Any 2A bike suitable for very short girl?

[qwerty07]

does anybody know which 2A bikes can zng until low low? i'm only 1.5m, 40kg n can't seem to find any 2A bike tat i can handle. height n weight issues.

 

any suggestions? thanks...

[KeraKing]

change to 14" rims?

[Paladin]

does anybody know which 2A bikes can zng until low low? i'm only 1.5m, 40kg n can't seem to find any 2A bike tat i can handle. height n weight issues.

 

any suggestions? thanks...

 

Honda Shadow and Steed.... Cruisers for you?

 

Weight issue wise... the larger the engine the heavier it gets... generally.

[swat_]

well if u can pass ur 2A, i bet u can handle any 2A bike isnt it? i've seen petite gals on massive rides too

 

unless u wanna consider 2A scooters such as foresight, forza etc

[swiftee]

if the bike is lightweight enough... you might be able to ride a taller bike... can consider the yamaha tricker 250... its a very light bike so you can probably lean it over at traffic lights and right it more easily...

 

other than that... maybe scooters or cruisers for low seat height lor....

 

weight is actually less of an issue... with skill any rider can handle a heavy bike, so long as the bike's weight is balanced.

 

any 150cm-tall riders can advise TS regarding bike height issues?

Edited July 8, 2009 by swiftee

[qwerty07]

Hi, thanks for all the suggestions..

 

I'm done with 2A lessons, now waiting for TP. but with great difficulty handling the super 4. riding is not much of an issue. it's the pushing n all, and need a lot of control when stopping. handle bar must be totally straight. cos if the weight shifts a tiny bit to the side, i wun have enough leverage n strength to straighten it back n will drop it. and cos the tank is big, if need to u-turn, my arm will be full stretched. haiz.. woes of a very short person.

 

Yamaha tricker 250 is high. 790mm seat ht, i can't even 1 leg tip toe. unless it can be significantly lowered. but i understand some bikes can't lower much as it will affect bike's stability. i dun wan cruisers. look like ah pek bike.. hee...

 

so i'm wondering if anybody knows of any lightweight road/sport bike tat can be lowered a lot. or even scrams tat can be zng-ed low low. haa...

[kittosoft]

xt250, ninja250

[crazydj]

While all of you are looking for a smaller 2A bike, i am looking for a massive 2B bike! Haha! Anyway, the Ninja 250 is a sweet bike. If i were a girl, i would go for it. Not too over kill, guys will go Gaga over you and those who dont know about bikes will think that you are super cool. The seating position also not so much like sports bike. Between street and sports. Sweet. Then get a pink Ninja250. With pink rims. And a pink helmet. Okay. Enough of me talking about "if i were a girl". Good luck!

 

EDIT: I find that my YBR is already too heavy for me to push. I am 1.82m and 80 kg. Am i weak?

[hachi]

does anybody know which 2A bikes can zng until low low? i'm only 1.5m, 40kg n can't seem to find any 2A bike tat i can handle. height n weight issues.

 

any suggestions? thanks...

How you passed? On Super 4 or XJR or YBR 250??

How do you find them? If you can pass the TP with them...Then u can handle them...

Hmm the little ninja is wise choice too...Just get the sick green color..

[Paladin]

Hi, thanks for all the suggestions..

 

I'm done with 2A lessons, now waiting for TP. but with great difficulty handling the super 4. riding is not much of an issue. it's the pushing n all, and need a lot of control when stopping. handle bar must be totally straight. cos if the weight shifts a tiny bit to the side, i wun have enough leverage n strength to straighten it back n will drop it. and cos the tank is big, if need to u-turn, my arm will be full stretched. haiz.. woes of a very short person.

 

Yamaha tricker 250 is high. 790mm seat ht, i can't even 1 leg tip toe. unless it can be significantly lowered. but i understand some bikes can't lower much as it will affect bike's stability. i dun wan cruisers. look like ah pek bike.. hee...

