Bikes To Avoid...

[sICkbOi-dOt-cOm]

If there's such thing as "Bikes to avoid" den it shouldnt be a Bike itself... treat it like a bicycle...

[kmax]

this thread is pure nonsense, admin u can close it now. Pure pathetic craps here. Smelly n ugly.

 

no wonder u r under moderator review.. good luck

[thenation]

Haha check out his other posts, they're actually funny if you look at the list.

[mamat]

there's no bike to avoid,just things to avoid doing to a bike

[LeXiong]

true. but it fish tail during rainy days.

 

it only a matter that how you control..

[jtzx]

so what is the perfect and 5 best bike one should purchase after passing TP? and why?(class 2B)

 

 

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[tbackt]

1- gilera vxr 200

2- pulsar 200

3- X1-R

4- Rxz

5- varadero 125

[kindako]

1. Cagiva Mito 525 '09 - Looks are great with great parts that come with bike for example Brembo, Ohlins, etc, etc, etc.

 

2. Aprilia Rs 125 '06 onwards - Looks are great with great parts that come with bike for example Digital Meter, Brembo, Ohlins, etc, etc, etc.

 

3. Kawasaki KRR 150 - Great smooth engine, Still in production. Spare parts are cheap and easy to find. Value for money

 

4. Honda NSR 150 SP - Great bike, great handleing, but out of production. Spare parts are cheap and easy to find. Value for money

 

5. Yamaha Spark LC135 - Great Fuel Consumption

[BioMoDiFIed]

1. Cagiva Mito 525 '09 - Looks are great with great parts that come with bike for example Brembo, Ohlins, etc, etc, etc.

yeah! but when the time comes to change those parts...

2. Aprilia Rs 125 '06 onwards - Looks are great with great parts that come with bike for example Digital Meter, Brembo, Ohlins, etc, etc, etc.

Same as the above..

3. Kawasaki KRR 150 - Great smooth engine, Still in production. Spare parts are cheap and easy to find. Value for money

will work fine, unless modify like crazy

4. Honda NSR 150 SP - Great bike, great handleing, but out of production. Spare parts are cheap and easy to find. Value for money

so far never heard of any issues on this bike, but usually see this bike get crumpled like a beer can due to rider tinking he riding CBR600

5. Yamaha Spark LC135 - Great Fuel Consumption

This one i agree totally.Another contender is also the X1/X1R. but i tink most kupchais do giv great fuel economy

[BioMoDiFIed]

but i tink for my personal view, the kawa KSR shud be avoided...its more of a safety issue...even big bikes have a problem of not getting noticed OTR, what more a KSR?

Once i was driving, wanted to change lane, lucky i checked my blindspot(which i always do). All that i saw was a helmet which passed by the passenger window! and i tot it was Ghostrider arrived in s'pore riding his pocket bike...futhermore it was on the AYE! My eyes followed the helmet and to my surprise was a pit bike sized bike with a legal number plate! Soon i found out it was a KSR and its street legal!

But seriously, its dangerous riding the bike. its all due to its small size which leads to a safety issue...

[cumified]

Can also consider cbr150r, low maintenance bike. TA200 not a good bike for beginner because of posture and riding technique different from the ones at Riding Center.

 

i am 2mth old rider cruising a modified phantom with the fork lengthen. its perfectly fine. juz have to get used to the different posture i guess.

[slutgarden]

i am 2mth old rider cruising a modified phantom with the fork lengthen. its perfectly fine. juz have to get used to the different posture i guess.

 

yeah, agreed..

 

and those who says that cruiser's, esp phantom in this case, suck at handling, because the rider sucks. yes, that is the inconvenient truth..

 

phantom's braking although disc brakes front and back, you think you can brake in time like Sp's or other bikes?.

 

the cause of fish tail is due to the hard sudden tap on the rear brakes, if it fishtails often, can just simply adjust whaaat.

 

or just change your pathetic tyres for goodness sake.

[NobIvoj]

TA200 was my first bike. I owned a 5year old model for one full year, And let me tell you, they don't age well. The maintainence is simply a cycle of a part breaking down which in return breaks down another part and so on.

Of Course this happens not as often as you'd fear they would.

 

In the one year of my 5 year old TA200, I had to replace:

 

The magnetic coil

Top overhaul twice in that year

Clutch plates

6th gear was worn off

Shaft teeth were worn off

Clutch housing

Cam chain, tensioner, camchain guide

Bearings, sprockets, etc, clutch cable,

 

Yes maybe i was darn unlucky, maybe i bought the bike at a working condition and then everything chose to break down during my time of ownership.

