Aprilia Riders

[brandon.]

the x1 is FZ 8912 if im not wrong u see , it's outside the shop, he even told me the guy sold to him and upgrade to r6 , u can change mech.

[priller07]

eh priller , that guy lj wei with you. i was there @ 4.30 and i was smoking walking around as my bike was being serviced , so i saw ure bike from outside and then i went in , he was freaking fixing the spark and he WAS TRYING TO SELL ME a x1 FZ PLATE FOR 1.6k , how sick can he be. wtf?!?!?!?!?!?

 

I know the previous owner of that x1. Good and friendly fella.

 

Anyways, he told me he sick on monday so he never open up my bike. So later after work gonna take bus there and talk a looksee. Sian ley wait so long then my bike never start work sia.

[brandon.]

ahhahahah ur friend x1 coverset nice.

[fatnobo]

OPERATION DIY 101

The Major DIY Session not to be missed!

 

Register soon! Only 10 vacancies available!

 

Date: 27 September Sunday

Time: 0900-2300hrs

Venue: Block 21 Joo Seng Road Singapore 360021

 

Curriculum to be covered:

- Carburetor servicing

- Exhaust valve servicing

- Installation of KOSO Meter

- Installation of license plate bracket

- Replacement of front cowl bracket

- Replacement of carburetor flange

- Replacement of carburetor intake manifold

- Replacement of VHSB carburetor gaskets

- Replacement of ignition cover

- Replacement of reed valves

- Replacement of fuel hoses

- Replacement of front and rear mudguards

- Replacement of chain guard

- Replacement of heel plates

- Replacement of brake springs

- Replacement of brake pads

- Installation of throttle cable elbow

- Installation of fuel filters

- Installation of fuel connectors

- Installation of oil supply hoses

- Installation of oil tank filter kit

- Installation of swivel gear lever

 

As this is a major DIY session, I do expect everyone to bring their own rags, solvents, steel brushes and tools. Also note that as it is a DIY session, I will advise you on your workmanship, but I will refrain from assisting you to avoid liabilities. If you make me work on your bike, I will charge you labour fees.

 

If you wish to be provided equipment (so that you don't have to pack them over), please feel free to make a S$35 donation which will ensure you have rags, cleaning solvents, brushes and necessary tools.

If you bring your own equipment, DIY is free!

 

Please confirm attendance below, followed by 'YES' if you want to be provided with cleaning equipment (rags, solvents, brushes, tools) so that I can go purchase extra kits (you get to keep your own equipment after the session):

 

1. lacrimosae/YES

2. Joy

3. Sub Zero

4. tknge

5. Patrick

6. schwein.bissen

7. IZECUBEZ

8. shadantou

9. Khai

10. pRiLLer07

 

The rest all Mommy's boys not keen on getting their hands dirty? How bout those newbies who love to claim they want to learn more about the bike? :lol

 

 

hello, will it be okay if i come down? and i would like to make the $35 donation. is it possible as i didnt make the 10?

[insaint]

hello, will it be okay if i come down? and i would like to make the $35 donation. is it possible as i didnt make the 10?

 

donation???? hahahaha check MR LAW sure can one right mate.. Drinks all on your tab haha

[bapecraze]

hi guys. im riding 07' aprilia but recetnly seems to have problems with it.

 

First of all.

 

when high reving. ard 7-8rpm the pipe will sound very very loud n if i were to throttle more, the bike will sometimes lose speed. not much drop in rpm but can feel the power lost. but sometimes it flies really fast.

 

exhast loose?? guide me pls. haas.

 

anyway this dun happen all the time but bike is still under warranty n i wanna get things fixed asap. loL.

 

secondly gear seems really hard to kick up or down. esp. when the bike is hot.

clutch plate seem to be damaged or something.. is it due to crappy engine oil the shop gave me?? it's half syn btw.

 

wad engine oil or gear oil do u guys usually use? i would love to make it as smooth as possible.

 

im noob in all this technical things although i've been riding for so long. (i dun even know wad a value or block look like.) LoLs. haven got time to have my hands on my bike.

 

please guide me thru. thanks.

[ragnaphobia]

Running in doesnt mean must relax2.. if your bike hardly hit 80 90. got problem liao.

just imagine. 1st gear barely hit 20.. 2nd gear barely hit 30. 4th - 6th - 10th - 100th gear barely hit 70km/h

 

u check everything from carb to valve seems ok. test. still the same. neutral.. blow abit here and there.. rpm refuse to hit 12. confirm CDI powercut.

