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What do you intend on using it for? Transport or something you want to enjoy riding?

If it were for transport I wouldn't get the Aprilia. I own an RS125 btw, riding posture is bad on the back for long distances. But on the other hand, it is a very stable bike as compared to the SP and KR so it isn't as tiring to ride in terms of having to concentrate on your riding. FC for the Aprilia is pretty high (between 17 - 24km/l depending on how you ride) compared to the other 2 because it is a 2-stroke. But performance wise, the other 2 will not be able to keep up with the Aprilia.

The Yamaha is pretty expensive still but it will be a good ride. Riding posture is good too. FC is pretty low, you can easily hit 40+ km/l.

Haven't ridden a Roadwin before but the riding posture is kind of upright so you don't really have to lean much and strain your back.

 

Personally, I'd go for the Aprilia because it has very good brakes, handles better, is more stable, vibrates less and has the power for overtaking. The downside is how much it costs to run. Maintainence isn't too expensive, a regular service ranges from $80 to $120, depending on what you have to service. But if anything goes wrong, be prepared to reach deep into your pockets because original parts are from Italy. Few fake parts around.

 

Edit: Full tank for the Aprilia will give you roughly 200KM so be prepared to stop for petrol pretty often. And you have to use RON98 or better petrol and feed it fully synthetic 2T oil. You can't go cheap on the 2T either or it'll cause your engine to seize. Rebuilding the engine would be somewhere between $2-3K.

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Current Bikes: RS125 + V-Strom 1000 + F800GS Adventure

Previous Bikes: NSR250 + RS250 + Super 4

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Get a cheap bike, gain experience then ride a cl2a bike. A 400cc bike will outrun any 2b bike, aprilia or not.

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Get a cheap bike, gain experience then ride a cl2a bike. A 400cc bike will outrun any 2b bike, aprilia or not.

 

I think it's very much dependent on the rider. 2 strokers have quite a great propensity for power and you have to factor in the weight difference of about 60-70kgs in as well. The only issue is really the maintenance of a 2-stroker.

 

For example, i find it easier to pull a clutch wheelie on an RS125 as opposed to a super 4, which is bulkier and doesn't accelerate as violently as a two-stroker in its powerband. The sportbike ergonomics also enables easier location of balance point.

 

So I wouldn't say a 2-stroker sportbike is completely trumped by a 400cc.

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What do you intend on using it for? Transport or something you want to enjoy riding?

If it were for transport I wouldn't get the Aprilia. I own an RS125 btw, riding posture is bad on the back for long distances. But on the other hand, it is a very stable bike as compared to the SP and KR so it isn't as tiring to ride in terms of having to concentrate on your riding. FC for the Aprilia is pretty high (between 17 - 24km/l depending on how you ride) compared to the other 2 because it is a 2-stroke. But performance wise, the other 2 will not be able to keep up with the Aprilia.

The Yamaha is pretty expensive still but it will be a good ride. Riding posture is good too. FC is pretty low, you can easily hit 40+ km/l.

Haven't ridden a Roadwin before but the riding posture is kind of upright so you don't really have to lean much and strain your back.

 

Personally, I'd go for the Aprilia because it has very good brakes, handles better, is more stable, vibrates less and has the power for overtaking. The downside is how much it costs to run. Maintainence isn't too expensive, a regular service ranges from $80 to $120, depending on what you have to service. But if anything goes wrong, be prepared to reach deep into your pockets because original parts are from Italy. Few fake parts around.

 

Edit: Full tank for the Aprilia will give you roughly 200KM so be prepared to stop for petrol pretty often. And you have to use RON98 or better petrol and feed it fully synthetic 2T oil. You can't go cheap on the 2T either or it'll cause your engine to seize. Rebuilding the engine would be somewhere between $2-3K.

 

thanks for the info genius! well can u tell me how much roughly will u spend on the bike every month?how often do u service it?does it usually break down?coz tts what most ppl say..

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I think it's very much dependent on the rider. 2 strokers have quite a great propensity for power and you have to factor in the weight difference of about 60-70kgs in as well. The only issue is really the maintenance of a 2-stroker.

 

For example, i find it easier to pull a clutch wheelie on an RS125 as opposed to a super 4, which is bulkier and doesn't accelerate as violently as a two-stroker in its powerband. The sportbike ergonomics also enables easier location of balance point.

 

So I wouldn't say a 2-stroker sportbike is completely trumped by a 400cc.

 

Dude, what you just said only fits your current situation and skills. What I posted earlier was aimed at new riders; you think newbs can handle rs to it's full potential and not get into trouble? What I suggested was simple; get a cheap bike, if crash or buang also nevermind then once the experience is there, get a 2a bike.

