PLEASE, I BEG YOU TO RECONSIDER, to give allowance time for rider to insert their cas

[mi5trooper]

either LTA can come up with a device that we could "SAFELY" leave our cash card in the device, or allow motorist to "PAUSE" for 15-30 second to insert a cash card in the device before entering the gantry.

 

FACTS:

1. as we know that no matter how we locked and cover our IU unit, theif still have their method to break it to "steal" the cash card.

2. Without a cash card going into the gantry is fine + entry value.

3. There is these traffic warrent (not police) on their transport to issue fine.

4. there are a few "BLACK SHEEP" who actually wait before the gantry.

5. Human sometime "DO FORGET" to insert the cash card.

6. CAR driver has the chance to drive slow (actually the traffic itself is slow already). which give them the 15 second to insert the cash card.

7. MANY motorist wishes to obey the rules to insert a cash card, but it is not easy to ride and insert cash card.

8. The fine may be a great impact to a middle or low incoming holding.

9. ALL IT TAKES is for the rules to allow 15-30second of allowance for motorist to "PAUSE" and insert cash card.

 

 

I don't know any channel but i am appealling to all to help appeal to the "body" that write the rules or to the "body" that employ the traffic warrant - please understand the suitation before making a decision. We all have a family to take care of and we are all lawful people. We should respect and be understand of each other.

 

I am also appealing to the LTA to design a device that is sperate from the sensor. So that the "part" of the deive with the cash card insert can be install in a more secure area, for example under the seat (which is lock) or in the box (which is lock).

 

We understand the term, insert the cash card when riding and remove the cash card when not riding. but do u understand us? My cash card was stolen so many time that i can buy 5 tin of milk powder for my baby. I have locked my device. i have covered my device. The thief simply just break it. The police can only do so much to help us petrol more freq (thanks mr policeman). It is the device design that is inviting theif.

 

PLEASE, I BEG YOU TO RECONSIDER, to give allowance time for rider to insert their cash card before entering the gantry.

 

 

p/s: the advice "ride thru the gantry without a cash card and pay the fine" is not a good advice.

 

 

----- wrote to LTA as below ---

 

I would like to rise my appeal to LTA to consider to allow motorist to "PAUSE" for 15-30 second to insert a cash card in the device before entering the gantry.

 

- I do not denie there are a few "black sheep" which try to escape the gantry payment by waiting for the timeup before the gantry.

- There are also many road user who may honestly have forgotten to insert the cash card.

- By allowing they the 2nd chance to "pause" for 15-30 second to insert the cash card before entering the gantry, you are allowing panic rider to ride safely. the camera (already have) will be a good tools to monitor the road user.

- traffic warranty may like to be give more humanity on the (bike) road user before the gantry. (I mean by all means to fine the the person who try to cheat the gantry. but allow a few second of pause for rider who wish to insert the cash card)

- For a low incoming or a avg incoming holder, every single cent is important for their household living.

- rules are make to keep the system smooth and safe. But I am sure a little "human goodwill gesture" allowance will benefit the road user as a whole. a happy road user is a safe road user.

 

 

I would like to rise my appeal to LTA to consider design a IU device that we could "SAFELY" leave our cash card in the device. The design should have 2 sector. 1st is the sensor section which is expose in the open area on the bike. 2nd is the cash card section which can be safely keep under the bike (which is not visible and has lock) or in the bike box (which is not visible and has lock).

 

FACTS:

1. as we know that no matter how we locked and cover our IU unit, thief still have their method to break it to "steal" the cash card.

2. the current IU design is almost a welcome invitation to thief (Even if the IU unit is locked and covered up nicely)

3. Human sometime "DO FORGET" to insert the cash card.

6. CAR driver may have the chance (+-15 second) to insert the cash card.

7. MANY motorist wishes to obey the rules to insert a cash card, but it is not easy to ride and insert cash card.

8. The fine may be a great impact to a middle or low incoming holding.

[mi5trooper]

anyone who know of channel to foward this appeal request. pls help. many rider will appericate your effort. I promise you.

