be honest, if your partner run with someone else and........

[GuiNNeSS]

Yes. But you forgot. Females are not animals. They will much prefer their males to be of the same levels.

 

2) you missed out. Since females with children are so abhorred. Why so itchy want to produce children again with such females?

 

Laws of nature, or matter of just ego? Basic instinct for the male lion to kill off the spawn of the female lion, is a matter of conserving the nature and demanding the attention of the female lions to themselves. If nature's resources are not as scarce, and the female is just a old fat lioness. You think the male lion will do so?

 

Come lah. Imagine you, surrounded by plenty of pretty young girls. You want to borther with us old ugly lioness?

 

Look at how many of your fella males who abandon their wives and children as compared to families with a responsible step father before you actually talk so much lah. Or at least, maybe 10 years later, with your kids and so on with you, before you discuss about responsbility and able to take up responsibilities that other men shirked.

[GuiNNeSS]

Anyway, to me.

 

Any men or females, who thinks that they are much higher up then others, because the others took on responsibilites, are just immature.

 

And considering men who actually has sperm, dont have 'actual' balls to provide for their children, as compared to men without sperm medically; or fate to produced children, who protect and care for females and children holds a different standing in our eyes.

[Jehuty]

Yes. But you forgot. Females are not animals. They will much prefer their males to be of the same levels.

 

2) you missed out. Since females with children are so abhorred. Why so itchy want to produce children again with such females?

 

Laws of nature, or matter of just ego? Basic instinct for the male lion to kill off the spawn of the female lion, is a matter of conserving the nature and demanding the attention of the female lions to themselves. If nature's resources are not as scarce, and the female is just a old fat lioness. You think the male lion will do so?

 

Come lah. Imagine you, surrounded by plenty of pretty young girls. You want to borther with us old ugly lioness?

 

Look at how many of your fella males who abandon their wives and children as compared to families with a responsible step father before you actually talk so much lah. Or at least, maybe 10 years later, with your kids and so on with you, before you discuss about responsbility and able to take up responsibilities that other men shirked.

 

Wah, must be a touchy subject for you, shall not dig, all I was saying was as humans you can differentiate right from wrong, what needs to be done, what's responsible and what not. If animals, bopian, instinct, humans also got instinct but can be overwritten but if you can't, no better than an animal.

[GuiNNeSS]

Jehuty, its touchy issue, because I see the tone of the posting here by the boys.

 

One. I detest people who thinks they are superior and made comments on other people's lives and choices just because they themselves are not of the maturity to consider taking up responsibities of their own doing.

 

Two. I have and still is meeting a lot of really fantastic stepfathers and men. Not to mentiond re noticing the extreme contrast about sexiness as compared to those who sprouted religion, beliefs or so called princples by the males on this forums.

 

Three. There is now various known members from this forum, that is abandoning and is not father material though they produced sperm.

 

Four. There are other males, which medically are not producing. And seeking to produce.

 

Five. Charity Riding Projects-The glamour of helping others, as compared to really helping others. Is now so obvious.

[B20]

i think its quite offending to request for DNA test. i guess its all in the name of trust.

 

agreed.. but can secertly do the DNA testing mah... dont really need to let her know...

 

this is no small issue for a man lei... what if the "trust" u believed in end up of bring up someone else kids? and those kids end up sharing your fortune when u left... i dont want that to happen to me... lol...

[GuiNNeSS]

When you left. You still looking to be concerned about matters in life which you are no longer a part in?

 

How about you leave your fortune to your actual offsprings who use your fortune to hurt and ruin people. And everyone curse and spit your name at producing such creeps?

 

As compared to your inheritance used to help people and keep your name running that people thinks you are fantastic who brought up such fantastic people?

 

Which is more laughable?

 

And does anyone knows what legacy means? Leaving a genetic material, or immortality thru your 'legacy'.

[B20]

huh?! pls dont made wild guess and do assumption... thats abit silly...

 

what u mentioned above can be happen to any kids, be it your offspring anot...

 

simple thing is that i dont wanna bring up other man's kids... and this doesnt mean i think highly of myself.. and if because of that i become inmature to u, i let u have it ur way...

 

ur hero can be a man that bring up kids that is not their own... thats your perceptions and its perfectly fine with me... same for myself, i have my perception and principle of my own which i dont think i need ur endosement to that...

Edited August 26, 2011 by B20

[Demon]

your gf or bf has external affairs without you knowing. one day, you found out but can feel that he/she has genuinely repented... will u be able to put behind the past and start anew with her/him?

 

external affairs meaning he/she already had sex with another person..

 

for me, i can never accept this....

 

If it's a new nick, this will definitely be a troll.

 

This thread has degenerated to a gender bashing session.

 

Just to share, a friend's wife had an affair, became pregnant, and given birth, and my friend accepted the situation, cannot comment on the forgiveness part, and now raising that kid as his own. Till now they don't have any kid of their own.

 

And yes, men produce sperm, have balls, some big some small, and at times they do think with their heart.

[shahrul_azmil3]

Agree with u on this. Same with me. Ill only bring up other child if i adopt him/her or i marry a girl who already has a child. I will not bring up another child due to adultery. Full stop.

huh?! pls dont made wild guess and do assumption... thats abit silly...

 

what u mentioned above can be happen to any kids, be it your offspring anot...

 

simple thing is that i dont wanna bring up other man's kids... and this doesnt mean i think highly of myself.. and if because of that i become inmature to u, i let u have it ur way...