 

N O O B ! *chik chik! BANG! BANG! KEBABOOOM!!!!*

- for all the so call "read manual people". use for freaking brain for god sake. Manual Doesnt stated all abt e bike. what they put in. built from what. the ah ma make the frame using plastic/metal/rubber, the ah pa make the tire using what kind of rubber etc. the ah kor install this CDI inside blablablabla....

 

anyway. for the newest RS. need to change CDI. juz for the info.

thats y the bike like **** up abit hardly hit 80 90.

 

 

 

 

 

- to *EHEM!!!!*. "I'm still waiting for my cookies!" =x

 

sorry la bro, i dont know how to use my brain. but i know how to READ the manual. if u really do read the manual, there are instructions on how to run in your bike. which RPM range to which mileage. and Yes, i do agree with you that they dont tell me what material ah pa used to make their stock tyres. At least you got that right.

 

and usually during run in, you bike will sure feel abit sluggish. its something you gotta cope with until you hit the right mileage.

 

and fyi, certain rs 125 models are unable to hit the 12k RPM mark as they have their stock exhaust and possible restricted CDI. if you change the exhaust, you might be able to hit 12k RPM.

 

Only RS 125 '09 and above have the piaggio CDI which you will need to remove/change before being able to experience the full power of the bike.

[Sub Zero]

hi guys. im riding 07' aprilia but recetnly seems to have problems with it.

 

First of all.

 

when high reving. ard 7-8rpm the pipe will sound very very loud n if i were to throttle more, the bike will sometimes lose speed. not much drop in rpm but can feel the power lost. but sometimes it flies really fast.

 

exhast loose?? guide me pls. haas.

 

anyway this dun happen all the time but bike is still under warranty n i wanna get things fixed asap. loL.

 

secondly gear seems really hard to kick up or down. esp. when the bike is hot.

clutch plate seem to be damaged or something.. is it due to crappy engine oil the shop gave me?? it's half syn btw.

 

wad engine oil or gear oil do u guys usually use? i would love to make it as smooth as possible.

 

im noob in all this technical things although i've been riding for so long. (i dun even know wad a value or block look like.) LoLs. haven got time to have my hands on my bike.

 

please guide me thru. thanks.

 

Best thing is to come for a meetup and get one of us to check out your bike. Which wonderful shop you bought from?

[bapecraze]

Best thing is to come for a meetup and get one of us to check out your bike. Which wonderful shop you bought from?

 

leong seng. bukit merah.

 

when is the soonest meet up?? mine working hours make it kinda hard to meet anyone up. loL. i end work only at 10pm. sometimes OT..

 

Been following this thread everyday since i got my bike. soonest meet up session is the major DIY ?? too early for me. loL..

[lacrimosae]

hello, will it be okay if i come down? and i would like to make the $35 donation. is it possible as i didnt make the 10?

 

Feel free to drop by. If the turn out is too large I might have to move the DIY to my nearby multistorey carpark.

 

As for the 35 bucks, it's payment upon collection.

 

hi guys. im riding 07' aprilia but recetnly seems to have problems with it.

 

First of all.

 

when high reving. ard 7-8rpm the pipe will sound very very loud n if i were to throttle more, the bike will sometimes lose speed. not much drop in rpm but can feel the power lost. but sometimes it flies really fast.

 

exhast loose?? guide me pls. haas.

 

Hard to figure this out based on your half-baked description. 7-8,000rpm isn't high rev, so its a little conflicting to say high rev and 7-8,000rpm in the same line. Assuming you mean your exhaust pitch changes at that rpm, it might just be the valve opening at 8,000rpm.

 

If power dips at 8,000rpm, like mine, it could mean the valve is opening too early. There isn't anything we can do about it. The valve CDI is opening the valve a little too early and the change in exhaust flow doesn't compensate till 8,500rpm.

 

When you say 'sometimes', what circumstances is it under? Under 1/4 or 1/2 or 3/4 or WOT (wide open throttle)? All have different implications.

 

What do you mean by 'flies really fast'? Do you mean a high rate of acceleration, or simply the bike can travel fast (again, subjective).

 

Can't know what's wrong until you are specific.

 

Could be loose exhaust pipe, loose spark plug, a power dip due to the imperfect ports (like my bike), or loose needle jet (hey, this happened to me before. same symptoms).