 

For your argument, I don't get why you compare a roadbike (s4) to a sportsbike - especially something like doing clutch wheelie; you think many people want to do wheelies on public roads meh? Anyway, you want to compare, compare with rs250 instead. Which I am certain can outrun & outcorner the 125, so my statement still stand - get a cheap 2b bike, get experience then go for 2a and above..

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Never heard of an Aprilia R125. :rolleyes:

09/07/2009 - Passed 2B TP (10th attempt)

 

I have tried to see things from your point of view..But no matter how hard I try..Or what I do..I just can't get my head that far up my butt..

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looks wise, the aprillia and the yamaha would win

 

the roadwin r125 is the biggest, but erm well, let's just say the yamaha and aprillia look more expensive

boring rider. with a boring bike.

too old to want to appear interesting anymore.

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Dude, what you just said only fits your current situation and skills. What I posted earlier was aimed at new riders; you think newbs can handle rs to it's full potential and not get into trouble? What I suggested was simple; get a cheap bike, if crash or buang also nevermind then once the experience is there, get a 2a bike.

 

For your argument, I don't get why you compare a roadbike (s4) to a sportsbike - especially something like doing clutch wheelie; you think many people want to do wheelies on public roads meh? Anyway, you want to compare, compare with rs250 instead. Which I am certain can outrun & outcorner the 125, so my statement still stand - get a cheap 2b bike, get experience then go for 2a and above..

 

It's an illustration man, don't get so uptight. I just like to have a little fun every now and then. The only reason why i made the comparison between a transport machine like the S4 and a weekend machine like an RS is because you said that "any" 400cc would most certainly "outrun any 2b bike". The hp difference is too little between a 2b and 2a motor to make that statement conclusive. The illustration is just to prove a point; any bike is only as good as it's rider.

 

Ok let's approach it from another angle, the RS125 is certainly one of the better looking 2B sportbikes and TS only has a 2b license. Of the 3 bikes he mentioned, it clearly has the most bhp and torque. It is therefore the most powerful of available options.

 

2A bikes are not available options and therefore shouldn't even be factored into the consideration. Such a recommendation is OT in the first place since it's perfectly acceptable to splurge on a 2B bike should the TS so desire.

 

He can therefore get a relatively costly 2B cycle, still get a 2A cycle and later a class 2. Spending 10+k on a first motorcycle does not equate to not being able to afford a larger motorcycle later on. Such financial issues are the TS's own worries. We are merely here to answer the original question, which is better, the Aprilia, the Yamaha or the Daelim? Wiping out on the cycle is also an OT topic. Handling would be more appropriate.

 

If he couldn't afford it, I sincerely doubt the TS would be doing research on it. So basically, the TS would be best helped by a solid comparison of the 3 machines rather than financial advice.

 

Bottom line, if you like it, buy it. Neither of the 3 are bad rides, so it comes down to a decision of heart.

Posted (edited)
thanks for the info genius! well can u tell me how much roughly will u spend on the bike every month?how often do u service it?does it usually break down?coz tts what most ppl say..

 

Depends on how much you ride. I spend around $150 on petrol per month because I ride around alot and am sort of my friend's chauffeur. Friend is a girl lar so I don't mind :angel:

I service it every 3000KM (usually less, around 2800 - 2900 KM or so). Costs around $100 each time. Would cost more if you do more to it. I always change the brake pads and get the powervalve cleaned so the total bill comes to around $150 (with discount :D).

The clutch plates wear out rather quickly, it's around $30 to replace them. They will last longer if you don't do 10K RPM starts.

 

Decarbonising the exhaust costs $45. You can slow down carbon build up if you rev it high enough. Advice would be to redline the bike in the first 3 gears everytime you move off then skip the next 2 gears and shift straight to 6th. Becareful of getting done in for speeding though.

Piston rings are recommended to be replaced every 8000KM. Not sure how much they cost though, probably around $70.

 

Tyres are more expensive too as it uses the same size ones as the RVF. Rear Battlax would be approximately $160 and $80 for the front, also Battlax.

 

Overhaul the engine at around 18 months depending on how you abuse it. This is the main damage to your wallet though, you could get another 2nd hand SP or KR for what it costs to overhaul the RS125.

Edited by themostestultimategenius

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Current Bikes: RS125 + V-Strom 1000 + F800GS Adventure

Previous Bikes: NSR250 + RS250 + Super 4

Posted
Sadly there's not much choice for the new 2a bikes, it's either a S4 or the new suzuki GSR.

 

where both are awesome bikes :angel: why have the headache of choosing more? haha...

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Obviously. Bigger CC of cos can outrun any

 

This isnt 100% true. Its a fallacy or stereotype here. Yamaha LC and Suzuki RG and other models are capable of winning higher cc bikes. I wont mention specifically which model, where and who. CC isnt the only factor in regards to outrunning.

