[Group] Super Four Non-VTEC Family: PB1 VerR & VerS

[kifakw]

Hi guys just want to check up on the Version S's riding position.

 

As compared to the newer super4, is there a difference between Version S and newer super4 like spec2/spec3 riding position?

 

Or is it just my rewrapped seats + sponge that makes me feel otherwise?

 

Thank you!

[xiaobanz]

thank u bro for responding!! actually i just got my bike today.. then got really scared on my way back home when i wanted to kick down to gear one from nuetral with the side stand then keep stalling.. i thought the clutch plate "gone" or something.. hehe~ phew! erm, then is it ok if change gear at lower rpm like say 4 or 4.5? will it damage the engine is any way? and also right, is it normal to hav a "knock" sound when to step down to gear one? ( so sorry guys if my question sounds stupid )

 

thanks in advance for responding to my queries!!

 

Wa, 4 ~ 4.5k rpm. I change gear at 3.5 ~ 4k.. Occationally change at 6 ~ 8k rpm.. That's cos must occationally wack.. haha..

 

Step down 1 gear is ok with the knock sound.. When i first did that, my fren shocked tio.. thought my bike spoilt sia.. haha

[Darkness19]

hey guys,does yoshi endcan get louder aft using for a longer time

[tangmulong4488]

hey guys,does yoshi endcan get louder aft using for a longer time

 

i think all end can get louder when use for a long time, must change the packing inside the endcan.

[tangmulong4488]

Yes..clockwise for Spring rebound rate only.

 

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hi bro wat is spring rebound rate?

[Ah Pek]

hi bro wat is spring rebound rate?

 

 

Read this for some knowledge...

 

 

http://www.strappe.com/suspension.html:sian:

 

 

 

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[gearone]

Hi guys just want to check up on the Version S's riding position.

 

As compared to the newer super4, is there a difference between Version S and newer super4 like spec2/spec3 riding position?

 

Or is it just my rewrapped seats + sponge that makes me feel otherwise?

 

Thank you!

 

from what i know is that for the ver s the seating position is a higher a bit compared to the vtec models...

 

the vtec models more sporty therefore the seat a bit lower nia...

 

all this is not my experience but experienced by my friend...his leg cant touch the ground when he tried straddling my ver s but he say his leg can touch the ground on the vtec models especially vtec 3 model..

 

from what i see is that the vtec 3 model the design looks more sporty

[gearone]

thank u bro for responding!! actually i just got my bike today.. then got really scared on my way back home when i wanted to kick down to gear one from nuetral with the side stand then keep stalling.. i thought the clutch plate "gone" or something.. hehe~ phew! erm, then is it ok if change gear at lower rpm like say 4 or 4.5? will it damage the engine is any way? and also right, is it normal to hav a "knock" sound when to step down to gear one? ( so sorry guys if my question sounds stupid )

 

thanks in advance for responding to my queries!!

 

another new rider...welcome to the non vtec family!

 

i also just got my bike recently...during the first week of riding i always change gear at 5-6...the sound very nice even though my exhaust still stock but must feel the power also mah...hahah

 

but now i trying to vary the gear change ard 4-5....now when change gear always look at the rpm but not really recommended cause if car in front e brake i finish liao...so trying to play it by ear...trying to change gear when the engine sound a bit strained...

 

also trying to find out which rpm will get me the best mileage also...so far im getting abt 360km for full tank...that calculation is just very rough estimation since i new rider

 

what i heard is that ver s fuel consumption better than the vtec models?

 

anyone willing to clarify?

 

Thanks!

[Guest akm_inferno]

another new rider...welcome to the non vtec family!

 

i also just got my bike recently...during the first week of riding i always change gear at 5-6...the sound very nice even though my exhaust still stock but must feel the power also mah...hahah

 

but now i trying to vary the gear change ard 4-5....now when change gear always look at the rpm but not really recommended cause if car in front e brake i finish liao...so trying to play it by ear...trying to change gear when the engine sound a bit strained...

