Road markings

[Jehuty]

Just curious, how many of you have skidded on wet road markings before? Recently I just got into an accident because my bike slipped because of those white road markings on highway road shoulders. Was lucky enough to escape with my life and limb intact.

[robbedzombie]

Just curious, how many of you have skidded on wet road markings before? Recently I just got into an accident because my bike slipped because of those white road markings on highway road shoulders. Was lucky enough to escape with my life and limb intact.

 

i oso got...skidded at 30 kmh hahahah...

[Jehuty]

i oso got...skidded at 30 kmh hahahah...

 

If there wasn't a stationary vehicle there, I think I could have picked up the bike and continued riding, apparently a stationary vehicle right after an exit caused me to get spooked a bit.

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Yes, try to do the majority of braking on black / good road surface and avoid the markings. Wheel lockup is no fun.

[yc86]

And if I recall correctly during the lessons at sch, the instructor said that the road markings were made of the same material as the road surface, so it is safe. Thou that was like 4 yrs ago.. maybe now different alr?

[xiaoviper]

And if I recall correctly during the lessons at sch, the instructor said that the road markings were made of the same material as the road surface, so it is safe. Thou that was like 4 yrs ago.. maybe now different alr?

 

But its painted.

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Story:

 

An expert Aprilia RS125 tuner was escorting my convoy as a sweeper one evening, along Alexandra Road over the AYE flyover he had to overtake the convoy to catch up with me. At the end of the catchup maneuver he required moderate straight line braking to catch the left hander towards the Depot Rd junction.

 

So he was braking and as the front forks got heavily loaded the bike went over a yellow box. Although the bike did not lose stability, there was an audible SCREECH of the tyre locking up momentarily as it went over the painted yellow surface. This was only noticeable because it was a HD camera mounted on the nose of the bike, directly over the front wheel.

 

Still have his recording for instructional purposes of this nature. Steer away from painted road surfaces and better yet, brake beforehand, not on it. If you're going over it, moderate on your braking force to prevent wheel lock over the reduced-friction area.

 

Note that those bumpy painted surfaces found on some road shoulder markers on the BKE and filter lanes have less of a problem because the bumps engage with the rubber and the grooves of your tyre, creating mechanical grip. Beware of those big painted bus lane boxes along Yio Chu Kang and Ang Mo Kio trunk roads as they are totally slick when wet.

 

The absolute WORST painted surfaces is the carpark on top of the giant kopitiam at Sengkang. It's slippery and powdery creating a massive hazard to 2 wheeled vehicles in the day. You can slip while walking on it, for christ's sake.

[Jehuty]

Story:

 

An expert Aprilia RS125 tuner was escorting my convoy as a sweeper one evening, along Alexandra Road over the AYE flyover he had to overtake the convoy to catch up with me. At the end of the catchup maneuver he required moderate straight line braking to catch the left hander towards the Depot Rd junction.

 

So he was braking and as the front forks got heavily loaded the bike went over a yellow box. Although the bike did not lose stability, there was an audible SCREECH of the tyre locking up momentarily as it went over the painted yellow surface. This was only noticeable because it was a HD camera mounted on the nose of the bike, directly over the front wheel.

 

Still have his recording for instructional purposes of this nature. Steer away from painted road surfaces and better yet, brake beforehand, not on it. If you're going over it, moderate on your braking force to prevent wheel lock over the reduced-friction area.

 

Note that those bumpy painted surfaces found on some road shoulder markers on the BKE and filter lanes have less of a problem because the bumps engage with the rubber and the grooves of your tyre, creating mechanical grip. Beware of those big painted bus lane boxes along Yio Chu Kang and Ang Mo Kio trunk roads as they are totally slick when wet.

 

The absolute WORST painted surfaces is the carpark on top of the giant kopitiam at Sengkang. It's slippery and powdery creating a massive hazard to 2 wheeled vehicles in the day. You can slip while walking on it, for christ's sake.

 

I realised that the bike slipped when I applied more brake though I was already tapping my brakes beforehand because I noticed I wasn't slowing down enough, definately no time to react. The part of me that was sliding on the marking suffered little to no abrasions, the part of me dragging on the tarmac was blood and lacerations on my limbs. Bad thing was, I was wearing clogs and bermudas, my right clog tore through and dragged all the way up to my knee.

[Jehuty]

Story:

 

An expert Aprilia RS125 tuner was escorting my convoy as a sweeper one evening, along Alexandra Road over the AYE flyover he had to overtake the convoy to catch up with me. At the end of the catchup maneuver he required moderate straight line braking to catch the left hander towards the Depot Rd junction.

