Product : Brake Pads Discussion

[kunz]

Originally posted by KawBoy@Aug 24 2004, 12:05 PM

Hello all,

 

There seems to be a great deal of confusion about this topic.

 

Firstly, since we are selling DP brakes the immediate impression we will expect from posting would be that this post is biased. We are not here to promote our product but to set some things right. Have it your way after you finish this post.

 

The number of people here who are keen on cheap brake pads make up the main bulk. Certainly there is nothing wrong with getting the best value for money. But is it really value for money?

 

Brake pads can cost anywhere from $2-$240 a set and there's good reason why. Performance brake pads costs more because they cost more to make and thus they deliver more. Cheap pads are made with cost savings in mind and not brake performance so there's a wide divide in the kind of performance you can expect between the two. If anything, the number of cheap pads available has increased here and many same brands are actually repacked versions of the same thing from the same factories.

 

The reason why many customers in Singapore do not accept performance pads is because they do not ride their machines very hard, nor do they need to. This train of thought is further compounded by small bike owners who think that they would not require better brake pads than the "standard" types available. This could not be further than the truth.

 

While small bike owners and some commuting customers subscribe heavily to that belief, they often ignore the fact that the brakes are the most important part of the motorcycle. Displacement, machine type, or kind of use really does not matter when accidents happen. Mostly, panic braking is a result of poor braking, and as a result, wheel lock occurs and thus an accident happen. But usually the road surface is blamed for it, it was wet, sandy, or maybe the other party was too sudden in their actions. Whatever it is, if one has consistent and good braking practice, these could have been avoided.

 

Cheap pads will not provide consistent performance in different conditions. And consistency is important especially when riding on the streets when progressive braking is key. Especially in a rain, cheap brake pads fade easily. What is really required are brakes you can trust. Something that is predictable and consistent in delivery of braking performance.

 

While the cost of good brake pads are high, they will save you undue pain, inconvenience, and unpleasantness in general. Find out how much a fracture costs in medical bills, add the inconveniences and multiply it by pain. You'll get the idea.

 

There is no logic too in using $20 dollars brake pads on a $20k R1. Would the same owner put cheap tires on the bike too?

kudos to your brilliant command of the language.. one of the most impressively effective posts that i have personally come across here.. an important message that will definitely stay with many people, at least for me.. so thanks!

[KawBoy]

kunz,

 

Thanks I hope it finds more receptive audience here.

[A3roSmith]

Originally posted by KawBoy@Sep 27 2004, 02:58 PM

kunz,

 

Thanks I hope it finds more receptive audience here.

im still waiting for the pads in my size

[KawBoy]

A3roSmith,

 

Here after the MotoGP mate.

 

Cheers.

[Wayang]

i'm usin vesrah pads for my nissin calipers.. i find they perform decently n surprisinly cheap.. if i can recall correctly they r abt half price as compared to my original pads..

[Throttle]

i would recommend EBC HH rated brakepads. $70 a pair is quite value for money. excellent grip and no squeaks.

 

don need to save on such things

[chee_teck]

Originally posted by luN@Feb 6 2004, 11:02 AM

I think Feroddo has three type of brake pad for bikes.

Red packing = normal ceramic compound

Purple packing = sinstered

Another type is of higher range.

I can only see these two model in the market so far? Any one saw others?

I just bought Ferodo Platinum for $15 from LAB. Silver and Red packaging.....dunno if this is the one u talking bout

 

kenneth

[S4Sixty]

Originally posted by KawBoy@Aug 24 2004, 12:05 PM

There is no logic too in using $20 dollars brake pads on a $20k R1. Would the same owner put cheap tires on the bike too?

No offence to your post, but u might be surprised there are some who do.

 

Cheers !

[redname]

Originally posted by chee_teck@Oct 16 2004, 01:02 PM

I just bought Ferodo Platinum for $15 from LAB. Silver and Red packaging.....dunno if this is the one u talking bout

 

kenneth

gd price u got it for

[ash999]

hi bros,me riding x9 .Going to change brake pad soon.Read frm the posts here and gt 1 question to ask

 

U all change the brake pad,but does the bike shop charge workmanship for changing the brake pad .And hw much is the market rate??Coz me just change my rear for $20 (some yama....funny brand frm tai hin) they charge another $20 for workmanship...

 

So maybe we can list down the brake pad price and the motorshop workmanship price so newbie can look for refer.thk

 

Lastly,which motorshop change pad without changing u the workmanship for changing pad

[KawBoy]

S4Sixty,

 

No offense taken. I would agree with you that there are many out there who miss the point.

 

Where's the cost savings in buying a big expensive bike? To resort to scrimping on maintenance after the bike is bought is highly irrational, well at least for us.

