SBF Classic Vespa's Cafe 2009 / 2010

[Gweester]

marciano,

what do you mean a A plate?

A plate vespa you mean? OR???

 

Maz,

i did my clutch upgrade about 5-6 yrs back....was using a 200 clutch (cant remember whether it is a PX clutch or Malossi) for additional power....can really feel the difference between my previous 150 clutch and the 200 ones....however it does go hand in hand with the gear structure too....in fact many internal stuff things go hand in hand to get the best out of the kit or aftermarket parts....

[Manzz]

Hi vespa bros, I am intending to get a vespa soon. But before I began to hunt for one, I would like your opinions on:

 

1) Price range for A plater vespas

 

2) Shops that are reputable that sells vespas

 

3) Insurance for 24 yr old

 

Thanks in advance!

[reddy]

Originally posted by emrun@Jun 30 2006, 03:49 PM

i notice it vibrates more than pinasco. and it suffers 'pull back' when riding at 90-100 during the day, so usually i rode arnd 60 all the time (everyday frm Yishun to Yio Chu Kang, so near. heh).. night time usually smoother, nvr experience 'pull back' before and top speed increases +-10. that is the weirdest thing.

for the pick up, i'm not too sure if malossi or pinasco faster..

for the petrol consumption, i notice a MAJOR increase if ride at 90-100 everyday. and one thing it require plenty of 2T, i use a minimum 200ml 2T for every 4-5 litres of petrol. AJ advise this. so i follow. heh.

 

anybody noes why there's 'pull back' ? wat's actually the problem? my fren advice me to put an extra condenser.

it could be ya jettings too cos u said u feel no pullback at night (more oxygen than the day) somehow i think u should check out ya plug to comfirm that. in the day, you may be running too lean so that explained the mystery effect.

[edge-t]

Originally posted by emrun@Jun 30 2006, 05:27 PM

it's like when i'm riding arnd 100km/h. den all of the sudden, the engine stop for a while and i can actually feel like the vespa jerking backwards, den move as per normal. and if u trottle further, the vespa will die off. so whenever i experience this, usually i slow down and 1/4 trottle to stay the engine alive. i was thinking that i might be overheating the engine..

Wow, It's got to be over heating, I had that experience a few times, 'cept my vespa just expires after I pull in the clutch. It's a mild seizure due to overheating. I think you should really redial your carb settings, maybe even open up the topend and have a look at the damage, hopefully it's minor.

 

Ride safe.

[emrun]

okay guys, i already check my fuel tap. and it's working fine. so there's nothing wrong with fuel tap. already cut down my 2T intake to 100ml per 5 litres (hopes no piston seizures). as for the carb setting, i dont noe much. what i noe was i'm using 24/24..

 

already read the malossi info, it advises main jet 115. timing, 18 degrees BTDC. but i really have plenty of questions to ask..

 

1. How to check what main jet I'm using? Is there any wording on the main jet?

2. How much does the 115 main jet cost?

3. What's the normal timing?

4. Is it possible for me to change those things by reading theoretically? or the best way is to consult a mechanic?

 

p.s i never open my carb box before.

[edge-t]

Hey Emrun, here's a picture of where the main jet is located.

 

http://www.vespamaintenance.com/fuel/carbrebuild/carbb.jpg

 

The jet stack is made up of the air corrector(top), mixer tube(mid), and the main jet(bottom). It's a three piece stack where you can mix and match richness and leanness as your scoot needs. There are numbers engraved on the tubes, jets. Look for the number on the main jet(located at the bottom of the stack.

 

Don't over tighten when you screw it back, just snug. I think it cost like 6-8 bucks? You can do anything yourself, provided you're not afriad of screwing up once or twice. Best, find some friend who knows and can watch while you do it.

[edge-t]

Oh, and I got the picture from vespamaintenance.com

 

you can find out more about vespa on his website.