 

So he was braking and as the front forks got heavily loaded the bike went over a yellow box. Although the bike did not lose stability, there was an audible SCREECH of the tyre locking up momentarily as it went over the painted yellow surface. This was only noticeable because it was a HD camera mounted on the nose of the bike, directly over the front wheel.

 

Still have his recording for instructional purposes of this nature. Steer away from painted road surfaces and better yet, brake beforehand, not on it. If you're going over it, moderate on your braking force to prevent wheel lock over the reduced-friction area.

 

Note that those bumpy painted surfaces found on some road shoulder markers on the BKE and filter lanes have less of a problem because the bumps engage with the rubber and the grooves of your tyre, creating mechanical grip. Beware of those big painted bus lane boxes along Yio Chu Kang and Ang Mo Kio trunk roads as they are totally slick when wet.

 

The absolute WORST painted surfaces is the carpark on top of the giant kopitiam at Sengkang. It's slippery and powdery creating a massive hazard to 2 wheeled vehicles in the day. You can slip while walking on it, for christ's sake.

 

I realised that the bike slipped when I applied more brake though I was already tapping my brakes beforehand because I noticed I wasn't slowing down enough, definately no time to react. The part of me that was sliding on the marking suffered little to no abrasions, the part of me dragging on the tarmac was blood and lacerations on my limbs. Bad thing was, I was wearing clogs and bermudas, my right clog tore through and dragged all the way up to my knee.

[Jehuty]

And if I recall correctly during the lessons at sch, the instructor said that the road markings were made of the same material as the road surface, so it is safe. Thou that was like 4 yrs ago.. maybe now different alr?

 

Bull la, if it was tarmac, don't think I would have slipped. I almost slip on wet road marking while walking eh, although I very rarely slip while walking, im not so lucky with riding.

[KeraKing]

yup the road markings are definitely slippery when wet.. even the arrows

better avoid during wet time.. or better avoid at all time..

[Hydher]

Careful of metal drains as well eg those roads under constuctions

[lauhs8]

I skidded on new painted double yellow line where paint still not dry.Lucky slow speed & balance well.

 

Now don't trust the road anymore will travel with necessary speed & RAM my MICRON once in a blue moon.

 

Regards

[lauhs8]

Careful of metal drains as well eg those roads under constuctions

 

Yap and metal plank too.

 

Regards

[KeraKing]

the road under construction where it replace the tar by the metal.. yikes..

[sliq]

avoid painted road markings and be double careful on metal plated roads

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Basically slow down early and keep the bike as steady as possible over hazard zones. Avoid hard braking and maintain smooth throttle control. Your bike will

[Jehuty]

Basically slow down early and keep the bike as steady as possible over hazard zones. Avoid hard braking and maintain smooth throttle control. Your bike will

 

Too late liao, I just pray wife is injured only, not dead, haven't fully assessed her condition, if very jialat then I don't want to incur more cost, should scrap her then save up and settle the installment quickly. If scrap, wasted la, COE till 2020.

[xiaoviper]

Careful of metal drains as well eg those roads under constuctions

 

Especially those with grills, last I remembered when going AsPhoon at Toh Guan, the drain with grills were wet and when I went over them, totally slided instead of rolled over, wheel too thin and started running in between the grills if you know what I mean.

[Constructicon]

Basically, slow down and take your cornering carefully on rainy days when you approach these:

 

1. Lane Markings/ White Arrows (Rain + White Arrow near Traffic Light + Speed = Sh*t happens)

2. Manhole covers (Some of these are located right in the centre of bends)

3. School Zone (Red bricks denote the zone, be careful when it's raining)

4. Bus zone (The huge yellow zone is probably not as grippy as other areas)

5. Metal Plates (Construction area covers, these are the worst.)

6. Multi-storey Carparks (Many of these carparks have floors which are ok in the dry, when it is wet, offers minimal traction especially to motorcycles. Be very careful when going up and down the carpark.)

7. Metal drain grilles (When crossing over these covers, be careful. Zero traction.)

 

Some years back, there was a fatal accident at one of the bends which I frequently used. Right in the centre is a manhole cover and it will not take much speed or lean for a motorcycle to lose a front/ rear.

Some road design probably do not feature motorcycles as a consideration. I mean manhole cover, right in the centre of a bend? hmm....

 

1 incident a few weeks back - I was at the rain shelter at the Expressway when I saw this rider riding in towards the shelter. Speed is very slow and when he guide his bike towards the left entry path, the tyres crossed the white lines and down he went.

As I said, his speed is already slow, but the tyres lost traction over the white lines as he guided the bike in.

