Honda Blackbird CBR1100 XX

[STRYKER]

Fuel Injection ( EFI ) Fault Diagnosis and Checking

 

 

If the fuel injection system ( FI ) warning light on the instrument cluster illuminates when the motorcycle is running, a fault has occurred in the fuel injection/ignition system. The engine control module ( ECM ) will store the relevant fault code in its memory and this code can be read as follows using the self-diagnostic mode of the ECM. While the engine is running and the motorcycle is being used, the FI light will come on and stay on. When the motorcycle is on its side stand and the is running below 5000 revs the FI light will flash, the pattern of the flashes indicating the code for the fault the ECM has identified.

 

If the engine can be started, place the motorcycle on its side stand and then start the engine and allow it to idle. Whilst the engine is idling, observe the FI warning light on the instrument cluster.

 

If the engine cannot be started, or to check for any stored fault codes even though the FI light is not illuminated, remove the seat to gain access to the fuel injectionsystem service check wiring connector, which is a white 3-pin ( 2 wire ) single sided connector inside the rubber boot close to the tail light.

Ensure the ignition is switched OFF then bridge the outer terminals of the service check connector with an auxiliary piece of wire.

With the terminals connected make sure the kill switch is in the run position then turn the ignition ON and observe the FI warning light.

If there are no stored codes the FI light will come on and stay on.

If there are stored fault codes, the FI light will flash.

 

The fuel injection system warning light uses long ( 1.3 second ) and short ( .5 second ) flashes to give out the fault code. A long flash is used to indicate the first digit of a double digit fault code ( i.e. 10 or above ). If a single digit fault code is being displayed ( i.e. 1 to 9 ) there will be a number of short flashes equivalent to the code being displayed.

For example, two long flashes followed by five short flashes indicate the fault code number twenty five. If there is more than one fault code, there will be a gap before the other codes are revealed ( the codes will be revealed in order , starting with the lowest and ending with the highest ). Once all the code(s) have been revealed, the ECM will continuously run through the code(s) stored in its memory, revealing each one in turn with a short gap between them.

 

Once the fault has been identified and corrected, it will be necessary to reset the system by removing the fault code from the ECM memory. To do this, ensure the ignition is switched OFF then bridge the terminals of the service check connector as before.

Turn the ignition ON then disconnect the bridge wire from the service check connector.

When the wire is removed the FI light should come on for approximately five seconds, during which time the bridging wire must be reconnected.

The warning light should start to flash when the bridging wire is reconnected, indicating that all the fault codes have been erased. However, if the light flashes twenty times then the memory has not been erased and the procedure should be repeated.

Turn off the ignition then remove the bridging wire.

Check the operation of the warning light ( in some cases it may be necessary to repeat the erasing procedure more than once ) then replace the seat.

 

 

FAULT CODE

 

 

 

SYMPTOM

 

 

 

POSSIBLE CAUSE

 

 

1

Engine runs normally

Faulty MAP sensor or wiring

2

Engine runs normally

Faulty MAP sensor / vacuum hose

7

Engine difficult to start at low temp.

Faulty coolant temp. sensor or wiring

8

Poor throttle response

Faulty throttle position sensor or wiring

9

Engine runs normally

Faulty intake air temp. sensor or wiring

10 ( see note 1)

Engine runs poor at high altitude

Faulty atmospheric pressure sensor

11

engine operates normally

Faulty speed sensor or wiring

12

Engine does not start

Faulty no. 1 fuel injector

13

Engine does not start

Faulty no. 2 fuel injector

14

Engine does not start

Faulty no. 3 fuel injector

15

Engine does not start

Faulty no. 4 fuel injector

18

Engine does not start

Faulty cam pulse gen.r or wiring

19

Engine does not start

Faulty ignition pulse gen. or wiring

20

engine operates normally

Faulty EPROM in ECM

25

engine operates normally

Faulty knock sensor or wiring

 

 

 

The following codes are only applicable to models with catalytic converter.

