Narrow Motorcycle Lots

[speedtriple]

Hi,

Would like riders around the island to feedback on where the ridiculously narrow motorcycle lots are and those with impossibly-to-get-out driveways. I have encountered quite a few. Some are narrow and the lots look ok when there are no bikes parked. But if you park in one of the inside lots and other bikes start to park, it's impossible to get out if you are on a big bike! unless you move other's bike but if got handlebar lock or another big bike, then tao tia liao!

 

If got narrow lots from gahment controlled ones best. E.g. HDB or URA. Got pictures best!

[R3sistor]

Its ALMOST EVERYWHERE in singapore.

I just don't unstander either. The situation in open space carparks still quite acceptable.

Mutlti-storey carparks.. some of it are quite alright as well expect that there must be one or 2 lots jus painted RIGHT beside a car lot.

If the driver not skillful enough, might hit yr bike when you'r parking man!

The worst place i feel is those multi storey carparks in shopping centers. The designers of those carparks practically has no brains OR they just feel bikers are small, thus just squeeze US!

A SUPER GOOD example, the carpark at BUGIS. Just look at some of the bike lots man. For god sake, its at one corner of the carpark with a few pathetic lots. and if you happen to ride a big bike (400 cc and above bikes).. its sometimes makes it so hard to move in to the lot or move out of the lot.

With many people going for bigger bikes nowadays, i do hope that they will design bigger lots for motorcycle next time. It seems that the lots they "paint" are catered for smaller bikes. Even if it is so, those small bikes already have some trouble parking! Just imagine a phatom parking next to yr lot on a squeezy carpark.

[Pauche]

singapore expo not enough lots!!!!

[josean]

potong pasir

bukit panjang plaza

centrepoint

[tarzan666]

Spore expo not onli not enuf lots...the lots so small...tink more 4 bicycles...

lucky pavement oso can park....

[speedtriple]

Narrow lots are also a reason for me to think twice about getting panniers for my bike. I hope to get feedback for garmet lots so that maybe i can highlight to them. Especially HDB lots. Currently i dunno if there is a standard size for motorcycle lots but if any of u is aware maybe can share. If your HDB carpark lots is ridiculously narrow, maybe can share a pic?

 

So far i encounter the bugis junction, bukit merah(below hawker centre), chinatown(need to check if it is HDB), suntec(lots are far. bo bian becos we not paying. but the entrance is a narrow space beside a car lot! if the driver anyhow park, all the bikers siao liao!). Some lots are painted in a stoopid manner such that getting out if the lots are fully parked is damn difficult!)

 

Now is the time to do something abt it!

[speedtriple]

Originally posted by R3sistor@Feb 23 2005, 02:03 AM

Its ALMOST EVERYWHERE in singapore.

I just don't unstander either. The situation in open space carparks still quite acceptable.

Mutlti-storey carparks.. some of it are quite alright as well expect that there must be one or 2 lots jus painted RIGHT beside a car lot.

If the driver not skillful enough, might hit yr bike when you'r parking man!

The worst place i feel is those multi storey carparks in shopping centers. The designers of those carparks practically has no brains OR they just feel bikers are small, thus just squeeze US!

A SUPER GOOD example, the carpark at BUGIS. Just look at some of the bike lots man. For god sake, its at one corner of the carpark with a few pathetic lots. and if you happen to ride a big bike (400 cc and above bikes).. its sometimes makes it so hard to move in to the lot or move out of the lot.

With many people going for bigger bikes nowadays, i do hope that they will design bigger lots for motorcycle next time. It seems that the lots they "paint" are catered for smaller bikes. Even if it is so, those small bikes already have some trouble parking! Just imagine a phatom parking next to yr lot on a squeezy carpark.

somemore some bikers park their bikes in the middle of the lot WITH THE SIDESTAND. The handlebars end up in the next lot. The biker in the other lot will have problem moving off!

 

horizoner, thanks for the input. will check it out.

[ktkt]

Below is depiction of my place's motorbike lots.

 

|---Car lot in front too.

v

[hot ] [hot ] [hot ] [mine] [ Car ]

[

[

[

^

|-- Motorbike lots.

 

The lots are pretty narrow and you can see, the easier and more

popular lots are the ones that is along the road. (the hot ones)

 

Best case scenario

----------------------

 

Cos normally we would know where to park, and know each other,

so normally I will get my usual spot unless it's occupied by another

bike that is not from the area. (Then I will curse and swear)

 

Worse case scenario

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All the hot spots are taken up.

Can't squeeze in at all to access the rest of the lots.

 

I normally will always park at one usual spot that is the one

highlighted as mine.

 

Worst case scenario

-----------------------

Parked inside the non-hot spots, want to go out and find out that

all the hot spots are taken up and cannot go out!!!

 

 

 

So I decided to take actions into my own hand.....

 

|---Car lot in front too.

v

[hot ] [hot ] [hot ] [^^^] [ Car ]

[

[

[

^

|-- Motorbike lots.

