[Group] Super Four Non-VTEC Family: PB1 VerR & VerS

[tim17]

wah piang...... ah-pek... sometimes is not the server busy problem... sometime is PEBKAC

 

btw!! i finally can go for my class2.. HEHE wondering should i stay with my verS or buy R1??

 

after changing my coolant to ICE... wow!!! my engine now more gentle... hardly hear my engine roaring on highway

[trial-sin]

hi guys.. got a qn to ask.. sorrie if it sounds stupid.. was just wonderin.. is it possible to fit a spec 3 tail on a ver s..? thx..!

[hahamen]

Waht so great and good about Vtech?..asked your friends to tell all about here leh. Ah Pek like to learn. I would have bough a REVO if it was not a vtech.

 

hi im new here, but i've been setting my sights on the super4...

well, wud like to ask qn...

 

since u ask whats so good about vtech, may i ask what abt vtech that is not favourable that makes u not wanting to get a vtech??

 

no offense, or sorry if i sound rude... but this mite give me a solid reason in choosing version s over spec III or revo...

[Ah Pek]

hi im new here, but i've been setting my sights on the super4...

well, wud like to ask qn...

 

since u ask whats so good about vtech, may i ask what abt vtech that is not favourable that makes u not wanting to get a vtech??

 

no offense, or sorry if i sound rude... but this mite give me a solid reason in choosing version s over spec III or revo...

 

You still don't get my hint..like I said, if Revo was non Vtech, I would have settled for one.

 

Anyway..no offence one lah..too long too type, you free come over Teck Ghee Square Blk 409 when we have Ko_Pee_talk. Tell you all about it. There are ppl here who oso I have spoken too and knows what I meant. Anyway...next time when you said someone said something is good, support your claimor theirs..and don't answer a question with a question...I hate it!

[deviLLian]

hi im new here, but i've been setting my sights on the super4...

well, wud like to ask qn...

 

since u ask whats so good about vtech, may i ask what abt vtech that is not favourable that makes u not wanting to get a vtech??

 

no offense, or sorry if i sound rude... but this mite give me a solid reason in choosing version s over spec III or revo...

 

so wats it gonna be? audience, u may cast ya votes now... vrooom vrooom....

[Ah Pek]

so wats it gonna be? audience, u may cast ya votes now... vrooom vrooom....

 

It would not be fair to hahamen lah...this is a non vtech thread...should go to the thread that is "Which S4 is better" in the forum here. I did pose a question to those who favour Vtec..but never got an answer. Looks like its more of popularity choice vote as all newer owners having vtech bikes.....sighhh.

[hachi]

hi im new here, but i've been setting my sights on the super4...

well, wud like to ask qn...

 

since u ask whats so good about vtech, may i ask what abt vtech that is not favourable that makes u not wanting to get a vtech??

 

no offense, or sorry if i sound rude... but this mite give me a solid reason in choosing version s over spec III or revo...

 

The so called Vtec on S4 are just 8 to 16 valves transition...

Own both....Well the power surge is there when changing to 16V at certain rpm.

First the Vtec doesnt increase bhp..Still the same 53bhp.

And most Vtec owner said that Vtec power....I cannot undersatnd why Vtec is more powerful when both have the same BHP??????

Second the only thing it increases is fuel consumption.

My Ver S clocked 26km/l at best

My Spec 2 clocked 21km/l at best

Unlike car vtec that have a high speed cam that transit higher cam lift at high rpm...increases bhp....

IMO S4 Vtec is BS.....outlook wise..other story...

[Ah Pek]

The so called Vtec on S4 are just 8 to 16 valves transition...

Own both....Well the power surge is there when changing to 16V at certain rpm.

First the Vtec doesnt increase bhp..Still the same 53bhp.

And most Vtec owner said that Vtec power....I cannot undersatnd why Vtec is more powerful when both have the same BHP??????

Second the only thing it increases is fuel consumption.

My Ver S clocked 26km/l at best

My Spec 2 clocked 21km/l at best

Unlike car vtec that have a high speed cam that transit higher cam lift at high rpm...increases bhp....

IMO S4 Vtec is BS.....outlook wise..other story...

 

You can try stepping down to 42 teeth from 44 for your back sporcket. The sacrifice is that pick up is not as torque unless it take gradual fast move off as an advantage and for better fc (hopefully). Somehow, in 8 valves mode, it seem more effiecient that way may be becasue of engine braking and clutch in rolls are smoother.

 

As for non-vtech..if you have your back sporcket up to 44, the pick up is so more Kia_Cee_Nan but engine braking is harsh (got to get use to) and a bit more makang fuel.

 

There is a reason why Vtech comes standard with 44 teeth..it needed it for its non-vtech mode in 8 valves..otherwise...Boe_Lak!

[Ah Pek]

hi guys.. got a qn to ask.. sorrie if it sounds stupid.. was just wonderin.. is it possible to fit a spec 3 tail on a ver s..? thx..!

 

There are ppl who did it and if no..IMHO, anythng oso can just not cheap to customised. End of the day, look chio or what but what for..might as well very_The_Chio_Chio!..add a Suzuki B-King tail end, bend your exhaust feeder from midway to point aggressively higher shooting at sky..money still spend but looks Cee_Peh_Sung! (but still 53 hp lah)..LOL!

[syarif]

bro out there, can ask u all something??i m really confuse on which bike i should get.

 

comparing ver s n spec 1,2 or 3(with vtec) is there major diff except for e shiokness of vtec??

