[Group] Super Four Non-VTEC Family: PB1 VerR & VerS

[gearone]

hi riders,i have been quite bothered with my FC.

so hope to get some advice/suggestions/recommendations.

 

First of all,i understood from ah pek that FC of every bikes vary,and many factors that will affect FC such as types of tyres used,tyres pressure,riding styles...etc.

 

But will just like to check with everyone if there are any ways,more or less which will help improve my FC,cos its really bad.

 

Some information:

My ride is a Version S

Tried riding normally and wack,both give about the same FC.

Use Esso 5000

Micron End Can only

FC - pump full tank and have to turn to reserve at 200km to 240km;Otherwise,engine will stall and will not be able to start.

Meaning my FC is only about 13-16km per litre.

 

I think this is really bad.haha.

Anyone can advise? Thanks

 

Hi hanxx

 

your mileage is really bad. But did the bike go for top overhaul cause that may be ONE of the causes. I remembered cause we bought the bike around the same time and i was quite interested in the bike.

 

Cause what i heard is top overhaul will change the FC of the bike...but thats what i heard only ah...need confirmation from those who have done top overhaul....

 

FYI my bike consumption before hitting reserve is ard 350-360, pump usually around 14-16litres. Dont dare to use until reserve bo liao. S4 heavy bike leh, i dont want to push to petrol station. Last time my kana my phantom, already sweat like run SOC...haha

 

Riding style: 50-50 Highway/major road

Speed: 100-120 Highway/0-80 Major/Minor road

Change gear: 3-5 Rpm

Petrol: Petronas 98/Shell 98/Shell 95

 

Good luck trying to find the source of your prob. Try changing part by part so you can monitor the FC/difference. If you change all at once you may not know what part you changed that causes the difference:)

 

Gearone

 

Btw Hanxx and patience needed...if you really wanna see how your bike perform for your fc..pump a full tank near to the brim and go ride on the longest expressway you can find and seee how it does..stick to 90km/hr to 120km/hr the very most and see how you fare. I'm saying this is because it could be your riding style and routes taken daily. Do it over an weekend evening and continue the next morning if it takes to finished the tank.

 

Base on the above, you can determine the likely problem of your bike.

I did that a long time ago and surprising clocked 350km+ before hitting reserve on an old horse machine.

 

Hi ah pek

 

Maybe you suprised that the bike clocked 350km cause the way you ride mah...haha:angel:

 

For normal riding i always clock around 350-360++...ver S=Slow rider...hahah

[hanxx]

dont think air filter affect so much fc, i also using knn with aftermarket exhaust, pump jb full tank untill spill still i can get at least 430 - 440km.. also riding style ard 70 - 100 most of time... maybe ur tank leaking petrol is it, .. anyway hope u can solve ur problem soon...

 

ok thanks,yeah seemed like the only possible reason is tank leak.did suspect also.

[hanxx]

Thanks gearone,only heard from previous owner that he did tip top servicing,not overhaul.

anyway,will like to solve the problem soon.yeap.

[Tanaka]

23 jalan buroh is beside SPC. is it that area?

 

there are 2 SPC, 1 is near exxon mobil oil refinery, the other SPC is before CWT distripark. The scrap yard is before Jurong island round about if you are heading towards west coast.

[Tanaka]

http://www.streetdirectory.com/asia_travel/travel/travel_id_2368/travel_site_112362/

 

yeh, you the man... thanks for better illustration. for guys who intend to go to jalan buroh scrap yard click at the link above posted by holugyi.

 

any way bro you know the owner of the scrap yard at tractor rd or you r the owner?

[driftbaker]

ok thanks,yeah seemed like the only possible reason is tank leak.did suspect also.

 

a good indication of tank leak is a strong petrol smell on the next morning after parking for a night. happened to one of the bikes at my carpark, the smell is very obvious. otherwise, Ah Pek's method is the best to check if the reason is due to the operating components or a leak somewhere.