 

Let me add a little more:

I was more orientated towards touring, and i researched and toyed around with windshields, modified the cushion time and again to achieve different results, played around with boxes and bags, tried and adjusted handlebars to get the best angle around.

 

So after reading all this you may start to wonder what i'm getting at, is this:

 

An old TA200 can be a problematic bike with age : But i learnt SO much about maintainence, repair and how2care for a bike.

 

It may be a 2B classer : But this little problem child took me around the whole perimeter of Malaysia over 7 days, and guess what? It did that with a spoiled speedo cable and a dying magnetic coil.

 

It may 'fish tail' while cornering in the wet : But you're lucky, 'fish tails' are recoverable with body weight and counter-steer. Try cornering a Cub in the wet. See how you'll recover a front wheel 'Wash Out'.

 

I seem to be able to better understand the importance of wind flow, body position, seat angle, seat skin, the immense discomfort which vibrations can cause. I seem to be able to understand the cornering charateristics of this bike, the power it can deliver at which gears, the understanding the powerband solely by listening to the sound of the engine.

 

Conclusion:

An old or 2nd hand TA200 is by far, the most WONDERFUL, and I mean it wonderful, bike I would recommended for the new bike enthusiast. It could take you 1000 miles away, it would slowly break down with ample warning for you to do your own fault finding and even be able to ride it to a bike shop for repairs far away. Spare parts are affordably cheaper than others. Its hard to find a bikeshop that doesn't know how to fix a TA200. As a motorbike, it's handling on the road is comparable to what Britney Spears is to Opera Singing. When my bike dropped to the ground, It's so bloody heavy that a passerby thought I was Hossan Leong trying to lift up a 'Honda Davidson'.

 

Yes, Its a b**ch to maintain due to age repairs,It's weird to handle,It's not very comfortable and Its slippery.

 

Well for your info, I ride a brand new CBF 150 now. I tour around well on it. Maintenance is a breeze. I can sense which parts are going to fail me when something doesn't sound or feel right. The bike handles well. And all this is NOT because it is a very good bike.

 

Its because I've learnt SO much about biking. Biking isn't about getting on your bike and riding into the sunset happily ever after. There's the breakdowns, the frustrations, the grease on you hands, the fines and fees, the wind in your face, the aches in your back and the heartstopping near-misses.

 

And I've learnt so much of these from the best element : EXPERIENCE.

The charismatic Honda TA200 Phantom gave me all of that and more.

 

Any award winning brand new bike will never give me such a good lesson with experience to prep me towards my years of biking.

 

For your reading pleasures,

NobIvoj

Edited March 13, 2009 by NobIvoj

[NobIvoj]

I would buy a 2nd hand TA200 if it was my first bike. Buy for about 1500, after a year sell for 1200... visit bike mechanics more often, learn more about bike maintenance. Learn on how to adapt and humanly correct the bike errors yourself. Its an allover enriching experience.

 

But I've i were already a seasoned biker...No way I'd buy an old TA200. I'd have enough experience I guess. =)

[slutgarden]

TA200 was my first bike. I owned a 5year old model for one full year, And let me tell you, they don't age well. The maintainence is simply a cycle of a part breaking down which in return breaks down another part and so on.

Of Course this happens not as often as you'd fear they would.

 

In the one year of my 5 year old TA200, I had to replace:

 

The magnetic coil

Top overhaul twice in that year

Clutch plates

6th gear was worn off

Shaft teeth were worn off

Clutch housing

Cam chain, tensioner, camchain guide

Bearings, sprockets, etc, clutch cable,

 

Yes maybe i was darn unlucky, maybe i bought the bike at a working condition and then everything chose to break down during my time of ownership.

 

Let me add a little more:

I was more orientated towards touring, and i researched and toyed around with windshields, modified the cushion time and again to achieve different results, played around with boxes and bags, tried and adjusted handlebars to get the best angle around.

 

So after reading all this you may start to wonder what i'm getting at, is this:

 

An old TA200 can be a problematic bike with age : But i learnt SO much about maintainence, repair and how2care for a bike.

 

It may be a 2B classer : But this little problem child took me around the whole perimeter of Malaysia over 7 days, and guess what? It did that with a spoiled speedo cable and a dying magnetic coil.

 

It may 'fish tail' while cornering in the wet : But you're lucky, 'fish tails' are recoverable with body weight and counter-steer. Try cornering a Cub in the wet. See how you'll recover a front wheel 'Wash Out'.

