DIY Respray

[kirkjay]

you can see i sanded down to core. thru the primer you can see i none of the old paint was left, if not the the old colours and design will pop thru. the last is a preliminary sketch of a design i have in mind. still in a fiz what base colour to use.

[kirkjay]

two other helmets im working on. one is an old school full face for my self. and the other is a nova helmet for fiancee try to draw a scouts logo.

the reason i do primer on the black is so the other colour can see thru. i predict i will run into alot of trouble doing the design though. stay tuned for project not completed. will upload when done.

[Gnixer]

possible to conduct a DIY session ?

[njh]

I must agree with the saying u pay for what u get. $5/can paint vs $50/can paint.

 

Nice projects u have there.

Do u have a sanding machine to help with the sanding? Otherwise i salute u for sanding all the way until even the base primer is not there.

I would like to experiment with airbrush if i have the chance next time also.

 

Some questions to ask u, where did u buy the automotive paints, industrial airguns & compressors from and how much do they cost?

I have only have a mini compressor and hobby airbrush which i think would be fine only for detailing works and not big areas of the bike.

 

Hope we can see more people posting their DIY spray painting works here.

[cool_bikers]

bro, do u hav anyway to prevent the paint to be eaten by petrol after spraying it???..

i DIYed the black stripe u see on my signature, but the sad thing is, it cant stand touching petrol. even one drop would cause it to dissolve and become rough.

FYI, i hav Sprayed it wif 2 layers of metallic black followed by 2 layers of laquer. it was very smooth but after wat happen, the area ard the tank cap no more shine like it used to.

Do u know of any laquer tat is resistant to petrol???...hope someone can enlighten me on this coz planing to strip the whole tank and repaint it.

thanks in advance....

 

No offence..But never knew there is any lacquer that's resistant to petrol..

 

kenNUFC & cool_bikers: good idea, but the part of sanding the bike is not very fun. so i would agree with cool_bikers that the price would depend on the model

but of cos this is only a cheap alternative for people on budget as it is not guaranteed that it will last.

compfused: yup, i'm staying in tampines. what bike were u riding?

Dinzmetal: sorry, can't help u with the question as i've got no idea now as to how to prevent the problem also.

i think the only way to prevent the paint from damage by petrol is to be really careful when u pump, making sure that there is nothing dripping from the nozzle already then remove from the tank.

 

Tats what i tot but my original red paint for my tank is resistant to petrol and thinner to a certain extend.

Does tat means there are diff degrees of paint quality coz the $4.50 spray paint cant even resist petrol worst still thinner????

Ive been very careful since the first time petrol touched and damage my paint job. but occasional it does and there goes the shine on one more spot hope someone will be able to recommend a product to solve my problem...

 

Well, actually there r different grade of lacquer available. Obviously da cost will differ too. Usually to make da paint job more lasting & glossy, we nid to baked it, dats y u will find lots of spray painting shop recommend 2k paint and oven bake for their paint job.........

[cool_bikers]

all prices are estimate

$5.00 500cc spray lacquer

$50.00 clear 2k (the shine you see on bike)

 

there is quite a difference i assure you. petrol wont eat much into the clear but definetely will eat in to lacquer. 1st hand experience. to much time on my hand on researching and experimenting.

 

NJH - i did my bike gold when i first got it. used normal spray paint. it was a beauty to my eyes i tell you. colour looks nicer than paint shop. Just like your matt black. Tell you the thruth, quality of your job is tip top. but the dowside of using spary paint is after some time it will crack. between 1 to 6 months. after that send to shop to spray liao. im still not sure the base coat crack or the lacquer. but just giving you heads up.

 

hope this TS doesnt mind i post my project here. attached are my 1st two attemps at airbrushing.

 

U've done a gd job bro, after seeing ur paint work i mus say u r very detailed, patience and oso skilled enuf to do dat..........

[kirkjay]

Nice projects u have there.

Do u have a sanding machine to help with the sanding? Otherwise i salute u for sanding all the way until even the base primer is not there.

I would like to experiment with airbrush if i have the chance next time also.