 

anyway this dun happen all the time but bike is still under warranty n i wanna get things fixed asap. loL.

 

Under warranty where? Actually, it doesn't matter because as long as you are sending your bike to a mechanic in Singapore, it's going to come back sh1tty anyway.

 

secondly gear seems really hard to kick up or down. esp. when the bike is hot.

clutch plate seem to be damaged or something.. is it due to crappy engine oil the shop gave me?? it's half syn btw.

 

wad engine oil or gear oil do u guys usually use? i would love to make it as smooth as possible.

 

im noob in all this technical things although i've been riding for so long. (i dun even know wad a value or block look like.) LoLs. haven got time to have my hands on my bike.

 

please guide me thru. thanks.

 

Could be loose cable, insufficient pressure on the pressure plate, or just bad or degraded gear oil. Bike shops usually use cheap gear oil. If they think they can get away with using cooking oil, they'll use that too.

 

We all want to help, but you need to help us help you.

 

leong seng. bukit merah.

 

when is the soonest meet up?? mine working hours make it kinda hard to meet anyone up. loL. i end work only at 10pm. sometimes OT..

 

Been following this thread everyday since i got my bike. soonest meet up session is the major DIY ?? too early for me. loL..

 

Too early as in too early in the day, or too early on the calendar? If you work all day on Sunday, and can't come for DIY, maybe you can arrange with someone to help you out after 10pm. If you mean its too soon, maybe can come for our Oct DIYs.

 

In the meantime, change your spark plug and gear oil to fully synthetic. I recommend Silkolene Maintain. Cheap and smooth and long-lasting.

[Luster]

eh lawrence.. u still here uh? how are u anyway?

i think u shld charge people for your lesson.. can get extra income leh.. 1 session 30$ =x

nw not riding RS.. now i ride motoboat.. wahahahahaha!! cya ard.

juz drop by to say hi to all.. nights!! sleep! work sleep work. become part of the system. ROBOT.

 

and to all malay riders HAPPY HARI RAYA. forgive me for all my sins etc.. cya ard! ride safe! may god bless all your soul and suffer in hell ! peace.

[Sub Zero]

leong seng. bukit merah.

 

when is the soonest meet up?? mine working hours make it kinda hard to meet anyone up. loL. i end work only at 10pm. sometimes OT..

 

Been following this thread everyday since i got my bike. soonest meet up session is the major DIY ?? too early for me. loL..

 

I end work at 8ish to 9 as well. We always have impromptu meetups at night after 10.

 

Buzz me, all the 'experts' will examine your bike. I'm not as good as lawrence, but maybe i can check it out for you, before you bring it to the Doctor of DIY!

 

93352445

[Sub Zero]

In the meantime, change your spark plug and gear oil to fully synthetic. I recommend Silkolene Maintain. Cheap and smooth and long-lasting.

 

Dude, Where to get the Sikolene and how much? Fully Syn?

 

Cheers

[bapecraze]

Feel free to drop by. If the turn out is too large I might have to move the DIY to my nearby multistorey carpark.

 

As for the 35 bucks, it's payment upon collection.

 

 

 

Hard to figure this out based on your half-baked description. 7-8,000rpm isn't high rev, so its a little conflicting to say high rev and 7-8,000rpm in the same line. Assuming you mean your exhaust pitch changes at that rpm, it might just be the valve opening at 8,000rpm.

 

(there a very very huge difference of pitch but not much power boost until like 10rpm. bike will only acc alot at rpm 10.)

 

If power dips at 8,000rpm, like mine, it could mean the valve is opening too early. There isn't anything we can do about it. The valve CDI is opening the valve a little too early and the change in exhaust flow doesn't compensate till 8,500rpm.

 

(totally nth we could do? not even trying to tune the bike to the desired set up?)

 

When you say 'sometimes', what circumstances is it under? Under 1/4 or 1/2 or 3/4 or WOT (wide open throttle)? All have different implications.

 

(sometimes i can acc smoothly till 10~11rpm without the pitch changing that much. but when the pitch suddenly change at 8rpm i know the bike isnt in the mood to run. Haas.)

What do you mean by 'flies really fast'? Do you mean a high rate of acceleration, or simply the bike can travel fast (again, subjective).

 

(sorry i meant hig rate of acc. power of the bike released.)

 

Can't know what's wrong until you are specific.

 

Could be loose exhaust pipe, loose spark plug, a power dip due to the imperfect ports (like my bike), or loose needle jet (hey, this happened to me before. same symptoms).