[maz]

eh emrun 100 ml of 2t for 5 lit is still away bit too little.. 150ml +- 10 will be ideal. since the malossi advises 115 u may want to start at 120 or 118 to be safe.. As the pic posted by edge-t when u open the carb cover and filter u will see the carb.. open the bigger brass pin u see... u onli need to change the small end at the bottom of the pin.. there will be a tiny writing at the main jet.. from wat i know, tong aik will be selling ard 6.50 and waterloo is either 3.50 or 4.50.. check your main jet first before u buy as it will be 118 if i not wrong.. gd luck ya. ride safe

[marciano]

actually the safest for me is to use 30ml of 2t per 1litre of petrol. thats 3% cos i'm ridin px150. but if u wanna but more accurate, i think tongaik shop selling the measuring cup.

 

btw, what i meant was if i just wanna buy ONLY the plate. "A" plate. is it possible?

 

and i wanna know. is it possible if i fix a sprint nose to my px150? is it detachable or do i have to weld it up? cos i thought of changing cos i dont like the current nose of my ride...

 

what kind of 2t is best to use on a vespa anyway? any reccomendations?

 

sorry if i ask too much...

[edge-t]

Originally posted by marciano@Jul 3 2006, 02:15 AM

actually the safest for me is to use 30ml of 2t per 1litre of petrol. thats 3% cos i'm ridin px150. but if u wanna but more accurate, i think tongaik shop selling the measuring cup.

 

btw, what i meant was if i just wanna buy ONLY the plate. "A" plate. is it possible?

 

and i wanna know. is it possible if i fix a sprint nose to my px150? is it detachable or do i have to weld it up? cos i thought of changing cos i dont like the current nose of my ride...

 

what kind of 2t is best to use on a vespa anyway? any reccomendations?

 

sorry if i ask too much...

Yeah, I use about 3% mix on my PX200 also. not too much smoke, and not too little to cause seizure.

 

For the "nose", you can choose for screw on or weld-on. it's all up to you, personally, I got them to weld it on for a permanent look. It does look better. I had the experience of having it screwed on too. Didn't look too hot.

 

2T? Anything that's fully synthetic. some peeps go crazy over motul and R2... you might wanna try those.

[un-sith]

buy A plate?

perhaps get a scoot with a nice a plate,

then use it for ur new scoot when u register with lta.

is it wat u wanna do or? blur, ahah

 

can try R2, affordable and reliable.

[Sharpey]

Esso fully synth is perfectly ok.... 20 bucks a bottle...

Haven't tried R2 though...

[Gweester]

marciano,

 

Yes, you can just get the "A" plate by itself but getting a unique A plate number is going tobe quite hefty....

Moreover, the transfer fee for old plates can be another factor you should consider as if it is for a new bike then the transfer fee is not so high....BUT if it is going to a old (2nd hand) bike, it is going to cost you a few thousand dollars...

Personally i would not spend that few thousand dollars just for a number....

 

For 2T, any fully synthetic works perfectly....

previously i was on castrol....sweet!!!

 

for the scoot's nose, as mentioned, it can be done both welded and screw on....a welded nose would definitely fit nicer and have stronger hold on the frame....

Go with the welded one if you were to change the nose....

I was also fiddling with the idea of changing my nose (mine is a sprint nose) to a super or ultraman one as I prefer those smaller head...but then again....changing it to another model's nose seems to not too ideal as i refer back to the classic term of keeping as much parts as original as possible....i dropped the idea...

 

dilemma

fellow vesporean.....any comments?

[marciano]

i think i wont buy the A plate. too expensive if it comes to a few thousand bucks for a plate.

 

i'm using castrol also. but i think i wanna try to R2.

 

and about the nose, is it approved if we go to LTA? i mean if i weld it up...

 

"for the scoot's nose, as mentioned, it can be done both welded and screw on....a welded nose would definitely fit nicer and have stronger hold on the frame....

Go with the welded one if you were to change the nose....

I was also fiddling with the idea of changing my nose (mine is a sprint nose) to a super or ultraman one as I prefer those smaller head...but then again....changing it to another model's nose seems to not too ideal as i refer back to the classic term of keeping as much parts as original as possible....i dropped the idea...

 

dilemma

fellow vesporean.....any comments?"