 

Some questions to ask u, where did u buy the automotive paints, industrial airguns & compressors from and how much do they cost?

I have only have a mini compressor and hobby airbrush which i think would be fine only for detailing works and not big areas of the bike.

 

 

no sander...just plain sweat though i finished sanding down the old design in a matter of 2hours only. this is where i know i can do it. I realise it possible. then to really take the next step.

 

you can try chin wah paint at balestiar road. http://www.kangaroopaints.com.sg

 

you must get HVLP gun. got alot of places. if you really interested then PM.

 

your mini compressor must upgrade liao. your right impossible to do the whole bike. but you can always do helmet.

aiya if you really interested, and ready to spend $600...i will show you the journey.

 

 

 

 

 

possible to conduct a DIY session ?

 

actually yes. was thinking of it. do you want to organise?

i dont mind showing paint preparation.

maybe part of the panel of your bike to be sprayed...

say tank or cowling...

dont mind doing a small design for a small fee..

come out with an idea...

knowledge is free..

 

U've done a gd job bro, after seeing ur paint work i mus say u r very detailed, patience and oso skilled enuf to do dat..........

 

arghhh...i've been trying and trying for 3months liao...at the moment i only an expert in paint preparatio...its the starting point of all painter...without preparation your foward progress will stink...

 

after that im still a beginner.

 

still i see so much better guys out there. seen a few hobbyist who really stand out. especially the resident artist for Team Eagles. Then the expert painter at http://www.sgairbrush.com...Damn good...

[compfused]

no sander...just plain sweat though i finished sanding down the old design in a matter of 2hours only.

Think of it as a form of exercise..

 

arghhh...i've been trying and trying for 3months liao...at the moment i only an expert in paint preparatio...its the starting point of all painter...without preparation your foward progress will stink...

 

after that im still a beginner.

 

still i see so much better guys out there. seen a few hobbyist who really stand out. especially the resident artist for Team Eagles. Then the expert painter at http://www.sgairbrush.com...Damn good...

Practice makes perfect..Everyone started from scratch..Its perseverance that you need to succeed..

[njh]

great websites u provided krikjay

 

ps: u've got pm

[khaitronic]

okay guys can check with u all what grading of sandpaper u all use for repaint...n how to know that u sand enuff already...me ex rxz i spray it a lot...but i actually spray it really unprofessionaly...cause i did not learn or see people spray...just hear from wat my fren says and then just try it out myself hehe...as in i just sand until i sick of sanding then start to spray...though im very happy with my finish article...im very sad that it did not last...it start cracking as months pass by...can help me improve my spraying...cause thinking of spraying my current bike fairring...thanks...

[njh]

sand paper for me, i would start with 120/160 then to 320 lastly to 800/1000.

 

sanding is probably one of the most important part of the respray. if it's not sanded properly until smooth, your end result would probably be a uneven paint job.

it's best if one could sand until even the base colour is not there as in kirkjay's examples.

 

i think for the paint cracking part, is most probably due to either the primer or the base colour layer not dry enough then u went on to spray the lacquer layer.

 

give the bike a wash before spraying to ensure it's clear from dirt and the dust particles from the sanding before going to the next step of spraying

 

lots of prep needed before actual spray painting, so don't be lazy if you want to diy

[kirkjay]

Agree with NJH...

dont do a rush job...

like me...

always set aside a whole day, better without distractions....handphone, internet, work, TV...

i always rush at the end...coz time is up...hehe...

[compfused]

And lots of patience..

[MaverickRD]

 

actually yes. was thinking of it. do you want to organise?

i dont mind showing paint preparation.

maybe part of the panel of your bike to be sprayed...

say tank or cowling...

dont mind doing a small design for a small fee..

come out with an idea...

knowledge is free..

 

 

If there's such an gathering i dont mind volunteering my bike cowling....

Don't mind the small fee either....

Just pm me if the event is a green light....

:thumb:

[khaitronic]

sand paper for me, i would start with 120/160 then to 320 lastly to 800/1000.

 

sanding is probably one of the most important part of the respray. if it's not sanded properly until smooth, your end result would probably be a uneven paint job.

it's best if one could sand until even the base colour is not there as in kirkjay's examples.