[OhMiGosh]

forward to LTA

[mi5trooper]

to all the policeman in this forum. Thank you for your more feq petrol

 

if my few police report of stolen cash card and bring in (to my bike) has increase your work load, i really appericate. thank you.

[panclanrider]

Forward it to LTA...

[mi5trooper]

i did write in lta discussion. i just hope that more people to know this appeal. and if u do agree on this, pls play a part my writing your comment to the channel too.

[mi5trooper]

1 person voice is soft. a nation voice is loud.

[Ettaque]

1 person voice is soft. a nation voice is loud.

 

agreed..

[GuiNNeSS]

I seldom use my Unit as i seldom head into town.

 

However, when there's a need for me to use da damned thing, it's actually not workin after being on the bike for so many years.

 

Go for inspection, it's faulty and need to change a new one and no longer under warranty.

 

I feel that LTA can and would be able to design a smaller and suitable Unit for motorcycles as the current is way too bike and obstructs view and adds weight on the bars.

 

A sensor disc would be good and juz bill the user at the month end, wouldn't it be sweeter since all they want to do is make more money outta us?

[mi5trooper]

like i said. i appeal for a redesign of the device.

 

the cheapest and easiest method is to divide the device into 2 section (conected together via wires). The sensor section will be install anywhere on the exposed area of the bike. the cash card section will be install in the glove compartment under the seat, or in the box or even in a metel locked box that we could attached to any part of the bike.

 

the good factor as below:

1. the ERP system current using does not have to be change (i am taking about the software of the main frame system that build the erp.)

2. the device main parts does not need to change too, just modification.

3. As road user can leave their cash card in the device, it will not be an excuse to "forgot instert". If the fine is given becos of "no enough value", we will be glad to pay the fine of lta.

4. traffic warrant is issuing fine "stop at road side" with demrit point and fine. this is the part which i am appealing. This is extremely unfair for road user who "without thinking" stop on the road side for 15-30 second to insert their cash card and moved on.

 

5. for lta to bill the user at the end of the month require the software engineer to change the system. additional cost to our government. (for my point of view)

[mi5trooper]

p/s: i am not saying i am right. I am just appeal for the a more human good will gesture for the road user. Rules are set for a better tomolo. but punishment or rules should be set according to flexible and situation. Unless these allowance is written in the rules, it will always be a case to case bases and the road user are the only one suffering in silence.

 

base on TP theory (told to me a few years back), stopping on the road shoulder is illegal - unless emergency or break down. inserting cash card and putting on road gear are not consider emergency. only life and death matters are consider emergency matter.

[mi5trooper]

i read 1 good example from a tv show i see.

 

a senior lawyer say to a junior lawyer:

 

Everyday, we have to go thru many case and recieve many files. To us lawyer, Mr xxx is just another name we see on another file. If we make any mistake or error, we may just say "**** happen". But to Mr xxx, it may be a mistake or error that will effect his whole life.

 

I like the way that lawyer say in the tv show. That is why i as a cus ser always try my best to deal with every case whole heartedly. But i can only do "so much". Unless i set a clear statement for all cus ser to follow, there will be so many customer suffer in silent. it hurt me.

 

hmm... ok. i know this is not a good example. i am just writing without much thinking. pls treat it as listen to my voice as a listener. thank you.

[xiaoxiao]

Man;3010117']I seldom use my Unit as i seldom head into town.

 

However, when there's a need for me to use da damned thing, it's actually not workin after being on the bike for so many years.

 

Go for inspection, it's faulty and need to change a new one and no longer under warranty.

 

I feel that LTA can and would be able to design a smaller and suitable Unit for motorcycles as the current is way too bike and obstructs view and adds weight on the bars.

 

A sensor disc would be good and juz bill the user at the month end, wouldn't it be sweeter since all they want to do is make more money outta us?

