V-Strom (650cc & 1000cc)

[Manzz]

some the details are

 

It was a freak accident ,the convoy was not speeding, b. He was the only filial child had only his mother at home, according to his mother he was the replacement rider for the trip , not slated to go but there was a last minute slotted given up so he slotted himself into it.

 

The journey was uneventful until he reach ipoh , kansar then the tragic accident occur , but thanks to the team who followed up with him and help the mother,who flew up , oversee the retrieval of the body back to Singapore. this is a tragic loss ,the wake is held in blk 204 marsiling drive till 26 Apr 8 am then they will proceed to the crematorium .

 

The mother is appreciative that the team stay with her and help arranged the affair

 

This was his First trip to Hatyai

 

As to the detail of the accident no one know for sure , according to the news the police is saying he hit the sign board pole

 

 

 

 

according to the news the incident happen 10:05 am at the 257km marker on the NSHW near kuala Kangsar and they are in a group of 9 bikes and 3 car convoy to hatyai this was his first time traveling in their group to Thailand.

 

there is no eyewitness to the incident and when one of the member arrived they found the bike at the side of the railing as shown in the pictures and him on the grass patch after the railing and they were extremely upset.

 

they waited for the ambulance to arrive and accompany him to the kansar hosptial where they performed an autopsy on him and about 10 of them had stayed with him throughout at the morgue until the mom took a flight out to identified the son in the afternoon.

 

the bike was sent to the computerise inspection center.

 

the police are investigating the event under section 41(1) of the traffic act

 

He is the only child and son and he died at the age of 29 leaving only his mother behind

 

additonal inform ; the group he was with had help to arrange all his affair and had accompany him and the mother back to Singapore

 

Salute to them.

 

I think I can relate to his mum's anguish. And I better appreciate my mum's worry everytime I ride up. For I am all my mum has. I'm 29 too. I think I know what to do now. I hope LollyPop is adequately covered so that his mum has one less thing to worry about. And I really hope she can recover from this tragedy though it may take a while. My sincere and deepest condolences to her. RIP fellow rider.

[Guest motofreak]

happen to meet a orange wee FBF 25XX on the road juz now... juz like to say him, sorry i was in a rush juz now.

 

1.That was me bro... Was still running in so the bike is a lil bit sluggish... No worries about rushing off... At least i got a friendly nod.

 

2.Condolences to the mother of the fallen rider... Seeing the picture of the crumpled bike just dun make it look as thou its just a simple accident. Almost looks like a hit and run instead. Totally trashed... Nevertheless... Any loss of life a is a sad one indeed... May his soul ride on...

[varadero8212]

Hi guys, i am Zac from vara thread, anyone going down over the weekend and wanna pay our last respects together... Any biker is a fren even though i didnt know him... Call me at 94874311 is anyone is going down yeah. Cheers all...

[maxxmadness]

some the details are

 

It was a freak accident ,the convoy was not speeding, b. He was the only filial child had only his mother at home, according to his mother he was the replacement rider for the trip , not slated to go but there was a last minute slotted given up so he slotted himself into it.

 

The journey was uneventful until he reach ipoh , kansar then the tragic accident occur , but thanks to the team who followed up with him and help the mother,who flew up , oversee the retrieval of the body back to Singapore. this is a tragic loss ,the wake is held in blk 204 marsiling drive till 26 Apr 8 am then they will proceed to the crematorium .

 

The mother is appreciative that the team stay with her and help arranged the affair

 

This was his First trip to Hatyai

 

As to the detail of the accident no one know for sure , according to the news the police is saying he hit the sign board pole

 

 

 

 

according to the news the incident happen 10:05 am at the 257km marker on the NSHW near kuala Kangsar and they are in a group of 9 bikes and 3 car convoy to hatyai this was his first time traveling in their group to Thailand.

 

there is no eyewitness to the incident and when one of the member arrived they found the bike at the side of the railing as shown in the pictures and him on the grass patch after the railing and they were extremely upset.

 

they waited for the ambulance to arrive and accompany him to the kansar hosptial where they performed an autopsy on him and about 10 of them had stayed with him throughout at the morgue until the mom took a flight out to identified the son in the afternoon.

 

the bike was sent to the computerise inspection center.

 

the police are investigating the event under section 41(1) of the traffic act

 

He is the only child and son and he died at the age of 29 leaving only his mother behind

 

additonal inform ; the group he was with had help to arrange all his affair and had accompany him and the mother back to Singapore

 

Salute to them.

 

report is not accurate

 

they are on their way to Betong and not Hatyai.

 

This is not the first time he has ridden with this group of riders..He has been riding with us since 2005 or 2006, when he was still riding a fz6. But this is the first time my riding group is going to Betong.

 

the additional inform is not correct. His mother and family members return on a coach the same day, the rest of the riders were too tired and stayed over before returning the next day. But before the family arrived, they did their best and what they can to arrange our fallen friend to return to signapore asap so that the faimly members need not stay a day to do the necessary arrangement.