[Ah Pek]

where is the scrap yard ?? can give mi the address ??thank

 

Got this list from someone who posted in the SBF here somewhere way back..thanks to him whatever his name is....

 

scrapyards address:

 

27 Jalan Buroh,

Ah Ann trading..

Opening 9am - 5pm

Hup Lee Leong Hardware Pte Ltd

26 Sungei Kadut St 3 Singapore 729153

Tel: 6363 5055 6367 0019

Mondays to Fridays:

8.30am - 6pm

Saturdays:

8.30am - 5pm

 

Kim Hock Recycling (Pte) Ltd

10 Benoi Road

Singapore 629885

Tel: 6862 3883

Mondays to Fridays:

9am - 12pm, 1pm - 6pm

Saturdays:

9am - 12pm, 1pm - 5pm

 

King's Metal (S) Pte Ltd

16 Pioneer Sector 2

Singapore 628377

Tel: 6862 1955

Mondays to Fridays:

8.30am - 6pm

Saturdays:

8.30am - 5pm

 

Lim Asia Steel Pte Ltd

11 Pioneer Sector 3

Singapore 628346

Tel: 6862 9109

Mondays to Fridays:

8.30am - 5pm

Saturdays:

8am - 1pm

 

NatFerrous Pte Ltd

(Natsteel)

9 Jurong Pier Road

Singapore 619161

Tel: 6268 2862

Mondays to Fridays:

8am - 4pm

Saturdays:

8 am - 12pm

 

 

YLS Steel Pte Ltd

1 Wan Shih Road Singapore 627901

Tel: 6861 9833

Mondays to Fridays:

9am -6pm

Saturdays:

[an_jing3]

nice nice , good piece of infomation, wonder do they have part for spec one. cost i look for radiator cover. think have to find a good sunny day to take a look man this few day keep raining heavily .

 

ride safely every one !!!!!!!

[Dkoh]

Seal replacement and dust cover plus fork oil chnaged after cleaning..$90. Try Ah Fook at AMK Ave 10, Blk 5032 #295...closed at 8 pm..weekdays..Sat & Sun till 6 pm.

 

Thanks ah pek...

 

BTW $90 is price for both fork or only 1pcs?

[Ah Pek]

Thanks ah pek...

 

BTW $90 is price for both fork or only 1pcs?

 

 

Both and tell him to put in 450cc ea and that I send you.

[Huatster888]

bike is smooth n powerful liao............just need 2 more items lol

[sadman46]

Hi guys, anyone roughly knows wt price the bikeshops will eat my FN plate VerS? COE renewed. Will trading in for another bike get a better price? thanks

[Ah Pek]

Hi guys, anyone roughly knows wt price the bikeshops will eat my FN plate VerS? COE renewed. Will trading in for another bike get a better price? thanks

 

It really does not matter what year by number plate..good buyer are more concern about your bike status.

[Ah Pek]

bike is smooth n powerful liao............just need 2 more items lol

 

Enjoy every inch of your ride....stay safe

[Huatster888]

tanks ah pek ...... enriching lessons.....from a passionate rider like u ......keep the eps n grounding 4 me

[Ah Pek]

tanks ah pek ...... enriching lessons.....from a passionate rider like u ......keep the eps n grounding 4 me

 

LOL!...ok la..I will

[Huatster888]

wah yesterday nite ride down mustafa...try 2 hunt 4 voltmeter cause my old 1 ups lorry liao....the trip was soooo smooth n engine damn cool man......nt because its at nite...at nite last time i ride also hot 1...but now......amazing cooling properties frm ah pek.....

Edited November 15, 2009 by Huatster888

[Winners]

Hi Ah Pek,

 

Was wondering if you know of any motor shop which can do the "tyre repair patch from inside" method? Presently, my rear tire is leaking again from an old patch done previously by the "injection" (or worm) method.

