Yamaha FJR1300

[Cybernation]

Originally posted by omnislash@Dec 11 2006, 07:35 PM

my rear wheel bearing just failed ytd... 78,000km. Not a very good news. worst thing is no one has stock for a particular bearing. Not even Hong Leong. Damn stupid. Tmr going to Kian Ho and SLS to see if thay can provide a substitute. This month damn sway... Dunno whose curse me.....

Maybe should service all your bearing every 20k.

[seahmh]

Originally posted by Cybernation@Dec 11 2006, 08:16 PM

Maybe should service all your bearing every 20k.

So it is a must to service the ball bearings every 20km?? How much is the ball bearing servicing?

 

By the way, can I ask how much to install a rear box(with a rear back seat cushion for the pillion rider) on the FJR? Since we have two side boxes, so I was thinking of installing just a small box(with back seat cushion) behind.

 

Thanks for any advice(s) given.

[Cybernation]

On the safe side if you do long distance riding often you should. Just by changing the wheel bearing is about 100 plus front and back depending on the kinda quality. I normally go for the better one.

 

The Givi box I have is Maxia. With the cushion it costed me about 300plus if I did not rem wrongly. If you are going for a smaller box the price is slightly cheaper lo.

[seahmh]

Originally posted by Cybernation@Dec 11 2006, 09:11 PM

On the safe side if you do long distance riding often you should. Just by changing the wheel bearing is about 100 plus front and back depending on the kinda quality. I normally go for the better one.

 

The Givi box I have is Maxia. With the cushion it costed me about 300plus if I did not rem wrongly. If you are going for a smaller box the price is slightly cheaper lo.

Both front and back bearings 100+?? Still acccpetable lah...

 

The better quality ones?? That will cost 200- 300 +???

 

A box with back cushion will cost 300++??

 

Ride big bike, everything also expensive...

 

 

Aiyah, I don't talk too much liao.. I go get my CL2 first... Once I get my FJR, then I seek your guys' advices...

 

Talk so much now, later sure kenna

[seahmh]

Originally posted by pinetreetmh@Dec 11 2006, 10:56 AM

btw i neber tell u he ride fjr and busa..

he got fjr and kawa zx12.. that bike more fierce...

Sorry, cybernation, I heard wrongly... Thot you riding a nicely mod Busa and has a FJR as your katar...

 

Your blue katar really nice...

[seahmh]

One more thing... I heard a friend saying that he read from SBF that a rider had his FJR side boxes broken open and stolen when the bike was parked at Suntec City and my friend was advicing me to look into better secure for the two side boxes...

 

But how to better secure it to prevent it from being broken into?? Put big padlocks on the boxes???

 

What my other friend (friend B) said is quite true also lah no matter how secure we make our boxes to be, if the F*#@er really want to break open the boxes, he sure has his way to break and steal... Right??

 

Or we can install an alarm on FJR?? How much will it cost to install alarm??

[deanz4]

Originally posted by omnislash@Dec 11 2006, 07:35 PM

my rear wheel bearing just failed ytd... 78,000km. Not a very good news. worst thing is no one has stock for a particular bearing. Not even Hong Leong. Damn stupid. Tmr going to Kian Ho and SLS to see if thay can provide a substitute. This month damn sway... Dunno whose curse me.....

bro is the wheel bearing that u meant is the small circle with lots of bearing inside???

 

last time mine old fjr too had this problem.. (if that is the one).. if it is u can try to go to eddy ong and look for Ah Hai .. he might have it...

[nkan0]

hmmm... Ah Hai used to be riding a 2-digit plater maroon FJR rite??

 

ya, i guess all these things are part of the tear & wear issue... all bikes will also face these probs... bro seahmh, dont worry too much abt such issues....

[nkan0]

hmmm... Ah Hai used to be riding a 2-digit plater maroon FJR rite??

 

ya, i guess all these things are part of the tear & wear issue... all bikes will also face these probs... bro seahmh, dont worry too much abt such issues....

[deanz4]

previously i was riding his bike..

[deanz4]

seahmh frankly speaking it is not adviseable to put a box if yr are riding at NSHW u will fell the bike flying off due to the box.

 

and even yamaha nv recommend to put top box..

 

but if u wanna it for yr partner to lean back then i suggest u get a backrest that i might be asking seng kwang to do it for me... and get a small box too for small items like raincoat and some tools.

[mutant_sheep]

Yamaha recommendation is 1top box or 2side box ONLY.

