SBF Tmax Cafe

[bigcow]

GUys, just seeking some opinions here....

 

i mean i do see alot of people trying to "mod" their bikes (say TMAX for eg), but i'm wondering certain things, is there really a NEED to do? like for example, changing the brake rotors, discs and suspensions etc (all to aftermarket ones)?

 

Especially when the bikes are rather new, say less than 3 yrs old... of course changing pipes is for a different set of reasons....

 

but when the reasons are for so-called "safety" reasons.. ??

 

i do believe that the yamahas & hondas have done their R&D, and the bikes are suitable for their "standard" usage. unless say one really pushes their bikes to the max, thrashing their bikes to their limits, then perhaps can justify the NEED to change to steelbraided hoses, brembo brakes, Ohlins suspension etc...

 

just tink that more often than not, the actual reasons is: just wannna be different fr the rest, got lots of $$ to spare, nothing better to do, or, if that thing's expensive, probably its much better than the stock....

 

i mean, when the TMAX is so darn new, is there really a need to change those stuff?? hmm.... hope i've not opened up a pandora box and kenna flaming....

 

but i seriously do believe that the stock machine would probably justify the needs of (perhaps) 80% of the rider's riding style (habits)...

 

haha, i also fall into the above "trap", saw the PC3 USB for sale on ebay, any purpose to buy it if i'm not changing my pipes?? hahah ... Bo Liao rite??

 

Cheers

 

well said.

[Swing 7777]

pc3 is not for performance totally..can tune for more fuel economy also..like tuning leaner for richer....y ppl mod?i can tell u its a feel good thing.y u buy own 3 bikes and a car?same thing.u do not need.its just a feel gd thing.of course there is not a ""Need to mod"" as its a feel gd thing all together.

 

Shld say its performance mod...in the end,its just like an orgasm...

[Maos Adventure]

GUys, just seeking some opinions here....

 

i mean i do see alot of people trying to "mod" their bikes (say TMAX for eg), but i'm wondering certain things, is there really a NEED to do? like for example, changing the brake rotors, discs and suspensions etc (all to aftermarket ones)?

 

Especially when the bikes are rather new, say less than 3 yrs old... of course changing pipes is for a different set of reasons....

 

but when the reasons are for so-called "safety" reasons.. ??

 

i do believe that the yamahas & hondas have done their R&D, and the bikes are suitable for their "standard" usage. unless say one really pushes their bikes to the max, thrashing their bikes to their limits, then perhaps can justify the NEED to change to steelbraided hoses, brembo brakes, Ohlins suspension etc...

 

just tink that more often than not, the actual reasons is: just wannna be different fr the rest, got lots of $$ to spare, nothing better to do, or, if that thing's expensive, probably its much better than the stock....

 

i mean, when the TMAX is so darn new, is there really a need to change those stuff?? hmm.... hope i've not opened up a pandora box and kenna flaming....

 

but i seriously do believe that the stock machine would probably justify the needs of (perhaps) 80% of the rider's riding style (habits)...

 

haha, i also fall into the above "trap", saw the PC3 USB for sale on ebay, any purpose to buy it if i'm not changing my pipes?? hahah ... Bo Liao rite??

 

Cheers

 

different people got different kind of view leh.

 

no money people change parts. people with more many one change bike & own more than 2 bikes.

[sp2]

different people got different kind of view leh.

 

no money people change parts. people with more many one change bike & own more than 2 bikes.

 

 

yah agree different ppl diff view lor... but got money who don't want their bike to fix with top range racing product even though u dont race... u need passion and money for these lor... haha... came across a flaming ducati 1098 thread... one bro mention he can change bike faster than u can change ur underwear:giddy: .... got passion and money...hee...

[sp2]

anyway.... who got Tmax 08 to borrow for see see hah? HL don't have any with them now.... wanna see the real thing before i commit... anyone???

[nkan0]

yah agree different ppl diff view lor... but got money who don't want their bike to fix with top range racing product even though u dont race... u need passion and money for these lor... haha... came across a flaming ducati 1098 thread... one bro mention he can change bike faster than u can change ur underwear:giddy: .... got passion and money...hee...

 

Ya man, i've been looking at the 1098 sale thread too, lots of flaming going on...

 

well, i've a friend said b4, a FORUM is for pp to voice their opinions, including highlighting that the sales price is too EX etc.... but in out asian context, not alot of peopl can take this kind of expression of opinions...

 

wel, hope i didnt open up a pandora box.... but sure see more responses coming fr the Bros here

 

Tommy, can explain more to me abt the usage of PC3 ?? am considering a PC3 for the TMAX, but dun think that i'lll be getting aftermarket pipes, so still make sense to get a PC3 ??