 

for this is i think up to the individual. u may try expermenting it as for me, i'm customizing my px150. last week i just send it at sungei kadot for welding. i'm making it's frame broader by 1 1/2 inch... i hope this helps.

[Sharpey]

Hey Gweester... think you should learn to love your sprint's nose.... It's classic dude....

 

[marciano]

yeah gweester. u should love ur Sprint's nose. cos i'm actually changin mine to Sprint's nose...

[marciano]

hmm. just wanna know. what kind of polish do u guys use to make ur ride pretty? currenlty i'm using turtle oil...

[Gweester]

Sharpey & Marciano,

 

The "A" plate is not worth it cos of all the transfer cost...

the cost of having a A plate is almost equivalent to a old vespa fully done up!!

my 0.02 cents....

 

hmmm....i think i will stick to the sprint nose....

classic....to be as original as possible....

 

i think for changing of nose, it should be approve by LTA....

it's not saying that you are changing your engine....

 

you widening your front? i am also planning to widened my front (when i brought the bike, the previous owner cut the front smaller)...

BTW anyone know what the original width of sprint (front)?

 

Turtle oil? is it good? i only heard of turtle wax...

previously i was using "some clean as as you wax" thingy.....it's in black bottle....can't remember the brand though....and don't think they sell these anymore...sigh!

cos once i wash the bike then i clean off the excess dirt and at the same time wax it....

i guess by cleaning your bike regularly and applying some wax should keep the scoot pretty....

[marciano]

haha Gweester.

i changed my mind bout buying the A plate. just mod up my scoot instead of wasting my money on a plate.

 

thats what i wanna know too. what's the original width of a sprint's frame? yup. i widen up my frame to make it look more vintage. but dont widen it too much. cos it will make ur ride not stable. that's what the uncle who welds for me say...

 

yeah turtle oil. my dad bought that for me. it's good but it's liquid so easier to finish. i wanna change. soem say Harley Davidson wax is good. but not sure. got this uncle2 talk bout the wax then i just hear. lol.

[small_fly_hero]

dear vespa frenz,

 

recently i had a problem with my vespa.

 

it would stall if i let it idle too much. that is, if i stop at the traffic light, it would stall if i do not turn and maintain the throttle.

 

what is wrong and what do i do to rectifiy it?

 

really appreciate if you all can help!

 

regards,

Peter

[Gweester]

Marciano,

 

Yeah...spend the money on doing up your scoot is more worth it than having a nice A plate.... good choice!!

 

i will widen the front to the original size (cos mine is too small, previously cut)....TA also advise against widening too much as it adds on to the wind resistance and reducing stability...hence i think i will stick with widening it back to the original...to stay true classic...heehee!!

will look around to try to get the measurement for the original width....

[Gweester]

Hey Peter,

 

stall while idling?? hmmm....seems like too much air for the air/petrol mix...

what carbs are you using? 24/24?

you may wanna try sending your scoots for a good service.....redo the setting of your carbs....

[marciano]

sure gweester. but did u do ny modifications to ur sprint's engine?

[Gweester]

i did heaps to my engine previously....porting of crankcase, cutting of crankshaft, high speed gears, changing the clutch to 200cc ones, 24/24 carbs and of course....the pinasco block....

I also cant find my proma exhaust now....dont noe where has it gone to...haiz! BUT anyway, it is not legal so i dont think i will be risking the fine to use it....

The engine is very old now cos it's been lay up for a long time....

I am planning to rebuild my engine and hence doing read ups on all the necessary stuff which may have changed these few yrs i was not riding a scoot...

My bike do not have compression now....so it's dead....i think my coil is dead too...so a through overhaul needs to be done on my current engine...

I will only start doing my body work and all the external stuff when my engine is ready (taking my time...)

[apachezulu]

Hey Gweester...you might consider Bead Blasting your whole engine to get the parts to a brand new shine before rebuilding it. Heard it is like your original engine being reborn with ALL the dirt and grease and rust off it's surface.

 

Just kaypoh a bit here....Heeee!!