 

There are also some who delay oil changes and put cheap oil in their big bikes. Are they part of some product testing division?

 

The reason why this is prevalent here is because it appeals very directly to the individual's. Everyone is seeking to maximise his/her own benefits so cheap ripoffs will always be here to stay. It's much easier for a mechanic to appeal to you to save money than to try and persuade the customer to spend a little more. And the winner in the end is the seller who just rakes in the dollars.

 

It's easy to press the "save money" button to clinch a sale. And thereafter the overall impression is that of making a smart and informed buy by choosing the cheaper and "usable" option. And when the purchased item fails, it is easily relegated to that of a cheap product having "served it's time". A normal response for not wanting to feel bad about making the purchase in the first place.

 

A not so recent credit card promotion campaign went "spend more save more", it had us in stitches... Does that tell you something?

 

We believe in using the right tool for the job and in line with this so are our products aligned. There are a few other sellers in the market who also carry good products here. Then there are many sellers who sell anything so long as the people keep buying.

 

The none discerning customer stands to lose more in the end. Brake pads and tires are crucial to proper road holding and control. Just think about it.

[S4Sixty]

Yes u are right in a way.

But there are some shops who believe since they carry high end products, they can show attitude and also charge high prices since no ones else carries them.

 

sometime this makes us buyers resort to other products which are cheaper.

 

So if retailers sell products at affordable prices instead of cut throat prices, maybe we'll see increase of end users using end end products.

 

Cheers !

[Guest koma]

anyone knoes any place other than hkl that sells ebc brake pads??

[Exhaus-tion]

looi's

[Guest koma]

Originally posted by Exhaus-tion@Oct 18 2004, 05:22 PM

looi's

ok 10s

[Cool79]

Originally posted by koma@Oct 19 2004, 03:39 PM

ok 10s

anyone got any comment abt new fren???

n where to get it

[Exhaus-tion]

Originally posted by Cool79@Oct 24 2004, 12:50 PM

anyone got any comment abt new fren???

n where to get it

got it at motoworld. very squeeky, otherwise its quite a good pair of brakes wet n dry....

[Non Stop Racing]

ani know how much is the bremo brake system ?will it improve braking? or sud i install the steel braised hose or sumthing .. advice ani~ tks !

[sleepingnemo]

Originally posted by Non Stop Racing@Nov 3 2004, 08:10 AM

ani know how much is the bremo brake system ?will it improve braking? or sud i install the steel braised hose or sumthing .. advice ani~ tks !

u may try sporting motor at mah pte

[S4Sixty]

Originally posted by Non Stop Racing@Nov 3 2004, 08:10 AM

ani know how much is the bremo brake system ?will it improve braking? or sud i install the steel braised hose or sumthing .. advice ani~ tks !

Why not get Tokico(dunno how to spell) 6 pots ? Like the ones they use on 1000cc SRADs or Kawas coupled with EBC full floater rotors.....

[RxzDelux]

Originally posted by S4Sixty@Nov 7 2004, 04:21 PM

Why not get Tokico(dunno how to spell) 6 pots ? Like the ones they use on 1000cc SRADs or Kawas coupled with EBC full floater rotors.....

Wait later the bike Endow. How? Hehehe

[Kinz]

Hmmm masters... wanna check... now my stock krr the brake will not eat during rain.... so now issit i must change my pads and my hose to steel braided hose???? if pads, then wat brand?? cos i quite interested SBS but sum say it finish within 4months... and the steel braided hose... i heard pple like HEL brand alot but i also noe it qutie exp... cos around hundred plus for just the front rite???? so is there ani other cheap and good steel braided hose??

[redname]

Originally posted by Kinz@Nov 7 2004, 05:15 PM

Hmmm masters... wanna check... now my stock krr the brake will not eat during rain.... so now issit i must change my pads and my hose to steel braided hose???? if pads, then wat brand?? cos i quite interested SBS but sum say it finish within 4months... and the steel braided hose... i heard pple like HEL brand alot but i also noe it qutie exp... cos around hundred plus for just the front rite???? so is there ani other cheap and good steel braided hose??

its normal for disc brakes to be not so effective when rain

[Kinz]

reallly meh???? u mean sum bikes dun use disc brake??? but i find it way too dangerous without the feeling of brake for 1 sec... and i really need to press quite hard for front and rear brake...

[redname]

huh? u nvr heard of drum brakes b4 meh? u take license tht time also shld have tried drums brakes cause the bikes there use drum brakes for rear.

 

its always gd to use better brake pads but when raining tht time, u can also jus squeeze the brakes a few times to get rid of the water while riding