 

[sp2]

Ya man, i've been looking at the 1098 sale thread too, lots of flaming going on...

 

well, i've a friend said b4, a FORUM is for pp to voice their opinions, including highlighting that the sales price is too EX etc.... but in out asian context, not alot of peopl can take this kind of expression of opinions...

 

wel, hope i didnt open up a pandora box.... but sure see more responses coming fr the Bros here

 

 

all here friend friend bike lover... peace man...

[sp2]

Tommy, can explain more to me abt the usage of PC3 ?? am considering a PC3 for the TMAX, but dun think that i'lll be getting aftermarket pipes, so still make sense to get a PC3 ??

 

 

hey bro... urs Tmax08???

[bigcow]

hey bro... urs Tmax08???

 

there isn't any '08 tmax on the road yet. homologation not pass yet. but someone in here getting one soon. should be as soon as the homologation is passed, sure there'll be one in here.

[bigcow]

the oem exhaust sensor on the mid pipe can only auto calibrate to a certain limit. the PC3 (power commander) allows a wide range of settings. u can change settings from performance to fuel economy.

alot of local riders also got fix PC to have a more comfortable, smooth and enjoyable ride.

[bigcow]

the ohlins looks tempting.

 

got spring some more.

 

after knowing where the tmax rear shock is situated, a rear shock with expose springs is not very ideal. when the sands & stones get stuck in the springs, the spring rate will change.

[Swing 7777]

dun worry guys,flaming is wad we will not have..we are all friendly ppl n all have passion for the same things...pc3 ar..when i get alrdy i let u touch lo..hahahha..if got manual i let u browse lo..maybe by then u will post ur tmax on the sales thread..dun worry la..sure got ppl want 1..high demand..then u can buy the 08 1 chris..lol...after market parts avail alrdy...

[cheeko]

funny link for u to destress

 

Ya man, i've been looking at the 1098 sale thread too, lots of flaming going on...

 

well, i've a friend said b4, a FORUM is for pp to voice their opinions, including highlighting that the sales price is too EX etc.... but in out asian context, not alot of peopl can take this kind of expression of opinions...

 

wel, hope i didnt open up a pandora box.... but sure see more responses coming fr the Bros here

 

Tommy, can explain more to me abt the usage of PC3 ?? am considering a PC3 for the TMAX, but dun think that i'lll be getting aftermarket pipes, so still make sense to get a PC3 ??

 

[nkan0]

hey bro... urs Tmax08???

 

mine's an '05!

 

there isn't any '08 tmax on the road yet. homologation not pass yet. but someone in here getting one soon. should be as soon as the homologation is passed, sure there'll be one in here.

 

ya man.... am considering the PC3, anyone keen?? We can order together..?

 

MoMo?? U ardy gotten yr pipes, need the PC3 to UNLEASH the full power!!

 

dun worry guys,flaming is wad we will not have..we are all friendly ppl n all have passion for the same things...pc3 ar..when i get alrdy i let u touch lo..hahahha..if got manual i let u browse lo..maybe by then u will post ur tmax on the sales thread..dun worry la..sure got ppl want 1..high demand..then u can buy the 08 1 chris..lol...after market parts avail alrdy...

 

Tom, its really OBVIOUS that you're already set yr mind to get the '08!!

 

ya man, here all friendly, no flaming....

[bigcow]

ya man.... am considering the PC3, anyone keen?? We can order together..?

 

MoMo?? U ardy gotten yr pipes, need the PC3 to UNLEASH the full power!!

 

where u going to order from?

[Swing 7777]

08 pc3 diff frm pre 08..pls take note..dun kena smoke..

[Maos Adventure]

MoMo?? U ardy gotten yr pipes, need the PC3 to UNLEASH the full power!!

 

no thanks. mine still not in need of the PC3 yet.

maybe after 3years when the fuel consumption changes.

 

fyi, PC3 is not a one time mapping thingy. you need to map it as time goes on.

[nkan0]

where u going to order from?

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-DynoJet-Power-Commander-III-Yamaha-TMAX-500-04-05_W0QQitemZ230216613993QQihZ013QQcategoryZ35597QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem

 

no thanks. mine still not in need of the PC3 yet.

maybe after 3years when the fuel consumption changes.

 

fyi, PC3 is not a one time mapping thingy. you need to map it as time goes on.

 

Or Wilbers Progressive Fork Springs??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yamaha-T-Max-500-tmax-Wilbers-Progressive-Fork-Springs_W0QQitemZ300199744604QQihZ020QQcategoryZ35592QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

 

MoMo, how much u paid for yr Pipes? What are those anyway??

can PM me instead if info is too private.