 

my fren all tell me dun get ver s cos no vtec, but to me ver s more affortable. how man????? any major diff?? thanks

 

shiokness in vtec last only for a few weeks. after that, u dont feel any fun. i ride a vtec now but im missing my version s. shiokness FC is better than shiokness of vtec. i ride from yishun to SP from monday to friday, and sometimes SP to town nack to yishun if im working. pumping petrol every 4 days is sickening on a vtec, even though i cruise max 90km/hr on expressways. the max i got was 21km/litre while i get a usual 24-26km/ltr on my version s. but u get more smiles points if u pump more right? collect alot of point, can buy rice cooker ady. haha!

 

my answer? get a good ol version s. cheap thrills for vtec dont last, but FC for version s does.

 

 

btw, i noticed that my bike has this screetching sound, like rusted metal at the rear. when i take on a hump, when the rear tyre hit the hump, the squeeking sound appear. dont thell me it's the shocks. any help?

[hachi]

I was wondering why not they abandon the VTEC and give us back the fuel efficient Ver S engine with EFI...

But with the latest outlook.....The refinement between 2 is very good....In fact I would rate S4 top notch for engine refinement...

[Ah Pek]

I was wondering why not they abandon the VTEC and give us back the fuel efficient Ver S engine with EFI...

But with the latest outlook.....The refinement between 2 is very good....In fact I would rate S4 top notch for engine refinement...

 

Vtech supposed to help save fuel thus better FC..running at 8 valves. When you need power and fast getway..then its suppose to ne into Vtec mode after 6.3k rpm. Non Vtec power band is at 7 to 7.5K rpm and our low end operates at 16 valves all the time giving better momentum though fuel seem to makan more..but not necessary. Having to wack thru 6 gearings and staying above 6k rpm to stay in 16 valves to catch a non-vtec is quite a task actually...LOL!..come corner and bend kenna dropped below 16 valves operation again...how to chow like that?...ke!_ke!_ke!

[hachi]

Vtec uses the good low end torque of the 8 valvers....Tipical 16 valver are high rev engine...They develop good grunt only at higher rev...

 

8 valvers develop torque and power at lower end...Vtec just combine this 2...

But it seem fuel consumption suffered as a result...

 

As much as I can feel....Low down grunt of Vtec...Well subjective it maybe...it had just a little bit torque that's about it...

 

Not really worth for higher consumption..As both still develop 53bhp at 11500rpm..

Just the surge of 16 valves transition that makes one believe it had better power at higher rev...

[fi_east]

i wonder why a legal rvf yoshi endcan become illegal when fitted on s4?, isn't it the same as the legal s4 yoshi endcan?

[syarif]

i wonder why a legal rvf yoshi endcan become illegal when fitted on s4?, isn't it the same as the legal s4 yoshi endcan?

 

i think one reason is because the rvf endcan is on the left, and ours is on the right. okay stupid theory of mine. but idk. it seems that way. there's a proper things for proper stuff. u cant put it something at opposite place right?

[fi_east]

i think one reason is because the rvf endcan is on the left, and ours is on the right. okay stupid theory of mine. but idk. it seems that way. there's a proper things for proper stuff. u cant put it something at opposite place right?

 

haha, ya... make sense.... also wanna know guys which shop has great spray painting job plus reasonable price.. which to spray ducati red on my super4 ver s...

[syarif]

haha, ya... make sense.... also wanna know guys which shop has great spray painting job plus reasonable price.. which to spray ducati red on my super4 ver s...

 

i heard amk has a good spraypainting specialist. my painjob from VS motorsport is good too. just ask for extra laquer finish. that'll be good.

 

but it's better to get the engine all done up than wasting money on paintwork. no use nice accesories when EO is 6 months old with fork oil leaking right?

[trial-sin]

btw.. dun me mind askin.. wat st-legal pipes are there fer da ver S..? those vtec spec1/2/3 ones can`t fit ryte..?

[smiley73]

btw.. dun me mind askin.. wat st-legal pipes are there fer da ver S..? those vtec spec1/2/3 ones can`t fit ryte..?

 

can those full system for Vtec model oso can fit

[norishimu]

if i wana add tos wings to a ver s tank bra, where can it be done?

[jiaxian85]

if i wana add tos wings to a ver s tank bra, where can it be done?

 

yo hi i think aunti diam can fix.. maybe can fix other design also..

[norishimu]

thanks bro..

[winim]

Does valve clearance helps in FC ? or jetting do help ? and how much does jetting cost ?

 

My Ver S 260km hit reserve which is very low.

 

Tried Nano balls it doesnt help, tried tuning and changing of carb needles, it doesnt help. tried putting grounding it doesnt help. tried putting power abuser it doesnt help too.

 

with this fc i

[smiley73]

Does valve clearance helps in FC ? or jetting do help ? and how much does jetting cost ?

 

My Ver S 260km hit reserve which is very low.

 

Tried Nano balls it doesnt help, tried tuning and changing of carb needles, it doesnt help. tried putting grounding it doesnt help. tried putting power abuser it doesnt help too.

 

with this fc i

 

Is your tyre size standard F 110 R 140??

[Ah Pek]

Does valve clearance helps in FC ? or jetting do help ? and how much does jetting cost ?

 

My Ver S 260km hit reserve which is very low.

 

Tried Nano balls it doesnt help, tried tuning and changing of carb needles, it doesnt help. tried putting grounding it doesnt help. tried putting power abuser it doesnt help too.

 

with this fc i

 

How do you usually ride your bike? There are many factors that affect fc and like what smiley73 said..tire size is just one of them. If your problem still persist and like it solve..have to look at your bike.