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[Technical] Possible Solutions to your Phantom's Problem

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ckoonyin Newbie

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LoL do you know how your choke works firstly? ;)

 

eh......if i am not mistaken ah....it opens a valve to let in more air to change the air to fuel ratio??

 

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VidaK Newbie

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eh......if i am not mistaken ah....it opens a valve to let in more air to change the air to fuel ratio??

 

:cheeky:

 

well... when you pull the choke the fuel to air ratio increases...

 

too rich might kill off the engine instead... :smile:

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ckoonyin Newbie

ckoonyin

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well... when you pull the choke the fuel to air ratio increases...

 

too rich might kill off the engine instead... :smile:

 

oh! that is something new....no wonder my engine dies when i pull the choke put all the way.:angel:

 

but even when i pull it out like a little bit like about 5 mm or so the engine also KO....er....means everything is ok ma? :shy:

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VidaK Newbie

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oh! that is something new....no wonder my engine dies when i pull the choke put all the way.:angel:

 

but even when i pull it out like a little bit like about 5 mm or so the engine also KO....er....means everything is ok ma? :shy:

 

maybe your fuel to air ratio was already rich in the first place... pulling the choke would suffocate the engine...

 

I don't ever pull my choke... I rather increase the idling speed a little bit :smile:

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mepkoh Newbie

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eh......if i am not mistaken ah....it opens a valve to let in more air to change the air to fuel ratio??

 

:cheeky:

hey..u got it wrong...it reduces the air...while it takes in more petrol....so that it is easier to start engine...

on the other hand too much fuel will instead cool and wet the spark plug making it hard to spark properly...

 

u know a bit salt is tasty...adding more of it to the food...make it taste aweful..something like that..

Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience every time:dot:

Sâundless Newbie

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A choke is used in conjunction with a carburetor. It is a valve that opens and closes to restrict air flow, the restriction enriches the fuel/air mixture to aid in the initial startup of the vehicle. The choke creates a stronger vacuum to pull more fuel from the jets and into the air/fuel mixture. When the engine warms up the choke slowly releases and stays in the wide open position.

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VidaK Newbie

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A choke is used in conjunction with a carburetor. It is a valve that opens and closes to restrict air flow, the restriction enriches the fuel/air mixture to aid in the initial startup of the vehicle. The choke creates a stronger vacuum to pull more fuel from the jets and into the air/fuel mixture. When the engine warms up the choke slowly releases and stays in the wide open position.

 

hmmm... are you part of the invasion forces out to spy on me...? :sweat:

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Sâundless Newbie

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hmmm... are you part of the invasion forces out to spy on me...? :sweat:

Think so.......:angel:

 

Just to correct you also.....

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VidaK Newbie

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Think so.......:angel:

 

Just to correct you also.....

 

no... I should correct you instead...

 

well... when you pull the choke the fuel to air ratio increases...

 

too rich might kill off the engine instead... :smile:

 

A choke is used in conjunction with a carburetor. It is a valve that opens and closes to restrict air flow, the restriction enriches the fuel/air mixture to aid in the initial startup of the vehicle. The choke creates a stronger vacuum to pull more fuel from the jets and into the air/fuel mixture. When the engine warms up the choke slowly releases and stays in the wide open position.

 

what I said is a much simplified version of how the choke works... i.e. to enrich the fuel to air ratio... and for phantoms, the choke does not release itself :cheeky:

 

stop spying on me!!

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mepkoh Newbie

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A choke is used in conjunction with a carburetor. It is a valve that opens and closes to restrict air flow, the restriction enriches the fuel/air mixture to aid in the initial startup of the vehicle. The choke creates a stronger vacuum to pull more fuel from the jets and into the air/fuel mixture. When the engine warms up the choke slowly releases and stays in the wide open position.

 

hey ta200 dont have auto choke..it is all manual..u activate it u stop it.

 

most modern carburated cars

have auto chokes..but fuel injection makes this redundant...

 

very soon all bikes will be fuel injection too..

Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience every time:dot:

Sâundless Newbie

Sâundless

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no... I should correct you instead...

 

 

 

 

 

what I said is a much simplified version of how the choke works... i.e. to enrich the fuel to air ratio... and for phantoms, the choke does not release itself :cheeky:

 

stop spying on me!!