 

no one can accept how and why the accident happen but we like to leave it as how the police report was written

Edited April 23, 2011 by maxxmadness

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

report is not accurate

 

they are on their way to Betong and not Hatyai.

 

This is not the first time he has ridden with this group of riders..He has been riding with us since 2005 or 2006, when he was still riding a fz6. But this is the first time my riding group is going to Betong.

 

the additional inform is not correct. His mother and family members return on a coach the same day, the rest of the riders were too tired and stayed over before returning the next day. But before the family arrived, they did their best and what they can to arrange our fallen friend to return to signapore asap so that the faimly members need not stay a day to do the necessary arrangement.

 

no one can accept how and why the accident happen but we like to leave it as how the police report was written

 

 

thanks for the inform and correction bro my condolences to you and the fellow riding buddies take care, ride safe

[khaitronic]

Tonight together with other strommers will pay my last respect to our beloved lollypop..

 

Heading to his wake at 9pm...

 

Join us if u guys free...

 

 

and

 

After that will go in JB touch n go for fuel top up...

 

 

Ride safe!..

[TaNk3e]

i will be going to the wake tonite with khaitronic at abt 9, do give a sms (8113 4267) if u like to join us... the chinese believe that during the last nite of the wake, it's better to be crowded for some believes that i forgot...

 

i was shock when a fren call asking me if i have heard anything on our fellow rider that he pass away on his trip to Betong, it was so shocking to heard that it's really him when i juz saw him abt a week ago at nex

 

Rest In Peace My friend!

[dajal666]

RIP LOLLYPOP. My condolences to his family. To all riders ride safe.

[slaxz]

Read about him first thing in the morning on newpaper... tragic news.. RIP Lollipop

[chrislayer]

My deepest condolences to the late rider's family. It is sad to read this happening to a fellow rider. Ride safe guys.

 

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[ATwin]

Sad to heard this news. RIP to the fellow biker and Deepest condolences to the family members.

[yancurly8]

Rest in peace and condolescences to the departed's family... Ride safe brudders.. Tk cr...

[barracuda]

My deepest condolences to lollypop's family members. Kudos to the team who stood by him during the trip. A worthy example for all of us that we leave no one behind.

[casio]

OMG.. this is extremely sad. though I don't know bro loli personally, my condolences go to his mum (and family) whom I am sure is devastated by this loss. RIP brother!!

[AirWoLF]

Oh no...

I just read both the vstrom facebook and this page...

My condolences to him and his family...

New to this forum but knowing that a fellow rider pass away while on his ride aches my heart badly...

 

Ride safe everyone and god bless and keep us all safe in each of our journey on the road...

[dok]

RIP to the fellow biker and Deepest condolences to the family members.

[razin]

First of all my condolence to the family of Bro Loli. RIP to Bro Loli. The grp overtook me before the tunnel. They were definitely not fast, 2 FJR in front were faster but I am not sure they were the same grp. When I reached the site, the bike was on the left lane, we carried it to the railing because it was very dangerous with many oncoming cars and buses on a curvy descending slope right after the infamous speed breaker. Then me and a PROPEL staff (who also called for help with his hand phone) went to alert the oncoming cars to slow down and divert to the right lane. A bus almost hit a car at that time. After the PROPEL staff, a young Malay chap, managed to control the diverting the traffic, I went to see Bro Loli. I immediately recognized Bro Wazi (an ex-racer, a biker friend, white shirt with camera) who was helping the grp. I did not see any external injury, and he was still breathing. I stayed on for a while and learned that they were heading to the same direction as mine. My only guess is tank slapping (think v-stormer should know better). The speed breaker should slowed down our speed, and the curve is not very sharp.

[anodise57]

God bless Steven ...

 

 

And his Mum.....

 

No mere words can be put upon the pedestal to bring about a better situation....

Only can pray that he is in a better place ... and in time ..... we will see him again....

 

with This I dedicate this song to you my friend..............

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b250/anodise5757/Beyond/123.jpg

Edited April 24, 2011 by anodise57

[Al-Simmons]

First of all my condolence to the family of Bro Loli. RIP to Bro Loli. The grp overtook me before the tunnel. They were definitely not fast, 2 FJR in front were faster but I am not sure they were the same grp. When I reached the site, the bike was on the left lane, we carried it to the railing because it was very dangerous with many oncoming cars and buses on a curvy descending slope right after the infamous speed breaker. Then me and a PROPEL staff (who also called for help with his hand phone) went to alert the oncoming cars to slow down and divert to the right lane. A bus almost hit a car at that time. After the PROPEL staff, a young Malay chap, managed to control the diverting the traffic, I went to see Bro Loli. I immediately recognized Bro Wazi (an ex-racer, a biker friend, white shirt with camera) who was helping the grp. I did not see any external injury, and he was still breathing. I stayed on for a while and learned that they were heading to the same direction as mine. My only guess is tank slapping (think v-stormer should know better). The speed breaker should slowed down our speed, and the curve is not very sharp.

