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<Discussion> Changi Motorsports Hub - CMH


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lol no matter the cost, its gonna take the support of the locals to keep it up and running. now that the govt has given trackies a chance, its time to show them that a local track is economically viable and sustainable.

 

alrite. have my support. juz worried if more support = more expensive.

juz look at the casinos, local entrance fee $100. that's Demoralising.

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In Mar 2010, the Singapore Sports Council announced that SG Changi Private Limited (SG Changi) has been selected to design, build, finance and manage the Changi Motorsports Hub.

 

Reported to cost S$330 million to develop, the circuit is tentatively scheduled to be operational by end of next year.

 

On 13 Jul 10, Singaporebikes.com, together with the car, karting and media had been invited to witness the historical and significant ground-breaking ceremony for Singapore's first permanent motorsports facility - The Changi Motorsports Hub (CMH).

 

 

Changi Motorsports Hub (CMH) Ground-Breaking Ceremony

 

Date : 13 Jul 10

Time : 10.30am

Meetup Venue : Aviation Park Road

 

 

Programme

- Gather @ Meetup venue

- Proceed together to CMH

- Ground-breaking ceremony

- Light refreshment

- End of event

 

Note : Limited slots, registration on first-come-first-secure basis

 

e.g S/no / Nick / Bike

 

Registration

01. Andy

02. Kushinagar

03. :-P

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Hmmmm, wonder if it will be run like PG or Sepang...:cheeky:

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In Mar 2010, the Singapore Sports Council announced that SG Changi Private Limited (SG Changi) has been selected to design, build, finance and manage the Changi Motorsports Hub.

 

Reported to cost S$330 million to develop, the circuit is tentatively scheduled to be operational by end of next year.

On 13 Jul 10, Singaporebikes.com, together with the car, karting and media had been invited to witness the historical and significant ground-breaking ceremony for Singapore's first permanent motorsports facility - The Changi Motorsports Hub (CMH).

Changi Motorsports Hub (CMH) Ground-Breaking Ceremony

Date : 13 Jul 10

Time : 10.30am

Meetup Venue : Aviation Park Road

 

 

Programme

- Gather @ Meetup venue

- Proceed together to CMH

- Ground-breaking ceremony

- Light refreshment

- End of event

 

Note : Limited slots, registration on first-come-first-secure basis

e.g S/no / Nick / Bike

 

Registration

01. Andy

02. Kushinagar

03. :-P

04. MiCmAsTa

05.

06.

07.

08.

09.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

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18.

19.

20.

 

*Hope everyone going will be in SBF Polo Tee. (MiCmAsTa)

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Hmmmm, wonder if it will be run like PG or Sepang...:cheeky:

 

Taking a page from how everything else is done in Singapore, it may be run like Sepang at first, before it degenerates into the likes of PG... :angel:

 

I have a wild idea how it may all play out. But it's just a theory. :cheeky:

 

The track may be Grade 2, but it is a $280 million project. Initial costs are high and investors will pressure SG Changi to see ROI. On top of international races, they will open the track to public and private sessions at a reasonable price. This will attract a lot of support from local groups. But after a while, they will realise that local trackies are willing to pay for the convenience of using a local track, even if it costs a little more. They will get greedy and raise the entry fee/hourly usage fee.

 

This will make the investors happy, but it won't be too hot among the locals.

 

Local trackies may include a large number of newbies, who may crash and damage the track. Those trackies required to pay for repairs may be saddled with hefty repair bills, thus ensuring their exile from the track. The track may also have to close unexpectedly for maintenance and repair work after bad accidents.

 

From the social standpoint, the victims' families may demand the governing body to look into track safety and safeguards like valid racing licenses and experience/timing-based certification to segregate riders of different skill levels, and may require newbies to take a longer time in training/beginner sessions or lessons before moving up to intermediate/open level racing. This will put some people off as they will be required to spend more money getting certification instead of just racing.

 

The Changi Circuit trackies group may then start to thin, as newbies are discriminated against, riders who have crashed before are required to compensate for the damage caused before being able to use the track again etc.

 

Profits will start to go into investors' and management's pockets, instead of promotion of local events. With higher fees and more politics in play, local trackies will decide it's not worth their while, and they would prefer to return to their roots - PG and Sepang.

 

The SG Changi may lose its local supporters and as profits dwindle, conditions get worse, and they will try to recover by charging even more. By now they may realise that the initial entry/hourly fee may have been under priced, as the fees collected do not seem to be enough to cover regular maintenance and line their pockets at the same time.

 

Eventually the management will decide that the only financially viable events that will sustain the track will be MotoGP and other GP races, and will only open the track to those events. Even if they do open the track to local trackies, they may have to be certified to be able to use the track, or are required to produce proof that they have a lot of track time, so as to minimise accidents, repairs, down-time etc.