 

ur hero can be a man that bring up kids that is not their own... thats your perceptions and its perfectly fine with me... same for myself, i have my perception and principle of my own which i dont think i need ur endosement to that...

 

 

 

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[Jehuty]

Agree with u on this. Same with me. Ill only bring up other child if i adopt him/her or i marry a girl who already has a child. I will not bring up another child due to adultery. Full stop.

 

 

 

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While its not the child's fault, this would be a hard pill to swallow. Would prolly kick her out and tell her go live with that other man.

[shahrul_azmil3]

Its nvr the child fault. The child is innocent but i will not raise the child. The mum n the sperm donor should raise the child. Its their problem now.

 

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[ChaoPuzzy1968]

good or bad hardto say , with the current " sensibiities n sense" nothing is definite ,son may be sons but still be worst enemies , so whyneed sons in this world of emities. who know the impotance of son amd daugther of the spirit

 

life is short live truly , love furiously , forgive much , forget nothing, get over anger quickly, keep riding

 

fuc- the world

[B20]

should u say "fuc- around the world"... haha.. shiokness...

[paperger85]

Once bitten, twice shy. I'm just about to start my divorce proceedings. Because of the affairs he had. First one started because I gave him too much freedom and did not really bother about what he does, where he goes and who he hangs out with because I trusted him. After the first one, I watched him closely but he still managed to use work as an excuse to be with the other women. Mind you, its two different women and the second one happened only 4 months after I found out about the first one.

[xXxRatedxXx]

Once bitten, twice shy. I'm just about to start my divorce proceedings. Because of the affairs he had. First one started because I gave him too much freedom and did not really bother about what he does, where he goes and who he hangs out with because I trusted him. After the first one, I watched him closely but he still managed to use work as an excuse to be with the other women. Mind you, its two different women and the second one happened only 4 months after I found out about the first one.

http://www.jazzy-graphics.com/graphics/images/sympathy1.jpg

[paperger85]

http://www.jazzy-graphics.com/graphics/images/sympathy1.jpg

 

No need sympathy la...havent die yet. LOL

[GuiNNeSS]

Why is it sympathies? When that guy is such junk anyway.

 

It should be a matter of Good Riddance.

[MS]

Its nvr the child fault. The child is innocent but i will not raise the child. The mum n the sperm donor should raise the child. Its their problem now.

 

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I agree. Before the woman should comment, how about having to raise a baby your husband fathered with another woman. Let's put ourselves in each other's shoes. The baby may be innocent, but the real parents should not shirk responsibilities for the problems they caused and conveniently pass it to another person.

 

An individual's perception may be flawed. So let's ensure sensibility prevails.

[GuiNNeSS]

LOL, this is interesting though.

 

A friend related to me her story. Apparently, she was 18 years old, got hooked by a guy 18 years her senior. Who was married. And when it became too late abort because the guy can't make up his mind. She gave birth to a baby girl at the age of 19. And he was not divorced still.

 

Before she gave birth, his wife went down to give her some prep talk regards to the birthing processes and apologized for her hub's crappy ways. She was very nice.

 

After she gave birth, the wife actually helped with the one month confinement and once took on the baby for a full 3 months, till the girl settled with her family regarding the baby and one of her aunt fostered the child. And even so, after the divorce, during CNY & some events, this ex wife still send this girl and daughters ang baos to help tide them thru hard times, when her ex hub still was having a relationship and was crappy with finances for the girl and the young child.

 

This wife of the crappy man, was already a mother of 2. Both her children with that crappy man are now well into their late teens.

[paiseh]

agreed.. but can secertly do the DNA testing mah... dont really need to let her know...

 

this is no small issue for a man lei... what if the "trust" u believed in end up of bring up someone else kids? and those kids end up sharing your fortune when u left... i dont want that to happen to me... lol...

 

 

exactly.. if u fell in love with a women, and she has a kid which u can accept and willing to be stepfather and bring up, then this is ok.

 

but if ur wife has a kid coz of external affair.... i seriously cannot understand how one can accept this fact

[GuiNNeSS]

There are some males that can accept. Maybe because its harder to swallow the fact that they cannot make their wives pregnant.

 

Maybe among the boys, its considered manly to be able to have sex and not have children. To some men, they cannot accept that they got no children to show their family members.

[Jehuty]

LOL, this is interesting though.

 

A friend related to me her story. Apparently, she was 18 years old, got hooked by a guy 18 years her senior. Who was married. And when it became too late abort because the guy can't make up his mind. She gave birth to a baby girl at the age of 19. And he was not divorced still.

 

Before she gave birth, his wife went down to give her some prep talk regards to the birthing processes and apologized for her hub's crappy ways. She was very nice.

 

After she gave birth, the wife actually helped with the one month confinement and once took on the baby for a full 3 months, till the girl settled with her family regarding the baby and one of her aunt fostered the child. And even so, after the divorce, during CNY & some events, this ex wife still send this girl and daughters ang baos to help tide them thru hard times, when her ex hub still was having a relationship and was crappy with finances for the girl and the young child.

 

This wife of the crappy man, was already a mother of 2. Both her children with that crappy man are now well into their late teens.

 

Of all people go get attached to some old fart which I doubt its for the money since you say have trouble with finance. I really don't get it. Probably never will.

[paiseh]

If I cannot have children, we can always adopt or thru dunno watever surgery.

 

Still no reason to accept

[shahrul_azmil3]

Like

 

If I cannot have children, we can always adopt or thru dunno watever surgery.

 

Still no reason to accept

 

 

 

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[theblackmamba]

sad fact but true. guys wont accept other men's kids