 

(was ur problem settled? or it could not be saved?)

 

Under warranty where? Actually, it doesn't matter because as long as you are sending your bike to a mechanic in Singapore, it's going to come back sh1tty anyway.

 

(haas. sounds true. but it's a small bike shop called leong seng with no famous tech for aprilia at bukit merah.)

 

Could be loose cable, insufficient pressure on the pressure plate, or just bad or degraded gear oil. Bike shops usually use cheap gear oil. If they think they can get away with using cooking oil, they'll use that too.

 

(sure. will get my gear oil changed asap. will let u guys know if problems can be resolved.)

We all want to help, but you need to help us help you.

 

 

 

Too early as in too early in the day, or too early on the calendar? If you work all day on Sunday, and can't come for DIY, maybe you can arrange with someone to help you out after 10pm. If you mean its too soon, maybe can come for our Oct DIYs.

 

(Well i work from 11am - 10pm at night 6 days a week. lols.)

 

In the meantime, change your spark plug and gear oil to fully synthetic. I recommend Silkolene Maintain. Cheap and smooth and long-lasting.

 

Anyway another important thing. my bike moves off even when fully clutched in at gear 1. it's as if i'm half clutching.

[bapecraze]

I end work at 8ish to 9 as well. We always have impromptu meetups at night after 10.

 

Buzz me, all the 'experts' will examine your bike. I'm not as good as lawrence, but maybe i can check it out for you, before you bring it to the Doctor of DIY!

 

93352445

 

i'm working 6 days a week from 11-10. will try to squeeze in time for diy-ing my bike.

 

at the mean time guess i'll change the gear oil to better ones n see if my bike runs smoother.

 

Thanks guys for help. will go change gear oil on friday n see if it runs better n smoother. will update u guys.

[lacrimosae]

eh lawrence.. u still here uh? how are u anyway?

i think u shld charge people for your lesson.. can get extra income leh.. 1 session 30$ =x

 

Actually I'm in Istanbul. Think I'm jet-lagged cos I'm sleepless here for a few days already, same as when I was in Dubai.

 

DIY is primarily for me to work on my bike. I only invite guests to join in in the hope that they learn something. Knowledge is power, and if it helps you save some money, or prevent you from getting ripped off, why not?

 

No point charging because I'm just sharing what I learnt from tuning and maintenance manuals bought off Amazon, information that is readily available for those who bother to look. But some people don't know where to start looking, so I just want to give them a head start.

 

We all need extra income but I believe sharing knowledge should be free. Only those who want to help themselves will come.

 

I'm not as good as lawrence, but maybe i can check it out for you, before you bring it to the Doctor of DIY!

 

What nonsense... We all started from zero and I'm still learning too. Anyway, you probably know as much I do regarding our bikes.

 

Dude, Where to get the Sikolene and how much? Fully Syn?

 

I bought direct from Silkolene. I think you can try bike shops that carry Silkolene products? Call Silkolene to check who their distributors are.

 

(there a very very huge difference of pitch but not much power boost until like 10rpm. bike will only acc alot at rpm 10.)

 

Honestly, I have no idea. Let me sleep on this. I'll try to figure it out.

 

(totally nth we could do? not even trying to tune the bike to the desired set up?)

 

Nothing can be done. The valve is electronically controlled by the RAVE unit CDI.

 

(sometimes i can acc smoothly till 10~11rpm without the pitch changing that much. but when the pitch suddenly change at 8rpm i know the bike isnt in the mood to run.)

 

This sounds like a random or intermittent problem, which clearly indicates that it cannot be caused by tuning, which will cause the same problem under the same conditions. If the problem arises occasionally and not all the time, it could be a loose part.

 

(was ur problem settled? or it could not be saved?)

 

On 3 different occasions, it was a loose exhaust, a loose spark plug, and a loose needle jet (circlip had broken off, so needle was happily changing its height as it pleased). But the symptoms of all 3 problems were the same- erratic power delivery.

 

Anyway another important thing. my bike moves off even when fully clutched in at gear 1. it's as if i'm half clutching.

 

Loose cable, damaged cable, poor or degraded gear oil.

 

i'm working 6 days a week from 11-10. will try to squeeze in time for diy-ing my bike.

 

at the mean time guess i'll change the gear oil to better ones n see if my bike runs smoother.

 

Also check the clutch cable to make sure it is not frayed or about to break. Tighten it slightly, about a quarter to half turn out.

