@Feb 23 2006, 06:13 AM

Btw, there is no off switch for the bike... oni ON, Reserve and Pri.

no no matter which settng i put to i can run the bike izzit? what's the difference between on and primary? :confused:

[paiseh]

apparently there seems to be a great demand for 2nd hand IU in the market recently and i have been to countless bike shops(including the whole of alexandra village) asking for a 2nd hand IU set. was told that it is almost impossible to find one.

 

P/S: i need one for my sch project, if anyone is able to find it, pls let me know

[ozzarhomb]

oh ya i took a picture liao, see if u guys can help me see see. if u look close enough can see 1 drop of petrol at the place of leak.

 

i correct myself, she leaked when the needle is pointing down (ON i presume), doesn't leak when pointing to the left (PRI i presume again), flows rather fast when it's at reserve. :giddy:

[paiseh]

that is a nipple that allows petrol to flow out when carb overflow. u will notice when u rev, the leak stops, den when u stop revving, the leak continues like crazy.

 

this is an indication that ur carb float is spoilt. need to change.

[Addictive]

Originally posted by ozzarhomb@Feb 23 2006, 04:18 PM

oh ya i took a picture liao, see if u guys can help me see see. if u look close enough can see 1 drop of petrol at the place of leak.

 

i correct myself, she leaked when the needle is pointing down (ON i presume), doesn't leak when pointing to the left (PRI i presume again), flows rather fast when it's at reserve. :giddy:

if it flows like guy peeing then cfm float is spoilt, otherwise i guess the float is dirty only, can be easily solve after some hard ramming while u r riding... tt works for me.

 

Anyway, if u r intending to ride long, plan the piority and spend somemore to retify the slowly. It's not hard to get 2nd hand G4 parts anyway. Unless the bike is really super chui(I dunno how to define the "chuiness", but I guess yours is not as bad) then I really nothing to say. Accessories can wait. U will get things up running good pretty soon. My G4 ain't smooth going when I juz bought, within 1 mth got towed 3 times and that's pretty suX. becoz:-

-CDI Kaput

-Worn Plug cap, water got it and plugs cannot worked

-Clutch cable spoilt

Anyway when I bought this bike, I set aside 500 for servicing as this is an old bike and that's the way how I got things done up. Somemore the carb dunno how many donkey years never service when i juz got the bike, I got a full milage for 180km per full tank, AND I MEAN petrol tank sucked until dried also run for 180km only. In the end got my carb serviced and till now I have no problems. Other than that juz regular oil change.

[ozzarhomb]

Originally posted by paiseh@Feb 23 2006, 04:30 PM

that is a nipple that allows petrol to flow out when carb overflow. u will notice when u rev, the leak stops, den when u stop revving, the leak continues like crazy.

 

this is an indication that ur carb float is spoilt. need to change.

i not so sure abou the reving part but now it's leaking whenever i put to reserve and primary i think. so now i can't ride the bike to the workshop also? need to tow or not? go where change? K & T?

[donutBoy]

If i remember correctly,

 

the PRI indicates PRIME not primary

its for occasions when ur carbs are bone dry and you want to get some petrol in quick.

 

when the switch is at ON, the flow of petrol into the carbs is regulated by the vacumn hose while the engine is running.

in PRI, petrol will just flow into the carbs irregardless whether ur engine is running or not.

 

Disclaimer: i may be wrong, forgot all abt carbs and stuff after jumping over to FI bikes

[Arcfire]

Originally posted by donutBoy@Feb 23 2006, 04:52 PM

If i remember correctly,

 

the PRI indicates PRIME not primary

its for occasions when ur carbs are bone dry and you want to get some petrol in quick.

 

when the switch is at ON, the flow of petrol into the carbs is regulated by the vacumn hose while the engine is running.

in PRI, petrol will just flow into the carbs irregardless whether ur engine is running or not.

 

Disclaimer: i may be wrong, forgot all abt carbs and stuff after jumping over to FI bikes

Clever boy!

Saved me the trouble of explaining it again...... haha

[Arcfire]

Originally posted by paiseh@Feb 23 2006, 04:30 PM

that is a nipple that allows petrol to flow out when carb overflow. u will notice when u rev, the leak stops, den when u stop revving, the leak continues like crazy.

 

this is an indication that ur carb float is spoilt. need to change.

Welll.... its logical that when you rev the leaking stops cos petrol is taken in mah.

 

To really check you need to take out the floats to see.

[Arcfire]

Originally posted by S750WP@Feb 23 2006, 06:28 AM

Turst me the float won't went out of place one, you will be convince if you take out and install the floats yourself. Infact on the G4 carb, there is a screw to secure the float in place, I also first time see.