 

also trying to find out which rpm will get me the best mileage also...so far im getting abt 360km for full tank...that calculation is just very rough estimation since i new rider

 

what i heard is that ver s fuel consumption better than the vtec models?

 

anyone willing to clarify?

 

Thanks!

 

thank bro for sharing yr experience in so much details with me!! really made me understand the situation alot.. THANKS!!

[Guest akm_inferno]

Wa, 4 ~ 4.5k rpm. I change gear at 3.5 ~ 4k.. Occationally change at 6 ~ 8k rpm.. That's cos must occationally wack.. haha..

 

Step down 1 gear is ok with the knock sound.. When i first did that, my fren shocked tio.. thought my bike spoilt sia.. haha

 

hahaha!! thanks for sharing yr experience too bro!! actually i oso thought something weong with my gear box or what.. hehe~ but bro.. i sometime notice a softer knock at gear 3 esprecially.. is it normal too? but won't haven if at higer rmp like 5... pls advice me.. thanks!!

[Guest akm_inferno]

hey AKM bro, when meeting up for riding?

lol

 

haha.. i'm going to ubi on monday to fix my speedo light.. wanna accompany me? hehe.. it's near yr place wat..

[Guest akm_inferno]

For my PB1,I change gear at rpm of 4,as I dont drag my gear and my average speed for highway is 90-100km/h. Dont speed,dude,especially new 2A rider.

 

thanks for the advice bro.. i'll keep in mind.. i usually ride 100km/h at gear 6.. i think.. super4 6 gears rite bro? paisey!! i super newbie rider actually.. i don't know why find it abit hard to control even though at 90-100, unlike 2b bike.. maybe not used to the my bike i guesse....

[Guest akm_inferno]

btw, i have an EMERGENCY question, and one not so emergency question to all super4 bros.. EMERGENCY QUESTION: is it normal for the rev meter to switch uncontrollebly from the right to left when in speed 100kh/h..? cuz my bike rev meter can swing from 7.5/8 rpm to 3.5/4 rpm back and forth like a compass needle when i'm at 100km/h ~ 110km/h.. i ask the bike shop, they say it's normal.. are they trying to cheat cuz bike under warrenty still, and they lazy to open meter to check?? non-emergency question: what is the normal IDLE rpm for super 4? pls respond soon bros.. cuz if confirmed, was thinking to bring shop by monday afternoon.. thank you guys so much!!! pls help me....

Edited June 27, 2009 by akm_inferno

[tangmulong4488]

btw, i have an EMERGENCY question to all super4 bros.. is it normal for the rev meter to switch uncontrollebly from the right to left when in speed 100kh/h..? cuz my bike rev meter can swing from 7.5/8 rpm to 3.5/4 rpm back and forth like a compass needle when i'm at 100km/h ~ 110km/h.. i ask the bike shop, they say it's normal.. are they trying to cheat cuz bike under warrenty still, and they lazy when meter to check?? pls respond soon bro.. cuz if confirmed, was thinking to bring shop by monday afternoon.. thank you guys so much!!! pls help me....

 

not normal lah... if speed is 100-110, gear 6th... rpm needle shud be at 6-7 one lah instead of dancing.

 

normal idle i think is 1200rpm +- 100

Edited June 27, 2009 by tangmulong4488

[tangmulong4488]

another new rider...welcome to the non vtec family!

 

i also just got my bike recently...during the first week of riding i always change gear at 5-6...the sound very nice even though my exhaust still stock but must feel the power also mah...hahah

 

but now i trying to vary the gear change ard 4-5....now when change gear always look at the rpm but not really recommended cause if car in front e brake i finish liao...so trying to play it by ear...trying to change gear when the engine sound a bit strained...

 

also trying to find out which rpm will get me the best mileage also...so far im getting abt 360km for full tank...that calculation is just very rough estimation since i new rider

 

what i heard is that ver s fuel consumption better than the vtec models?

