BMW Motorcycles

[den]

How about doing parallel import? The process may be tedious but not sure will it be cheaper than PML? And Im sure PML will not service parallel imported BMWs. But since there are other authorised mechs around, should solve the maintenance problem right? But then on a different skills and trust.

 

Anyone care to share at parallel import?

[Varas]

u might save a bit doing parallel import. But i dun think its advisable.

 

The warrenty from PML is important. As most beemers are really loaded with electronics stuff. So any problem with the electrical dept would be havoc. And I think most bike shops in SGP don't have the capablilities to handle it.

 

I think PML would service ur bike even its parallel, but at a premium $ and u would certainly not ibe ts piority customer over those under PML.

[Cyclop aka Sideways]

Originally posted by den@Jul 15 2004, 01:23 AM

How about doing parallel import?

I think there's already someone doin parellel, saw a C1 at a bike shop in Bandemeer sometime back and then another one recently with leather trim at Orchard.

[Wolfener]

Guys, I am thinking of getting a BMW bike. It is a R1100R. Did any of you guys heard of it before? Any comments about this model?

 

If given a choice to go for a ST1100 or R1100R, which will you choose?

[ninjaboi9]

harlow everyone ..

 

i was thinking of getting of a beemer too ..

 

i noe there is a great condition R1100RT (96 model). but cost $16.8k

izzit worth the money considering a 8yrs old bike ??

 

mileage is only 25,000 .. very low for a 8yrs old ...

the motor shop ask me to check it actual service mileage..

 

so how any comment on R 1100 RT ?

 

babyblue (light green) colour...

[chung]

Saw a 3 year old R1150R in RR Motor 2 weeks ago.

Very tempted to buy the bike, but decided not to be rash.

Any owner or ex-owner of this bike in the forum?

Could you share some review or just some pointers of likes and dislikes about this bike?

Thanks in advance.

 

PS - the bike at the shop is FT7884, anyone know the previous owner?

[ashenZ]

Originally posted by chung@Jul 17 2004, 10:56 AM

Saw a 3 year old R1150R in RR Motor 2 weeks ago.

Very tempted to buy the bike, but decided not to be rash.

Any owner or ex-owner of this bike in the forum?

Could you share some review or just some pointers of likes and dislikes about this bike?

Thanks in advance.

 

PS - the bike at the shop is FT7884, anyone know the previous owner?

yooo kena pyscho by ivan to buy bmw??? hehehe~~~

[chung]

Originally posted by ashenZ@Jul 18 2004, 01:50 AM

yooo kena pyscho by ivan to buy bmw??? hehehe~~~

Not the luxury type like his lah...

[kiss29]

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[Guest NPNT]

anyone went to the 1200GS launch or donno wat todae n yest at their Tg Arang Showroom? hw much does a new one cost?

[ayuluv]

Originally posted by newbie@Jul 18 2004, 11:23 PM

anyone went to the 1200GS launch or donno wat todae n yest at their Tg Arang Showroom? hw much does a new one cost?

hey bro.. thw R1200GS cost ard 40k... abit below lahz... otr...

they left oni one liaoz... blue color version... might haf to wait for the next batch or try other branch lor.. btw... the place is @ kampung arang... cheers...

[Guest NPNT]

Originally posted by ayuluv@Jul 19 2004, 02:09 AM

hey bro.. thw R1200GS cost ard 40k... abit below lahz... otr...

they left oni one liaoz... blue color version... might haf to wait for the next batch or try other branch lor.. btw... the place is @ kampung arang... cheers...

eh thanks for the info mate. left 1... meaning hw many hv been sold? hehe...

 

oh yah its Kg Arang... keep tinking of it being near Tg Rhu, thus Tg Arang...

 

neway dos pics of the BMW helmets r really beautiful...

[ayuluv]

Originally posted by newbie@Jul 19 2004, 02:13 PM

eh thanks for the info mate. left 1... meaning hw many hv been sold? hehe...

 

oh yah its Kg Arang... keep tinking of it being near Tg Rhu, thus Tg Arang...

