Fazer '07

[DeusExMachina]

The FZ6 is def more powerful than an S4. I've owned an S4, R1 and Fazer 6 (carb version).

 

The FZ6 will def pick up faster than the S4. 50% more CC. But when cruising, I noticed that they're not geared that much differently.

 

At top gear,

5K rpm for S4 = 80kph

5K rpm for F6 = 95kph

5K rpm for R1 = 118kph

 

When touring, speed vs rpm becomes an issue. As you want to maintain a nice comfortable speed without prolonging your time on the road, yet you don't want your bike to run at high rpms too long.... reducing fuel consump and engine stress.

 

The S4 does around 150 at 8+ to 9+K rpm

The F6 does it at around 7+ to 8+K.

 

The R1 will do it at 6+K only.

 

When you think abt running here to Cameron highland at 160kph average (for a nice 5 - 6 hour ride) , then you'll realize how much stress you're putting on the 3 diff classes of bikes.

[lance666]

Originally posted by FallenAngel@January 27, 2007 10:53 am

OTR Pricing

FZ1 - ard 18k

FZ6 - ard 14k

 

Regarding my insurance when i asked at New Southern Motor... I was quoted 600 for the FZ6 and 1088 for FZ1... insurance company was Alliance and my age is 22... both insurance offered was 2nd party...

 

For looks wise... FZ1 looks more style with its gold fork... nice "sai tao" and cool seats that looks like the R1 seat...

 

Pricing wise... if the insurance not so much diff... i would surely get the 1000cc for more power and design...

 

Overall what i would say is get the FZ1 if you can afford it... if not really dun mind the ugly "sai tao" of the FZ6... it could actually be more than enough for a bike in SG...

 

Power wise... i dun know... have not rode one before... but can i ask the old bird here... is the FZ6 more powerful than S4? what i mean is the power diff is it a lot when i comes to pick up? cos i personally rode on my friends' S4 and i feel that the power okay okay only... Please advise...

[hit.man]

Originally posted by DeusExMachina@January 27, 2007 11:40 am

The FZ6 is def more powerful than an S4. I've owned an S4, R1 and Fazer 6 (carb version).

 

The FZ6 will def pick up faster than the S4. 50% more CC. But when cruising, I noticed that they're not geared that much differently.

 

At top gear,

5K rpm for S4 = 80kph

5K rpm for F6 = 95kph

5K rpm for R1 = 118kph

 

When touring, speed vs rpm becomes an issue. As you want to maintain a nice comfortable speed without prolonging your time on the road, yet you don't want your bike to run at high rpms too long.... reducing fuel consump and engine stress.

 

The S4 does around 150 at 8+ to 9+K rpm

The F6 does it at around 7+ to 8+K.

 

The R1 will do it at 6+K only.

 

When you think abt running here to Cameron highland at 160kph average (for a nice 5 - 6 hour ride) , then you'll realize how much stress you're putting on the 3 diff classes of bikes.

Very good info. Thanx alot~!

 

Anyway, regarding the 5K rpm for R1 = 118 kph.... is it similar to FZ1 since they are more or less of the same capacity.

[katana]

5k for fz1 is amost the same as R1

[DeusExMachina]

Originally posted by friedfishz@January 27, 2007 12:03 pm

Very good info. Thanx alot~!

 

Anyway, regarding the 5K rpm for R1 = 118 kph.... is it similar to FZ1 since they are more or less of the same capacity.

 

Yup. 04 R1 top gear 4K = 95, 5K = 118.

 

Dunno abt the 06 FZ1. Same engine, so should be the same speed at given rpm. But they may not have the same gear ratio across the board.

 

R1 has a very tall first gear, followed by close ratios up to 6. 1st gear is good for about 160kph (though you'd risk an insane wheelie doing that). Usually on the street, I'd use 1st gear up to abt 50 or 60 kph before going to 2nd.

 

Not sure whether the FZ1 has the same tall first gear....

[FallenAngel]

Anyway anymore quotation from any other shop for '07 model on both fazer?

[Speedpass]

Originally posted by DeusExMachina@January 28, 2007 01:40 am

Yup. 04 R1 top gear 4K = 95, 5K = 118.