 

so i'm wondering if anybody knows of any lightweight road/sport bike tat can be lowered a lot. or even scrams tat can be zng-ed low low. haa...

 

Cruisers are as low as you can get.... and i believe ah peks are in their own league, cuz they don't bother to wash bikes and made them look sick.

 

Sports all are rather high and don't even need to mention scrams... You can't zng low low as either the wheel gets smaller or you shortern the shocks travel length. Both will spoil the looks and handling.

 

i juz thought of a bike that has a rather low seat height in stock. That would be the suzuki GSR 400. Its has the lowest seat height of all naked bikes i've seen so far. sporty enough... powerful enough... fast enough... and lighter thn cruisers. what other kind of bike can give you such combi?

[swiftee]

Hi, thanks for all the suggestions..

 

I'm done with 2A lessons, now waiting for TP. but with great difficulty handling the super 4. riding is not much of an issue. it's the pushing n all, and need a lot of control when stopping. handle bar must be totally straight. cos if the weight shifts a tiny bit to the side, i wun have enough leverage n strength to straighten it back n will drop it. and cos the tank is big, if need to u-turn, my arm will be full stretched. haiz.. woes of a very short person.

 

so i'm wondering if anybody knows of any lightweight road/sport bike tat can be lowered a lot. or even scrams tat can be zng-ed low low. haa...

 

i waiting for tp too... where you taking lessons?

 

drz and xr4 are very very tall... maybe you might have some luck with the 250 scrams... motard the scram can shorten it a bit... also can play with suspension... cut seat...

can try the ninja 250 too if you're interested...

 

but actually, if you're riding a tall bike you will find you won't be pushing it that often... most of the time you will be making use of the clutch to roll it around, and only get down and push when you need to move it backwards, worst come to worst use the front suspension to bounce backwards (but a bit slow la).

light bike would be good cause you can lean it more without dropping it... like maybe xt250

 

just curious, what bikes have you ridden for 2b?

[vespaboy]

I would say - why not try the VESPA GTS250 or 300. Easy to ride with low CG

[MrHui]

Get some lighter bikes, 250cc? and cut the seats and it'll become slightly shorter.

[jtzx]

i would suggest cruisers for you.. quite comfortable and low seating too

[guwakzai]

i suggest u stick to 2b bikes like KSR , cubs will be good.

[Constructicon]

I tink TP test and everyday riding are a bit different.

 

Small sized rider on a big sized bike.

Yes, yes...of course we can say it's just a matter if getting used to.

But little, everyday things like pushing, reversing the bike into a bike slot in the rain is no fun, especially when the leg are tiptoeing on 1 side.

200kg of bike, fuel and rider resting on that tiptoe on the wet floor.

 

Or e-brake? Coming to a sudden stop and all the weight rest on that tiptoe again. Real life brakes/ ebrakes does not give you any prior warning.

 

No point in getting something that looks nice on a straight line but leave you cursing and swearing at traffic lights/ carparks...etc.

[qwerty07]

cradyjd-> ok pardon me, but i think u r weak. my bike's 117kg n i still can manage to push it ard. u, a hunk @1.82m!!! somemore wanna find a massive 2B bike while u r complaining your current bike is hard to push? haha..

 

hachi-> i haven't pass. waiting for TP on the super 4. but i always drop the bike! so i'm at high risk of immediate failure. :S

 

swiftee-> i'm taking at BBDC. u? i rode yamaha fino for a while, but now riding this weird suzuki vanvan. cut the seat a bit n still on 1 leg tiptoe lor.

 

vespaboy-> vespas' seats are all v high for me. i can't even tiptoe. unless, i get off the seat and stand when the bike stops. haa. i'm short with short limbs.

[qwerty07]

wah.... u really really spelt out all my woes... and if the road is like a gradual slope of even 5degree gradient, i can't even push the bike even if i'm off it lor.

 

are u also a small rider? cos only small riders will understand these "non existent issues".

 

I tink TP test and everyday riding are a bit different.

 

Small sized rider on a big sized bike.