 

Why scared ppl spy on you????

 

We having ops "whats vidak is doing"

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Sâundless Newbie

Sâundless

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hey ta200 dont have auto choke..it is all manual..u activate it u stop it.

 

most modern carburated cars

have auto chokes..but fuel injection makes this redundant...

 

very soon all bikes will be fuel injection too..

 

Most of newer bike model already fuel injection.

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Sâundless Newbie

Sâundless

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Why u spying on Vidak? So bad so sad..

 

Because dreamwalk ask me to........ He want to know how vidak clock post. :angel:

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pipipapipu Newbie

pipipapipu

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Because dreamwalk ask me to........ He want to know how vidak clock post. :angel:

 

 

Oic.. Ok den.. Pls carry on. I'm outta here..

The only reason why I'm not laughing with you is that I prefer laughing at you.

VidaK Newbie

VidaK

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Why scared ppl spy on you????

 

We having ops "whats vidak is doing"

 

... :dozed:

 

Why u spying on Vidak? So bad so sad..

 

no... not you too...

 

Because dreamwalk ask me to........ He want to know how vidak ***** ****. :angel:

 

that is a sensitive term in the pk forums...

 

and I don't engage myself in such unscrupulous activities... :smile:

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mepkoh Newbie

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btw.. how come fuel injection takes away the choke function?

choke is part of the caburetta...fuel injection is totally diff system ...

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jB Newbie

jB

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btw.. how come fuel injection takes away the choke function?

I'm answerering you with a question, You know how FI works? :cheeky:

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chocolatejay Newbie

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hi guys, i have a friend hu recently has a problem with his phantom. his exhaust is emiting white smoke..he is riding a ta200 btw..it is stated that possible reason could be piston ring..other than that is there any other possibility?? sorry as both me and my friend never encountered this prob b4 so we are clueless..it would be great if anyone with an answer could pm me or else u could just state it here and i will come check soon. thank you.

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armani123sg Newbie

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hi guys, i have a friend hu recently has a problem with his phantom. his exhaust is emiting white smoke..he is riding a ta200 btw..it is stated that possible reason could be piston ring..other than that is there any other possibility?? sorry as both me and my friend never encountered this prob b4 so we are clueless..it would be great if anyone with an answer could pm me or else u could just state it here and i will come check soon. thank you.

 

most prob piston ring problem, which is causing EO to leak into e exhaust, dunno whether ur pistons itself got problem onot. i would suggest towing it to ur preferred bike shop and hope the damage is not alot... if really piston damaged, nd to overhaul which might cost about $400... :)

 

of course if u wanna know which is a reliable workshop, usually everyone would tell u one name... u can PM me if u wanna know, P*****...

chocolatejay Newbie

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most prob piston ring problem, which is causing EO to leak into e exhaust, dunno whether ur pistons itself got problem onot. i would suggest towing it to ur preferred bike shop and hope the damage is not alot... if really piston damaged, nd to overhaul which might cost about $400... :)

 

of course if u wanna know which is a reliable workshop, usually everyone would tell u one name... u can PM me if u wanna know, P*****...

 

yea bro ah chong also say its probably a problem with the piston..but the thing is my friend just changed the piston like 6 months ago at planet...so its abit harsh to have to change piston and ring again in just 6 months..ns man so financially tight summor...so i wanted to find out if there were any other cheaper alternatives or smth like that...thanks though!

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sh3rman Newbie

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I'm answerering you with a question, You know how FI works? :cheeky:

 

den i reply ur question with another question?

hahaha.. wats the difference between FI and carb?

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ckoonyin Newbie

ckoonyin

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hey..u got it wrong...it reduces the air...while it takes in more petrol....so that it is easier to start engine...

on the other hand too much fuel will instead cool and wet the spark plug making it hard to spark properly...

 

u know a bit salt is tasty...adding more of it to the food...make it taste aweful..something like that..

 

eh.....totally confused liao....so in other words.......my choke is working fine ya?

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jevan Newbie

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hi, i sometimes have this ticking sound. i think its coming from my exhaust area. can hear it clearly when i stop the bike. is this a problem?

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