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Riding a Class 2 bike in Singapore: Feasible? Definitely. Practical? Hell no!

 

I ride more for passion than for convenience, although the pathetic state of our public transport system is making me think twice. I have owned bikes of various shapes and sizes, and I have had the best experience on Class 2 bikes. It's not just because they are powerful and look good, but also because they have the best running equipment (like brakes) and are the most comfortable (surprisingly).

 

Here's my laundry list...

 

RXZ, SP - Very fuel efficient, no power, noisy and smoky, need to top up 2T, piston jam

CBR4 - Powerful for 2A, aggressive ergo, need to replace old parts, takes time and $$$ to make it good

SV650 - Fun, lots of torque, easy maintenance, hooligan bike, thirsty in heavy traffic, no wind protection

FZ6S2 - Light and nimble, comfy, low maintenance, looks good with top box, very fuel efficient, runs hot, feels top-heavy, buzzy engine

VFR8 - Stable at speed, comfy, good for touring, look good with panniers, great exhaust sound, lousy EFI needs PC tuning, damn heavy, damn hot, damn thirsty

GSXR1K4 - good road presence, monster torque, scary power, grabby clutch

CBR1K - Smooth power, incredible midrange, lightweight, surprisingly comfy, fuel efficient, easy to ride, small size like 2A so nobody disturb (can be good or bad)

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Appreciate ur insights. U still riding now? Hope the XJ6 addresses the issues u mentioned on the FZ6. I'm ok with 75hp :) MT 07 also looks hopeful.

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don't think the cbr650F will be cheap. the rrp of 9k for ABS is in USD? Typically, prices seen in USD will end up x 3 in Sin, based on 2 k coe.

iwt that bike easily cost 25-27k otr.

 

Prices in uk mag will be x 2.5. I am half keen on the CB650F. But my guess is that its easily 23-25k otr.

 

No surprises i guess since Sg is ridiculous. The bike does looks really good for touring and track purpose.

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I always wanted to go touring and track. Its a goal and a dream for me.

 

So i will get a class 2 no matter what. Right now, there is a upcoming new bike that fits perfectly for me.

 

The honda cbr650f which is a upright position sports bike. This means tourings or long rounding would not be that tired and having backaches.

 

cbf650f looks good. too bad COE is crazy high now. if not i may consider getting 1 in the future.

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cbf650f looks good. too bad COE is crazy high now. if not i may consider getting 1 in the future.

 

yeah insane ever rising COE. I plan to get one too but most likely 2 years later.

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Appreciate ur insights. U still riding now? Hope the XJ6 addresses the issues u mentioned on the FZ6. I'm ok with 75hp :) MT 07 also looks hopeful.

I'm riding CBR1k now. The FZ6 felt a bit top heavy mainly because of its under-seat exhaust. The top box just made it worst. That said, it is probably the best 600 road bike out there. If you want better fuel economy at the expense of horsepower (but not torque), you can go for nc700 or nc750.

 

 

Coming from a ta200, lx150, cb400 and then 400x background, how do you think I will take to the 600rr?

 

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I think your biggest issue will be the riding position. Most 600 sport bikes have very aggressive riding positions. The power of a 600 at low rpm's is actually quite tame. It's the top end (past 10k rpm) that's more crazy.

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CBR1K - Smooth power, incredible midrange, lightweight, surprisingly comfy, fuel efficient, easy to ride, small size like 2A so nobody disturb (can be good or bad)

 

How is it bad when small size nobody disturb? hahaa

 

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Riding a Class 2 bike in Singapore: Feasible? Definitely. Practical? Hell no!

 

I ride more for passion than for convenience, although the pathetic state of our public transport system is making me think twice. I have owned bikes of various shapes and sizes, and I have had the best experience on Class 2 bikes. It's not just because they are powerful and look good, but also because they have the best running equipment (like brakes) and are the most comfortable (surprisingly).

 

Here's my laundry list...

 

RXZ, SP - Very fuel efficient, no power, noisy and smoky, need to top up 2T, piston jam

CBR4 - Powerful for 2A, aggressive ergo, need to replace old parts, takes time and $$$ to make it good

SV650 - Fun, lots of torque, easy maintenance, hooligan bike, thirsty in heavy traffic, no wind protection

FZ6S2 - Light and nimble, comfy, low maintenance, looks good with top box, very fuel efficient, runs hot, feels top-heavy, buzzy engine

VFR8 - Stable at speed, comfy, good for touring, look good with panniers, great exhaust sound, lousy EFI needs PC tuning, damn heavy, damn hot, damn thirsty

GSXR1K4 - good road presence, monster torque, scary power, grabby clutch

CBR1K - Smooth power, incredible midrange, lightweight, surprisingly comfy, fuel efficient, easy to ride, small size like 2A so nobody disturb (can be good or bad)

 

RXZ no power meh? I mean its not like class 2 power but I sort of like how it has more than your 4 stroke kups, not the most efficient 2B bikes but makes up for it in power.

 

You ride liter bike no one want to disturb you la, more than enough power while in stock form to leave behind most vehicles except supercars, modded JDMs with excess of 10-15k dumped into them and other literbikes.

 

You should try RSV4 and Panigale, makes the CBR1k feel fat wahaha. Cannot beat the butter smooth power delivery of CBR1k tho.

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RXZ no power meh? I mean its not like class 2 power but I sort of like how it has more than your 4 stroke kups, not the most efficient 2B bikes but makes up for it in power.