Yes, yes...of course we can say it's just a matter if getting used to.

But little, everyday things like pushing, reversing the bike into a bike slot in the rain is no fun, especially when the leg are tiptoeing on 1 side.

200kg of bike, fuel and rider resting on that tiptoe on the wet floor.

 

Or e-brake? Coming to a sudden stop and all the weight rest on that tiptoe again. Real life brakes/ ebrakes does not give you any prior warning.

 

No point in getting something that looks nice on a straight line but leave you cursing and swearing at traffic lights/ carparks...etc.

[Constructicon]

cradyjd-> ok pardon me, but i think u r weak. my bike's 117kg n i still can manage to push it ard. u, a hunk @1.82m!!! somemore wanna find a massive 2B bike while u r complaining your current bike is hard to push? haha..

 

hachi-> i haven't pass. waiting for TP on the super 4. but i always drop the bike! so i'm at high risk of immediate failure. :S

 

 

swiftee-> i'm taking at BBDC. u? i rode yamaha fino for a while, but now riding this weird suzuki vanvan. cut the seat a bit n still on 1 leg tiptoe lor.

 

vespaboy-> vespas' seats are all v high for me. i can't even tiptoe. unless, i get off the seat and stand when the bike stops. haa. i'm short with short limbs.

 

TP Test) The TP is already last step to your 2A license. Even if take 10 times, also must endure. Its the last step already. Gd luck to u!

 

Seat Height) You can actually do something like cutting the seat profile to make it lower. And also, adjusting the suspension setting, though it will affect the ride somewhat.

 

wah.... u really really spelt out all my woes... and if the road is like a gradual slope of even 5degree gradient, i can't even push the bike even if i'm off it lor.

 

are u also a small rider? cos only small riders will understand these "non existent issues".

 

Not really. I am around 1.75m and ride a Fazer, thought the Fazer is not a huge bike, unlike something like the BMW GS1200

Even so, I avoid bikes which are too tall/ big for me. Just a personal choice which I am happy to stick with.

 

One lasting memory i had was at the driving centre. This lady rider/ learner drop her bike and was unable to pick it up. Some people went to help her.

Gender/strength issue, I leave it aside.

But suppose it happened on the road/ carpark, is she going to wait for someone to pass by and hopefully help?

 

So....I think it is important to get what a rider can handle, not what others think she/he can handle.

Owning and chooosing a bike is all about those small, small, everyday issues, I think.

 

Have a pleasant ride/ day.

[Baphomet]

if second hand bike is ok with you can get the RVF or CBR400RR lor. But imo...super 4 is the easiest to monuveure in Class 2A..

[swiftee]

double post

Edited July 9, 2009 by swiftee

[swiftee]

I tink TP test and everyday riding are a bit different.

 

Small sized rider on a big sized bike.

Yes, yes...of course we can say it's just a matter if getting used to.

But little, everyday things like pushing, reversing the bike into a bike slot in the rain is no fun, especially when the leg are tiptoeing on 1 side.

200kg of bike, fuel and rider resting on that tiptoe on the wet floor.

 

Or e-brake? Coming to a sudden stop and all the weight rest on that tiptoe again. Real life brakes/ ebrakes does not give you any prior warning.

 

No point in getting something that looks nice on a straight line but leave you cursing and swearing at traffic lights/ carparks...etc.

 

wa haha... if that is the case... i will be riding cub... and cub... and cub forever.

imagine you can only ride cub forever... the feeling is not good right.

 

that's why we get down and push when reversing the bike, and not just pedal it around. it's not as inconvenient as it seems.

anyway about the ebrake part short rider can also make an effort to train up the leg muscles and sense of balancing and keep cool when ebrake don't try to use leg to stop the bike (cause it wont work)

i mean in driving centre you only can bring the leg down after the bike stop right... then in that case shouldnt it be like normal stopping...

 

dropping bike is not as common as it seems la... most of the time when drop bike means accident and injured already...

