SBF Silverwings / HOM Cafe 2012

[Uncle]

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Looked very nice, honda integra NC700, wonder can put onto SW?? I think many Honda bikes uses same 240mm rear rotor.E.g CB400,SW400

 

Won't be able to see much if put on SW rear, so don't bother unless it improves braking.

[hachi]

New clutch pad is 3mm thick; service limit is 1mm. Mine still have 2mm+ at 29kkm. So very lasting.

BTW will rollers wear off??? It seem like I got lousy pick up...

[Uncle]

BTW will rollers wear off??? It seem like I got lousy pick up...

 

Yes, rollers will wear but usu you get better pickup but lower top speed as they wear. This is because there is less weight and outer diameter to push the variator plate out, so bike stays in lower gear more.

 

Wear is measured by outer diameter of roller and "roundness" of roller. Take note no grease or lube should be applied to rollers or housing. Any grease may get on belt and cause belt slip. But grease should be applied to inner side of the big metal roller "this is called the BOSS in manual" holding the plates and the threads of the 17mm screw securing the plates.

[MaIkEr]

back already! reached gp esso at 1745, followed by durian feast. ALONE! looks like I is the lost kid!!!:screwy:

[SW9000]

Yogi and me went Bukit Indah shopping.

Didn"t see confusehaha. Probably lost somewhere in JB.

 

Made a short stop at Machap Shell. Dozing off... so go washy face.

 

But really, the Ron 95 sux for high speed.

I was struggling with 130km/h from Tangkak after the top up. Slow response, less torque and more vibration.

[SW9000]

Reminder:

 

Anyone interested in the Betong tag-along please book your own room at Genting 1st World Hotel (11 Aug 12). Current price is rm148 without breakfast. You may find another buddy to share (not me).

 

Do let me know early so I may reserve the rooms at Betong Modern Thai Hotel.

Payment can be much later.

Pilots no need to apply.

[paithorn]

Reminder:

 

Anyone interested in the Betong tag-along please book your own room at Genting 1st World Hotel (11 Aug 12). Current price is rm148 without breakfast. You may find another buddy to share (not me).

 

Do let me know early so I may reserve the rooms at Betong Modern Thai Hotel.

Payment can be much later.

Pilots no need to apply.

 

wah seh...single rider chiong betong ah???

[Atlantic 200]

Reminder:

 

Anyone interested in the Betong tag-along please book your own room at Genting 1st World Hotel (11 Aug 12). Current price is rm148 without breakfast. You may find another buddy to share (not me).

 

Do let me know early so I may reserve the rooms at Betong Modern Thai Hotel.

Payment can be much later.

Pilots no need to apply.

 

Me going, 1 room please .....

 

Genting Hotel booked ....

Edited May 26, 2012 by Atlantic 200

[confusehaha]

Yogi and me went Bukit Indah shopping.

Didn"t see confusehaha. Probably lost somewhere in JB.

 

Made a short stop at Machap Shell. Dozing off... so go washy face.

 

But really, the Ron 95 sux for high speed.

I was struggling with 130km/h from Tangkak after the top up. Slow response, less torque and more vibration.

Haha I'm back too! Missed the exit to tuas hence end up in jb.. In the end decide to go sutera with my gf for dinner..

Yep, I also think so.. Hence I insisted on 97 but unfortunately they dun have

As I personally experienced before that their petrol is lousier than sin petrol so minimum I go for 97 in malaysia..

Ron 97 petronas / sin caltex 95 suits my bike most de!

Damn smooth and gd mileage!

[confusehaha]

back already! reached gp esso at 1745, followed by durian feast. ALONE! looks like I is the lost kid!!!:screwy:

Lol, where did u went for the durian feast?

Shld jio me as I craving for it oso

[confusehaha]

BTW will rollers wear off??? It seem like I got lousy pick up...

Haha, I suspect is the variator plates that are wearing off instead

[Fusionjaz]

back already! reached gp esso at 1745, followed by durian feast. ALONE! looks like I is the lost kid!!!:screwy:

 

Wah I miss the durian feast!!!

[MaIkEr]

Yogi and me went Bukit Indah shopping.

Didn"t see confusehaha. Probably lost somewhere in JB.

 

Made a short stop at Machap Shell. Dozing off... so go washy face.

 

But really, the Ron 95 sux for high speed.

I was struggling with 130km/h from Tangkak after the top up. Slow response, less torque and more vibration.

 

Ron 95 ok leh. was hitting between 130-140kmh constant to play catch.

 

 

Lol, where did u went for the durian feast?