 

Just went to Mah Motors and they told me that the only solution now is to use the "repair patch from inside" method. Unfortunately, they don't have the facility to do this kind of repair. They also agreed that my tyre, which still has over 75% life left, is too wasteful to be discarded. Thanks for your advice if possible.

[ellamcoy]

Dear friends, anyone know what is the possible cause of engine oil leak for the ver S? After parking the ride at the lot, next day discover a patch of engine oil at the ground. Small patch found on the ground somewhere near the rear brake pedal. There seem to be some dripping stain found behind the triangular "fairing" where it house the coolant spare reservior.

 

Any tip or place to fix this?

[Ah Pek]

Hi Ah Pek,

 

Was wondering if you know of any motor shop which can do the "tyre repair patch from inside" method? Presently, my rear tire is leaking again from an old patch done previously by the "injection" (or worm) method.

 

Just went to Mah Motors and they told me that the only solution now is to use the "repair patch from inside" method. Unfortunately, they don't have the facility to do this kind of repair. They also agreed that my tyre, which still has over 75% life left, is too wasteful to be discarded. Thanks for your advice if possible.

 

Came across few cases where previous worm patches leak. This is because of the poor quality type worm rubber latex used.

 

Can always 're-worm' but make sure that extra gluey be coated on the wprm latex strip. Ah Fook dome that liao recently for someone.

 

Patching from insdie should work too..bring along your bicycle patch set..can get from Mustafa and go to Ah Fook workshop. Tyre has to come off, sand from inside around the leak area and applied the patch as with bicycle/motobike inner tubing repair work. Guess the process would cost more.

[Ah Pek]

Dear friends, anyone know what is the possible cause of engine oil leak for the ver S? After parking the ride at the lot, next day discover a patch of engine oil at the ground. Small patch found on the ground somewhere near the rear brake pedal. There seem to be some dripping stain found behind the triangular "fairing" where it house the coolant spare reservior.

 

Any tip or place to fix this?

 

Nothing to fix..it's excessive eo "blow by" vopour grease accumulated due to too much eo filled. This comes from the engine overhead by pass breather. Also comes from the no excess waste nozzle siuted at the botyom of your air filter box..this is where excess eo flows out. Normally temporary. If it's continuos for a few days..its something else.

 

Not to over sight, may be you wanna have a good look under and see if your oil sump (bottle tray of your engine gear box). Sometime, fling up stones can punture and crack the eo sump base housing.

[Ah Pek]

wah yesterday nite ride down mustafa...try 2 hunt 4 voltmeter cause my old 1 ups lorry liao....the trip was soooo smooth n engine damn cool man......nt because its at nite...at nite last time i ride also hot 1...but now......amazing cooling properties frm ah pek.....

 

Got lagi shiok call 'power wanna chiong_chiong' shiokeness waiting for you...LOL!

[tiku]

ah pek.. my headlight gt no light.. i don have headlight cut off switch. initially thought is normal beam coil gone. swtich to hi beam. there also isnt any light also when i switch to hi beam, the indicator for hi beam light also did not light up. but when i press the trigger for hi beam, there is light and indicator did light up... everythings is fine like signal light...

 

 

can any one help me? is it fuse?

[ellamcoy]

Nothing to fix..it's excessive eo "blow by" vopour grease accumulated due to too much eo filled. This comes from the engine overhead by pass breather. Also comes from the no excess waste nozzle siuted at the botyom of your air filter box..this is where excess eo flows out. Normally temporary. If it's continuos for a few days..its something else.

 

Not to over sight, may be you wanna have a good look under and see if your oil sump (bottle tray of your engine gear box). Sometime, fling up stones can punture and crack the eo sump base housing.

 

I see, will monitor for a while. Thank you so muz Sir. Been following this thread for a while, it is very helpful with you around, hahaha. Thanks again!

[kano]

Got lagi shiok call 'power wanna chiong_chiong' shiokeness waiting for you...LOL!

 

how ah pek

any more of ur liquid to intro

kekeke

wanna maintain the engine lasting

keke