 

21

engine operates normally

faulty oxygen sensor

23

engine operates normally

Faulty oxygen sensor heat element

 

 

Note 1.

code 10 is only on the 1999 to 2000 X and Y models

[vqz_racing]

For wat model bro? Wrs the location of the temp sensor?

 

THe left side of radiator....with a switch attached..

[vqz_racing]

wow....u werk for garmen uh?just get bonos is it?2.2k i used it for my bb downpayment sia...

 

I got a quote of $450 for valve clearance and $100 for service and tune carb..3days to complete ..

is it ok?

[greysnail]

Long time neber do valve clearance so i dunno wats the current price, i will juz do clearance once my bike hits another 100k

[sujak]

400km left for running in..

[greysnail]

Soon the Paya Ubi Racing Team will be roaming the streets....yahooooooi!!!!!

[STRYKER]

I got a quote of $450 for valve clearance and $100 for service and tune carb..3days to complete ..

is it ok?

 

Yeah i also got a quote of between 400-500 for valve clearance...but 100 for service n tune carbs i not sure coz carb model have 4 carbs if im not wrong so its just like any cbr400 or s4...for fi model i did 4x injectors n throttle body service and tuning for 180 at unique.carb service n tuning shud be abt $60-80 only i believe...

 

 

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[stwb1981]

hi birdes....

Selling my Sonic or Wave...

Good for spare bike

kindly click on the link...

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/355575-RELIABLE-CUBs!!!!-HONDA-Sonic-125M-or-Wave-S-125

 

Had sum negative experience with someone on this thread...

kindly assist to those who noe me & see who is right or wrong...

 

Cheers!!!

[vinho_16]

Does anyone get this problem of the moto bobok when riding under heavy rain?

What could possibly cause this?

[bluewitch]

If I can remember correctly, it is i-motoring at Bukit Merah.

 

Sorry to interupted, but pls be very carefull of this shop, just an advise....

 

Cheers...

[bluewitch]

just gt my bike back from ah lai for shim adjustment top overhaul clutch housing, clutch plate , water hose,wire harness and so much more lol so expensive 2.2k and best part my ecu still blinking wtf lol

 

How many blink....???

I might give u an advise, as i have ever encounter blinking problem, and it's all solve after throwing $$$ onto it....

 

Cheers...

[bluewitch]

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Taken off page 148/559 of the CBR1100XX_Shop_Manual.pdf

 

Maybe this could help in reseting the ECU? i believe the service connector is at near the tail light area bundled together with our rear signal lights connector.

 

Re-setting the ECU is a simple job, anyone without a technical background also will be able to do it, it's just to jump a wire between connectors, i ever did it for SUJAK, and yes there will be a lot of codes/blink coming out, as these blinks are to take note/write it down how many blinks then reset the ECM, after that if any of the problem still persist, the Fi light will give all new blink/error code, so from there again u can comfirm which or what wrong with ur bike...

 

Cheers

[greysnail]

Vin....if riding in rain and the moto start to bobok(dying off) means it........aiyah raining la...

i wanna pull my blanket and sleep....wakakakakakakakaka

[sujak]

After Bluewitch reset my ECU, there are so many error codes that I myself dun dare to check in the manual. At that instant, I just want to sell the bike away.. ive decided to rebuilt the bike back bit by bit.. It will take me awhile.. Ive taken care of my engine and it will now last me another 10 more years.. next stop is to change wiring harness and ecu.. after which I want to change my radiator hose.. when everything is done, I wanna respray my BB to pink colour!!! one and only pink blackbird!! hehehe...

[STRYKER]

After Bluewitch reset my ECU, there are so many error codes that I myself dun dare to check in the manual. At that instant, I just want to sell the bike away.. ive decided to rebuilt the bike back bit by bit.. It will take me awhile.. Ive taken care of my engine and it will now last me another 10 more years.. next stop is to change wiring harness and ecu.. after which I want to change my radiator hose.. when everything is done, I wanna respray my BB to pink colour!!! one and only pink blackbird!! hehehe...

 

Pink color den become hello kitty blackbird...but nvm as long as dun become kuku bird can uh...

