P***** Motor

[kata_killer]

Originally posted by Nok97@Jun 8 2005, 12:47 AM

forget abt tryin or killin braincell to min the temp..

12R is born HOT..... even a muzzy alum fan or good coolant don reli helps..

There is another way, take out ure termo-set, let d water flow all d way when u start d bike. Then it will cool faster. But U must always check ure radiator water once every 2-3 days.

[WildCard]

Originally posted by kata_killer@Jun 9 2005, 08:38 AM

There is another way, take out ure termo-set, let d water flow all d way when u start d bike. Then it will cool faster. But U must always check ure radiator water once every 2-3 days.

You might want to check first if the EFI loads different maps at different temps.

 

Case Study :

my TL1000R.

With normal glycol-based coolant (and Engine Ice), it runs at normal 85-87 deg C and heats up very quickly at long traffic stops.

Someone suggested before to take out the thermostat to allow continuous flow of coolant. Of course, this brings down the temp to a constant 65 deg C.

But a quick read of the service manual indicated tat a richer map is loaded into the ECU at temps below 80 deg C to facilitate cold morning starts. Once it reaches 80 deg C it then loads the normal running map.

So can imagine running a richer map all day long.

 

I think I'll stick with WaterWetter, manual radiator fan switch and planning my trip in advance. Runs at a better 83 deg C.

[Nok97]

Originally posted by kata_killer@Jun 9 2005, 08:38 AM

There is another way, take out ure termo-set, let d water flow all d way when u start d bike. Then it will cool faster. But U must always check ure radiator water once every 2-3 days.

it might helps ABIT...

 

But hitting a 3-4 traffic lite.. there comes the fan...

anyway is the problem tat KHI seem don care muchie...

[ANR Impex]

Originally posted by WildCard@Jun 9 2005, 09:56 AM

You might want to check first if the EFI loads different maps at different temps.

 

Case Study :

my TL1000R.

With normal glycol-based coolant (and Engine Ice), it runs at normal 85-87 deg C and heats up very quickly at long traffic stops.

Someone suggested before to take out the thermostat to allow continuous flow of coolant. Of course, this brings down the temp to a constant 65 deg C.

But a quick read of the service manual indicated tat a richer map is loaded into the ECU at temps below 80 deg C to facilitate cold morning starts. Once it reaches 80 deg C it then loads the normal running map.

So can imagine running a richer map all day long.

 

I think I'll stick with WaterWetter, manual radiator fan switch and planning my trip in advance. Runs at a better 83 deg C.

WildCard, nice to know someone else actually reads the manual in detail rather than do surjery on their bikes based on incomplete understanding of their machines I have heard some well respected members of the local track scene recommends doing this, but please bear in mind that their bikes are often track only, dry weather machines made to perform at high loads for most of their operation time.

 

Just like race tires need hard running to reach a certain temp to warrant their use, the same with such a mod. Street riding just do not push the kind of temps. Come rain, the evaporative cooling effect of water on the radiator is tremendous, your temps will plunge uncontrollably with the thermostat removed!

 

Glycol free coolant like WW and Maxima Cool-Aide is the best bet. Planet now stocks Maxima Cool-Aide, ask Ah Chong for it.

[kata_killer]

Originally posted by ANR Impex@Jun 10 2005, 02:04 PM

Planet now stocks Maxima Cool-Aide, ask Ah Chong for it.

I'm using it for my Haya n my bandit. i can say, n it's not ex at all. If not wrong, $10 for tat.

 

At last, I see 3 sets of grounding wire n Planet liao. Just fix 1 on my haya, nw left only 2. Ah Chong told me tat this wires run out very fast one, n D supplier got it from Euorpe.

 

It's totally different from wat moto world is selling. Motorworld grounding wires is use for Cars if look carefully at d packet b4 d staffs there d staffs there install it for U. These wires which Ah-chong is using is only for motobikes.. See for ureself when U r there.

 

Ah-beng just install it for me, wat I can say, . Straight away, i feel d different after installing unlike those motorworld ones.

