RSAF serviceman's wife dies in road accident

[Winners]

RSAF serviceman's wife dies in road accident

 

Didn't I always say that many Sinkie drivers are dangerous drivers? Can always see these on our local roads and expressways. Not a single day will pass without the reporting of a few vehicle accidents on the radio.

 

And to make things worse, our useless Traffic Police are forever reluctant to enforce the laws meted to these drivers, so these dangerous drivers will never learn. If 1 is on the road daily, definitely will come across encounters with road bullies and inconsiderate drivers almost every day.

 

Don't know when these people will ever learn. In this case, being able to fly doesn't mean that you can drive equally well.

Edited January 1, 2012 by Winners

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RSAF serviceman's wife dies in road accident

 

Didn't I always say that many Sinkie drivers are dangerous drivers? Can always see these on our local roads and expressways. Not a single day will pass without the reporting of a few vehicle accidents on the radio.

 

And to make things worse, our useless Traffic Police are forever reluctant to enforce the laws meted to these drivers, so these dangerous drivers will never learn. If 1 is on the road daily, definitely will come across encounters with road bullies and inconsiderate drivers almost every day.

 

Don't know when these people will ever learn. In this case, being able to fly doesn't mean that you can drive equally well.

 

ummm.... he died in idaho usa.. so.... your point being????

[Lexanez]

Think he meant that where ever the drivers' go, there'll be trouble. Due to the driving culture here.

[Winners]

ummm.... he died in idaho usa.. so.... your point being????

 

Brother, I'm sure he got his driving license in Singapore.

 

He should have known better that he has 5 lives (3 children, a wife and a mother-in-law) under his care in the van. No matter under what circumstances, he should have given priority to the lives of these people, especially in an area where he is not too familiar and in wintry conditions.

 

If he were alone in the van, then whatever actions he takes will only have the implication on himself. But instead, he will now live with remorse for a long time for being the cause of his wife's death and hopefully, not to include another of his children, who was reported to be in critical condition.

 

If you had been in a traffic accident before and the cause of it is entirely not your fault, only then can you realized the pain, suffering, perpetual scars on your toes, knees, arms, elbows, wrists and fingers which will never go away, damages and cost of repairs to your vehicle/motorcycle, etc, etc. And especially if you are a motorcyclist, you and your pillion would have suffered all the above whilst the other driver only had to bear with a dented bumper. How do you feel?

 

If you are the one at fault, then you can only blame yourself, but if the other party is entirely at fault, definitely you will garner extreme anger and hatred towards the other driver for being careless, inconsiderate and arrogant, having the worst driving skills, whilst you and your pillion will have to endure with all the injuries and eternal scars on your limbs for life.

 

Yet, our fu.cking traffic police will just give a stern warning to the other driver at the end of their 1-year investigation. Do you think this is justified? Will that driver ever learn from his mistakes? He will have the impression: "Why, it's only a warning after all, nothing serious. No points, no summons, no suspension, no big deal. I'll just return to my old driving habits as usual".

 

I "applaud" our traffic police to go on being lenient to our drivers at fault and they will be busying themselves with more traffic accidents on our roads and hopefully, they will have relatives or friends riding bikes and got into a fatal accident on the road. Only in this way, will they reckon their past complacency in not enforcing a harsher penalty on those arrogant and reckless drivers on our roads and expressways.

[Winners]

Think he meant that where ever the drivers' go, there'll be trouble. Due to the driving culture here.

 

Brother, thanks for the clarification.

[Jehuty]

Because killing people on the road makes for a booming organ transplant business.

Moral of the story, wear your seatbelts, make sure your passengers wear seatbelts especially on unfamiliar roads, you suck at driving or both.

[Balfour]

Totally agreed.

I reali wish that sometime they will reali look into the matter more carefully

Especially for riders most of the time we will end up in a losing situation for example when we were trying to avoid a vehicle most probably we will end up self skid or hitting on to a vehicle

E vehicle that cause the accident tat wasn't hit will simply face traffic offence demerit points?fine?

settle lioa!!!or best drive off happily as ther is no injury or so called didn't involve in e accident

Bt wat about e rider??!!death,injuries, scars for lifetime,settlement of bike damage, medical,payment for the vehicle they hit,loss of income,future higher insurance??is this fair to us rider??we nd to have contact wit the vehicle en we can claim them??its our life in the line y risk it when u can avoid??i hope one day this theory will change soon or more victim will get to taste this bitterness

[DeusExMachina]

So I guess you're all psychics or clairvoyants who knew exactly what happened in that accident. Or maybe you all already know that the serviceman wanted it to happen eh?