 

RIP to the rider and condolences to the mum.

 

Please enlighten me on the tank slapping.

Read many myths about tank slapping. How do you define it.

What causes it? Bike handling? Bike configuration? Rider's ability to control bike? Road condition? Surrounding condition?

Edited April 24, 2011 by Al-Simmons

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

RIP to the rider and condolences to the mum.

 

Please enlighten me on the tank slapping.

Read many myths about tank slapping. How do you define it.

What causes it? Bike handling? Bike configuration? Rider's ability to control bike? Road condition? Surrounding condition?

 

Thanks razin n fellow bikers for the help

[Asap]

Sad to hear this news. Deepest condolence to his mum. May his soul rest in peace....

[tom cool]

RIP and may god blessed his soul, though i do not know him...

[razin]

Tank slapping is a rare but real phenomenon. Pls google for more info. At certain angle after hard wobbling of front tyre, the bike can go high side. That's I guess what happened to Bro Loli. The front tyre was lying on the grass near the railing and the bike was about two meter from the railing. The newspaper image is not the real picture. The bike was still in one piece although broken pieces here and there. I am posting the pictures here for you all to see the truth. The police theory might be correct a bout the pole. I hope this will clear much of the air.

Edited April 25, 2011 by razin

[Al-Simmons]

For the benefit of other riders who have yet to experience tank slapping and not to jump into conclusion of what happen to the tragic accident.

 

Tank Slapping

 

Wobble, shimmy, tank-slapper,[1] speed wobble, and even death wobble are all words and phrases used to describe a quick (4 - 10 Hz) oscillation of primarily just the steerable wheel(s) of a vehicle. The rest of the vehicle remains mostly unaffected. Vehicles that can experience this oscillation include bikes, both motorcycles and bicycles, skateboards, and in theory any vehicle with a single steering pivot point and a sufficient amount of freedom of the steered wheel; this does not include most automobiles, however, coil-sprung vehicles with a track bar setup such as the Jeep WJ, XJ, ZJ, TJ, and JK with both stock and after-market suspension lifts may have this problem also. This instability occurs mostly at high speed and is similar to that experienced by shopping cart wheels and aircraft landing gear

 

Wobble or shimmy begins when some otherwise minor irregularity accelerates the wheel to one side. The restoring force is applied in phase with the progress of the irregularity, and the wheel turns to the other side where the process is repeated. If there is insufficient damping in the steering the oscillation will increase until system failure. The oscillation frequency can be changed by changing the forward speed, making the bike stiffer or lighter, or increasing the stiffness of the steering, of which the rider is a main component.[2] While wobble or shimmy can be easily remedied by adjusting speed, position, or grip on the handlebar, it can be fatal if left uncontrolled.[4]

 

Since shimmy frequency is independent of bike speed, gyroscopic effects "are clearly not essential to the phenomenon."[2] The top five influences on wobble have been found to be lateral stiffness of the front tire, steering damper, height of bike center of mass, distance of bike center of mass from rear wheel, and cornering stiffness of the front tire.[3]

 

An academic paper that investigated wobble through physical experimentation and computer modeling concludes: "the influence on wobble mode of front tyre characteristics, front frame inertia and chassis stiffness were shown. In particular, it shows that [by] increasing front tire inflation, stiffness chassis, and front frame inertia about steering axis and decreasing sideslip stiffness of front tire, wobble mode damping is improved, promoting vehicle stability.

 

Take note of the highlighted sentences. As our bike is engineered in such a way that it influence to what called "tank slapping" in 2 ways, basically the height of the center of mass and the distance of bike center of mass from rear wheel. Because of the CG is high, the bike is relatively light at high speed making the front wheel wobbling at certain speed. This happen to ALL adventure tourers (be it Varaderos, TDMs, ATs, Tigers and even GSes) as these bikes are not engineered in such a way to go at very high speed.

 

I believe each rider need to know of the bike full potential and at how fast the bike can go before the front wheel start to wobble slightly. Rider need to get accustomed to the bike. I've always into the idea of some of the guys in the forum to go for frequent top up sessions to 2nd link where there is the only time for you to actually test the limit of the bike's handling especially at NSH. When you go for long trips, you have actually familiarised with the bike's handling power and control.

 

The more you ride = the more control you get from your bike. So ride more and ride safe

[anodise57]

That I agree with Al-Simmons....

 

Don take it for granted ....

 

When I 1st took over wee,

I felt the front light @ 140-160...

Feels totally different from super4 and blackbird.

GOing up cameron highlands. Its so nimble that i was shocked when i took the corner..

You cannot take it like street/sports/hypersports cornering method...

 

Ride safe all my frens...