 

If repairs are constantly put off, eventually the conditions of the track will deteriorate and the venue will also be dropped from MotoGP. With no events nor enough local supporters to sustain the track, it may close within 5 years of opening, be taken over by another group, and/or run as a cheap degraded local track like PG.

 

Just a thought... :cheeky:

 

I'm hoping all the above doesn't come to pass, as I do hope to be using the track till I'm old and grey. :D

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very well said lacrimosae, u sounded like u have operated a track somewhere b4... i'm not trying to say anything here, but after reading your post i think wat u said is very likely to happen especially the closing down after 5yrs part... os, the part on fees n repairs... very very likely to happen.

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hey guys i just brought a second hand aprilia rs125 08. Can give me some advice on what to check when i take over the bike at the bike shop?

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haha. then bbdc ssdc will have track riding courses to certify they are "safe" and "certified" to ride the changi track. but 280 million dollars for this track. omg, thats some heavy investment. doubt track will close down prematurely till the govt land lease is up.

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kinda last min, may i know where is the meeting point on 13july?

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haha. then bbdc ssdc will have track riding courses to certify they are "safe" and "certified" to ride the changi track. but 280 million dollars for this track. omg, thats some heavy investment. doubt track will close down prematurely till the govt land lease is up.

 

haha... oops! Sorry, new update. $280 million was old news.

 

It's now upped to $330 million.

 

I think it will be run like PG, a tired, old, forgotten track.

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Guys..

 

We need to create awareness of our presence during the ceremony so in this case i suggest and request to those attending to ride thier bike there.. You may want to join in the convoy organised by the forum admin.. Here's the link http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6532414#post6532414

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and this is maybe the ONLY thing wat they hope for

 

'“I hope to see more Singaporean youths get involved in motorsports, undergoing proper coaching and training at high-level facilities. It would be an amazing achievement for me to see a home-grown Singaporean GT driver one day,” he said.'

 

:dot::deal:

 

not focusing on ALL motorsports

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Taking a page from how everything else is done in Singapore, it may be run like Sepang at first, before it degenerates into the likes of PG... :angel:

 

I have a wild idea how it may all play out. But it's just a theory. :cheeky:

 

The track may be Grade 2, but it is a $280 million project. Initial costs are high and investors will pressure SG Changi to see ROI. On top of international races, they will open the track to public and private sessions at a reasonable price. This will attract a lot of support from local groups. But after a while, they will realise that local trackies are willing to pay for the convenience of using a local track, even if it costs a little more. They will get greedy and raise the entry fee/hourly usage fee.

 

This will make the investors happy, but it won't be too hot among the locals.

 

Local trackies may include a large number of newbies, who may crash and damage the track. Those trackies required to pay for repairs may be saddled with hefty repair bills, thus ensuring their exile from the track. The track may also have to close unexpectedly for maintenance and repair work after bad accidents.

 

From the social standpoint, the victims' families may demand the governing body to look into track safety and safeguards like valid racing licenses and experience/timing-based certification to segregate riders of different skill levels, and may require newbies to take a longer time in training/beginner sessions or lessons before moving up to intermediate/open level racing. This will put some people off as they will be required to spend more money getting certification instead of just racing.

 

The Changi Circuit trackies group may then start to thin, as newbies are discriminated against, riders who have crashed before are required to compensate for the damage caused before being able to use the track again etc.

 

Profits will start to go into investors' and management's pockets, instead of promotion of local events. With higher fees and more politics in play, local trackies will decide it's not worth their while, and they would prefer to return to their roots - PG and Sepang.

 

The SG Changi may lose its local supporters and as profits dwindle, conditions get worse, and they will try to recover by charging even more. By now they may realise that the initial entry/hourly fee may have been under priced, as the fees collected do not seem to be enough to cover regular maintenance and line their pockets at the same time.

 

Eventually the management will decide that the only financially viable events that will sustain the track will be MotoGP and other GP races, and will only open the track to those events. Even if they do open the track to local trackies, they may have to be certified to be able to use the track, or are required to produce proof that they have a lot of track time, so as to minimise accidents, repairs, down-time etc.

 

If repairs are constantly put off, eventually the conditions of the track will deteriorate and the venue will also be dropped from MotoGP. With no events nor enough local supporters to sustain the track, it may close within 5 years of opening, be taken over by another group, and/or run as a cheap degraded local track like PG.

 

Just a thought... :cheeky:

 

I'm hoping all the above doesn't come to pass, as I do hope to be using the track till I'm old and grey. :D

 

 

u can take our very own tuas track as an example...

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