 

"It quoted 366th Fighter Wing commander, Colonel Ron Buckley, as saying: "We are mourning the tragic loss of an essential member of our Gunfighter family. Whether you're from Singapore or the US, you become a Gunfighter when you are assigned to Mountain Home Air Force Base. Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family and friends of this valued member of our community."

 

Americans express sympathy. But his fellow Singaporeans express only scorn.

 

Well done, ppl.

 

Well fuccking done.

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So I guess you're all psychics or clairvoyants who knew exactly what happened in that accident. Or maybe you all already know that the serviceman wanted it to happen eh?

 

 

 

Americans express sympathy. But his fellow Singaporeans express only scorn.

 

Well done, ppl.

 

Well fuccking done.

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[Winners]

Well the report did state that he tried to overtake a half-size trailer like vehicle, was unsuccessful, probably hit the kerb and turned turtle. Why? Nobody had crashed against his van. Nobody is to blame except the driver himself. Frankly, I have no sympathy for such driver.

 

I've realized that most sinkie drivers are impatient, hazardous and always with poor judgement. I have experienced and are still experiencing many of such instances on our roads and expressways. These people will never learn until something like this had happened.

 

He will surely live with remorse for causing the death of his wife.

Edited January 3, 2012 by Winners

[Cpt.ZR]

dont so bad la. who knows there is a banana skin on the road. cmon man just lost his wife... RIP to his family.

 

he belongs to the F15 side...

[cougar]

U all do realise Sg govt only bend backwards for the rich, who all invariably drives and dont rides. TP enforcer could have done their very best and catched all these culprits already, but the dog makes the decisions to be lenient. Further more its good to decimate the biking community, because bikers got balls, not as docile as drivers, maybe also decimate their opposition voters. Like Jehuty said, also our HOTA needs daily accidental organs for those sick and dying.

[Silent Hunter]

Cannot only blame TP, most of the time its the judge that screws up.

Give so light a sentence better don't give.

 

After receiving such a sentence the bugger will only laugh and continue the same old ways, maybe even more so, because now he/she can be assured that nothing will happen to him/her even if he anyhow drive on the road.

[Winners]

Why the media is expressing the American sympathy is because the media is playing emotional. If they were to express scorn remarks, they fear to get repercussions on their reputation.

 

If there had been a 2-vehicle collision, then I would admit that there is a 50% chance that this driver could be a victim.

 

We have to be rational and don't simply give sympathy for the sake of being emotional and just because there was a loss of life. Otherwise the person will never realize his mistakes and never learn. Eventually, he may go on with his old habits and causes more accidents again in future, either in America, in Sinkapore, or elsewhere wherever he's driving again.

 

Anyway, what I had posted above are my own views and from my own experience with encountering with many sinkie drivers in Sinkapore on our roads and expressways. I reiterate again that many sinkie drivers are impatient, reckless, arrogant and with poor/bad driving skills and sense of judgement. And our fu.cking Traffic Police is not helping by being lenient towards the sentencing of those errant drivers. They are paid princely sum every month but are not doing what they are supposed to, and will only fake their investigations, drag for a long time (to show that they are indeed "working and investigating" on the case) and then give a template (canned) verdict as with most traffic accidents.

 

At this rate, I can only see more accidents on our roads and expressways because errant drivers are simply being let off lightly by our fu.cking Traffic Police. Ride with care brothers.

[DeusExMachina]

And yet, this serviceman on the other side of the globe has had nothing to do with you all. But still he become the target of scorn and a scapegoat for other bast4rds that you see on the road today.

 

OK la. I can understand that.

 

Tonight, I go abruptly cut in front of some car driver. Cause him to jam brake or swerve, and curse and swear at me.

 

Tomorrow, if one of you buang, you'll probably deserve it from some driver's POV, because of what I did.

 

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[Winners]

Tonight, I go abruptly cut in front of some car driver. Cause him to jam brake or swerve, and curse and swear at me.

 

Only an irresponsible person will talk and act in this manner, dude. And do take care for the driver may not be given the chance to curse and swear at you anymore.

 

Another question in mind is the occupants in the van had already disregard for the laws to begin with: Why wasn't the wife put on the seat belt and why did the husband not insisted on it?

Edited January 4, 2012 by Winners

[DeusExMachina]

Only an irresponsible person will talk and act in this manner, dude. And do take care for the driver may not be given the chance to curse and swear at you anymore.

 

Another question in mind is the occupants in the van had already disregard for the laws to begin with: Why wasn't the wife put on the seat belt and why did the husband not insisted on it?

