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Pilot Power is a single compound tyre.

 

The 2CT is dual compound and should last longer.

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Now Michelin produce Dual Compound tyre for use on most sportsbike..

 

There is no more single compound tyre for Michelin Sportbike tyre..

 

The 3 types of Michelin Sportbike tyres available are :-

 

Pilot Road is Dual compound (fixed- center is harder than side)

 

Pilot Power is Dual Compound (fixed- center is harder than side)

 

Power Race is Dual Compound (with more choices but also center is harder than side)

 

In my opinion, they shud create additional compound to add on in thier Menu for the Power Race.. Center softer than Side.. It will be good for Race Use so we will get a more even wear plus it will provide better grip during braking and powering out of corner thus preventing it from wheel spin.. :thumb:

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For clarification since it can be quite confusing:

 

For the POWER series tyres:

 

The Michelin Pilot Power is a single compound tyre.

http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/ImageServlet?imageCode=8910524894&codeSite=LP2R

 

The Michelin Pilot Power 2CT is a dual compound tyre.

http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/ImageServlet?imageCode=8910524932&codeSite=LP2R

 

The Pilot Power (which is a single compound tyre) is still available but has been superceded by the 2CT version.They may LOOK the same but they are NOT.

 

For the Pilot Road series of tyres:

 

The Pilot Road is a single compound tyre.

http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/ImageServlet?imageCode=8910525034&codeSite=LP2R

 

The Pilot Road 2 is a dual compound tyre.

http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/ImageServlet?imageCode=8910623482&codeSite=LP2R

 

Again, the Pilot Road has been superceded by the Pilot Road 2, although the Pilot Road is still available.

 

Please do take note of the full names of the tyres as you may not get what you bargained for if you did not mention the last part of the name.

 

For the POWER RACE series of tyres:

 

They come in 3 compounds, being soft, medium & medium soft

 

Soft: Front and rear are single compounds.

 

Medium: Front and rear are dual compounds.

 

Medium Soft: Front is a dual compound and the rear is a single compound

 

See diagram:

 

http://gestdoc.webmichelin.com/repository/backoffice/DocumentRepositoryServlet?codeDocument=1248&codeRepository=LP2R&codeRubrique=IMG_DIV

 

Michelin still do sell the single compound Pilot Roads, Pilot Power & Power Race tyres, as per their official website - Check it Out!

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For clarification since it can be quite confusing:

 

For the POWER series tyres:

 

The Michelin Pilot Power is a single compound tyre.

http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/ImageServlet?imageCode=8910524894&codeSite=LP2R

 

The Michelin Pilot Power 2CT is a dual compound tyre.

http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/ImageServlet?imageCode=8910524932&codeSite=LP2R

 

The Pilot Power (which is a single compound tyre) is still available but has been superceded by the 2CT version.They may LOOK the same but they are NOT.

 

from the picture, i can see that 2CT front tyre is smaller than the single compound tyre. remember, 2CT produces smaller front tyre

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from the picture, i can see that 2CT front tyre is smaller than the single compound tyre. remember, 2CT produces smaller front tyre

 

Amba, are you kidding me??? It's just a picture yo!

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been having difficulties of gettin a tyre.... i dunno wat tyre to get rite now... will be goin to PG dis sunday hopefully if it aint rainin... ive been using racetech for the last 2 yrs rite now thinking of switching to other brands...as racetech wears quite fast..... i'm not a frequent track rider but racetech givs me the xtra confidence while i'm on the road be it rain or shine....

 

i'm thinking of getting a good tyre for track n everyday road use but at the same time i'm only used to the 190/55 profile n dun intent to switch to 180/55. i'm juz spoilt for choice.. been thinkin of gettin either M3, powerace(medium compound) , 2CT, diablo corsaIII.

 

can sum1 enlighten me here... Thanx................

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can sumone enlighten me... im riding a cbr4.. i would like to know what is the best tyre for track use..? not many option for 2A i guess... thankz..

 

pilot sport.... bt 090, gpr 70,

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been having difficulties of gettin a tyre.... i dunno wat tyre to get rite now... will be goin to PG dis sunday hopefully if it aint rainin... ive been using racetech for the last 2 yrs rite now thinking of switching to other brands...as racetech wears quite fast..... i'm not a frequent track rider but racetech givs me the xtra confidence while i'm on the road be it rain or shine....

 

i'm thinking of getting a good tyre for track n everyday road use but at the same time i'm only used to the 190/55 profile n dun intent to switch to 180/55. i'm juz spoilt for choice.. been thinkin of gettin either M3, powerace(medium compound) , 2CT, diablo corsaIII.

 

can sum1 enlighten me here... Thanx................

 

If you spend most of your time on the roads, race oriented tires are actually less suitable. It is a well known fact that street tires (e.g. pilot power, M3, 2CT, DCIII) perform better on the streets, as they work well over a much wider temperature range, as well as superior wet weather performance.

 

Race tires (e.g. racetechs, powerace) are awsome once up to temperature, but the problem is, you will never reach those temperatures riding on the roads.

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can sumone enlighten me... im riding a cbr4.. i would like to know what is the best tyre for track use..? not many option for 2A i guess... thankz..

 

u can also try DOT race tyres like Metzeler Rennsport or Michelin Power Race....they both have sizes for 2A biks

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been having difficulties of gettin a tyre.... i dunno wat tyre to get rite now... will be goin to PG dis sunday hopefully if it aint rainin... ive been using racetech for the last 2 yrs rite now thinking of switching to other brands...as racetech wears quite fast..... i'm not a frequent track rider but racetech givs me the xtra confidence while i'm on the road be it rain or shine....