 

i think for the paint cracking part, is most probably due to either the primer or the base colour layer not dry enough then u went on to spray the lacquer layer.

 

give the bike a wash before spraying to ensure it's clear from dirt and the dust particles from the sanding before going to the next step of spraying

 

lots of prep needed before actual spray painting, so don't be lazy if you want to diy

 

Great advise....the thing bout me is i donno until when to sand...and i also just use any grade of sandpaper...

 

err bout the grade aight...how to check ek?i went to diy shop,they just show me the sandpaper,ask me to look myself cause the sales gerl also not sure...haiz...so i end up dont buy ah....

 

Actually this is the first time i heard primer... what issit actually ek?

after u sand then used the primer issit?after that then u can start spraying ek?Thanks...

[compfused]

Great advise....the thing bout me is i donno until when to sand...and i also just use any grade of sandpaper...

 

err bout the grade aight...how to check ek?i went to diy shop,they just show me the sandpaper,ask me to look myself cause the sales gerl also not sure...haiz...so i end up dont buy ah....

 

Actually this is the first time i heard primer... what issit actually ek?

after u sand then used the primer issit?after that then u can start spraying ek?Thanks...

If I'm not mistaken..THe grade of the sandpaper is written on the back of the sandpaper..Higher the number the finer it is..What I normally do is after sandin it with a rough grade (smaller number) then I sand it with a higher number (grade) sandpaper with water..Until satisfactory..I'm easy so I don't sand till its excellent..A simple OK for me is fine..

 

The primer is like a base coat..What I heard was that it helps to make sure the paint stick to whatever you wanna spray..But primer takes a very long time to dry..After the primer is dry..sand it to make it smooth..Wipe it clean and you're ready for sprayin..

[khaitronic]

Okay power...thanks man...one more sticker wise how ek? mine sticker seem hard to peel off...any easy ways or the right ways to peel off...or i just need to be patience...hah...me now trying to peel off the graphic sticker...

[compfused]

Okay power...thanks man...one more sticker wise how ek? mine sticker seem hard to peel off...any easy ways or the right ways to peel off...or i just need to be patience...hah...me now trying to peel off the graphic sticker...

Patience..Peel it off bit by bit..Don't use so much force and "drag"..Bit by bit..

[njh]

compfused i right, the grade of the sand paper is written on the back of it.

 

for me the primer has 2 uses:

1) to show any unevenness or hole which require patching

2) better surface for the base color to 'stick' on

 

i think zippo (lighter fluid) will do the job of removing the stickers.

but do u have intention to keep the stickers? if not i think just sand it together with while sanding the fairing will do.

[khaitronic]

ic can just sand ek...haha...me go peel it off like hell sia...use my jack knife somemore...cause hard to peel sia...kk power guys...thanks for the tips...anything i just in this thread again!...

[kirkjay]

this is a great thread for beginners...including me... hope this carry on....

check out my paint work which was cleared not properly....

back to sanding it down....

right AIE...

[compfused]

this is a great thread for beginners...including me... hope this carry on....

check out my paint work which was cleared not properly....

back to sanding it down....

right AIE...

Wrong person la..

 

Like I said..You will need lots of patience..

[Dinzmetal]

all prices are estimate

$5.00 500cc spray lacquer

$50.00 clear 2k (the shine you see on bike)

 

there is quite a difference i assure you. petrol wont eat much into the clear but definetely will eat in to lacquer. 1st hand experience. to much time on my hand on researching and experimenting.

 

Thanks bro for the Info. Anyway, the clear 2k ur talking abt is it a brand or the label of the paint??...couldnt find it at my local DIY store and when i did ask the uncle, he oso giv me blur face. does nione know where to purchace it???...thanks again in Advance

[kirkjay]

2k clear must use a spray gun and industrial compressor...

spray gun $100-$700

compressor $300 above

[Dinzmetal]

2k clear must use a spray gun and industrial compressor...

spray gun $100-$700

compressor $300 above

 

woah...with tat price tag for the stuff, can buy new tank

thanks bro for the info. much apreciated