 

i agree.

and then i don have to keep running to 7/11 or wherever to top up my cash card.

some pple might say, might as well top up once and for all. yes. but at least if its stolen or wad. not so heart pain as the amount inside is not that much.

[madman]

LTA may say, you would know in advance whether you want to enter ERP zone or not one loh...then they will give BS answer, and write off with :

 

Motorists can check for ERP time and zones active at blahblahblah.com...hahaa

 

I mean, you can always stop someway else if you wanna enter rite? Not say last min. then you realised eh, got to pay ERP. Maybe for minority who don't know, but most of us would have known.

 

However, it'll be hard for LTA to do this, as some people really stop to wait 30s for the ERP to off...and it's hard for them to differentiate I guess...

[xiaoxiao]

true.

tats a sooooooo-expected-answer from gahment.

i suppose thats wad happen when pple found fault in thier "products"?

[mi5trooper]

i presume the practice of traffic warrant are copy down the licence plate without thinking.

 

AND YES. Sometime people do forget about ERP TIME. I AM TALKING on the 6-8pm on certain area. NOT the usual 730-930am period.

 

I repeat. YES. people do tend to forget. (we are human for crying out loud)

 

For eg, there is a camara area locate at xxx location that is near the gentry shoulder, this is the only are a bike can stop and insert a cash card and go off. This area only need to be 1-2 car lenght. the autho will have to right to issue fine to bike that is stop at the location for more then 1 min.

 

(give us some slack)

[madman]

I guess yap, they just copy the lic plate if you stopped loh...they wouldnt bother listen to excuses one...

 

same like TP (not all)...they tell you, if you tink you got a valid reason, then you can always go appeal when you receive the summon...kaoz!

[mi5trooper]

that is why appealling for more human factor in the written rules.

 

Anyway, the main appeal is 1) to re-design the device so that a cash card can safely leave in the bike. 2) an desinated area that allow bike to stop on the highway without being pit down.

 

 

** if there is such area written in the rule book, it will be blessing to road user. to avoid this "benefit" to be mis-use, a camera can be mounted on the area and the authro has the right issue a fine to any bike that has "stop" in the area for more then 1 min. on the other hand, all bike has the right to stop in this area for less then 1 min legally.

[madman]

if that happens, it'll be great for bikers.

[mi5trooper]

I have go to the extend to tie the cash card on my key. all i need is 5 second to insert it. (base on my experience).

 

The advice from LTA (many years ago) is to go thru the gantry without a card and pay the fine. It will be better then pay the tp fine and get the demerit point. I understand this statement and in a certain way, i agree. But we as human, may not be able to think straight when we panic. We are bring up in a lawful way. to stop and insert the cash card come immidiately to our mind in a split second. this come naturely. Does anyone agree to this statment?

 

** we find food, when hungry. we sleep when we are tired. this is nature.

[mi5trooper]

one person voice is soft. a nation of united voices forcusing on the same statement is strong. This is an appeal. not an order.

 

** he who listen and understand to its people (reasonably), win the nation.

[madman]

anyway, I ever tio stop by an uncle on a bike b4 I enter gantry...maybe 10m away...he ask me lend him cashcard he pay me...so I go thru gantry, stopped by side, and he came over take card and go thru...

 

I'm sure the cam can see what we are doing...cos I stopped near gantry and put cashcard in, then chatted with oldman etc...

[mi5trooper]

** i edit and deleted this msg.

[redbeacon]

How can I be of help to your petition as well bro?

[mi5trooper]

simple. voice out to as many people as you know.

 

if my writing is good, i will write to ST forum.

 

This is call "pass it on" campaign. a happy road user, is a safe road user.

(humm.. this sound like the TP campaign of road using. hehe.. i actually been practicing it for over 10 years. i give way to the needed. i wave to say thank you to the people who give way to me. I stop to help any road user (i don't know them) to my best knowledge. and i am proud of it. i am only ashame that i didn't practice this action in the first 2 yr when i have my licence. i was young then. sigh...)