Shld jio me as I craving for it oso

 

 

gp esso lor. ate 1 there. tapao 9. smoke 2 sticks. hoping to see you guys.

 

 

Wah I miss the durian feast!!!

 

very nice but ex. 1kg 23rm. small seeds. but lost to combat slightly. wat time you reached gp? so what happ to julien?

[scoobydoo]

the issue of using sliding rollers have been discussed many times, some users feedback that they experienced premature wear on the variator ramps.

TH's reply was to replace multivar regularly.

do a search n you'll find, ask ah choong also can, unless he changed his mind about that product

[Uncle]

the issue of using sliding rollers have been discussed many times, some users feedback that they experienced premature wear on the variator ramps.

TH's reply was to replace multivar regularly.

do a search n you'll find, ask ah choong also can, unless he changed his mind about that product

 

Can only tell whether that is true or not in 30kkm or 3 years time

 

As with all parts that wear and tear, a lot depends on the maintenance regime. But fact that we are not the 1st party in such reports, we won't know how the bile has been maintained or use. Eg, car's ATF recommended change is 40kkm or 2 years, whichever is earlier. So supposedly someone runs 80kkm before change and after that finds that the gearbox is noisy cos the gears have worn. All the while before change, it's fine cos the ATF has thickened to "lessen the gear gap". Is that a product issue or user fault?

 

So far, the few SW owners we know maintain their bikes pretty well, so such issues may not plague us

 

The 2nd reason I can think of is improper installation. You've serviced your SW transmission many times. Have you seen the mechanic putting grease on the inside of the boss? I've not. Have you seen mechanic putting grease on the rollers? I have. Have you seen mechanic tightening the nut to 103NM torque on the nut? I've not. I would think these are not intentional but simply due to lack of official information at hand.

 

IMO, the main cause of variator wear is belt slip. When belt slips, it generates excess heat and the friction wears the variator. Rollers only push the variator on the other side, so logically, how can it wear the variator? But I may be wrong; just applying logical thinking.

 

Of course TH asks customers to replace multivar when it wears as it contributes to their revenue. What else can they recommend.

Edited May 27, 2012 by Uncle

[Fusionjaz]

Nanyang kopitiam breakfast

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Tangkar Beef Noodle for lunch

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[Uncle]

Do you use petrol to clean the transmission? Yes, as it's readily available. But do you know it's corrosive? I stupidly did that sometime back and the skin on the hands was flaking for a few days. Think of the harm it does on those bearing seals, rollers, shaft, etc. Now I use methylated spirit. Cost the same as petrol but you need to buy it before servicing.

 

Ignore the Tsingtao label

 

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[Fusionjaz]

Do you use petrol to clean the transmission? Yes, as it's readily available. But do you know it's corrosive? I stupidly did that sometime back and the skin on the hands was flaking for a few days. Think of the harm it does on those bearing seals, rollers, shaft, etc. Now I use methylated spirit. Cost the same as petrol but you need to buy it before servicing.

 

Ignore the Tsingtao label

 

http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u382/raymondsg/Silverwing/Lubricants/3a7d3d6a.jpg

 

How do you know it is corrosive...? Is it because your skins on the hands started flaking?

[Uncle]

How do you know it is corrosive...? Is it because your skins on the hands started flaking?

 

Ya lor, smooth soft skin became old man's skin. No issue with spirit.

[hachi]

Uncle,

You also use car oil for final transmission oil? Cos I asked my friend to buy a 5l fully syn car oil.

[confusehaha]

Uncle,

You also use car oil for final transmission oil? Cos I asked my friend to buy a 5l fully syn car oil.

uncle is using motul 7100 for his final tranmission.

[Fusionjaz]

Ya lor, smooth soft skin became old man's skin. No issue with spirit.

 

Oic... Should apply more moisturizer.

[confusehaha]

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[confusehaha]

anyone here been to durian/fruits planation in johor before?

tot of going but not sure the exact location so craving for durian now!!!

http://shiokhochiak.blogspot.com/2008/08/durians-kampung-teratai-off-segamat.html

anyone keen to organise a durian feast trip? LOL

[Uncle]

Uncle,

You also use car oil for final transmission oil? Cos I asked my friend to buy a 5l fully syn car oil.

 

uncle is using motul 7100 for his final tranmission.

 

Yup.

So far, final drive oil has been Motul 7100 10W-40 changed every 10kkm due to leftovers from previous servicing. Oil looks like brand new after drained out for the last 2 changes. The Carlube 5W-40 is API SN; even better than Mobil, Shell or Castol at API SM. I will use them on the final drive the next time.