 

 

Let's assume for a moment that I am that irreponsible. So I bring a bad name to all bikers.

 

Tomorrow, touchwood, you get into a minor mishap not of your own doing, or just out of bad luck.

And instead of a driver coming down to help you pick up your machine, he posts on HWZ or Carma or whatever other car forums abt some idiot biker who buang due to his own stupidity or recklessness.

 

I mean. Sh1t happens right? And all bikers are the same, just like all car drivers are the same. Since I ride like a frakking assh0le, that automatically means that you ride like a bunghole too just because you're a biker like me.

 

 

BTW, just asking. You ever rode in slippers, or berms? Open face helmet? Your pillion did the same?

Not touring or going to town of course. Let's just say you were heading one street down to the store or supermarket.

 

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[Winners]

Let's assume for a moment that I am that irreponsible. So I bring a bad name to all bikers.

 

Tomorrow, touchwood, you get into a minor mishap not of your own doing, or just out of bad luck.

And instead of a driver coming down to help you pick up your machine, he posts on HWZ or Carma or whatever other car forums abt some idiot biker who buang due to his own stupidity or recklessness.

 

I have already said before in 1 of my earlier posts, if the accident is due to my fault like if I skidded by myself, I jolly well deserve it, not only for the injuries but also for the ridicules that follow. However, if there is another party which had contributed to the accident, then definitely there will be at least 2 vehicles (1 of which is my bike) involved. And if the Traffic Police is not going to enforce their laws accordingly and fairly, then what's the use of having those fu.cking laws in the first place?

 

I mean. Sh1t happens right? And all bikers are the same, just like all car drivers are the same. Since I ride like a frakking assh0le, that automatically means that you ride like a bunghole too just because you're a biker like me.

 

I never said all drivers are the same. Quote me where did I say this? I did mention that "most Sinkie drivers are.........." So, don't compromise what I have said.

 

BTW, just asking. You ever rode in slippers, or berms? Open face helmet? Your pillion did the same?

Not touring or going to town of course. Let's just say you were heading one street down to the store or supermarket.

 

Not in slippers nor bermudas because I don't wear bermudas anyway. In strapped sandals and long pants most of the time. There is no law to forbid the wearing of sandals and long pants whilst riding a bike and until there is such a law to be regimented, than you can say that I also did not abide to it. Will I get a fine and demerit points for wearing long pants and strapped sandals whilst riding? You should know very well yourself.

 

Anyway, I don't understand why you are so disturbed by what I have said so far? Are you in some way related to the deceased or the serviceman? My objective is to express my frustration on the leniency being displaced by our Traffic Police towards errant drivers and in doing so, these errant drivers will never learn, but continue with their bad driving habits. In every accident involving a bike and a car, definitely the biker will receive the worst ending. I'm sure every sensible bike forummers in here will agree with me.

 

I do have the opinion that this serviceman had flouted the laws. Why wasn't the wife on a seat belt? Why did he overtook a long vehicle without any due consideration of his passenges' safety? Why was his sense of judgement so poor?

 

I have driven from Milan to Venice and also to the Swiss border in Italy on several occasions and my vehicle ranges from station wagons to minivans, according the delegation which I lead. I had to bring my customers on those business and recreation trips. At all times, I will practice utmost safety in mind because these are my customers and I should not compromise their lives, not to mention my ex-company's reputation.

Edited January 4, 2012 by Winners

[DeusExMachina]

 

My objective is to express my frustration on the leniency being displaced by our Traffic Police towards errant drivers and in doing so, these errant drivers will never learn, but continue with their bad driving habits.

 

 

I'm not related in anyway to the dude. Nor do I know him.

 

You said that your objective: My objective is to express my frustration on the leniency being displaced by our Traffic Police towards errant drivers and in doing so, these errant drivers will never learn, but continue with their bad driving habits.

 

So my question is, beside him being a Singaporean, what does crashing and losing his wife in Idaho have to do with your tirade? Thousands of US drivers die on the road every year. More than Singaporeans in fact.

 

Hell, those ppl who drive in bigger countries with longer distances, more inclement weather than our sunny, mild Singapore; they're at bigger risk than the regular shmuck here who thinks that Tuas to Changi is a big frakking deal. Even driving on our E'ways and the NSH is already different enough.

 

You wanna make an example? Go complain in "Today while riding..." the next time some asswipe driver cuts you off along the PIE or CTE. That'll be more relevant. We don't even know how this serviceman lost control. The last thing he needs is some know-it-all bikers halfway across the world correlating driving in the US and driving in SG.