 

Parked my bikes in the above orientation and didn't really have

to care abt how the rest park. Cos I "Chopped" the lots there alraedy.

 

Until one day I kenna summoned by PREMAS for "Parking outside the

parking lot" even though I've got season parkin. Went to HDB tp appeal

and blah blah blah stupid red tape, less lots means less income (I can count

how many bikes that park at that lot, so where's the loss?) Cannot park there,

can park at other lots at the opposite block etc etc....

 

(I didn't ask him can I call him if i'm parked inside and blocked by all the

hot spot parked bikes or not....)

 

Waived off summons, re-orientate the bikes...

So far okay no problem... but if encounter the worst case scenario,

I make sure complain till jiatlet jiatlet....

[katana777]

people who design the parking lots in every area still think bikes are small like in the 80s of RXK TZR etc.....

[StingRhea]

centerpoint the best!

 

u raise up ur head and u hit the ventilation shaft~ i see many ppl kena~

[sibingai]

Originally posted by katana777@Feb 24 2005, 03:00 AM

people who design the parking lots in every area still think bikes are small like in the 80s of RXK TZR etc.....

:bounce:

 

i agree agree.they think only cars change in design.bikes.no change design..all still 125cc.........no 1000cc..........

[speedtriple]

Originally posted by ktkt@Feb 23 2005, 08:06 PM

Below is depiction of my place's motorbike lots.

 

|---Car lot in front too.

v

[hot ] [hot ] [hot ] [mine] [ Car ]

[

[

[

^

|-- Motorbike lots.

kt,

i dun understand your diagram leh. what's the orientation? lots are vertical or horizontal?

[josean]

what do u intend to do with the feedback ?

[speedtriple]

Originally posted by josean@Feb 25 2005, 12:25 AM

what do u intend to do with the feedback ?

Feedback to carparks section in HDB loh. But first of all i gotta collate examples of bike lots that have ridiculous design. But most i encountered belong to shopping centres. Hopefully, there could be a revised standard of measurement for bigger bike lots and better overall layout design.

[madman]

I agree SG EXPO ones are small, so small I cant park mine between 2 bikes cos of my wide handlebars. Bikes that park on mainstand can still manage, but sidestand confirm cannot, I always got to search for a lot at the side...if not, no choice got to park illegally.

 

Same sh*t happens at my place, though larger than EXPO, I still cant park between 2 bikes peacefully, cos the handlebars will venture to either lots at the side, so, the lot on the side always "chop" by me and no ones park there except me...

[speedtriple]

Can anyone help to measure the width of:

1) a cl2 bike with panniers

2) a cl2 bike

3) a bike with wide handlebars

4) a kup kia, vespa, rxz or smaller size bike

 

[Keynes]

From specs.

 

Aprilla

Altanic 500 = 720mm; Scarbeo 500 = 785mm

 

Suzuki burgman 650 = 810mm

 

Piaggio X9 = 880 mm

 

HOnda

Silverwing 600 = 770 mm; ST11 and ST13 = 935 mm; NT650 (Deauvilla) = 780 mm

 

Yamaha XP T-max = 775 mm

 

That's all I have.

 

Shd conside length too, since most bikes comes with big rear box.

[Speedpass]

anyway sometime oso depends on the rider .

 

i always park at the outermost lot n align my bike a bit to the edge of the lot so tat the bikes which park on my left side can get out easily ,

 

But it seems to me tat there still r cuckoo riders who can hit my mirror given so much space .

 

Have to contend to adjusting my left mirror every morning when i go to work .

[ktkt]

Today go back and all the hot spots taken up except for one.

FWAH. Dun care, park that vacant spot....

 

Phantom with rear box take up alot of space lengthwise.....

[skydude]

Shld stop import on the BIG CARs those suv really take ups alot of space! got 1 time 1 driver had to park its car in a angle and it cross into the bike parking lot, argh... then 1 bike lot is wasted~!~... hai~~~

[Metalfyre]

Originally posted by speedtriple@Feb 24 2005, 04:34 PM

kt,

i dun understand your diagram leh. what's the orientation? lots are vertical or horizontal?

haha took me some time to figure it out too...

 

sometimes i find the lots too short!!! when I'm riding my phantom I find that either my box or my front wheel sticks out...

[R3sistor]

IMO, the designers of the carpark should measure a bigger bike like crusiers as a benchmark when they design the lots.

[Madhorse78]

maybe we can sart a list of small carpark lots.If no action is taken, then we try to avoid it.

 

1.Centrepoint

2.Plaza Singapura

3.

[Speedpass]

maybe we can sart a list of small carpark lots.If no action is taken, then we try to avoid it.

 

1.Centrepoint

2.Plaza Singapura

3.Toa Payoh Central

4.Woodlands st13

5.Causeway Pt

[josean]

why dun just park 2 lots if u have to ?