 

The petrol leaking from the carb is due to dirt stuck at the needle valve, just need to open up the float bowl dismantle the whole float and clean out will do. $10 labour charge is cheap though cause need to take out the whole carb, and to do that alot of work involve.

 

Also the float on the G4 no need to change because the needle valve can be dismantle from the float assembly unlike the B4 which is one whole unit. Unless the float on the G4 is punture but then its not possible also because its made of very hard platic unless the mech sabotage.

I din realise the floats can be changed separately........ you mean they sell the needles separately as well?

 

Where can i get the needles? Changing the floats cost a bomb man.....

[paiseh]

Originally posted by Arcfire@Feb 23 2006, 05:48 PM

Welll.... its logical that when you rev the leaking stops cos petrol is taken in mah.

 

To really check you need to take out the floats to see.

icic. nice nice

[Naz]

Is it ok if every morning i PRIME it like a couple of seconds before starting?

 

These days I hafta throttle to get the boy to fire.

[Arcfire]

Originally posted by Naz@Feb 23 2006, 07:43 PM

Is it ok if every morning i PRIME it like a couple of seconds before starting?

 

These days I hafta throttle to get the boy to fire.

No need.... juz pull the choke n start if you can't get it to start with the crank alone.

U ride everyday? if you do cfm got petrol in your carbs... no worry.

[snk]

Originally posted by Arcfire@Feb 23 2006, 05:51 PM

I din realise the floats can be changed separately........ you mean they sell the needles separately as well?

 

Where can i get the needles? Changing the floats cost a bomb man.....

well i paid about 350+ for the entire carb internal components changed including floats and jettings...of cos includes tunning.

[Naz]

Originally posted by Arcfire@Feb 23 2006, 08:45 PM

No need.... juz pull the choke n start if you can't get it to start with the crank alone.

U ride everyday? if you do cfm got petrol in your carbs... no worry.

erm my bike got no choke lah bro..

 

fuseboks no have, choke no have.. *panic attack starting*

 

ok ok thanks for the advise bro!!

[stripes1976]

it could be worn/stuck float needle, float perch o-ring seal perished or leaking, or the float itself split and sinking. Or incorrect float height.

[Arcfire]

Originally posted by Naz@Feb 23 2006, 09:21 PM

erm my bike got no choke lah bro..

 

fuseboks no have, choke no have.. *panic attack starting*

 

ok ok thanks for the advise bro!!

 

Wah pengz sia..... everything oso no have........

[ozzarhomb]

Originally posted by Arcfire@Feb 23 2006, 05:51 PM

I din realise the floats can be changed separately........ you mean they sell the needles separately as well?

 

Where can i get the needles? Changing the floats cost a bomb man.....

oh no, seems like u guys diagnose correctly le after i post up the picture. it's gonna cost 300++ to get repaired??

 

super sian, now on engine only it's leaking. drip until my starter motor there also got petrol. no way i'm gonna try starting the bike, later got explosion die man.

[S750WP]

Originally posted by stripes1976@Feb 23 2006, 08:27 AM

you are correct to quote me on that mate as it was me that wrote it!

but i think you have your screws mixed up!

there are 4 seperate mixture screws one on each carb body and one idle speed screw in the middle!

If you require pictures email me you have my mail address or get me on msn mate!

Nope I didn;t mixed up the screws. The air/fuel or mixture screws, there are 4 of them, one under each carb near to the float bowl.

 

The idling screws is the middle threaded rod in the middle of the carb.

 

So 1.5 turns out aren;t you refering to the 4 air/fuel screw or mixture screws which some call it.

 

Factory Pro have the pictures of the mixture screws however I not able to find it now.

[Addictive]

Originally posted by ozzarhomb@Feb 24 2006, 10:39 AM

oh no, seems like u guys diagnose correctly le after i post up the picture. it's gonna cost 300++ to get repaired??

 

super sian, now on engine only it's leaking. drip until my starter motor there also got petrol. no way i'm gonna try starting the bike, later got explosion die man.

Dude, your carb still dripping?

No worries la, it won't cost 300+ to get it repair nor it will explode when u start the bike. The most juz service your carb and change the float which caused your carb to drip. KS selling each float for $35. Try bikeworkz at Kakit Bukit SHunli industrial estate and look for ah beng. Why it won't explode? Anyway The location where spark take place is at the spark plug ignition area. So juz ride your bike to the bike shop and get it fix before the whole petrol dripped until empty.

[S750WP]

Originally posted by Arcfire@Feb 23 2006, 05:51 PM

I din realise the floats can be changed separately........ you mean they sell the needles separately as well?

 

Where can i get the needles? Changing the floats cost a bomb man.....

 

Yes you can buy the needle valve separately, think its abt $20 from KS. Advise is to remove and check the needle valve for wear, if its good, clean up and install back.

 

I have 3 spares needle valve from my ex gsxr750, most probably it can fit on G4.