 

Just be careful when it rains.

[bukitmerah]

Basically, slow down and take your cornering carefully on rainy days when you approach these:

 

1. Lane Markings/ White Arrows (Rain + White Arrow near Traffic Light + Speed = Sh*t happens)

2. Manhole covers (Some of these are located right in the centre of bends)

3. School Zone (Red bricks denote the zone, be careful when it's raining)

4. Bus zone (The huge yellow zone is probably not as grippy as other areas)

5. Metal Plates (Construction area covers, these are the worst.)

6. Multi-storey Carparks (Many of these carparks have floors which are ok in the dry, when it is wet, offers minimal traction especially to motorcycles. Be very careful when going up and down the carpark.)

7. Metal drain grilles (When crossing over these covers, be careful. Zero traction.)

 

Some years back, there was a fatal accident at one of the bends which I frequently used. Right in the centre is a manhole cover and it will not take much speed or lean for a motorcycle to lose a front/ rear.

Some road design probably do not feature motorcycles as a consideration. I mean manhole cover, right in the centre of a bend? hmm....

 

1 incident a few weeks back - I was at the rain shelter at the Expressway when I saw this rider riding in towards the shelter. Speed is very slow and when he guide his bike towards the left entry path, the tyres crossed the white lines and down he went.

As I said, his speed is already slow, but the tyres lost traction over the white lines as he guided the bike in.

 

Just be careful when it rains.

 

1) the new white lane / arrow/ words markings that got extra "shiny" one very slippery, unlike the older type which is ok. the past few years, LTA is trying to "kill" us riders with the "new" markings, arrows & "Red Bricks". it is getting ridiculously slippery, we need to complain. Any lane marking, arrow, red brick should work, no need to make them so "shiny" & smooth to kill us!

 

2) From my riding experience, i never fear riding in the rain. in the rain, we riders & car drivers are usually very slow cause everyone needs extra breaking distance due to lack of traction & also POOR VISIBILITY. from my OWN experience, nearly all my past "accidents" & based on my personal observation even car drivers usually have "accidents" when...

 

3) after the rain has nearly or completely stopped. the car drivers drivers tend to drive faster as visibility has improved. inexperienced riders ( like myself when i was a newbie ) tend to speed up as everyone else has speed up. Most drivers & riders show relief & has a FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY when the rain is slowing / stopped completely. what many drivers / riders forget is the road is STILL WET! This is the time when it is the MOST DANGEROUS in my opinion. SO please be EVEN MORE CAREFUL AFTER THE RAIN HAS STOP OR BECOME SMALLER ( sorry my broken english )

Edited June 1, 2011 by bukitmerah
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[Jehuty]

Are they gonna blame us these sort of accidents everytime they happen? Cuz trying to avoid every one of these might become a hazard in itself. I don't think I can avoid them all when avoiding bad drivers already takes half my attention, the other half looking at where I'm heading to.

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

I would also caution against over-inflating tyres significantly for fuel efficiency as it can make a bike extremely twitchy in the wet, especially over those danger zones mentioned above.

 

Always check tyre pressure when shop returns you the bike. Sometimes they give you like, 300kpa pressure if your little bike has big wheels. That pressure on a 160 kilo 2B bike can induce wheel lock so easily its not even funny. A significant number of riders (mostly non SBF readers) do not know how to check tyre pressure and aren't aware that causes accidents too.

 

Knowing the usual "rider/owner is at fault" trend, its best to take precaution. Especially when knee-jerk reactions don't save a bike from falling over on a slippery surface.

[Jehuty]

What to do, now just need to face the music lo, hopefully fines not so bad, non existent even better, not easy to save up in Singapore. Hoping this won't get my license revoked or alot of demerits, if alot but license not revoked, would probably steer away till 2A.

[Fried Rice]

@Jehuty

good to see you are still safe and sound.

 

i understand that the markings are very slippery. last time i stopped on the road, then i put my left leg down on the markings, i immediately slipped and almost fall

 

from that point onwards i became very cautious of markings liao

 

Just curious, how many of you have skidded on wet road markings before? Recently I just got into an accident because my bike slipped because of those white road markings on highway road shoulders. Was lucky enough to escape with my life and limb intact.

 

@xiaoviper

i get what you mean. i experience this. sometimes got 'crack' on the road and my thin 2b bike tyres will start running in between them

 

Especially those with grills, last I remembered when going AsPhoon at Toh Guan, the drain with grills were wet and when I went over them, totally slided instead of rolled over, wheel too thin and started running in between the grills if you know what I mean.