[WildCard]

Originally posted by ANR Impex@Jun 10 2005, 02:04 PM

WildCard, nice to know someone else actually reads the manual in detail rather than do surjery on their bikes based on incomplete understanding of their machines I have heard some well respected members of the local track scene recommends doing this, but please bear in mind that their bikes are often track only, dry weather machines made to perform at high loads for most of their operation time.

 

Just like race tires need hard running to reach a certain temp to warrant their use, the same with such a mod. Street riding just do not push the kind of temps. Come rain, the evaporative cooling effect of water on the radiator is tremendous, your temps will plunge uncontrollably with the thermostat removed!

 

Glycol free coolant like WW and Maxima Cool-Aide is the best bet. Planet now stocks Maxima Cool-Aide, ask Ah Chong for it.

Thankies.

Its a result of being unable to pay for regular servicing.

So I learnt to do a lot of DIYs myself to save costs.

 

One question, how long does the Cool-Aide last before a top-up or change is required? Wanna give it a try.

[shoei]

Originally posted by WildCard@Jun 9 2005, 09:56 AM

You might want to check first if the EFI loads different maps at different temps.

 

Case Study :

my TL1000R.

With normal glycol-based coolant (and Engine Ice), it runs at normal 85-87 deg C and heats up very quickly at long traffic stops.

Someone suggested before to take out the thermostat to allow continuous flow of coolant. Of course, this brings down the temp to a constant 65 deg C.

But a quick read of the service manual indicated tat a richer map is loaded into the ECU at temps below 80 deg C to facilitate cold morning starts. Once it reaches 80 deg C it then loads the normal running map.

So can imagine running a richer map all day long.

 

I think I'll stick with WaterWetter, manual radiator fan switch and planning my trip in advance. Runs at a better 83 deg C.

 

one of the most knowledgeable person who knows tlr

[ANR Impex]

Originally posted by WildCard@Jun 13 2005, 12:23 AM

Thankies.

Its a result of being unable to pay for regular servicing.

So I learnt to do a lot of DIYs myself to save costs.

 

One question, how long does the Cool-Aide last before a top-up or change is required? Wanna give it a try.

Same here Wildcard, the spirit of DIY lives! It is also nice knowing that our bikes are not molested by uncaring hands.

 

As for Cool-Aide, the manufacturer recommends a yearly change at the specified concentration mix of 1 FL Oz per quart (30ml per litre). A higher concentration of Cool-Aide will provide even longer protection, but a yearly flush is a good way of keeping tabs on how things are and is good practice.

 

You may find the need to top up distilled water in the overflow tank once in a while. There tend to be more evaporative losses with non-glycol coolant.

[afiqmufc86]

Thinkin of sending mi Rs125 for oil change.... can someone quote mi a rough price...??? Mi new owner.... need mech to check the bike also.... Any idea?

[299]

Originally posted by kata_killer@Jun 12 2005, 02:43 AM

I'm using it for my Haya n my bandit. i can say, n it's not ex at all. If not wrong, $10 for tat.

 

At last, I see 3 sets of grounding wire n Planet liao. Just fix 1 on my haya, nw left only 2. Ah Chong told me tat this wires run out very fast one, n D supplier got it from Euorpe.

 

It's totally different from wat moto world is selling. Motorworld grounding wires is use for Cars if look carefully at d packet b4 d staffs there d staffs there install it for U. These wires which Ah-chong is using is only for motobikes.. See for ureself when U r there.

 

Ah-beng just install it for me, wat I can say, . Straight away, i feel d different after installing unlike those motorworld ones.

Got help me check up on the pricing and stock available of tires,Mr kata?

[kata_killer]

Originally posted by ProjectD@Jun 16 2005, 01:19 AM

Got help me check up on the pricing and stock available of tires,Mr kata?

He say got stock. But my price he give me is a little bit lower than urs. U call him lah... I think tat price is okay but a little bit more than wat HKL is giving.

[nivleK1985]

Been there that day. Forgot which friday was it. I think is last last friday =X

Anyway the uncle, dunno his name, very funny hehe.

I like his helmet

 

Worksmanship good or not I dunno. I'm not a very techinical person. But seems like my bike's brake pad got stuck or something. I see 2 mech helping me fix.

Hehe Like the CS there.