 

neway dos pics of the BMW helmets r really beautiful...

hmm... me beri interested in the R1200GS... no prob at all.. cos i went to showroom on sunday wif frends... i am oso waitin for the adventure ver (if there is) cos the tank 30ltr....

btw... regardin the sales... i think dis is the 2nd or 3rd batch... i not beri sure..

but IT IS the top seller for dat branch...

hey bro.. y dun u go down there n haf a look.. take some brochure n price list....

den request for a test ride... its gonna to be fun...

actually i tried on all the bikes that are shown there... the slackest position shpuld b the R1150RT... its really super relax.. but cos me got a kruzer.. so aimin for a diff bike... initially tot of stx, k1200gt, r1150rt, r1200gs...

but i now really like the gs....

[Beemer06]

Was at Kampong Arang on Sunday as well. The new 1200GS is a beauty.

Sold my GS a year ago and never looked back......until now.

 

But as much as I want to own another BMW, the fact remains is that BMWs are not exactly what you decribe as "reliable". Servicing costs are astronomical in PML. And there are only selected shops that will even touch a BMW bike! $177+ for 10K km normal servicing, and I once paid $400 plus for 50000km service.

 

The Price you pay? I didn't know I was going to pay sooooo much!

Check out http://www.advrider.com for posts from UK and US owners.

 

"BMWs can hold their value." Not true. In my case, anyone who can afford one will rather buy new. Anyone who cannot afford one will not have enough money to pay your price.

 

Don't flame me, but I am an ex-owner and there are others like me. Burned by marketing and a branded product.

 

Don't get me wrong, it's a great bike to crunch miles while cruising to Malaysia and thailand and beyond. But only when the ABS doesn't malfunction, when nothing leaks, header pipes don't rust, burn"eat" oil, tyres don't puncture.

 

Something like a beautiful horny ex-girlfriend who likes to spend lots of your money and throw tandrums. Got good memories but you're better off w/o her.

 

Just my opinion.

 

ex-GS owner.

 

[Guest nE0]

$177 for 10,000km? Thats like less than my Phantom!

 

Every 2000km or monthly, whichever comes first:

1litre 4t ($15)

2litre 2t (2x$13)

Spark Plug ($12)

Total per 10,000km = 5 x 53 = $265!!!

 

Carb I clean myself, BMW got fuel injectors, noneed servicing.

Chain I lube myself every week, BMW use shaft or belt, maintenance free.

 

So should I downgrade to a BMW to save on servicing costs? Hmmm...

[ayuluv]

Originally posted by Beemer06@Jul 21 2004, 07:00 PM

Was at Kampong Arang on Sunday as well. The new 1200GS is a beauty.

Sold my GS a year ago and never looked back......until now.

 

But as much as I want to own another BMW, the fact remains is that BMWs are not exactly what you decribe as "reliable". Servicing costs are astronomical in PML. And there are only selected shops that will even touch a BMW bike! $177+ for 10K km normal servicing, and I once paid $400 plus for 50000km service.

 

The Price you pay? I didn't know I was going to pay sooooo much!

Check out http://www.advrider.com for posts from UK and US owners.

 

"BMWs can hold their value." Not true. In my case, anyone who can afford one will rather buy new. Anyone who cannot afford one will not have enough money to pay your price.

 

Don't flame me, but I am an ex-owner and there are others like me. Burned by marketing and a branded product.

 

Don't get me wrong, it's a great bike to crunch miles while cruising to Malaysia and thailand and beyond. But only when the ABS doesn't malfunction, when nothing leaks, header pipes don't rust, burn"eat" oil, tyres don't puncture.

 

Something like a beautiful horny ex-girlfriend who likes to spend lots of your money and throw tandrums. Got good memories but you're better off w/o her.

 

Just my opinion.

 

ex-GS owner.

 

well.. thnx alot for the advice.. i guess diff ppl wil encounter diff experience reagardin bikes... no matter which brand or wat... its up to the person to decide whether its worth it... n of cos... alot of ppl discourage me to buy my present bike.. n till now.. i still haf no regrets... GS is next man... thnx again pal...

[Wolfener]

I just bought a second hand R1100R from a friend. Will keep you guys posted on the maintence fees and any problem i encounter.

 

Regards

[chung]

Originally posted by Beemer06@Jul 21 2004, 07:00 PM

But only when the ABS doesn't malfunction, when nothing leaks, header pipes don't rust, burn"eat" oil, tyres don't puncture.

Wow

U mean U experinece all these while you were the owner?

How long did you own the bike?

[Beemer06]

There's a lot "character" with this bike. I cannot argue that it's a great ride. But if you really want to get a BMW motorcycle, there's no better choice than the new 1200GS.