 

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[Jehuty]

Let just mourn his death shall we? Someone died, end of story...and a strong reminder that if you intend to take a risk, make jolly well sure that you know what to do, what to expect in case **** happens. For his scenario, he tempted fate and lost. Sinkie drivers are horrible creatures, TP and LTA enforces it with leniency. Please clamp down on taxi drivers especially old fogeys with dropping spectacles who keeps asking you PIE or AYE and talk about how bad gahmen is but votes for PAP.

[Winners]

So my question is, beside him being a Singaporean, what does crashing and losing his wife in Idaho have to do with your tirade? Thousands of US drivers die on the road every year. More than Singaporeans in fact.

 

 

You wanna make an example? Go complain in "Today while riding..." the next time some asswipe driver cuts you off along the PIE or CTE. That'll be more relevant. We don't even know how this serviceman lost control. The last thing he needs is some know-it-all bikers halfway across the world correlating driving in the US and driving in SG.

 

You still don't follow me. You may be correct that I may have started this thread in a wrong category, but what is wrong with the CHAT category either? Tell me. Is it anything wrong to bring this matter up for CHATting and pondering? If I had put this up in GARAGE SALES, then maybe you can criticize me. Who are you? Do you own this forum? By the way, you are getting "off topic" in this debate due to the above.

 

And you keep saying "halfway across the world". Does it matter even if it's in America, Malaysia or Sinkapore? Tell me where's the difference? It's still a human in control of a mechanical machine.

 

"..my question is, beside him being a Singaporean, what does crashing and losing his wife in Idaho have to do with your tirade?"

This is a case where the driver had crashed the vehicle due to his own carelessness, overconfident (in overtaking the trailer), reckless driving, poor sense of judgement and driving skills. He had tried to overtake a trailer-like vehicle, loss control of his vehicle and crashed by his own actions. It's not a multiple vehicle collision where he could have been a victim and he may have my sympathy. But, he only has himself to blame for this crash and it doesn't matter whether it happened in Idaho or Sinkapore. Due to the above, a mother of 3 children was lost unnecessarily, albeit not to his original intention. Indirectly, if not for being a vehicle accident case, he could even be charged for manslaughter. He has disregarded his responsibility towards those human lives under his care in his vehicle. And this kind of action could have happened even if he's driving in Sinkapore, due to his nature of driving.

 

If you want to get emotional and show your pity towards this Sinkie driver, by all means, nobody is stopping you. However, you aren't doing any good towards inculcating a safer driving environment. You are a biker yourself and if you had never been involved in an accident before, I wish you good luck.

Edited January 5, 2012 by Winners

[DeusExMachina]

Ah. So now it's all about "This is Chatter Box, so I can bring up this matter just to chat".

 

I already said it, and I reiterate.

- Thousands of ppl die on the road everyday worldwide.

- More Americans die on American roads, than Singaporeans dying on American roads... or even Singapore roads themselves.

- Singaporeans, most of whom have less long distance driving, or even driving, experience on foreign roads are usually more likely to make a mistake. Our Serviceman here could be a safe driver at home, but totally screwed up on that American road.

- Weather conditions, traffic conditions, road conditions, etc etc in other country is different from SG roads. Even driving to Thailand on the NSH already presents a completely driving experience than our expressways. This one happened on a LHD vehicle on a US road.

 

 

 

Finally, my point is that. You may think you're doing a service to the biking community. But you're not. You're just making this guy your scapegoat for your rant on Singaporean drivers. That's not a problem in itself, except that your basis is weak because he had the accident very far away from SG, on a LHD road, in conditions that don't occur in SG.

 

If you want to provide an example, or just release your frustration or hate, or whatever it is that's munching on your gonads, then find a local example.

 

chat chat chat chat chat.....

[Winners]

I don't want to waste any more of my time to counter with you on this issue. You are first in directing me to another topic category and now you are contradicting yourself. Just ride safe and make sure you don't get involved in a road accident with your bike, many of which are reported every day on our local radio networks. Not a single day passes by without hearing reports of road accidents on our roads and expressways. I'll just let the forummers here decide whether my contribution to this thread is relevant.

[DeusExMachina]

U really don't understand do you? LOL.

 

I'm not directing you to post anywhere.

I'm just "directing" you to use a more relevant example to justify or mask your anger at the system and society!

 

Relax brudder! Just smile more!

 

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[Winners]

U really don't understand do you? LOL.

 

I'm not directing you to post anywhere.

I'm just "directing" you to use a more relevant example to justify or mask your anger at the system and society!

 

 

You may have used some bombastic words in your earlier posts, but your English is in fact, only a shell in disguise, confusing and contradicting at times.