 

You ride liter bike no one want to disturb you la, more than enough power while in stock form to leave behind most vehicles except supercars, modded JDMs with excess of 10-15k dumped into them and other literbikes.

 

You should try RSV4 and Panigale, makes the CBR1k feel fat wahaha. Cannot beat the butter smooth power delivery of CBR1k tho.

 

Nowadays kups very powerful liao

 

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Nowadays kups very powerful liao

 

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Still must do so much just to match a stock RXZ with standard mods. Besides if I wanted power, I already have one that which is literally too much power for SG roads.

 

The kup is for FC, convenience and reliability, minor annoyance include getting tailgated by almost everyone else.

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RXZ no power meh? I mean its not like class 2 power but I sort of like how it has more than your 4 stroke kups, not the most efficient 2B bikes but makes up for it in power.

 

You ride liter bike no one want to disturb you la, more than enough power while in stock form to leave behind most vehicles except supercars, modded JDMs with excess of 10-15k dumped into them and other literbikes.

 

You should try RSV4 and Panigale, makes the CBR1k feel fat wahaha. Cannot beat the butter smooth power delivery of CBR1k tho.

 

RXZ (and also RXK) is a good bike. There's a reason why it's so popular with uncle riders. It's low maintenance, powerful enough to pillion (uncles need to pillion aunties), fuel efficient (especially for its era). The main issue is piston jam. Both my RXZ and SP had that problem, and I gave up on 2-stroke bikes after that.

 

In my experience, drivers of cars that can actually give superbikes a run for their money rarely disturb bikers. Serious JDM modders know superbike performance very well and they are not out to compete with bikes anyway. (Funny enough, the only two times I got disturbed were by GTRs!) Euro supercar owners on the other hand can't be bothered with "poor bikers". Finally, why would a superbike rider disturb another?

 

I have sat on a RSV4 but not a Panigale. The RSV4 is really tiny and feels not much bigger than the 125 version. Then again, I think the CBR1k has done well to be the slimmest inline-4 (closely contested by ZX10R).

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RXZ (and also RXK) is a good bike. There's a reason why it's so popular with uncle riders. It's low maintenance, powerful enough to pillion (uncles need to pillion aunties), fuel efficient (especially for its era). The main issue is piston jam. Both my RXZ and SP had that problem, and I gave up on 2-stroke bikes after that.

 

In my experience, drivers of cars that can actually give superbikes a run for their money rarely disturb bikers. Serious JDM modders know superbike performance very well and they are not out to compete with bikes anyway. (Funny enough, the only two times I got disturbed were by GTRs!) Euro supercar owners on the other hand can't be bothered with "poor bikers". Finally, why would a superbike rider disturb another?

 

I have sat on a RSV4 but not a Panigale. The RSV4 is really tiny and feels not much bigger than the 125 version. Then again, I think the CBR1k has done well to be the slimmest inline-4 (closely contested by ZX10R).

 

Only ah bengs disturb me, on civics, WRXes and the likes and on S4s. Superbikes don't disturb, they blow at you, ask you go race.

 

Supercars, almost never see them drive fast.

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Hey guys, im getting a class 2 soon and im considering either a cbr600rr or cbr1k.

riding a class 2 for daily commute is it too much to handle?

 

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i go total 50km back on forth to work on my z8, definitely much more fun on the highways, unfortunate theres barely any twisties to play along the way . i dun why a class 2 is too much to handle for commute. haha

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Hey guys, im getting a class 2 soon and im considering either a cbr600rr or cbr1k.

riding a class 2 for daily commute is it too much to handle?

 

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I'm riding a fz1n. It gets really hot in jam and especially hot days. Too much unusable power in sg road. I will choose my drz400 anytime if only for commuting.

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Try Goldwing..u will know why..

i go total 50km back on forth to work on my z8, definitely much more fun on the highways, unfortunate theres barely any twisties to play along the way . i dun why a class 2 is too much to handle for commute. haha
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Only ah bengs disturb me, on civics, WRXes and the likes and on S4s. Superbikes don't disturb, they blow at you, ask you go race.

 

Supercars, almost never see them drive fast.

 

Every other day, I hear supercars taking off from the red light near my office along Scotts Road. Maybe they choose only certain roads to show off their prowess?

 

I haven't been asked to race by another superbike yet. So far they have been friendly, exchanging thumbs-up with me and checking each other's bike out.

 

Hey guys, im getting a class 2 soon and im considering either a cbr600rr or cbr1k.

riding a class 2 for daily commute is it too much to handle?

 

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Some class 2 bikes are easier to handle for daily commute than others. Size and weight are some of the biggest consideration. I could squeeze through rush hour traffic on my VFR with side boxes, but the same trip is much less tiring with the slim CBR.

 

If you asked me, from my experience, literbikes are actually more suitable for commuting than 600cc bikes. A literbike has the huge advantage of making tons of low-end and mid-range power, but a 600cc makes most of its power at high revs. On my CBR1k, I don't even need to rev past 5,000rpm if I want to take it easy and save petrol. And trust me, this "easy" pace is already damn fast. I am getting 5.3-5.4 L/100km for my stock CBR1k in rush hour traffic. That's 18.5-18.9 km/L! :thumb:

 

To match that kind of acceleration and pace, a 600cc needs to rev above 8,000rpm and change gears often. That puts more wear and tear on the engine and gearbox. Also, by using high revs, the 600cc will end up burning as much petrol as the literbike, if not more. Not to forget the extra noise that can attract unwanted attention (e.g. from TP/ROV).

 

Someone once said that literbikes make you lazy. I have to agree. :cheeky:

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