PG TRACK DAY 25th FEB '07

[Tortise]

Originally posted by KISS@February 25, 2007 07:01 pm

How many casualties today?

today casualties left right centre. scary man...

[fruitcakepablohoney]

Originally posted by Sub Zero@February 23, 2007 01:40 pm

You''ll be taking pictures then?

 

*crosses fingers and prays hard!!*

Think Saint sure took your pix coz you came in 3rd, congrates!

[NoLogicOne]

Originally posted by Newbie`41@February 25, 2007 08:30 pm

Big Thanks to NoLogicOne, edmundino, WW and the rest whom I don't know their names for helping me out when I was in a mess.

 

I'm Okay guys.. I'll be back once the bike is ready.

No problem.....cuz I always remember once upon a time when I was in a mess, along came Uncle Felix who helped me sort things out too

[unblockable]

tke care to those who fall.. Hope nothing serious happen to the riders

Sure gonna get faster after the fall.

 

 

ani pics to update?

cant wait to see !!

[cagiva03]

Wah Bro Newbie`41, U alright??? A speedy recovery to u and see u soon in PG again!

[Tortise]

My Tribute to a Late Friend

[Saint21]

Pictures ready for viewing today... at Biketech after 6pm. I will run the slide show on my IBook. I got no time to upload into the photobucket as i got like 1000+ shots.

 

After that i will leave a thumbnail size folder there for ordering.

 

Only hard copy no soft copy.

[Sub Zero]

Originally posted by fruitcakepablohoney@February 25, 2007 11:24 pm

Think Saint sure took your pix coz you came in 3rd, congrates!

Fruit cake!! You are evil!!! Muhahahahaha!

[Sub Zero]

Originally posted by Saint21@February 26, 2007 09:26 am

Pictures ready for viewing today... at Biketech after 6pm. I will run the slide show on my IBook. I got no time to upload into the photobucket as i got like 1000+ shots.

 

After that i will leave a thumbnail size folder there for ordering.

 

Only hard copy no soft copy.

Wow!

 

Thanx Saint!!

[acapbiker]

My friend vanbauer had a bad crash yesterday at PG. he's now at SGH. had a broken collarbone and thumb. going for operation to put 4 screws and a metal plate on his collarbone. any eye-witnesses?? because he himself could not figure out how he fell.. it was at turn 4 around 11.20am, which is way before the 5 lap race. he said that most probably his brake just jammed.

[Guest KISS]

Originally posted by acapbiker@February 26, 2007 12:28 pm

going for operation to put 4 screws and a metal plate on his collarbone.

 

he said that most probably his brake just jammed.

Ouch!! That hurts, boy.

 

Is your friend a regular at PG? How many hours have he clock at PG? I mean, how long have he been riding there?

 

Most crashes occurs because of human errors, either the rider himself or the others around you. And this is especially so on track days.

And newbies, because of their inexperience in pinpointing their own lack of skill or knowledge in riding, will always blame mechanical failure.

 

As in your friend, most probably the brakes jammed because he panicked when he realised he's not in control of the bike and unknowingly jammed the brakes. That's a rider first reaction when something about to goes wrong - jammed the brakes.

 

However, this is my assumption. It may not be true.

 

I wish your friend a speedy recovery. When someone crash, everyone loses except the bike shops.

[acapbiker]

Maybe you're right.. it was only his 2nd time at PG and his first track day. he is still quite new and being too keen in the corners i guess. he's riding an aprillia250 and his bike was quite badly damaged. he was actually flung off the bike but he couldn't tell whether he tank slapped or high sided. he only remembered his brakes jammed.. sigh.. let's all pray for a speedy recovery for him and hope this doesn't affect his enthusiasm on track in the future... but if there were anyone who was behind him and witnessed his crash, can share it with us. thanx...

[Sub Zero]

Originally posted by acapbiker@February 26, 2007 12:28 pm

My friend vanbauer had a bad crash yesterday at PG. he's now at SGH. had a broken collarbone and thumb. going for operation to put 4 screws and a metal plate on his collarbone. any eye-witnesses?? because he himself could not figure out how he fell.. it was at turn 4 around 11.20am, which is way before the 5 lap race. he said that most probably his brake just jammed.

Oh ok.. That was your friend... I heard he was pretty fast on the track..

 

The crash happened just before i saw him lying on the gravel.. I stopped coz i thot it was one of my own friends! But luckily the marshals were already there so i went off.

 

I hope he recovers... The thing is he crashed after turn 4... not at turn 4.. maybe his exit from the cover was too fast?

[acapbiker]

Hmmm.. crashed After turn 4?? that doesn't make sense.. he told me his brakes jammed.. normally u brake b4 entry.. not during exit.. or maybe his entry speed was too fast that he was braking even while exiting?? sigh.. that's y he himself doesn't understand the mechanics of how he crashed... and yup he is pretty fast on track.. he actually beat my timing on his first outing at PG.. but im a newbie myself.. hehe.. k thanks sub-zero for the info..