But the waiting time kind of long. =X

 

Pro and Cons, but think I'll be going back there again hehe

[299]

Originally posted by kata_killer@Jun 20 2005, 11:02 AM

He say got stock. But my price he give me is a little bit lower than urs. U call him lah... I think tat price is okay but a little bit more than wat HKL is giving.

Thanks,kata.may i knoe how much lower?

[kambing]

ah chong must hire phone operator..

every 5min shop phone will ring.. haha

[MysticMoon]

ahaha the phone bell is damn old sch n loud. same as my primary sch one aHAHAHa

[kata_killer]

Originally posted by ProjectD@Jun 20 2005, 11:45 PM

Thanks,kata.may i knoe how much lower?

The most is $20 - $30 different. But HKL workmanship sucks,make things spolite then when i nvm see, he quickly put d things back.

[ah_tee]

Originally posted by kata_killer@Jun 12 2005, 02:43 AM

 

Ah-beng just install it for me, wat I can say, . Straight away, i feel d different after installing unlike those motorworld ones.

care to elaborate on the difference in effects?

 

how much is it going for

[Bassist_77 S4]

Hi guys, i am new here. i have been with planet since i got my first 2b bike until now. i think its been 10 years. hes the man. so, anybody riding SRAD 750 bumble bee? i got 1 set of fairing & 1 seat cowling for $350. Selling it urgently. Thanks. Please e-mail to me at [email protected] or [email protected]

[kata_killer]

Originally posted by ah_tee@Jun 22 2005, 07:10 PM

care to elaborate on the difference in effects?

 

how much is it going for

Motor world ones R mainly for cars if U see d packaging carefully... It's too thick for bike. Bikes should used lower voltage n more slim grounding wire.

 

A... If U got d $$, U go n try out at Motorworld ones then U go planet n try. Sure got a lot of big different one. I have try both of them, So I know it.

 

I can say d pulling force is stronger.... tat is wat i can conclude.

[ah_tee]

Originally posted by kata_killer@Jun 29 2005, 03:27 PM

Motor world ones R mainly for cars if U see d packaging carefully... It's too thick for bike. Bikes should used lower voltage n more slim grounding wire.

 

A... If U got d $$, U go n try out at Motorworld ones then U go planet n try. Sure got a lot of big different one. I have try both of them, So I know it.

 

I can say d pulling force is stronger.... tat is wat i can conclude.

i wen down last sat

 

but the maxima coolant is the agent put there for sample one leh, ah chong havent decide whether to take or not

 

i sian 1/2 also to install the groud cable, think i change tyre first

 

u also reg there is it, duno got see u b4 or not

[Sev]

anyone know planet got sus brake line?

gong there to change my steering soon, wanna do up my brake line too, if planet dont have, then i go Vector One.

thanks..

[299]

Went to change new tires, got to c 2 01 and 1 03 R1 do servicing there....

Good for the boss also.....

[Cow]

guys as wat i read, ah huat is a new mech there at planet is it? how do u guys find him. i find him very sincere and nice guy. nv show any stuck out face and take good care of your bike.

 

i had this problem with my front bulbs. went there for them to check out.. he told me have to change the big lamp but not really necessary to spend extra $$ cause i can use one side light bulb instead. so i didnt change anything nor paid anything. i was about to push my bike out when he bent down and checked my chain, tighten it for me and lub it. he also went to check my tyres pressure and pump air for me.

 

after he push my bike out of the workshop, i forgot my helmet. he personnally took my helmet from the shop and walk to me.

 

 

though wat he did was not much, but i am touched by their service he gave me compared with other shops. :thumb: for him..

 

all i can say though planet's price abit higher, but their service and skills power!! u got to pay more for better returns.

[Cow]

Originally posted by kata_killer@Jun 22 2005, 06:52 PM

The most is $20 - $30 different. But HKL workmanship sucks,make things spolite then when i nvm see, he quickly put d things back.

i agree with this. that time i went to hkl to change a new set of tyres. the mech there lost one of my tyres bolt. then when i ask him how come only got 3 now instead of 4, he tell me say when he take out that time already don have. i was like WTH

[Sev]

going to do my HEL brake line tomorrow evening...

vector one no stock, go planet do instead, $15 more ex than vector one's promotion price $195... planet is $210... so still ok...