 

anyone willing to clarify?

 

Thanks!

 

first week i got my bike i rev until 13rpm... nw i change gear at 6-7rpm. peak torque and power of s4 comes at 9-11 rpm. anything after that the figures drop... but u see the satisfation when the needle go touch the red zone...

 

by rite vtec rider gets better fuel consumption compare to us... because vtec suppose to save petrol... but by left... people review ver s save more petrol.

damn i am jealous... i only got about 260km after that go into reserve already. why like that... so sad:faint:

[tangmulong4488]

thanks for the advice bro.. i'll keep in mind.. i usually ride 100km/h at gear 6.. i think.. super4 6 gears rite bro? paisey!! i super newbie rider actually.. i don't know why find it abit hard to control even though at 90-100, unlike 2b bike.. maybe not used to the my bike i guesse....

 

yeap 6 gears.

[tangmulong4488]

Read this for some knowledge...

 

 

http://www.strappe.com/suspension.html:sian:

 

 

 

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ok thks understand already after reading wiki... will ask bike shop to change to higher spring rate since me and my pillion sometime goes to 150kg... haven't include my rear box and the groceries...

Edited June 27, 2009 by tangmulong4488

[Guest akm_inferno]

not normal lah... if speed is 100-110, gear 6th... rpm needle shud be at 6-7 one lah instead of dancing.

 

normal idle i think is 1200rpm +- 100

 

bro.. my rpm 1.2k when i cold start bike.. then slowly go up 1.5k.. when stop at traffic after riding around 1.75k sometime.. does these sound right to you? and thanks for the tip on the rev meter bro.. any idea wat might me wrong? maybe cable loose or something? scared that Mr. Lim at 'First Motoring' ask me pay to change whole meter leii.. sigh... some expert advice needed from u and all super4 bros.. THANK YOU!!

[tangmulong4488]

bro.. my rpm 1.2k when i cold start bike.. then slowly go up 1.5k.. when stop at traffic after riding around 1.75k sometime.. does these sound right to you? and thanks for the tip on the rev meter bro.. any idea wat might me wrong? maybe cable loose or something? scared that Mr. Lim at 'First Motoring' ask me pay to change whole meter leii.. sigh... some expert advice needed from u and all super4 bros.. THANK YOU!!

 

yupz, normal for idling to increase after u warm up. wat u mention about the idling is normal. no worries.

 

for the rpm meter... i nt sure.

Edited June 27, 2009 by tangmulong4488

[Guest akm_inferno]

yupz, normal for idling to increase after u warm up. wat u mention about the idling is normal. no worries.

 

for the rpm meter... i nt sure.

 

thank you tangmulong bro..! yr expert advice is much appreciated..! haiz.. hope someone out there can figure out wat's wrong with my rev meter though..

[Mior]

Hi bros im changing my bike from vtec1 to PB1.

 

But when i went to take a look at the PB1, the exhaust header and end can are almost the same as normal vtec series or VerS. I tot PB1 exhaust header should be polished and attached to the endcan as a set... Its a FN plate

Can anyone confirm?

[alvinwong]

Hi all, I'm riding a FR plate version s. Anyone could advise me of places to go for a proper tunning of my version s? Thanks alot in advance. And is it a must get my bike tunned after washing my carb ? Thanks alot for the help.

[Boon6600]

Just to check, isit possible to fit spec3 headlight to Ver S. Was told by the shop that the mounting is different, anybody done that mod be4?

[gearone]

hmm i actually asked the same question a few pages back...

 

what they answered is the current ver s headlight is all metal and the vtec version is plastic...some say the plastic will melt if high beam too long

 

price for the headlight is ard $80

 

if you want full answer can try page 168 and search for my post...

[Darkness19]

hey guys,just to check hw often do u wash ur K&N air filter,will there be any diff aft washing??