 

Good Luck.

[dcspare]

BMW = Bring More Worries

 

At one point I was gullible enough to almost buy a BMW without even riding any BMW ever. Fortunately, it didn't happen and accumulating experinces on difference bikes esp suzuki's, I took up the offer of a seller to bring an 1100 roadster for a test ride. What a let down! It felt underpowered, and the boxer engine swaying ..well you know what I mean. I will take a suzuki anyday even if they were priced equally.

 

Have you notice the half page advertisment by performance motors? Where do you think the money is coming from.

 

dc.

[Cyclop aka Sideways]

Sometimes its strange how we describe things, I mean if a bike is smooth, neutral, controlled, efficient like a honda for example, its called bland, boring, lacks character. If a bike has its querks, need to be handled in a specific way, can run only when everything is kept optimal, then it has character. Its all sales talk, put out by the people who sells and those who have bought them and who needs to justify the product lack of "competetiveness" in the real world sense with such abstract concepts.

 

So what makes a good ride? I say to each its own. There one for each of us. and the wallet has the most say. If you like it and it makes you happy, no matter how screwed it is, its the best bike around. Just ask Looi about the guy with the Bimota, he's a happy camper, and that bike sure has "character"

 

Anyway, there's a change in mindset at BMW, their bikes are getting better in weight and performance and reliability. They have to listen to the market, that's where the money is.

[OMD]

Originally posted by cyclop@Jul 28 2004, 09:50 PM

Sometimes its strange how we describe things, I mean if a bike is smooth, neutral, controlled, efficient like a honda for example, its called bland, boring, lacks character. If a bike has its querks, need to be handled in a specific way, can run only when everything is kept optimal, then it has character. Its all sales talk, put out by the people who sells and those who have bought them and who needs to justify the product lack of "competetiveness" in the real world sense with such abstract concepts.

 

So what makes a good ride? I say to each its own. There one for each of us. and the wallet has the most say. If you like it and it makes you happy, no matter how screwed it is, its the best bike around. Just ask Looi about the guy with the Bimota, he's a happy camper, and that bike sure has "character"

 

Anyway, there's a change in mindset at BMW, their bikes are getting better in weight and performance and reliability. They have to listen to the market, that's where the money is.

Hiya,

 

Nicely said................

 

From,

OMD

[ayuluv]

hmmm... so is there anyone who had owned the new R1200GS??? care to feed some reviews?? kinda tempted on dat bike wor...

[Wolfener]

Ok. I have been riding my BMW for about 3 months now. Here is my review:

 

Pro:

1) ABS - Good braking system.

2) Suspension - State of the art suspension give you good stabilty and comfort in long ride and cornering.

 

Con:

1) Electrical sensors problem - One of the most common problem of all BMW bike. cost $400/- to change. Life span according to mechcanic about 50K or 3 years.

2) Parts expansive unlike Japanese bike due to the rise in Euro dollars against Sing Dollars.

 

Hearsay proof to be wrong:

1) Bike moving to one side due to the boxer engine. Not truth, Travel at 200km/hr at NSE. The bike stable like a rock. Didn't even feel any virbration.

 

2) Maintance is expensive. Not truth. Below the break down:(price depend on shop, state price only estimation)

 

a) Engine oil - use mineral as recommand by BMW. pls do not use syn oil. $12/- x 4 bottles ($48). Change every 5000 km

b) Oil filter - about $25/- change after two two oil change

c) Spark Plug - $22/- x 2 Denso Iritium ($44).

 

So you see each servicing is only about $117/-

 

Hearsay proof to be correct:

1) BMW bike must be ride consantly otherwise the engine parts with spolit - Truth.

2) Bike might lead to right side when stationary - Truth. but the effect is very minor. you might not even feel it.

 

Some tips on BMW bike:

1) Never use a hose to wash your BMW bike otherwise the electrical sensor will spolit.

2) Try not to go back to PML to service your bike. You will cry. Some workshop that do service BMW bikes:

a) Stamford Motor at AMK autopoint

b) Bike connection at Sin Ming Autocare

c) Chan's located near Macpherson (Can't remember to shop name, sorry)

[Cyclop aka Sideways]

Wanna know more about BMW GS bikes, check out http://www.advrider.com/forums. Not everybody got kind words for it man........