3 2gether is not recommended.

 

about the wheel bearing issue, i agreed with nakano. all bike have this issue. but im not total agree with cybernation. coz original japan wheel bearing will last longer then aftermarket (even the OEM). my personal experience, example: original bearing can last 50,000km, aftermarket or OEM might last 20,000km only. is not the bearing no good, is the way ur machanic replace it

 

time to show off my knowledge again , a proper way to replace bearing is use hydraulic pump & jig to push in the bearing, not by knocking it into place. but the problem is how many bike shop have that hydraulic pump? i bet even HL don't have that.

[Cybernation]

Over 200km/hr the handle will start to wobble. But detatch the box wobbles goes away.

[Cybernation]

Originally posted by mutant_sheep@Dec 12 2006, 08:34 AM

Yamaha recommendation is 1top box or 2side box ONLY.

3 2gether is not recommended.

 

about the wheel bearing issue, i agreed with nakano. all bike have this issue. but im not total agree with cybernation. coz original japan wheel bearing will last longer then aftermarket (even the OEM). my personal experience, example: original bearing can last 50,000km, aftermarket or OEM might last 20,000km only. is not the bearing no good, is the way ur machanic replace it

 

time to show off my knowledge again , a proper way to replace bearing is use hydraulic pump & jig to push in the bearing, not by knocking it into place. but the problem is how many bike shop have that hydraulic pump? i bet even HL don't have that.

Hi mutant. read my post again, on the safe side i mentioned. Kia su abit then no such prob lo.

[seahmh]

Originally posted by deanz4@Dec 12 2006, 01:19 AM

seahmh frankly speaking it is not adviseable to put a box if yr are riding at NSHW u will fell the bike flying off due to the box.

 

and even yamaha nv recommend to put top box..

 

but if u wanna it for yr partner to lean back then i suggest u get a backrest that i might be asking seng kwang to do it for me... and get a small box too for small items like raincoat and some tools.

U mean we will feel the bike flying off due to the back box??

 

So U are considering putting a backrest and a small box? So the small will be installed behind your back-rest?? How much for both items plus labour charges?Cool... After I get my bike, must take a look at how does it look like on your bike and get the address from you to install mine...

 

Well, wait till I get my licence first...

 

Thanks very much, everybody, for your advices...

[seahmh]

Originally posted by mutant_sheep@Dec 12 2006, 08:34 AM

Yamaha recommendation is 1top box or 2side box ONLY.

3 2gether is not recommended.

 

about the wheel bearing issue, i agreed with nakano. all bike have this issue. but im not total agree with cybernation. coz original japan wheel bearing will last longer then aftermarket (even the OEM). my personal experience, example: original bearing can last 50,000km, aftermarket or OEM might last 20,000km only. is not the bearing no good, is the way ur machanic replace it

 

time to show off my knowledge again , a proper way to replace bearing is use hydraulic pump & jig to push in the bearing, not by knocking it into place. but the problem is how many bike shop have that hydraulic pump? i bet even HL don't have that.

So how much will the original bearing cost??

[pinetreetmh]

Originally posted by seahmh@Dec 12 2006, 11:20 AM

So how much will the original bearing cost??

too late to worry .. u sign agreement form liao.. even bearing 10k also need to change.

[nkan0]

Originally posted by pinetreetmh@Dec 12 2006, 12:27 PM

too late to worry .. u sign agreement form liao.. even bearing 10k also need to change.

LOL

 

:faint:

[omnislash]

Originally posted by Cybernation@Dec 11 2006, 09:11 PM

On the safe side if you do long distance riding often you should. Just by changing the wheel bearing is about 100 plus front and back depending on the kinda quality. I normally go for the better one.

 

The Givi box I have is Maxia. With the cushion it costed me about 300plus if I did not rem wrongly. If you are going for a smaller box the price is slightly cheaper lo.

Got good quality one meh? What brand? I just use back OEM.

 

Our rear wheel bearing uses NTN. Total of 4.

3 of which are normal ball bearing.

1 of it is the needle roller bearing. that one AM and HL all no stock. I went SLS to buy but no exact dimension. ID and OD the same but length is shorter by 1mm, 25 instead of 26. Guess how much? $4.50. You know whats dirt? Cuz i thinks its dirt cheap...