 

I seem to be able to better understand the importance of wind flow, body position, seat angle, seat skin, the immense discomfort which vibrations can cause. I seem to be able to understand the cornering charateristics of this bike, the power it can deliver at which gears, the understanding the powerband solely by listening to the sound of the engine.

 

Conclusion:

An old or 2nd hand TA200 is by far, the most WONDERFUL, and I mean it wonderful, bike I would recommended for the new bike enthusiast. It could take you 1000 miles away, it would slowly break down with ample warning for you to do your own fault finding and even be able to ride it to a bike shop for repairs far away. Spare parts are affordably cheaper than others. Its hard to find a bikeshop that doesn't know how to fix a TA200. As a motorbike, it's handling on the road is comparable to what Britney Spears is to Opera Singing. When my bike dropped to the ground, It's so bloody heavy that a passerby thought I was Hossan Leong trying to lift up a 'Honda Davidson'.

 

Yes, Its a b**ch to maintain due to age repairs,It's weird to handle,It's not very comfortable and Its slippery.

 

Well for your info, I ride a brand new CBF 150 now. I tour around well on it. Maintenance is a breeze. I can sense which parts are going to fail me when something doesn't sound or feel right. The bike handles well. And all this is NOT because it is a very good bike.

 

Its because I've learnt SO much about biking. Biking isn't about getting on your bike and riding into the sunset happily ever after. There's the breakdowns, the frustrations, the grease on you hands, the fines and fees, the wind in your face, the aches in your back and the heartstopping near-misses.

 

And I've learnt so much of these from the best element : EXPERIENCE.

The charismatic Honda TA200 Phantom gave me all of that and more.

 

Any award winning brand new bike will never give me such a good lesson with experience to prep me towards my years of biking.

 

For your reading pleasures,

NobIvoj

 

 

I salute you sir, riding is not a breeze. nothing is easy, although fun and can bring you to such high level of bliss and euphoria once you get through with it..

 

many would dislike a bike due to them failing to understand what went wrong, they get impatient and disses of the bike in an instant..

 

it's not always about the rider, sometimes it's about the bike as well.

[NobIvoj]

Sorry Off-Topic-Abit

 

I like this movie alot. It sure is more meaningful than watching LongWayRound.

 

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Top-Gear-season-12-8_208364.htm

[kraikk]

NobIvoj - very inspiring story you have. I have had and am still having a similar experience with my bicycle, which I bought second hand and has been with me for over a year. It has been with me to places I never dreamed of visiting and taught me so much.

 

As for motorcycles my TA200 has been with me for several months now with hardly any problems. Fortunately, I suppose, but I miss out on the learning curve. Not that I would go hoping it breaks down.

[ProFatSir]

no one is born a great rider.

know the bike like your buddy.

and you can control.

wear and tear will happens.

maintain your bike.

ride safe

[vtr firestorm]

Hi Kmax..... only one bike aft all those i owned......

 

GTS200, is a Taiwan scotter......... owned one for a bloody short while,

the tech behind tis made dont seem to able to cope with normal wear &

tear..... normal ride in daily S'pore rd...... parts dont last too long althot

is cheap........

 

On the another side on the coin, it is huge, nice design & comfortable......

[vtr firestorm]

yeah, agreed..

 

and those who says that cruiser's, esp phantom in this case, suck at handling, because the rider sucks. yes, that is the inconvenient truth..

 

phantom's braking although disc brakes front and back, you think you can brake in time like Sp's or other bikes?.

 

the cause of fish tail is due to the hard sudden tap on the rear brakes, if it fishtails often, can just simply adjust whaaat.

 

or just change your pathetic tyres for goodness sake.

 

 

Stock rubbers off cos dont offer gd grip as compared to better one, the idea of Honda to introduce TA200 i belived is the low cost.... so do think they will equipped it will gd rubbers.....

 

Get it change & u shall see improvement in the grip, brake & corner departments.

 

Heavy at rear.... maybe try the check to see if the rear is inflated to the rite psi.......

[mamat]

avoid bikes u can't afford

[vibration_42]

I guess the TA200 is a good bike to have? I'm a new rider and got a TA200 myself. So far so good! Only top up fuel in like 3months? haha! Super cheap to maintain and serviceable!

[zyrofillica]

wow Top up fuel once in 3 months? so you go toilet piss every week once?

[foreveraz]

ha. 1 week into newly owning a phantom and i topped up fuel twice le. ha. But both add up 10L lah. 3 months once, wat the...

[Xenophobia07]

Sounds more possible if he's talking about Engine Oil, but Fuel? Unless you ride bicycle most of the time, you're going to have to top up more often than that!