 

short and small rider here

i at ssdc... good luck for u tp ya...

btw there are small sized instructors at ssdc too and they can handle the bikes beautifully

[nightsteed]

Let's take a look at the few suggested bikes...

 

Ninja250R (08)

Seat Height: 77.5cm

Dry Weight: 154kg

 

CBR400RR

Seat Height: 75cm

Dry Weight: 163kg

 

Super 4 (07)

Seat Height: 75.5cm

Dry Weight: 170kg

 

Taking into account of the recommended limit whereby suspension height can be safely lowered without drastically affecting the handling (click here for example), the lowest seat height that can be adjusted among the three is still around 71.5cm on the babyblade. Even with platform shoes (not recommended~! how to kick gears?) it might be alittle bit of a problem.

 

Out of the three suggestions, I would think S4 is the more likely candidate despite the higher dry weight. Notice the seats of most sportsbike are already very flat, ie, there isn't much cushion to shave off even if you tried. Comparatively, S4's seat can be creatively shaved and cut to your liking, probably lowering the ride further by another cm or two without making you feel you are seating on bare plastic.

 

Besides suggesting models, you might want to look at the newer bikes with ABS. It will not help you reach the ground , but it will greatly reduce the risk of "sudden relapse of stupidity" that affect us once in a while when we jam brakes without thinking. Thus reducing the chance of us having to experience the "second relapse of stupidity" that could follow... which is the urge to put the legs down and frantically try to regain stability.

 

Good luck for your TP. It's rather hard to fail unless you get immediate failure. Especially at BBDC (well, they even passed me afterall...).

[qwerty07]

Let's take a look at the few suggested bikes...

 

Ninja250R (08)

Seat Height: 77.5cm

Dry Weight: 154kg

 

CBR400RR

Seat Height: 75cm

Dry Weight: 163kg

 

Super 4 (07)

Seat Height: 75.5cm

Dry Weight: 170kg

 

Taking into account of the recommended limit whereby suspension height can be safely lowered without drastically affecting the handling (click here for example), the lowest seat height that can be adjusted among the three is still around 71.5cm on the babyblade. Even with platform shoes (not recommended~! how to kick gears?) it might be alittle bit of a problem.

 

Out of the three suggestions, I would think S4 is the more likely candidate despite the higher dry weight. Notice the seats of most sportsbike are already very flat, ie, there isn't much cushion to shave off even if you tried. Comparatively, S4's seat can be creatively shaved and cut to your liking, probably lowering the ride further by another cm or two without making you feel you are seating on bare plastic.

 

Besides suggesting models, you might want to look at the newer bikes with ABS. It will not help you reach the ground , but it will greatly reduce the risk of "sudden relapse of stupidity" that affect us once in a while when we jam brakes without thinking. Thus reducing the chance of us having to experience the "second relapse of stupidity" that could follow... which is the urge to put the legs down and frantically try to regain stability.

 

Good luck for your TP. It's rather hard to fail unless you get immediate failure. Especially at BBDC (well, they even passed me afterall...).

 

wow, it took u so many yrs before u decide to upgrade to a class 2A? hee...

btw, thanks a lot for the link. it's very informative although i dun really understnd everything. i think the 2005 Ninja 250R might be suitable for me. cos it's seat ht is 744mm according to the website. i just hope the tank is not too long for me to be able to reach the handle bars comfortably.

 

i got phobia of the S4 liao. haa. it's really very heavy for me to handle. at BBDC during test, need to push the bike up the small slope after test. if i drop the bike while doing it, even how well i ride during test also considered immediate failure. :S seat also v wide, so even at 755mm, i need to "shift my butt" a lot in order to 1 leg tiptoe. but riding it is damn cool! too bad it's only in circuit, can't go any fast. heh.

[qwerty07]

thanks everyone for your invaluable suggestions. i appreciate very much. now i got another question. any recommendation for a reliable n knowledgable mechanic who is good at lowering bikes and wun "kotok" a char bor? haa.