 

Dunno abt the 06 FZ1. Same engine, so should be the same speed at given rpm. But they may not have the same gear ratio across the board.

 

R1 has a very tall first gear, followed by close ratios up to 6. 1st gear is good for about 160kph (though you'd risk an insane wheelie doing that). Usually on the street, I'd use 1st gear up to abt 50 or 60 kph before going to 2nd.

 

Not sure whether the FZ1 has the same tall first gear....

The fz1 has a lower 1st gear then the 04R1 . But i can feel tat the pull is stronger then the r1 . Reaching 160km/h take a longer time on the FZ1 . But , the FZ1 run slightly less hotter then the04R1 , i seldom see 90deg celcius on my FZ1 . Fuel consumption is almost the same at arnd 220-260km till reserve .

[Speedpass]

Originally posted by katana@January 24, 2007 06:44 am

ur current tyre lor

good grip n good mileage, i went to track with this tyre, not bad liao wor

I fishtail a few times in the wet leh . Looks like corner grip not tat good , but long distance is good .

[PreluDe]

Originally posted by senate747@January 24, 2007 12:38 pm

bro, there's one in bike production, selling at 11k machine price, with tank bra, headlight protectors, and givi side boxes. the bike is 10mths old n mileage is only 8k plus. nt a bad price. go check it out. It's FBA plate.... i also wanted to get it n ride a fazer again but settled for a S4 spec 1 after calculating cos i'm driving as well..

this bike was sold off last week when i reach ,

 

it was a lady rider

 

the pricing everythings is worth it

 

bagster tankbras,givi side box all include

[Murpies]

Originally posted by DeusExMachina@January 27, 2007 11:40 am

The FZ6 is def more powerful than an S4. I've owned an S4, R1 and Fazer 6 (carb version).

 

The FZ6 will def pick up faster than the S4. 50% more CC. But when cruising, I noticed that they're not geared that much differently.

 

At top gear,

5K rpm for S4 = 80kph

5K rpm for F6 = 95kph

5K rpm for R1 = 118kph

 

When touring, speed vs rpm becomes an issue. As you want to maintain a nice comfortable speed without prolonging your time on the road, yet you don't want your bike to run at high rpms too long.... reducing fuel consump and engine stress.

 

The S4 does around 150 at 8+ to 9+K rpm

The F6 does it at around 7+ to 8+K.

 

The R1 will do it at 6+K only.

 

When you think abt running here to Cameron highland at 160kph average (for a nice 5 - 6 hour ride) , then you'll realize how much stress you're putting on the 3 diff classes of bikes.

i wonder how much stress you're putting on the 3 diff classes rider's back then on their bikes. Cos while doing touring riding posture, wind protection is important too. A upright riding posture is much more comfortable, don't you agreed. I do agreed a 1000cc sport bike are powerful but it for performance on the track thus Doing touring is a pain in the ass. Fazer6 can cruise at 160km/h at ease wif a big shield tat protect me from the wind (which S4 don't have at stock). i had done countless trips exp. cameroon highland, Faser Hill ect with a breeze. BTW tats my opinion.

[LollyPoP]

Originally posted by fazermurpies@January 30, 2007 12:04 pm

i wonder how much stress you're putting on the 3 diff classes rider's back then on their bikes. Cos while doing touring riding posture, wind protection is important too. A upright riding posture is much more comfortable, don't you agreed. I do agreed a 1000cc sport bike are powerful but it for performance on the track thus Doing touring is a pain in the ass. Fazer6 can cruise at 160km/h at ease wif a big shield tat protect me from the wind (which S4 don't have at stock). i had done countless trips exp. cameroon highland, Faser Hill ect with a breeze. BTW tats my opinion.

dun mind mi asking, u were doing 160km/hr with full load (2 side & 1 top box)

or u alone on e bike?

[redders]

for fazer 180km/hr oso u can cruise easily(at 2nd link of course)..

even though u are alone or wif pillion doesnt really make much difference.

 

do doubt sports will be tiring.. but den don forget we are not riding like 2 or 3 hrs solid. coz we will be stopping rite..

same goes wif fazer,even though its comfortable riding posture,don tell me u can ride for very long..

yr body not aching but will tire yr eyes as well..