 

Anyway, I bot the other 3 seperately from AM and HL. Installed liao, now running OK. But some collar were damaged during the removal. i ordered them from AM. Other than that, I oso went back SLS to buy the other 3 bearings. Again, its dirt.. Compared to AM, not to mention HL. Its not fake, its the very one thats used cuz I brot the old ones to compare.

 

I dun think they can be serviced. These are prelube sealed type. I suspect I accelerated the failure during one of the mersing trips... Rmb Denrick? Otherwise, they should last.

 

Anyway, should any one of you need assistance (touch wood) regarding bearing failure, can always ask me. Maybe I can help you in some ways.

[omnislash]

Originally posted by seahmh@Dec 11 2006, 08:40 PM

So it is a must to service the ball bearings every 20km?? How much is the ball bearing servicing?

 

By the way, can I ask how much to install a rear box(with a rear back seat cushion for the pillion rider) on the FJR? Since we have two side boxes, so I was thinking of installing just a small box(with back seat cushion) behind.

 

Thanks for any advice(s) given.

Givi Rack + Mounting plate cost about $230. If you buy seperate more ex. Box itself, bigger more ex. But careful though. If you want to have backrest, only certain boxes can mount the backrest. Usually the big ones. I use Givi Micro 2, no backrest option. Unless you talking about custom made ones, which I oso dunno where got make.

 

As for servicing bearing, dun worry. The bearings ARE cheap. I think the labour charge more ex than the bearing itself. Which means the labour charge for servicing the bearing as compared to replacing them might end up be as expensive.

 

I went to Meng Tong for help for my bearing prob. Frankly speaking, I'm not all that impress. I mean he's responsible and commited, that I have no complains. But sometimes, he oso use eh... brute force. He was trying to knock out the bearing for sometime but it didnt budge. I looked at the MM and it says the dust cover, drive hub must be removed first. So I brot it to his attention. He tried a little bit more before giving up and follwed the MM. Den finally it came out. To be fair, I think every other Mechanic would have done the same unless you have done it before. So, I still think he's a good mechanic. I took part in the removla and stuff and I ran ard sourcing for the parts so maybe labour he charge me reasonably.

[deanz4]

bro omnilash sorry to ask this but wat is SLSand where?/ dont know lah

[nkan0]

Bro Omnislash, tks for sharing all these info with the rest of us!!

 

thats what the Forums are for, to share....

 

So anyone still keen on the proposed Mersing Ride by Teamlm on the 27th Dec???

:lovestruck:

[new_surfer]

Originally posted by n@kan0@Dec 9 2006, 02:17 PM

FJRians, so hw's the meetup last nite???

 

Bro Cybernation aka Muscleman, havent seen u ard for a while?? how's life?

 

hmmm... FJR as a daily-ride??? Possibly, have been done, but not by me...

 

Com'on guys, WHEN can we see more than 10 FJRs riding together, either in SG or MY???

 

Sure it'll be a lovely sight!! :lovestruck:

hi bro, i have a group of frens riding FJR, a total of 9 bikes.If u want we can meet 1 day for coffee. but it must be a nite as most of us is 8-6pm workers.it can be arrange if ur interested...mostly we will meet at bishan on fridays abt 9.30pm upwards.most bikers will be hayas & FJRs.should u want to arrange, give me a PM...will pass my hp number then....i am now also a 2weeks old FJR 06 rider.FBB with 3 digit.Silver/Gun Metal Gray Color.

 

Ilike to read this thread now but i seldom post as i not very knowledgeable abt this bike yet.

[new_surfer]

Originally posted by deanz4@Dec 12 2006, 01:19 AM

seahmh frankly speaking it is not adviseable to put a box if yr are riding at NSHW u will fell the bike flying off due to the box.

 

and even yamaha nv recommend to put top box..

 

but if u wanna it for yr partner to lean back then i suggest u get a backrest that i might be asking seng kwang to do it for me... and get a small box too for small items like raincoat and some tools.

Have u get a quote from shop abt the backrest? i am also interested.Pm me if u need my hp number to discuss further & placing order.

[new_surfer]

Originally posted by n@kan0@Dec 13 2006, 12:52 AM

Bro Omnislash, tks for sharing all these info with the rest of us!!

 

thats what the Forums are for, to share....

 

So anyone still keen on the proposed Mersing Ride by Teamlm on the 27th Dec???

:lovestruck:

bro Teamlm is what group? sorry i am new to this.

My group of FJR riders also planning going to Mersing too...but can remember the dates.will update here...mayb can arrange for going together is dates match.