 

i'm thinking of getting a good tyre for track n everyday road use but at the same time i'm only used to the 190/55 profile n dun intent to switch to 180/55. i'm juz spoilt for choice.. been thinkin of gettin either M3, powerace(medium compound) , 2CT, diablo corsaIII.

 

can sum1 enlighten me here... Thanx................

 

trying out other tyres is a good thing to do.....

i used racetech in the past and tried pirelli diablo SC2 and like it alot. the pirelli gives u faster turn in.

 

still have yet to try metzeler power race, bridestone bt002 and dunlop sportmax GP

 

 

MJ's r6 is on pirelli SC2 on the road at the moment on 36 psi front rear.....dun see and problem in the dry or wet on the roads

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Amba, are you kidding me??? It's just a picture yo!

 

HEY!!!! i am dead serious

Don't just break your laptimes, SHATTER them!!

 

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HEY!!!! i am dead serious

 

Tamade Hun Dan, how can you draw such a conclusion from a picture????

 

Of course they are the same size lah...

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but where can i get those DOT race tyres for 2A...? which bike shop..?

 

Try HKL or something, I know for a fact that the tyres are available even though you may not see them as they are not as common.

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thanx guys.......ur advices r much appreciated...... :)

 

 

but pirellis r super expensive...... the price difference compared to michelins n metzellers r way too wide......its crazy......! ive make my choice, its either M3 or power race medium compound.... wink! wink! hehehhehehehe.....

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thanx guys.......ur advices r much appreciated...... :)

 

 

but pirellis r super expensive...... the price difference compared to michelins n metzellers r way too wide......its crazy......! ive make my choice, its either M3 or power race medium compound.... wink! wink! hehehhehehehe.....

 

Hi Kingpet,

 

Looks like you are looking at Metzeler's M3 & Michelin's Power Race tyres.

 

However, if you are talking about track performance, then your decision will be swayed toward the Power Race tyre as it is a full on DOT race tyre, while the M3 is a Fast Road/Track tyre which is in the same category as Michelin's Pilot Power / Power 2CT tyre.

 

Suggest that you compare the M3 with the Power 2CT/Power.

 

If you want to compare the Michelin Power Race with a Metzeler, I suggest the Metzeler Race Tech K2.

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Hi Kingpet,

 

Looks like you are looking at Metzeler's M3 & Michelin's Power Race tyres.

 

However, if you are talking about track performance, then your decision will be swayed toward the Power Race tyre as it is a full on DOT race tyre, while the M3 is a Fast Road/Track tyre which is in the same category as Michelin's Pilot Power / Power 2CT tyre.

 

Suggest that you compare the M3 with the Power 2CT/Power.

 

If you want to compare the Michelin Power Race with a Metzeler, I suggest the Metzeler Race Tech K2.

 

thanx Hart, but if given the choice, wat tyre wud u suggest as u know i'm nt an avid track rider...but i do giv 100% on the track n always ride hard....

 

ur advice is much sought............ :)

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If you feel you push your own limits on the tracks, please choose Race tyres which would be Power Race, Racetech, Supercorsa, Diablo Supercorsa, etc.

 

Yes, I would agree a good rider could probably pass you on a Sportech M3, but many riders here would also agree that during a mistake (overbraking, running wide and the need to lean in more, etc) a race tyre is more forgiving because we are not riding to the limits of these race tyres yet. Damn, we even seen good riders knee dragging on Sports Touring tyres advertisements but they are test riders, way beyond (read better) our levels.

 

I hope you get the idea and settle for Dot race tyre since you said you give it 100%. Like all the experience guys here said, set up your suspensions properly, set your race pressure at home, warm up a couple of laps, tyres should not be the 1st thing on your mind while you are having fun in the track. I dun say you need not care about your tyres while in the track, but all you need to know is that you have a good set of worthy tyres that will hold up, and put your mind more for things like makers, lines, blah blah blah blah that you had been taught. When race tyres fade, it will tell you.

 

Cheers! I have always been using race tyres and made myself famous during Sepang as the slowest Duck then, but who cares? I came back home in 1 piece.

 

Ok, I admit I used Diablo Corsa and Continental ContiForce Max before in PG, but really, race tyres will always be race tyres. And I'm keen not to give it 100% because I am not discilpine and need someone to kick me in the arse always. Looking pretty on my bike and not crashing the bike had been my agenda always :lol:

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Hi Kingpet,

 

I have the same sentiments as NoLogicOne.

 

If you can, the DOT race tyres will give better grip, provided you take the necessary precautions like he described.

 

Get the best tyre you can.

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yo fellow bros'... well i got myself a powerace n i cn felt dat its much comparable wif racetech. the grip is second to none..... but gt problem wif tyre pressure coz my tyre really look koyak after yesterday trackday... usually i adopt a 28, 28 psi for front n rear for racetech n the worn is even wif no cold tear but yesterday i use 28, 28psi for powerace n the wear is terrible... u hav any suggestion wat pressure to use? my tyre size for rear is 180/55.

1 more thing... usually i encounter my rear tyre sliding while i'm using racetech but its a controlled type of slide but for powerace, no matter how i bank the corners theres no slide at all.. mayb i'm nt fast enuff.. haha!

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