[DeusExMachina]

Originally posted by fazermurpies@January 30, 2007 12:04 pm

i wonder how much stress you're putting on the 3 diff classes rider's back then on their bikes. Cos while doing touring riding posture, wind protection is important too. A upright riding posture is much more comfortable, don't you agreed. I do agreed a 1000cc sport bike are powerful but it for performance on the track thus Doing touring is a pain in the ass. Fazer6 can cruise at 160km/h at ease wif a big shield tat protect me from the wind (which S4 don't have at stock). i had done countless trips exp. cameroon highland, Faser Hill ect with a breeze. BTW tats my opinion.

 

 

The S4 suffered a lot. FZ6 also suffer quite a bit.

 

Only the R1 stayed below 10K for the most part. Surprisingly the 04R1 didn't gimme back ache, and it was my favorite of all when I hit Pos Slim n Gua Musang.

 

I like to reduce my travel time.

[hydrop]

Originally posted by senate747@January 21, 2007 02:20 am

when u want to sell, rem to look for me. ur bike mileage super low..

i think now is about 6500km... 21 months old liaoz

[LollyPoP]

Originally posted by redders@January 30, 2007 03:39 pm

for fazer 180km/hr oso u can cruise easily(at 2nd link of course)..

even though u are alone or wif pillion doesnt really make much difference.

 

do doubt sports will be tiring.. but den don forget we are not riding like 2 or 3 hrs solid. coz we will be stopping rite..

same goes wif fazer,even though its comfortable riding posture,don tell me u can ride for very long..

yr body not aching but will tire yr eyes as well..

errr, i'm sry but u're refering to a 1000 or 600?

[PreluDe]

Originally posted by fat grape@January 24, 2007 07:15 pm

bro, any idea how much bike production is selling FZ1'07 for?

that will depending your age too

 

got my at 18k otr

 

compare to other dealer much more X

 

like aspoon 19.5 machine price

 

no offence cos did make a research

[hit.man]

Originally posted by LollyPoP@January 30, 2007 11:18 pm

errr, i'm sry but u're refering to a 1000 or 600?

I think he is referring to 1000

[hit.man]

Originally posted by PreluDe@January 31, 2007 05:07 am

that will depending your age too

 

got my at 18k otr

 

compare to other dealer much more X

 

like aspoon 19.5 machine price

 

no offence cos did make a research

18k OTR is cheap~! May I ask how much is your insurance and for what age?

 

My 22 years old friend got his from HL at 21k +++

[Speedpass]

Originally posted by DeusExMachina@January 30, 2007 04:46 pm

 

The S4 suffered a lot. FZ6 also suffer quite a bit.

 

Only the R1 stayed below 10K for the most part. Surprisingly the 04R1 didn't gimme back ache, and it was my favorite of all when I hit Pos Slim n Gua Musang.

 

I like to reduce my travel time.

The 04r1 was voted best sports bike to tour on by fast bike , winning the blackbird & k6 .

 

Anyway the 04 r1 really was a good ride when i took it to ipoh last yr .

[PreluDe]

Originally posted by friedfishz@January 31, 2007 09:55 am

18k OTR is cheap~! May I ask how much is your insurance and for what age?

 

My 22 years old friend got his from HL at 21k +++

27 $1200 for first year insurance , second year will be cheaper

[fat grape]

Originally posted by PreluDe@January 31, 2007 12:13 pm

27 $1200 for first year insurance , second year will be cheaper

when did you purchase yr bike?

[Speedpass]

Originally posted by PreluDe@January 31, 2007 12:13 pm

27 $1200 for first year insurance , second year will be cheaper

I got mine at $800 . Dunno how bike shop do for me . But tis yr NTUC quote me $900++ .

[ozzarhomb]

now u guys are refering to insurance for FZ1 right? or for FZ6? :confused:

[Speedpass]

Originally posted by ozzarhomb@January 31, 2007 02:45 pm

now u guys are refering to insurance for FZ1 right? or for FZ6? :confused:

FZ1 lah .

[fat grape]

Originally posted by Speedpass@January 31, 2007 02:35 pm

I got mine at $800 . Dunno how bike shop do for me . But tis yr NTUC quote me $900++ .

huh.. how come ntuc increase yr premium? care to share?