 

 

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[bluewitch]

After Bluewitch reset my ECU, there are so many error codes that I myself dun dare to check in the manual. At that instant, I just want to sell the bike away.. ive decided to rebuilt the bike back bit by bit.. It will take me awhile.. Ive taken care of my engine and it will now last me another 10 more years.. next stop is to change wiring harness and ecu.. after which I want to change my radiator hose.. when everything is done, I wanna respray my BB to pink colour!!! one and only pink blackbird!! hehehe...

 

Wiring harness, to change it just a precautions, as the wiring getting old.

 

Ecu why want to change...? Got 2 5 blink is it...???

 

Cheers.

[vinho_16]

Vin....if riding in rain and the moto start to bobok(dying off) means it........aiyah raining la...

i wanna pull my blanket and sleep....wakakakakakakakaka

 

Bhahahahaha...

[rok_yantzen]

How many blink....???

I might give u an advise, as i have ever encounter blinking problem, and it's all solve after throwing $$$ onto it....

 

Cheers...

 

So i believe to solve that problem is to change the ECU rite? Alai quote me second hand ecu for 800 and wire harness 500....Fuyooooooo!!!! Buah peler kecut!!!!

[sujak]

wah second ecu and first hand ecu almost the same price.. i think FJT selling ard $900

[braveiron]

400km left for running in..

 

Go KL and come back. Running in settle.

[STRYKER]

So i believe to solve that problem is to change the ECU rite? Alai quote me second hand ecu for 800 and wire harness 500....Fuyooooooo!!!! Buah peler kecut!!!!

 

If not mistaken remember got some shop quote me 1.1k for ecu + 2sets of blank keys.

As for wirings,ah lai quoted me $540 sia...wiring change is better den changing ecu...coz wirings being old we do not noe if they have oxidised or broken in the insulators...den theres also cases of the wirings have been spliced for our accessories...no doubt the ecu is fragile but if its so fragile why would honda used it for so many generations of bikes?ecu is the brain of the bike.very rare we hear people changing new brains....huhuhu...

 

 

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[bluewitch]

So i believe to solve that problem is to change the ECU rite? Alai quote me second hand ecu for 800 and wire harness 500....Fuyooooooo!!!! Buah peler kecut!!!!

 

For ecu, need to change to brand new one, no point of changing to 2nd hand as there will be no warranty issue on it, and some 2nd hand ECU have been modified so that it won't give any signal for error code.

 

My advise, Bikewerkz, ah-beng. one of the most trusted shop.

 

Ecu pricing.

Analog model about 800 +.

Digital model about 1k+.

[bluewitch]

If not mistaken remember got some shop quote me 1.1k for ecu + 2sets of blank keys.

As for wirings,ah lai quoted me $540 sia...wiring change is better den changing ecu...coz wirings being old we do not noe if they have oxidised or broken in the insulators...den theres also cases of the wirings have been spliced for our accessories...no doubt the ecu is fragile but if its so fragile why would honda used it for so many generations of bikes?ecu is the brain of the bike.very rare we hear people changing new brains....huhuhu...

 

 

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This ECU 2 5blink issue have been quite sometimes, and all will solve by changing ECU, no only in sg, but all over the world having the same problem

So far only 2 HONDA productions bikes have this problem, Blackbird and ST1300 Pan Euro...

 

Wiring harness problem is different, the bike engine will stall while riding, and after for a while u can start the bike again..

 

Both of this problem i've been there and experience it..

 

Cheers...

[Cpt.ZR]

Hi all fellow birdy-ians.. hahah...

[rok_yantzen]

For ecu, need to change to brand new one, no point of changing to 2nd hand as there will be no warranty issue on it, and some 2nd hand ECU have been modified so that it won't give any signal for error code.

 

My advise, Bikewerkz, ah-beng. one of the most trusted shop.

 

Ecu pricing.

Analog model about 800 +.

Digital model about 1k+.

 

But i always contact tis ahbeng abt the ecu, always gt no stock....hw bout the pricing for wire harness at ahbeng? I noe that alai a bit expensive but his dedication towards blackbird earn my respect!!! Salute Alai!!!