Posted (edited)

the yamaha r125 u guys tokin abt izzi yzf r125

kind of interested in dis bike cos recently came across dis bike

anybody if sg gt sell dis bike

if gt sell how much ah? :cool:

Edited by stylista

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the yamaha r125 u guys tokin abt izzi yzf r125

kind of interested in dis bike cos recently came across dis bike

anybody if sg gt sell dis bike

if gt sell how much ah? :cool:

 

Yes looi's motor kaki bukit place tel:67431072 is selling it:cheers:

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Yes looi's motor kaki bukit place tel:67431072 is selling it:cheers:

 

hey maxbg

u noe dey sell how much?

10K? or more

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Go for YZF R125,Powerwise better tha R150.Sadly under 200cc bike are restricted by LTA/ROV be it horsepower or top speed.Just look at Malaysian bikes.Last time i ride my Suzuki GSXR400 one blardy TZM follow me close even though the needle reach 170..But cant denied riding a done up small bike give more satisfaction as skills and efforts are tested.Dun get me wrong here but bigger cc bike is effortless,Any fool can just whack the throttle and voila the bike fly like rocket.

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1993:Class 2B-Yamaha RXK/RXZ/TZR125RR/SDR200/WR200-Aprilia RS125R-Kawasaki KRR150ZX(Former)

2000:Class 3-Honda Civic 1.6esi(Former)Proton Exora 1.6Turbo(Current)

2004:Bus Driver Vocational License

2009:Class 4

2011:Class 2A-Aprilia RS250-Honda CB400SF PB1-KTM250EXC(Former)Yamaha XJR400R(Current)

2013:Class 2-Suzuki B-King 1300(Former)

Posted

power leh 170 quite fast lor

den new spec 3 or spec 3 revo machine price how much ah?

:angel:

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What do you intend on using it for? Transport or something you want to enjoy riding?

If it were for transport I wouldn't get the Aprilia. I own an RS125 btw, riding posture is bad on the back for long distances. But on the other hand, it is a very stable bike as compared to the SP and KR so it isn't as tiring to ride in terms of having to concentrate on your riding. FC for the Aprilia is pretty high (between 17 - 24km/l depending on how you ride) compared to the other 2 because it is a 2-stroke. But performance wise, the other 2 will not be able to keep up with the Aprilia.

The Yamaha is pretty expensive still but it will be a good ride. Riding posture is good too. FC is pretty low, you can easily hit 40+ km/l.

Haven't ridden a Roadwin before but the riding posture is kind of upright so you don't really have to lean much and strain your back.

 

Personally, I'd go for the Aprilia because it has very good brakes, handles better, is more stable, vibrates less and has the power for overtaking. The downside is how much it costs to run. Maintainence isn't too expensive, a regular service ranges from $80 to $120, depending on what you have to service. But if anything goes wrong, be prepared to reach deep into your pockets because original parts are from Italy. Few fake parts around.

 

Edit: Full tank for the Aprilia will give you roughly 200KM so be prepared to stop for petrol pretty often. And you have to use RON98 or better petrol and feed it fully synthetic 2T oil. You can't go cheap on the 2T either or it'll cause your engine to seize. Rebuilding the engine would be somewhere between $2-3K.

 

the minimum RON RS125 can take is 95 as stated on the sticker on the tank.previously everytime i go jb pump 98 but now,wat the heck.95 also no problem.every cents saved is better.

Oct 2002 - PPL

19 Sept 2005 - 2B

18 Sept 2007 - 2A

20 July 2010 - 2

 

Oct 2005 - present: Aprilia RS 125

Oct 16 2010 - Feb 2011: Honda CBR 600 RR

Apr 08 2011: Ducati Monster 620

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the minimum RON RS125 can take is 95 as stated on the sticker on the tank.previously everytime i go jb pump 98 but now,wat the heck.95 also no problem.every cents saved is better.

 

Carbon build up is much faster as RON95 doesn't burn as cleanly. If he isn't careful the carbon will build up to the point where the powervalve can't open and then it'll break. Close to $200 to replace that. You get less power with RON95 too. Up to him though, I'd still recommend using RON98.

Sorry if I sound offensive :cheeky:

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Current Bikes: RS125 + V-Strom 1000 + F800GS Adventure

Previous Bikes: NSR250 + RS250 + Super 4

Posted
Carbon build up is much faster as RON95 doesn't burn as cleanly. If he isn't careful the carbon will build up to the point where the powervalve can't open and then it'll break. Close to $200 to replace that. You get less power with RON95 too. Up to him though, I'd still recommend using RON98.

Sorry if I sound offensive :cheeky:

 

no worries about breaking my valve coz im using pneumatic valve :thumb:

Oct 2002 - PPL

19 Sept 2005 - 2B

18 Sept 2007 - 2A

20 July 2010 - 2

 

Oct 2005 - present: Aprilia RS 125

Oct 16 2010 - Feb 2011: Honda CBR 600 RR

Apr 08 2011: Ducati Monster 620

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