 

Thanks guys for help. will go change gear oil on friday n see if it runs better n smoother. will update u guys.

 

Yes, please update us. Vik, maybe can try to help our friend here after hours? I used to have a 10am-11pm 7days/week job. I understand your pain. haha... I'll try to arrange for a late night DIY one of these days.

 

Cheers!

Edited September 16, 2009 by lacrimosae

[Luster]

Morning!!

lawrence.. yes i understand.. i mean like, u organize D.I.Y. people put their nick etc. in the end nvr turn up. i pity u leh.. so next time charge! LOL!

anyway, try to have some rest. cya ard.

 

bye~ everyone! work work work work work !

[IZECUBEZ]

i'm working 6 days a week from 11-10. will try to squeeze in time for diy-ing my bike.

 

I also work 6 days a week (including weekends) latest I get out is 10pm. Yet I still meet up with some of them to have some coffee and talk abt the bikes.

[macan_putih]

lawrence got bad news..

i have to perform 12 hours duty on DIY date.. darn man.

btw bapecraze its best to meet up and let e pros see ur bike.. as for me i m noob

[IZECUBEZ]

lawrence got bad news..

i have to perform 12 hours duty on DIY date.. darn man.

btw bapecraze its best to meet up and let e pros see ur bike.. as for me i m noob

 

YAH! YOU NOOB!!

[redx]

chill uh bros. how bout a meet up? tomorrow night. its been awhile.

[seraphx]

hi guys. im riding 07' aprilia but recetnly seems to have problems with it.

 

First of all.

 

when high reving. ard 7-8rpm the pipe will sound very very loud n if i were to throttle more, the bike will sometimes lose speed. not much drop in rpm but can feel the power lost. but sometimes it flies really fast.

 

exhast loose?? guide me pls. haas.

 

anyway this dun happen all the time but bike is still under warranty n i wanna get things fixed asap. loL.

 

secondly gear seems really hard to kick up or down. esp. when the bike is hot.

clutch plate seem to be damaged or something.. is it due to crappy engine oil the shop gave me?? it's half syn btw.

 

wad engine oil or gear oil do u guys usually use? i would love to make it as smooth as possible.

 

im noob in all this technical things although i've been riding for so long. (i dun even know wad a value or block look like.) LoLs. haven got time to have my hands on my bike.

 

please guide me thru. thanks.

 

Hi there,

 

a few things you might want to check out on your bike and get back to us.

 

If you feel a power loss around the 7-8krpm mark, you could be experiencing a stuck valve if the power delivery comes in around 10krpm. Wash your valve and see if it helps. If it's just a little bogging in that range, it could be that the valve is opening a little early.

 

Our bikes require lots of TLC (Tender Loving Care for those who don't know). Use fully synthetic gear oil if possible. At the same time, your clutch could still be engaged even when you fully pull the clutch lever. This could be due to the lever itself, the cable, or the way the clutch was assembled at factory. This can be adjusted and should be adjusted. If your bike moves off when fully clutched in on 1st gear, this is most likely your problem.

 

Do check these 2 main issues out and let us know if it helps.

[schwein.bissen]

Under warranty where? Actually, it doesn't matter because as long as you are sending your bike to a mechanic in Singapore, it's going to come back sh1tty anyway.

Hmm true, although it's quite subjective ...

 

Earlier a mech at some bike shop passed me a customer's GPS charger (cigarette lighter socket type), and asked me if he could cut the wire and just connect it to a new cigg plug ... Man the purpose of that charger is to step it down to 5 volts - stopped a potential disaster of an exploding Garmin Nuvi.

 

Well so far I haven't heard of any "Aprilia Specialists" or "Carb Profile Specialists" in Singapore ... Some just ramp it, turn the air screw - "IT'S SET!!!", while others just change the main/pilot jets and just won't bother with replacing the needle or slide

 

So now I've got a prob with 0 to ¼ throttle ... In this range, engine is very likely to die when moving off or going slow - cos there's too much fuel going in

 

Have encountered so many mechs who dun make full use of this

 

http://www.carbparts.com/keihin/needles_tuning/calchart.gif

[macan_putih]

YAH! YOU NOOB!!

 

thks for e pointer..

i would love to hear from e pros onhow to handle and diy my bike

[priller07]

ahhahahah ur friend x1 coverset nice.

 

 

I'll inform him that the next time i see him. Last night he was there also. Haha!! Glad u liked his coverset then.