[Sub Zero]

Originally posted by acapbiker@February 26, 2007 02:53 pm

Hmmm.. crashed After turn 4?? that doesn't make sense.. he told me his brakes jammed.. normally u brake b4 entry.. not during exit.. or maybe his entry speed was too fast that he was braking even while exiting?? sigh.. that's y he himself doesn't understand the mechanics of how he crashed... and yup he is pretty fast on track.. he actually beat my timing on his first outing at PG.. but im a newbie myself.. hehe.. k thanks sub-zero for the info..

Hmm.. I suppose what happened could be he couldnt brake, but managed to clear the turn too wide and came far too out and crashed after the turn...

 

I hope he recovers well!

[Guest KISS]

Originally posted by Sub Zero@February 26, 2007 02:21 pm

Oh ok.. That was your friend... I heard he was pretty fast on the track..

 

Now I know why he crashed. He had only 2 sessions at the track and people have been commenting and hearing he's a fast rider. And the rider probably have heard those comments himself.

 

When we are good at the track and riders at the pit are commenting how fast you are, "wah you go in the corner very fast', "I never see you. Suddenly you behind me" and all these flattering comments, now, that's a recipe for disaster.

 

Take your time to know the track especially the Johor Circuit. It's one of the most challenging in the world.

[acapbiker]

That's possible.. but he said his lining was correct.. only his brakes jammed and caused him to flung off the bike during the turn.. aniwae have anyone ever experienced that b4?? and if i'm not wrong, he's using brembo brakes.. Is that brake capable of causing ur caliper to jam with e brake disc at high temperature due to excessive braking?? care to share so that me and others can learn as well...

[Tortise]

ever considered whether the piston jam?

[Tortise]

Btw the topic title is abit wrong. Syed told me there is track day every month. Next track day is in March...

 

[Tortise]

Btw kudos to all those who participated in the 5-lap races yesterday, especially the cubs and other small bikes who were game for it.

 

The Super4 had very good pickup, where did that come from?

 

[Guest KISS]

12 years ago, I highsided at Turn 2, got to the old Tan Tock Seng for ribs and chest injuries, and a total loss for my bike. I thought I'm going to die when the bike tossed me at such high speed.

 

I stayed away from PG for 15 mths. And I blame the 'front jammed brake' theory. Many years later, I came to the conclusion that I have probably jammed the brakes myself when the bike drifts out of Turn 2 heading to the gravels.

[Saint21]

Originally posted by acapbiker@February 26, 2007 02:04 pm

Maybe you're right.. it was only his 2nd time at PG and his first track day. he is still quite new and being too keen in the corners i guess. he's riding an aprillia250 and his bike was quite badly damaged. he was actually flung off the bike but he couldn't tell whether he tank slapped or high sided. he only remembered his brakes jammed.. sigh.. let's all pray for a speedy recovery for him and hope this doesn't affect his enthusiasm on track in the future... but if there were anyone who was behind him and witnessed his crash, can share it with us. thanx...

Let me know your friends details.... like suit color or bike color....

[5thRider]

Originally posted by Slowpoke34@February 26, 2007 04:29 pm

Btw the topic title is abit wrong. Syed told me there is track day every month. Next track day is in March...

 

It was correct at the time of posting leh.... But in any case, I'm glad to be wrong! Cheers Buddy!!!

[hirman88]

Originally posted by Slowpoke34@February 26, 2007 04:27 pm

ever considered whether the piston jam?

yup, maybe piston jam ...... 2stroke is sensitive bike ... i had my high side last year on T3 exit .... few broken bones ... but dats 2 wheels ......... ride safely.........

 

Example my crash is due to seize but this seize what i can say is my mistake ...never check my jets after did some changes it was running lean ...d bike was going smoothly on all turns n it never accelerate like wat i had preciously ..... kancong coz feeling shiok forget everything ....... wat 2 do 4+, mths never ride 2 wheels like mad man heheheheh .....den wham screeeechhh i fly .. wat i remember is fly den bam bam ouch down right hand pain (wrist) once stop see behind no bikes stand up use d left hand to hold d right wrist den run to the left -- like 100m dash quickly for safety den i lie down den all pain hehehehehhe ......

 

Open the gloves on medic center @ PG with my bro n saw my wrist like Z sh*t man broke my wrist call my wife i will met her @ NUH i crash ... badly but not so bad la broken bones but ok ....... important still alive ...

Back in SG NUH after X ray broken wrist ...collar bone n fracture thumb ...

 

ask me 2 ride a bike aiyo scary ... after 6 mth d crash den i try to use cycle around my home to get back on 2 wheels be4 dat only drove my car with left hand only......

 

I relax d whole yr last yr only back on bike frens nsr250 @ sepang on a track day .... shiok man can wait to test my rebuild nsr @ PG.

 

Anyway learn from your crash ..... not to do it again ..always thing its my mistake never check d bike in proper ...maybe open gas 2 early ....... anyway got several seize cylinder in PG n sepang ... d jets check d jets always kena scold ..........

 

Hope recover soon and to all ride safely n roads n circuits

[5thRider]

Originally posted by hirman88@February 26, 2007 06:20 pm

Anyway learn from your crash ..... not to do it again ..always thing its my mistake never check d bike in proper ...maybe open gas 2 early ....... anyway got several seize cylinder in PG n sepang ... d jets check d jets always kena scold ..........

 

Or change to 4 stroke... Break bone damn painful..