[Maos Adventure]

Or Wilbers Progressive Fork Springs??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yamaha-T-Max-500-tmax-Wilbers-Progressive-Fork-Springs_W0QQitemZ300199744604QQihZ020QQcategoryZ35592QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

 

MoMo, how much u paid for yr Pipes? What are those anyway??

can PM me instead if info is too private.

 

the progressive spring is a good time to get when the US $ are down.

but i still preferred bitubo though.

 

the exhaust cost me $1200 exclude installation + inspection.

but now the price goes up abit i think due to the euro $.

 

& what do you mean by what are those anyway?

[nkan0]

the progressive spring is a good time to get when the US $ are down.

but i still preferred bitubo though.

 

the exhaust cost me $1200 exclude installation + inspection.

but now the price goes up abit i think due to the euro $.

 

& what do you mean by what are those anyway?

 

Any reason why the bitubo over the progressive springs?

FYI: US$ is expected to fall further

 

what pipes are yours i mean?? never seen yr bike with the pipes b4... FYI, never see u for a looong time already.... ??

 

cos with the low US$, i'm already thinkin of purchasing some of those parts online!!

 

Whose Keen??

[Swing 7777]

to slightly further give a clearer pic of the pc.like car,its a piggy back system..

[Maos Adventure]

Any reason why the bitubo over the progressive springs?

FYI: US$ is expected to fall further

 

what pipes are yours i mean?? never seen yr bike with the pipes b4... FYI, never see u for a looong time already.... ??

 

cos with the low US$, i'm already thinkin of purchasing some of those parts online!!

 

Whose Keen??

 

there's an option to change the whole cartridge with the springs.

but wouldn't be cheap. just another alternative for those who wants to keep the Max for long or interested in after market stuff.

 

i'm using the leo vince SBK titanium.

 

ya. its been long since we meet up.

 

its an advantage to us when USD drop.

[cagiva03]

the progressive spring is a good time to get when the US $ are down.

but i still preferred bitubo though.

 

the exhaust cost me $1200 exclude installation + inspection.

but now the price goes up abit i think due to the euro $.

 

& what do you mean by what are those anyway?

 

 

$1200 only.... Somemore it's made of Titanium... Kaoz, my GPR full sys cost $1300 without inspection.... Stainless steel somemore.....

[bigcow]

$1200 only.... Somemore it's made of Titanium... Kaoz, my GPR full sys cost $1300 without inspection.... Stainless steel somemore.....

 

he got lobang ma...

[bigcow]

Any reason why the bitubo over the progressive springs?

 

Because maybe u haven't seen wat bitubo has to offer. Momo and i have seen it and WAO...... You'll be suprise. I really regret not getting a tmax. But too late. My current bike will tie me down for some time. And not forgetting, we got our own lobangs... hehe... Right Mao???

 

for the front

T-Max ABB09

 

Developed by Bitubo for the Maxiscooter Italian Trophy, the ABB09 Fork Cartridge Kit for Yamaha T-Max 500 meets the requirements of the fans who don't wish to give up aggressive driving on their Maxi Scooter.

The kit consists of a pair of complete cartridges, pressurised with nitrogen, with the hydraulics totally redesigned for optimum control of the forecarriage.

The top caps, in Ergal 7075, replacing the original ones, now provide for the adjustment of the preloading of the springs, included in the kit, for customised calibration.

 

Technical characteristics of the ABB 09 Cartridge Kit for T-Max 500:

> Cr-Si alloy steel springs with linear rigidity

> Ergal top cap, with millimetric preload spring adjustment.

> Hydraulic unit in a sealed and nitrogen pressurised cartridge, with oversize pistons and laminar packs studied for the perfect control of damping.

 

The kit also contains low viscosity Competition Oil, for improved sleeve-spool smoothness, and its delivery with complete mounting instrucrion.

 

 

http://80.68.199.26/bitubo_images/ABB09_fuchsNew_Eng.jpg

 

for the rear

HZT 12 - Racing Monoshock for Yamaha T-Max 500

 

We have just presented here in Italy at the Maxiscooter Championship Race in the city of Magione (PG) the new Mono Racing for T-MAX 500.

 

HZT 12 is a mono shock absorber with separate compensation chambre, pressurized with Nitrogen. The special kinematic motion of the rear suspension of T-Max (with a drawing action) led to the special styling design of the Mono HZT 12, with the spring 'hidden' inside the structure, anodized in aggressive "Black Chrome" finshed.

 

Setting adjustments :

- Length

- Spring preload

- Rebound

- Compression

Available for all Yamaha T-Max model Years 2001 - 2007

 

http://80.68.199.26/bitubo_images/T_max2web.jpg